Some consumer electronics retailers see the sales gap closing between set-top HD DVD players and Blu-ray Disc players as the two formats have come closer in price.
are now catching up and maybe selling better then Stand Alone HD DVD players. Hmmmm wonder how the HD DVD camp will spin this one.
HD DVD players are still selling better than standalone Blu-ray players. "Some consumer electronics retailers" the keyword being "some". The two retailers in question are relatively small.
Just look on Amazon, there are usually 2 or 3 HD DVD players before the first standalone player.
Did standalone Blu-ray player sales improved when they dropped the price to $500 and copied HD DVD's successful 5 free movie promotion? Of course they did. But HD DVD players are still outselling Blu-ray.
Standalone Blu-ray players (like the BDP-S300) will be out of spec come November and will not be able to play all of the features in upcoming movies. It's a shame that Sony is ripping people off this way.
Sony bdps300 is out of stock on amazon and they dont have all the bluray players,HDDVD IS DEAD
LOL. The Spinning has begun. You would be a great Wheel of Fortune contestant. The point is this trend is starting to pick up regardless of HD DVD's lower standalone price. It goes to show that price is not the key factor in this format war. It will only be a matter of time before Blu-ray standalones are selling better everywhere.
You sure do sound like a true MS/360/hd-dvd fan. You weren't the boy with the magic marker were you?
cdzie1..... your funny.... desparate but funny. LOL Look at the bloody numbers, HD DVD is on life surport.
Nielsen Numbers 8/05:This is for the desperate hddvd fanboys:
Week 8/05: BD 62, HD 38 YTD: BD 67, HD 33 SI: BD 60, HD 40
Week 7/29: BD 66, HD 34 YTD: BD 66, HD 34 SI: BD 60, HD 40
Week 7/22: BD 74, HD 26 YTD: BD 67, HD 33 SI: BD 60, HD 40
Week 7/15: BD 61, HD 39 YTD: BD 67, HD 33 SI: BD 60, HD 40
Week 7/08: BD 66, HD 34 YTD: BD 67, HD 33 SI: BD 60, HD 40
HA! you sony trolls are too funny sometimes. i'm neutral and want only 1 format to be succesful but i have a BIG feeling it won't happen this round. i predict this war to go the way of the dvd+r / dvd-r war; stalemate.
you guys don't even see the whole picture aside from whatever you feel is the successor in this HD battle due to your brand loyalties. your dominance of 60/40 is of a 5% (HD) total movie sales where majority of BR players is the ps3. even amongst all ps3 owners only a handful (13%) actually use it as a BR player only. go figure mommy bought lil johnny the next playstation.
with that said this war will rage on. ps3 is a great BR player, there's no denying it... but sony fanboys' obvious selective reading gets the better of them. HD DVD stand alone players are only used as players and they outsell BR stand alones which tells you the general non d*ckriding public has a bigger voice than you bloggers. winning a war is about outselling hardware AND software.
maybe when you guys get more worthy games you'll use your ps3 more than just a BR player you toot so much about. you never thought since when that happens, what will the BR movie sales be like?
this war is far from over ladies. the longer it goes, the more likely that the 'exclusive' studios will jump format neutral. your own samsung BR partner is even releasing a universal player including HD DVD playback. if you fail to see that as a sign of things to come, then continue trolling dominance and how HD DVD is dead
they will spin everything. the problem is the spin is far away from the truth.
This info war is far,far from over we are still going to discuss this well into 2009.
I still love regular dvds, they are cheaper, and they dont look THAT BAD?
HD DVD fanboys have been shouting about from day 1 and now they are losing that foothold. So the only thing left for them to say is Universal has their back. And you know what i got to say to that. NOT FOR LONG.
What does this have to do with gaming?
nothing but it is a good entertaiment while there isn`t any good news of games.
nothing but i like the fact they are fighting over a format
When Bjorn’s had adequate supply of Sony’s player in June, “we were seeing a 50/50 split in unit sales,” president Bjorn Dybdahl said. “That was primarily all three Toshiba players versus Sony’s $499 players. If the Blu-ray group wants to put a death knell on HD DVD, then they need to get it everywhere very quickly.”
sry I had to its true HDDVD give up already
HD DVD has a larger market share in high-def movies than PS3 has in video games. For those that say HD DVD is dead, then you must really believe that PS3 is dead, given that it’s performing worse in its market.
The ps3 has two major competitors in the videogame business while hddvd only fight blueray and not the majority of major videogames developers are sided with one side or the other but are rather multiplat.
Although i agree with you on the fact that saying that hddvd is dead is a little premature. The only thing that will declare the complete dead will be Universal to go multi.
how can you be stupid enough to compare two different markets... Video Games vs. Movies... HD-DVD vs. Playstation 3. They are completly different markets. Sure the playstation 3 has a lower share in its market, thats because its fighting against 5 other consoles (6 if you include the pc)... There are only two formats in the format war... so of course HD-dvd will have higher shares. Now your just pathetic for compareing two markets. Face it the format war is coming to an end very soon... and you wasted 200 bucks on a crappy add on.
Once Universal goes, HD-DVD dies.
I'd like for that to happen soon. A few movies I want on Blu-Ray are waiting on you, universal. I'm a geekcoat, I want Serenity on Blu-Ray (the series firefly would be cool also). Other then that who cares, 95% of movies I can get on Blu-Ray.
The priced of both media and players are dropping in price.
I will say this again and again, Just by simple observation the blu-ray discs tend to be cheaper than hd-dvd when comparing the same movie on both formats.
Plus I dont know why hd-dvd fanboys spin it off by saying the ps3 does not "really" represent sales of blu-ray players. Even to the extent that they say it is not a worthy player.
Through simple observation once again you actually see the ps3 in audio visual stores. This is the first time i;ve seen a gaming console in these types of stores.
Truthfully hd-dvd has only one advantage at this point the standalone players are aprox half t he price, but the gap is closing and t he media sales statistics just show that cheaper priced players do not always determine success of a product.
Oh and I forgot one other thing special features on a hd-dvd tend to be better, but it is simply not a selling point. But many fanboys make it seem like a selling point feature. It's like saying the smart media ports are a selling point on the ps3...
that stupid fanboy with the hddvd comments and arguments. Im a 360 fan myself...but blu ray >>hddvd. Dont be a fool just cause ms is backing up hd-dvd for now. Are u gonna cry when ms moves to bluray after the format war? becuase thats their strategy when it happens....thats y the 360 didnt include a high def player instead of a standard dvd drive. blu-ray is clearly the better technology. dont hate it just cause its made by sony. Ditch that blind obedience (when it applies to games it = fanboyism) or join a cult and off urself.
agreed... but i think microsoft didnt add a high deff player simply because it came out at the begining of the format war
damm i really agreed with me
So they deny the number of movies sold is indication (strange - but OK)...
Then they deny the PS3 is factor - and try to point at "stand-alone" players as the indicator... So - that argument is falling away...so
The last argument:
HD-DVD add-on players is outselling Blu-Ray, proving that HD-DVD is the choice next gen format. The only product out there is the XB360 add-on, so with no competition, they will win that one for sure - until a Blu Ray add on for the XB360 is available - so they are safe until then. So watch the next spin... Add-on HD-DVD outsells the competition.
And on the movies... Universal published movies outsells Universal published BR movies (because there is none... yet)
Thats it folks. Torture figures, and they will confess to anything...
yea, agree with that. and the fanboys and blind consumers eat it all up.
"We're not going to talk about sales figures anymore; sales figures are trivial in today's market. It's all about consumer mindshare. Nevermind that Blu-ray is outselling our format 8:1; the truth is, we couldn't be happier. Everybody knows about our product, and we're confident that consumers will take pity and purchase our $99 HD-DVD players, now available at your local flea market."
you should have mentioned how HDDVD changed their stance from "we are gonna win" to "its ok there can be 2 formats"
is the 3rd Bluray is dominating type article posted today. Don't you fanboys get enough.
The format war will take years just like the last one. Just bc Bluray is in PS3 will not change that.
Even with millions of PS3s sold HD media makes up only 5% of DVD sales.
And that is HDDVD+Bluray sales.
There are tech sites on the web that post these types of articles all day every day. This site is supposed to be about gaming.
decided for us.
This Christmas 2007 Blu-ray players will be getting a price cut but most of all they will be getting some good exclusive movies out in time for the holidays. Players will be selling more because consumers will want to watch the movies that are ONLY available on Blu-ray rather than buy the cheapest HD-DVD player that doesn't even output full 1080p. http://www.amazon.com/Toshi...
Those first generation HD-DVD players were a disgrace to High Definition, consumers were fooled and ripped off big time. http://reviews.cnet.com/452...
Why would someone take the time to make a meaningless topic like this for? There's really no point any of this any way since i own a few dvd players like a lot of people, and that's all i need to watch my movies.
the thing is the ps3 is providing the blu-ray market with tons of player's yes not everyone who has a ps3 has blu-ray films, BUT you can't say that it hasn't helped film sales. Blu-ray films sales are much higher than hddvd because of this and the more films sold, the more likey studio's will back blu-ray
No one has to spin anything HD-DVD outsells Blu-ray players. This thread is based off of Blu-ray hot spots by some retailers!. lol
SPIN LOL THIS VERY THREAD IS SPIN
"Some consumer electronics retailers see the sales gap closing between set-top HD DVD players"
Breaking news Amazon is seeing blah blah blah.
blue ray just sounds better, and more original then the always dubbed hddvd, hdtv, hddis, hdanime,hdngc, you get the picture, blue ray reminds me of a ocean animal!
People are focusing too much on what the importance of a stand alone or a gaming console to the DVD's market, or who sell more stand alones and whatever...
The problem is, stand alone or not, you don't buy a player to look at its face... You buy such a thing to see movies, shows, porn and... well you got it.
So what matters in the end and the way that the industry would count who is outselling who, is simple saying "This month was sold X movies in the Format A platform and Y movies in the Format B platform".
That would be enough or, at least, the focus in this war.
didn't HDdvd copy Blu-Ray with the 5 free movie offer?
HD - DVD life will be decided if Universal decides to go to blu ray or not. Thats the only major movie ppl i can think of exclusive to hddvd but i would love to be proven wrong
Yes! HD-DVD losing more money and selling less players.
Yup, cdzie is just desperate like all HD-DVDEAD supporters. Why? Why do you insist on prolonging this war in customers minds? You don't deserve to live if you support HD-DVDEAD.
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