1upYours podcast the guys talk about WoW, Mass Effect, Bioshock, and and their Lair Review.
Direct me to the time segment in question so I don't have to listen through the whole thing. Ok, basically their main dislike is that Lair is basically a star wars game with dragons. They don't like the way the dragon attacks seem like an X-wing, the machine gun fireballs and basically the air combat. Also they dislike the camera and the color scheme. It is interesting to note that they had no problems with the Six axis controls and made no ill mention about the Frame rate. They do however like some of the visual aspects and the overall scale of the game. To me at times it sounds as if they were overwhelmed and things the game play could benefit from having a map on screen (I may be inclined to agree on that point)
yeah it would be helpful to know that since 1up description for the podcast doesn't even mention Lair and its 2 hours long  It starts 10-20 seconds into 45min
EGM first previewed lair and gave it an average score of about 5/10 so then the developers delayed lair to fix up because everyone that played the game for review made honest massive critiscism not in lair's favour. Now after the delay 1up get there hands on the fixed up version and they unanimously agreed that "IT WAS WORSE THAN BEFORE" (i think quoted by garnett or john). it probably would now getget 3 or 4 out of ten's. Now if this is the type of games that are gonna go up against HALO3 (best multiplayer game ever),BIOSHOCK (10/10 scores), MASS EFFECT , JOHN MADDEN '08(60 frames a second) and many other great games this year, then good luck for ps 2.5
I didn't here them mention a "fixed" version of Lair.
@1.2 Your talking rubbish! They said the game they reviewed was worser than the demos they played. They haven't received a "Fixed" version of this game at all.
i hate 1up
The Lair part is in minute 46. (They really hate Lair judging from their comments) While I usually trust 1UP, I think they are going over the top with Lair. They say everything from Dragon controls to mission design to fireballs to story/characters suck and graphics are not that good. While the game might not be the masterpiece we expected (Still haven't played it), it's shouldn't be that bad and judging from the graphics I saw, its a really beautiful game at the very least. (1UP themselves called it the most epic and beautiful PS3 game to date in a previous preview!)
I use Windows Media Player slide the bar to 47:00.They SHlted all over LAIR from the Graphics,Controls and GamePlay they said all of it is WEAK.This Game has been in Developement for the PS3 for 2 years and people that played the game said the controls and framerete are just bad.
you are a 360 fanboy, what are you doing here?
I don't recall the people in this podcast saying the controls and framerate are bad.
They really are,saying Liar graphics are bad,it just BS, pure BS There views are exact opposite there review, so now thye have no problem with the controls?
Agreed on graphics. I haven't played Lair myself so don't know much about controls and usch BUT I trust my eyes more than 1UP and everything I've seen so far from Lair has been stunningly good and beautiful.
lol... dont act suprised that 1up bad mouths a PS3 title. I knew what the review was going to be before I heard it.
I mean a lot ,over everything.HE EVEN SAID THE CONTROLS ARE GOOD . They are a complete joke ,and should not ever be look up for reviews
and xplay and ign love lair so far. and there the one's that count since there not biased at all. and dont go by what THEY PERSONALLY LIKE but judge it for what it is
Jack AZZ I am nobodies Fanboy I own both systems,I work makes good money so I am able to buy games for the PS3 and the 360.Thats the beauty of having both systems, Lair gets a bad review then I just buy Bioshock for the 360.I see how some of you PS3 fans work if I say EGM Sucks for giving Lair a bad Review you would NOT have called me a 360 fanboy.Now go look in the Mirror (DarthBillBoy) and tell what you see FANBOY.
just because you have two systems doesnt mean you are no fanboy, you said previous 360 is the next gen and you seemed pretty excited about 1up bad mouthing Lair. EGM is not bad but something here is not right.
I think it was the british guy who said "It's not THAT good!" I think what he means is it was ovehyped and i totally agree with him on that, it was one of the 4 PS3 exclusives so everyone was like "We have LAIR! HAHA!" when in all reality it's not that much to shout about, it's kind of like saying "HAHA! SUCK ON THAT! WE GET DYNASTY WARRIORS!" not saying LAIR is as bad as Dynasty Warriors but they get the same reaction, which is "So what?"
that could be. However, a reviewer should look through the hype at a game and say yay or nay due to the game... not the hype. Back to the real world though, you may be right. It may just be an "alright" game, I will wait and see though. I have a hard time thinking the graphics arent good on this game.
You're right, but i don't think they were actually giving it a review here, i think the whole podcast is the kind of thing like "3 guys talk about crap in their living room" So it's not a real review so this shouldn't really affect anyones opinion. And yeah, i don't understand what he said about the graphics, they look just dandy to me.
Im gonna wait to hear about LAIR from a different site. Cause 1up has become HORRIBLY biased, some times they need to crack, and admit that some games look interesting (i.e: Little Big planet). They already tried to completely deflate Killzone graphically which seriously made me loose complete respect for them. I cant really trust them on all judgement. Personally Im not interested LAIR the least, it never sparked any interest to me, but Im definitely gonna look onto more reviews before making a definite decision to buy.
WAAAHH WAAAAHH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH~~ ~ Poor Lair......
You are a Cold Blooded PS3 Fanboy,You are Upset with me because I did Not get Mad at 1UP for giving LAIR a bad review or bad mouthing Lair.It is 1UP and EGM JOB to to give Gamers the best review that they can, and thats what they did with LAIR, I know you dont like it but GET OVER IT.The 360 is the True Nextgen Gaming System Example,Madden comes out Tuesday for the PS3 and the 360,I will Buy the better version on the XBOX360. (DarthBillBoy) you realy need to stop Defending the PS3 and then call people fanboy it realy makes you loo bad.
damn it this is getting hilarious, well go and enjoy your games and stop proving what I first said.
i believe lair will reach/surpass my expectations,i have high hopes for lair,fu(k wat 1down thinks,i'm getting this game....if it isnt as good as i would like it to be,i'll wait for the 2nd one to come out which should be 100x better.
They're calling it rogue squadron with dragons. They mentioned a fight where you tangle the legs of elephant like creatures with your harpoon. LOL sound familiar? *cough..battle of hoth..AT-AT's cough* I thought how the art style was described was funny...chocolate covered LOTR art. I even more psyched for bioshock now though.
i thought this game was going to be good, alot of people on g4tv thought it was good, and heard nothing but good things about it from e3 so this sucks for us ps3 fans then :(
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