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Submitted by skyward 1996d ago | news

Molyneux 'Jealous Of Halo Success'

NowGamer: Lionhead boss/Fable developer and Peter Molyneux has talked about his constant struggle to make a good game, and his aspirations to match the success of Call of Duty and Halo (Call of Duty Series, Halo Series, Industry, Lionhead Studios, Peter Molyneux, Xbox 360)

DelbertGrady  +   1996d ago
I think Fable is too niche to match that level of success. He should be happy with the sales of Fable thus far. It's done very well considering it's a pretty original series.

I can't help but imagining Peter M holding a keynote for a COD game. Military advisor lol.
R2D2  +   1996d ago
Bungie created a monster called HALO
I think when Bungies leaves Halo they will be jealous that Master Chief is with some one else.

Bungies review on Halo 4 will be the most talked about review on the net when Halo 4 comes out.
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MorganX  +   1996d ago
They made it niche by adding all the farting and personal growth elements that are really implemented at such a rudimentary level (see we said we'd put it in, so keep pressing "A" and make a baby,) that's it's meaningless.

Mixing "Ages" is also a mistake. Those who want Fantasy, don't want to cross into the musket Age. Either go Dungeons & Dragons or Pirates of the Carribean. One or the other.

Molneux is so arrogant he thinks he knows what gamers want more than gamers. Yes, you do want to fart a million different ways. Yes, you would rather "shoot" the dragon with a musket in lieu of a Sword & Arrow.

Fable will still sell, there's enough people who like it. But it will never be great with Molyneux at the helm. He's done.
dtalon3  +   1996d ago
@ bulletproof
hey want to tell me which games those are?

Halo 3 - Innovates Forge
Halo 3:ODST - Uses forge

Halo Reach- Uses forge

let us see here...well since your one of the other few hundred thousand STUPID gamers/consumers that thought ODST was a stand alone game. It was a Disc based expansion pack that had 3 Map packs along with it.

Halo Reach is the 2nd Full game to use Forge. It may not be new but I don't see anyone else doing it...even on the "system that does everything", though with the new activision deal, it will just be a matter of time before PS3 gets to have some bungie product in it.

p.s. farcry not included
(sry quick cheap shot for the ps fangirls :P I love to make fanboy's eyes pop with nerd rage).
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bioshock1221  +   1996d ago
You call 4 million sold niche?
Dance  +   1996d ago
Molyneux 'Jealous Of Halo Success'
which company isnt
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theonlylolking  +   1996d ago
Activision with the call of duty franchise.
0mega4  +   1996d ago
halo strives
due to a lack of other exclusives
and competition on the xbox
its original innovation it brought to fps

yet now with just more prequels and sequels
and its lack of innovation
has become just whats left on xbox

and with bungie gone halo success is bound to run out
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coolbeans  +   1996d ago
^You're kind of eating crow already Vess
There's been 3 Halo games that have now used Halo's Forge option. The only other console fps to have that same type of feature is Far Cry 2. Sorry to annoy the fanboy ego but your argument hardly holds any truth and derives from unproven speculation.
0mega4  +   1996d ago
@cool beans^^^^^^^^^
you said it yourself 3 games that have now used halo's forge option.

forge is no longer an innovation to halo.

yes to the fps most games don't have an create feature.
and pulling the fanboy card doesn't make your argument sound

"eating crow" seriously where are you from
ill eat my humble pie

so run along troll im tired of feeding your kind
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Cold 2000  +   1996d ago
I was going to anwser Bulletproof but then saw that he only joined 31 days ago...veteran troll with a new account. Wont bother.

edit: and already has 5 bubbles ?? Guess all his alt accounts are working 24/7 bubbling him up.
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MorganX  +   1996d ago

I take you you feel the same about KZ 1-3, UC 1-3, Resistance 1-3, LBP 1-2, GT 1-5, etc., etc.

Come on ...
The BS Police  +   1996d ago
Actualy coolbeans
Only two Halo games have Forge mode and those are Halo 3 and Halo: Reach.
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coolbeans  +   1996d ago

No 3 HALO games: Reach, 3, and 3:ODST. The only other one is Far Cry 2. How does a game that starts the trend, lose the innovation? *Grabs popcorn* I'm dying to hear that.

@The BS Police
I'm not exactly sure how ODST is favored on here, but that IS a seperate purchase. It's the same if GT5:P and GT5 added some new feature, they'd be considered a feature in both games.
0mega4  +   1996d ago
@everyone who cant handle criticism of halo
in my opinion*

@Cold if you had taken notice to the new rules and guidelines to this site
you would have noticed they updated it and gave everyone 5 bubbles which can be altered by the mods

@Morgan X
KZ pushed first person graphics on a console farther than ever before
KZ multiplayer modes were unlike another
KZ 3 features additions of jet packs, new control scheme, more vehicles

best graphics on a console so far hands down additionally the online multiplayer is different and very well balanced

This isn't anything that needs to be talked about as its obviously a very innovative game with plenty of new content in the new one

GT honestly unfamiliar with the titles never been much of a racing simulator person yet the screen shots look very nice

Resistance All kinda off innovative weapons kinda of like what rachet and clank brought to the market but in a FPS

Gears constantly adding more weapons, multiplayer functions and gameplay & while improving graphics and gameplay

Limbo nothing more than what LPB brought to the table as the game could be built in LBP as it has been done already

Halo in my opinion just doesn't bring anything game changing anymore and you can read all kinds of critic reviews on highly reputable sites which feel the same way

Kinect not innovative its just upgraded tech just like pseye
and will not be successful as a controller replacement but entrainment enhancement like controller plus kinect games and multimedia functions

move not truly innovative more like taking what is there and making it better by adding in camera support to wii motion controller technology combining the best of both world per-say

stop trying to turn this in to a fanboy argument i enjoy gaming on all platforms i have no problem playing the best games where ever them come from

and forge was not the origin of map customization
forge creation is like like the LBP of Xbox it isn't the game for having it
that makes it innovative its the community and what they build with it that has become its
biggest contribution to gaming
0mega4  +   1996d ago
also if you don't agree
then leave a disagree and a intelligent comment and ill get back to you

outrageous  +   1996d ago
Halo is a quality product that has spawned numerous copy cats with nowhere near the success. How many times have you heard the words Halo killer. Halo 3 sold 11 million units, came out 3 years ago and STILL thousands play it everyday on XBL. That is the definition of success. If Halo was available on all platforms and even a downgraded version for Wii and would be UNTOUCHABLE. M$ has hinted that Halo may end up on your cell phone soon in some capacity.

@Bullet...Xbox 360 has a great library of games...exclusive and multi-platform. What does that have to do with anything? People buy and play games they like. Halo is the envy of the entire gaming industry, with good reason. 343 studios is If you spent a little time researching instead of trolling, you would know that.

BTW on topic...Peter Molyneux is a quality person and EVERY gamer should respect the man. He lives and breath's gaming and is a credit to this industry and to us as gamers. He has nothing to be jealous of as his games have sold incredibly well. I wish he would up production a little. How he passed on LBP, which was developed by a couple of former employee's is beyond oops there Peter.
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0mega4  +   1996d ago
343 is still in developement
& is not bungie
you're ignorant.

yes they have employes from bungie but there not bungie

just as valve has employees from naughty dog
does that make them naughty dog no does that make them sony no

and unlike halo MW2 has sold around 20 million copies in about a year.
so don't make stupid assumptions saying they are the envy of the entire gaming industry
when there not

so don't call me a troll if you cant even get facts right

what is has to do with is the fact that there losing developers left and right
and face it don't have very many exclusives left
and need to step there game up
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theonlylolking  +   1996d ago
That is because his games are boring. If he makes a game that has some excitement then people might buy it.
Johnny_Bravo  +   1996d ago
You mean the close to 4 million people who bought Fable 2? I guess Uncharted 2 is boring since it received around the same amount of sales.
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Hacking  +   1996d ago
Molyneux 'Jealous Of Halo Success'
Well your not the only one Jealous every Game Developer on all 3 consoles are Jealous......... No Game let me repeat No Game can COMPETE against Halo except for Halo.
Silly gameAr  +   1996d ago
You guys are delusional.
eggbert  +   1996d ago
I was under the impression
that MW2 doubled Halo 3's sales.
HarryEtTubMan  +   1996d ago
yea on 6 platforms rofl
Fishy Fingers  +   1996d ago

You might not like it, I hate the damn thing, but it decimates any game on any of the consoles.
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George Sears  +   1996d ago
You can invest millions on trying to create a successful franchise but success is not only relative, but it is never determined by anyone. Halo Combat Evolved was going to be somewhat successful thanks to Microsofts advertising but I would surely doubt that they would even remotely believe that it would be a gaming phenomenon that it is today.

I guess it's just a matter of luck.
DigitalRaptor  +   1996d ago
Yep. MS struck lucky, although it was more than that. They truly put effort into marketing it too.

But seriously, if Halo started on a Sony platform, you can bet your ass it would not be the phenomenon it is today. MS struck lucky with Bungie and the fact that they were catering to the right crowd - The FPS fragheads of Xbox!
ManBearPork  +   1996d ago
Halo would be dead without ms
They bought it and bungie after it was announced to go to the mac. If it was only released for the mac around 2001, the game wouldn't really have sold.
ZombieAutopsy  +   1996d ago
Don't be jealous Molyneux all your games are alot better than Halo.

Don't hate on me though I enjoy Halo, but i'd take a decent RPG over a flagship FPS any day of the week.
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8thnightvolley  +   1996d ago
well halo is a b beast many devs are jealous of its success
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Kalowest  +   1996d ago
MS is starting to make PC games again, i can see him making a great new series for that.
Cajun Chicken  +   1996d ago
If he made an actual game and not a collection of closed simulations he might actually have some success and make the real game which everyone will want to play.
nsnsmj  +   1996d ago
Just a question...
I'm really impressed with Forge World in Halo Reach, and its the main reason I will probably buy a 360 and become a multi console owner (PS3 is what I have now). What I want to know is if forge is just like map editors for fps's on pc, and are you guys saying nothing else is like it because its on console? just an honest question, i'm curious to know.

Back on topic though, I can understand pete in this respect. halo games always sell huge amounts and marketing is a big part. that's what disappoints me in regards to sony. they have so many great games, but they don't market them well sometimes. i'm sure some of sony's games would sell like halo if they would just ADVERTISE MORE. I dont know if it's a matter of microsoft having more money to throw behind advertising or if sony just doesn't like to spend much money on marketing.
divideby0  +   1996d ago
oh Peter M...psst.. you making the wrong genre to compare your games with the ones you mentioned..never will happen...shooters will always be more popular (not saying better) than Fable type games
tiamat5  +   1996d ago
Is there any point in time when this man isn't talking? I am so sick of listening to his endless chatter. Shouldn't he be hanging on a hook next to Cliff in a shed somewhere until Microsoft needs him?

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