Nerds on the Rocks attempts to answer, "Is Microsoft in a better position at the end of the generation?"
I say a big no.
MS have been a very busy company over the last few years with Windows 7 office 10 windows phone 7 360 Kinect and I do think they have something in the pipe line for the next Halo and gears what I dont know but the xbox side has been quiet for the last 12 months because they are pushing windos phone 7 and windows 7 and Bing too. MS allways seem to do this but every time they go quiet in one department they seem to hit us again with something big. I dont think it is the end of the xbox but what they have done is got a lot of exclusives off of sony since the 360 was released and they are the better selles in this department for most games so I think they will be working on there in house studios now. I also think they will start to use Rare For alot of 1st party hard core games once the launch of Kinect is over as they have been a bit part in the 360 dash change over the past 2 years and I think it is by far the best one on a games machine by along way.
Why do you say no then?
Games, games, games. You can't rely on third party only. You have to make something that gives people a reason to buy your console. Sony already have studios working on games for next gen. I haven't heard a peep about MS's next console. Sony have really been picking up alot of momentum as of late and will try their hardest to keep it going into next gen. They know they made a mistake at the beginning of this gen. It won't happen again. Yet MS started out very strong and up until the release of the 360 S they were struggling. There was a major dry spell of exclusives and they've lost alot of their first party studios. MS started out great, but this was never a sprint. This gen is far from over (in my eyes) and MS have lost a ton of momentum to Sony. So are they in the same position as when they started? Absolutely not.
"You have to make something that gives people a reason to buy your console." I'm no Microsoft supporter or anything, but ANY well-informed gamer will tell you that Gears and Halo are the two main reasons gamewise that people buy the 360. The Gears of War franchise is the most commercially successful new IP this generation between the PS3 and 360. I'm not buying these games..but many people are. The first Gears and Halo 3 moved loads of 360 consoles. "MS started out great, but this was never a sprint. This gen is far from over (in my eyes) and MS have lost a ton of momentum to Sony. So are they in the same position as when they started? Absolutely not." I agree...Sony is in a MUCH better position than Microsoft at this point in time as far as quality, value, reliability, and innovation. @KatStacks- Ummm...the shooting genre is the best-selling genres on both the PS3 and 360(Are you already forgetting what the best selling game on the PS3 is???) And how do they lack variety?? Granted, the PS3 has MORE variety as far as exclusives are concerned..but its not like the 360 LACKS variety. Forza 3- Driving simulator Fable- RPG Shadow Complex- Side scrolling action/adventure Mass Effect- RPG/Third Person shooter Gears of War- Third person shooter Halo 3- First person shooter And if I recall, Modern Warfare 2, MGS4, GTA4, and COD4 are the 4 top selling games on the PS3 WORLDWIDE..all are shooters or at least involve shooting as the primary gameplay element. I do believe that Microsoft should strive to achieve the amazing variety of exclusives that Sony has..but you have to understand, 360s are STILL selling great and the majority of the 360 fanbase needs to speak up if they want more variety. I'm srry, ut right now, it seems like the majority of 360 owners are happy to play Gears, Halo, and COD over and over again.
those 2 are shooters,the reason why they don't have as big as a user base as you would expect is because they still lack variety. also they need at least 1 worldwide console move like GT. that moves everywhere, japan,u.s and europe.
Well, to be 100% truthful, Wii Sports was the most commercially successful new IP for this generation, but I understand the rest of your post.
I completely agree with your post. But two shooters aren't that much in the grand scheme of things. MS are relying on their 2 flagship IPs, which isn't entirely a bad thing, but that will only take them so far. The PS3 gives a variety of exclusive titles in genres all across the board. Which gives Sony alot of leverage in this situation.
the way they have been doing business is very amature. i would suggest they partner with toshiba to design & build their consoles & employ few talented japanese devs to run the xbox software devision & i'm sure they will be in much better position in the long run.
They had too much success and ceased being "hungry", much like Sony at the beginning of this gen. Too much success goes to peoples heads and they stop trying.
i almost agree wit everybody MS needs to get something done or they will be hit in the next gen
So what should Microsoft do to turn this around? Do they just start buying up studios and talent or do they restructure their current studios?
I would say it will take a little bit of both at this point. I think the best thing they can do is to take more chances like Sony does. Its because of Sony's willingness to take chances that we have games like LittleBigPlanet and Heavy Rain. If Microsoft would take chances like this they might just have a fantastic first party dev drop into their lap like Sony did with MM. It wouldn't hurt to get Rare working on "good" games again either.
Both, stop buying 6 month-1yr timed exclusives on 3rd party games, scrap natal and use the money to buy entire studios and/or build new studios. Stop having rare do stupid piddly shit like avatar's clothes and natal game, have them make another killer instinct and/or viva pinatiti 2. Start treating the ips they already own like crackdown with at least a similar level of treatment and dev time like the halo series, 6 months dev time good god. This should have been done a 1yr to 2 yrs ago, instead ms has basically killed off almost all there first party studios and has shifted most of it's focus on snatching up nintendos non gamer market. Ms has put so much money into natal it's either natal is huge and ms makes alot of money. Or it flops badly and ms gets out of the console market entirely next gen, i don't see any other choice for ms. I think when this gen is over, the thing to remember will be 1st party, 1st party and more 1st party.
It comes down to the games. I don't see the big deal, MS made their money, they're moving on to the casual audience. Limited choices now for the core, but I'm sure in time those folks will pick up a PS3. Especially those on their 4th, 5th, 6th 360.
Microsoft is no longer trying to be like the PlayStation. (At the beginning of this generation 2005-08.) . After seeing the Wii dominate this period of time, not just in sales, but in profit. . Microsoft made the decision to no longer chase after the PS brand. They closed half of their development studios, and bought the tech that would later become Kinect. . Microsoft are the Wii 2 now in their minds, of course they will continue to put out Halo (not from Bungie anymore) , it is too profitable not to. . This is but a picture of their upcoming projects from their own internal studios. . 343 Industries - Halo Project (taking over for Bungie) Turn 10 - Forza 4 w/ Kinect Lionhead Studios - Fable 3 w/ Kinect Big Park Studios - Kinect Joy Ride Good Science Studios - Kinect Adventures Rare - Kinect Sports Fontier Developments - Kinectimals Firebird Studios - Unannounced Title Microsoft is no longer going to try to be like SONY. So the 360 you knew at the beginning of this generation is no more. They don't care about hardcore games. They are too hard to make, too expensive, and too risky in their eyes. Their actions prove so. (They would rather go with popular brands CoD, GTA, etc.) . Sure SONY are putting their hat into the motion control game as well, but they are not abandoning the hardcore. The PS3's 2011 lineup is shaping up to be the best in the Playstation's history.
As much as I hate to agree, I think you are spot on. Unless they have some big secrets I can see it playing out just like that, and that suck's, but at least Sony is keeping it real.
How can anyone say NO! I had my 360 long before gears, I didnt even own halo 3 until last year, but there are a ton of games on there aside from shooters.. your just a bunch of retards to say there isnt.. The console is selling, games are sold more on the 360 (hate to sounds like a fanboy) but yet you say no.. MS has a ton of hardcore games coming next year, its unfortunate that gamers simply rely on this site to find out about upcoming games.. But in my opinion Yes they have been going well at the end of the generation, they made there mistakes fixed them and have no got a much better 360 on the market than they did before..
"games are sold more on the 360 (hate to sounds like a fanboy)" a misinformed fanboy : sony sold more last years (not only consoles, but games) "MS has a ton of hardcore games coming next year" yeah sure, name only 3 exclusives.
Gears of War 3 Crytek exclusive adventure title Forza 4 Is that good enough?
This year for my 360 I bought ME2, Bad Co 2 and will buy Reach. Thats 3 games this year for my 360. I didnt make it past March without buying more than 3 games for my PS3. I am now buying as many games for my 360 as our Wii...not many... thats the state of MS gaming for me
I'm not using this as a "what games I bought for 360 thingie" there are still plenty of games coming to the 360 and while most of them aren't exclusive. Many have the mentality that it might as well be. We can almost guarantee stuff like Assassin's Creed and Black Ops and Medal of Honor will sell much better on the 360. Just looking at their long-term plan.
Exclusives don’t make a console, good games make a console.The move to PS3 and or other consoles will just even out the playing field.Mass Effect is now looking for mo money and it is the right move to cash in and all so called exculsives will do the same not matter what console they were on first excluding some mascot charactors and we no who they are.Its all about money.
That was the point. You have to build up a stable of first/second party franchises because at the end of the day, 3rd parties want profit. Who can blame em
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