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Submitted by BIoodmask 1344d ago | news

NPD: Xbox 360 Soars as Hardware Sales Jump, But Software Sales Dip 8% in July

IndustryGamers has just received the July NPD video game sales data, and as was predicted, software sales were down again, dipping eight percent to $403.3 million. Hardware, however, driven in part by the Xbox 360 slim and price reductions on older 360 models, climbed 12 percent to $313.8 million. As a result, total industry sales were down just one percent in July, reaching $846.5 million. Year-to-date, total game industry sales in the U.S. are now at $7.51 billion, which is behind 2009's pace by eight percent. (Industry, Nintendo DS, PC, PS3, PSP, Wii, Xbox 360)

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Ziriux  +   1344d ago
Terrible sales, sports games on top ouch.
sunnygrg  +   1344d ago
I wonder how long the new 360 S impact will last.

Overall, all sales are down.
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Mustang300C2012  +   1344d ago
2 months in a row to beat out the Wii and first month beating the DS is a nice start. With Reach coming out It will continue.
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ActionBastard  +   1344d ago
The impact will last as long as older models are available.

*side note* - Crackdown 2 LOL!
Projekt7tuning  +   1344d ago
Flak vest anyone. Get your helmets here. Kevlar Helmets. LOL
SDF vs XBDF. No matter how stupid this is, Its Jihad time!
theKiller  +   1344d ago
not bad for 360S!!
2 strong months for 360S!! i guess it still have some life left before the final fall when MOVE come out!! wait, u know what? i changed my mind, i think 360 will not die this generation, they are doing fine but not as good as wii or ps3 because most of their sales come from US while the other make their sales all around the world. any way i think competition is healthy and i dont want 360 to die!! lets make this generation the longest!!

it amazes me how the sale of NCAA Football 2011 on ps3 is so close to 360 even though the install base 3-4 times more for the 360 in US.

NCAA Football 2011 (360) – 368K
NCAA Football 2011 (PS3) – 298.8K

this only means one thing, either half of the 360s are dead in the garage, or user having multiple 360 and so they dont buy 1 for each console they own or half of the 360 are modded/hacked or a mixture of all the mentioned reasons.

of someone disagrees with me please give a reason and an answer to NCAA Football 2011 sales for both consoles.
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siyrobbo  +   1344d ago
yoy both the 360 and ps3 are up around 100%
ExplosionSauce  +   1344d ago
Is this just U.S. data?
Hmmm

Anyways, time for a snack :P
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Projekt7tuning  +   1344d ago
@ theKiller
Maybe more jocks buy the PS3 and Frat boys. Maybe There still trying to catch up with all the other games that came out recently. If you want to go by your logic look at the difference in sales with MW2 or RDR. Lot of 360 sku's moved. So there, Are you happy someone answered you. Nothing is going to change. Sony is going to keep selling the PS3 and MS is going to keep selling the 360 no matter what. So bitch till your vocal cords stretch, nothings going to change.
tinybigman  +   1344d ago
sales sales sales
you people are so goddamn one dimensional. if any of you here who love talking sales let me know if you own stock in any of these companies.
DaTruth  +   1344d ago
"Round 853048"

"FIGHT"
kneon  +   1344d ago
Actually that's not a very important indicator. What you need to watch is whether the software sales show any significant increase over the next few months. If they don't then it would indicate that most 360 slims are just going to existing customers. Microsoft needs to get new customers, not just keep selling to the same customers they already have.
sak500  +   1344d ago
@kenon

"Actually that's not a very important indicator. What you need to watch is whether the software sales show any significant increase over the next few months."

Gee i wonder why ps fanboys were singing the 120million songs of ps2 and telling everyone that wait and see the ps2 crowd shifting to ps3 and crushing 360. By your logic 120million ps2 owners should have shown the ps2 games selling in the region of 50million at least but we know what happened there din't we. Most pirated gaming console in the last gen and tens of millions of bad dvd issues meant games sales were just averaging few 100k. This din't stop it to be number 1 last gen but yet the software sales suddenly count this gen.
darkride66  +   1343d ago
As expected.
The 360 does great in the US, so the price cut on the old models and the launch of the 360S were sure to spark sales. There's not doubt this resulted in a boost worldwide as well. The question is, now that the old, cheaper Xbox units are gone and the 360S is the same price as the old units were before the price drop, will the sales boost be sustained or peter out. The last time the 360 received a massive price drop, sales spiked during the holiday season and then saw 4 consecutive quarters of year over year sales declines worldwide.

I really can't see the 360S boosting the 360's fortunes that much in the long run. Now the launch of the 360s and a price cut below what the old 360's were going for would probably kick sales into gear on a more permanent basis.
insomnium  +   1343d ago
@sak500
"This din't stop it to be number 1 last gen but yet the software sales suddenly count this gen."

Am I reading this correctly? Are you implying that the reason why software sales are so important comes from PS3 fans?

This goes along the same lines as that goo'ol "below 90 in MC is not AAA". Recently I've seen x360 fanboys pretending that they don't know that was the phraze THEY CAME UP WITH to counter the first wave of top PS3 games (uncharted and Ratchet tod). I mean it's SO twisted. WHAT!?

YOU said below 90 in MC is not AAA.
YOU made the sales important after seeing the PS3 wasn't doomed and started selling more than the x360 on monthly basis WW. YOU STARTED THIS AND NOW YOU ARE THE VICTIM WHEN IT BACKFIRES? GTFO!
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AngryTypingGuy  +   1343d ago | Well said
With Halo: Reach and Kinect coming out, the 360 has a good Fall/Christmas season to look forward to.

It looks like anyone who says anything positive about the success of the 360 has a lot of disagrees for that comment. Some people just can't stand that fact that the 360 is successful for Microsoft and the the days of PS2-like Sony dominance are over. In fact, forget dominance, at this point, Sony would be grateful to be barely winning. Of course, with the ultra-success of the Wii, Nintendo can take just as much credit for taking away Sony's market share.
insomnium  +   1343d ago
@AngryTypingGuy
Halo will help MS but Halo already has 2 iterations released. The impact shouldn't be that big I mean what could possibly be the reason behind that?

The people who will be buying a x360 because of a new Halo are going to be mostly the people who's warranty has run out of their console. Halo 3 did launch about 3 years ago right?

And for the record I can say that PS3 will sell over 100 million in it's lifetime. No matter how much the x360 and Wii sells. That's good for them. Sony however get's their 100 million sales again. It will be their 3rd time in a row. What does you dominance comment mean? You only looking for a way to bash Sony?
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NinjaAssassin  +   1343d ago
I've heard lots of fanboys claiming that the sales spike would only last around a month and then go back down, but it turns out they were all wrong. A lot more 360s were sold this month than last month. And with Halo Reach coming out in September and then the holidays coming up right after that I think the 360 will continue to sell extremely well.
kneon  +   1343d ago
@sak500

When you sell consoles at a loss or for minimal profit then software sales are what matters the most. That goes for Sony just as much as it does for Microsoft. The launch of the PS3 slim was followed by a significant jump in software sales. I never said we wouldn't see the same for the 360s, all I'm saying is that is the number you really want to keep an eye on as that shows new customers are being gained.

And for the record I've never owned a PS2 or a PS1.
Aquanox  +   1343d ago
Xbox 360 443.5K
Nintendo DS 398.4K
Nintendo Wii 253.9K
PS3 214.5K
PSP 84K

Wow! The Xbox 360 owned both the DS and Wii.

Even more, the Xbox 360 sales were virtually Wii+PS3 sales combined. The Slim is giving MS a lot of profit. Now let's just wait for Halo, Fable and Kinect.
likedamaster  +   1343d ago
Xbox 360 S 2:1 over PS3 for this month. Nuff said.
insomnium  +   1343d ago
@likedamaster
You do know that in the latest 2 weeks in Japan the PS3 sold 61k consoles more? Should end up somwhere around 100k more in one month. It really takes the edge away from what you just said doesn't it?
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frostypants  +   1343d ago
@Aquanox
The new 360 is making them money indeed, but it's primarily sales to existing 360 owners, I'd wager. Gamestop even had a trade-in promotion. Sales <> user base.

Anyways, I'm gonna go play MW2 on Live, then Demons Souls on PSN while you chumps are arguing.
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Droid Smasha  +   1344d ago | Well said
360S is KILLING right now
its even outselling the Wii. MS knew what it was doing all along and has the fall all wrapped up.

Nothing can stop the momentum of Halo and Kinect
Homicide  +   1344d ago | Funny
Oh yeah Reach is coming out next month. 360 sales are going to soar when the game is out.

Halo: it's not just a game. It's a culture phenomenon.

Edit: gif time :D

http://i48.photobucket.com/...
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presto717  +   1344d ago
LMAO @ gif
Haha.
chase167  +   1344d ago
Crackdown 2 – 208.8K
lol
Trebius   1344d ago | Trolling | show
sak500  +   1344d ago
@homicide

Even funnier than your jpg. LOL
You deserve more bubbles mate.. + bubbs
Blaze929  +   1344d ago
Xbox 360 is doing quite well! Impressive
Hallmark Moment  +   1344d ago
You're lucky is you have a Slim because all the shops and stores where I live get a stockpile of them in and they sell out in a day or two tops. Every time I get some cash they are out and when I spend it when something comes up they get them in for a short while. MY local GS pal says he gets phone calls all day looking for 360 Slims
NinjaAssassin  +   1343d ago
Hell yeah it's doing impressive sales. It actually sold almost as much as the PS3 and Wii combined.
hakis86  +   1344d ago
I don't get it
are the ones buying the 360 slim already owners of an older 360, or are they all new owners?
And are these actual sales numbers or shipped units?
I still have my 360 without HDMI(!) and I'm not buying a new one because it's a bit slimmer and shiny.
Good for Microsoft though, I guess.
Greywulf   1344d ago | Trolling | show
theIMP  +   1344d ago
Does it really matter if it's new customers or not? I mean a sale is a sale. You Really don't get why they are selling? They are selling the same reason all redesigned consoles do...it's new and improved. I also think it has a lot to do with the older models being phased out to make room, they are really cheap now.
siyrobbo  +   1344d ago
because console owners are only interested in NCAA Football
gamingdroid  +   1344d ago
@Greywulf
Evidence?

Did you consider that game type preferences might determine what game is sold most on what platform?

What about Crackdown 2, Red Dead Redemption and Modern Warfare 2 that is in the top 10? What other PS3 game is in the top 10 this month? Can't find any? Really? Does that mean the PS3 owners don't buy games? Of course not!

By the way, here is your counter-evidence: "Xbox 360 Version of Black Ops Prestige Edition Trouncing PS3 Version in Sales"

http://n4g.com/news/582998/...

I'm sure I can find a lot more to support either case so let it be okay? It will be a much nicer place here when people stop being a fanboy.

People are seriously drawing whatever conclusion fits their agenda.
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The Maxx  +   1344d ago | Well said
@ Gryewulf

"Nope, its the same 360 owners buying 360's again. Evidence?"

Just like all the Fat PS3 owners are the only ones buying PS3 Slims...

Greywulf your rational is truly pathetic.
n4gno  +   1343d ago
Microsoft = shipped (nintendo, sony = sold)but it's not a big difference, shipped, is really close to sold.

the momentum will finish soon, the most interested by xbox slim are xbox owner, everyone else want a better hardware, games, motion controler, 3D, and bluray for the same price.

by the way, who can say n4G it's a ps3 fanboyz sites, when you see that kind of agree and disagree, i know that xbox fanboyz have multiple accounts, and are really interested by sales (only us :)), but common, it's more than 5 to 1 here agreeing with bullcraps, disagreeing with some facts.
It's sad to see dumb gamers happy for sales, when thay don't have any good exclusives since 2 years, when they have to pay for playing online, have to pay hard to change HD, they have to pay the new eye toy 4 time the price, when they have to deal with rrod, etc, it"s like a sect, not a community of gamers.

edit : to the misinformed bellow, ps3 = 4 millions consoles more than microsoft last year.

lol@uggly multiples accounts, lying, and saying stupid thing like "i really can't think of one time the sony fanboys on n4g have actually been "right" about anything" when bluray is doomed, ps3 is doomed, natal is the future, killzone 2 graphics can't exist, xbox would tale all the exclusives to sony, xbox sell more games, etc etc : you are always wrong xfanboyz, always ! it's just a fact, even the worst sony fanboyz can beat the average xfanboy, living in dreamland.
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hakis86  +   1342d ago
@theIMP
I see your point, sales are sales.

In short It just seems as though people really believe it's a new Xbox (Xbox 360S - compare it to iPhone 3G vs iPhone 3GS, where S was for Speed(?), and it indeed had better specs - faster CPU and more ram). Maybe they are confused by the "S" - thinking it's an actual hardware upgrade?

The 'new' Xbox to me is just the same as the ones on sale last year, only that it is a bit smailler (hardly SLIM), black and nice looking, and supposedly has less heat problems. And since I see a lot of gamers writing "daaaang i'm getting the new one!" it just feels slightly ridiculous.

But yeah, maybe you're right; maybe prices on the "old" 360 are being dumped so that's why people decide to pick one up... makes sense actually.
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knightdarkbox  +   1344d ago | Well said
So, I'm guessing that the PS3 beating the 360 in sales was just a 3 month stint, eh?

What ever happened to the "rise of the PS3"?
NecrumSlavery  +   1344d ago
Sony has been the lead platform for 100,000 IPs created over the past 16 years. Why is it that you worship MS? Just wondering. It seems that before Microsoft started in the console race, there weren't any fanboys like today. But since some of the biggest fanboys are MS employees they have really started a cult of sheep. It's sick. Childesh hate for what? And to praise a company that has only a handful of IPs. 90% of everything MS has is bought. Money to monopolize the industry. MS does not care about the industry, they are only about money. You can love their system, but know who you are slobbering on.
ShinMaster  +   1344d ago
Necrum
Well said, well said.
IdleLeeSiuLung  +   1344d ago
@necro
"And to praise a company that has only a handful of IPs. 90% of everything MS has is bought."

Are you saying that Sony didn't spend money to acquire their studios? They just assemble a team and promised them heaven. No money was involved at all. It was God's gift to man courtesy of Sony!

You sound like a bitter fanboi.
NegativeCreepWA  +   1344d ago
I know according the fanboys on this site the PS3 was supposed to be leaving the 360 behind 2 years ago. Oh, and we would be playing the so called 720 already.
bustamove  +   1344d ago
Scar 360WA
So 369 fanboys should be the ones that act childish first, going by your logic?

This is nothing to jump around about. The year isn't over yet.
NegativeCreepWA  +   1344d ago
How did you come up with all that from my comment?

I was just saying the 360 is still selling strong when people said it would be dead by now and that MS hasn't released a new console in 2010 like people said they would. If you've been around as long as I have you would know what I'm talking about.

By the the way who was acting childish or jumping up and down? And what does right now have to do with the end of the year? I've been hearing that one for 4 years now and nothing has changed.

People should just face that fact that both consoles are great and neither is going to come out of this gen crushing the other. Unless you count the Wii.

If you want to see childish go read the comments in that Turn 10 article.
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Lyr1c  +   1343d ago
This is ridiculous.

If anyone says "This site is nothing but PS3 fanboys. Just look at the agrees!" again, I'm going to shoot something.

Seriously. This is just as bad as the PS3 fanboys if not worse. You're doing exactly what they are, while being hypocritical about it.

C'mon now people. Grow up.
NinjaAssassin  +   1343d ago | Well said
@Lyr1c

What's your point? I see a 360 fan answered immediately by a couple rabid PS3 fanboys. The PS3 fanboy said much more idiotic and hateful things than the 360 fanboy. The 360 fan was just commenting in response to how many times we have been told by PS3 fanboys that the 360 is dying and that the PS3 was going to demolish it in sales. The PS3 fan then went off on a tirade saying a bunch of biased nonsense.

@NecrumSlavery
Sony BOUGHT all of those studios, they didn't just join up with Sony for charity. If Microsoft bought more studios you guys would just be bitching about that and you know it. They can't win. Your hatred is irrational and that is why you are so self-contradictory. You're a liar on top of that. Sony has not created anywhere close to 100,000 new IPs. In fact, I could count on two hands the Sony created IPs that really matter to me.

Oh and there have always been fanboys. I've been playing games since the beginning and there have always been fanboys. With the rise of the internet it has become a lot more visible, but it has always been there. Your attempts to blame fanboyism on Microsoft or 360 fanboys is laughably absurd.

Finally, if you think Sony is perfect or any better than Microsoft you need to go do some research. Neither company is perfect, but neither company is a monster the way you want to make Microsoft out to be. You hate them because you are a Playstation fanboy and you are angry that they are a competitor to Sony in the game industry. That's all it is.
hazeblaze  +   1344d ago
The PS3 is my fav console, so I'm not a 360 fanboy... but those sales are pretty remarkable for the month after the redesign... doesn't look like they're on the verge of flattening out. And with Halo Reach around the corner (no matter what you think about the game)... I think Microsoft has won the momentum for the rest of the year. In terms of games, I think Sony has the momentum going into the new year... but that's too little, too late so far as sales go.
niceguywii60  +   1344d ago
I knew the 360 would outsell the Wii again. 360 will outsell Wii in AUG and SEP come in second in OCT and Win in NOV/DEC/JAN. I predicted close to 400,000 or just over a week ago and I will do the same for AUG but will raise the amount to close to 500,000 for SEP. Kinect will sell close to 800,000 360's a month in the US alone this holiday.
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Dlacy13g  +   1343d ago
@Ziriux
"Sports games on top ouch" really? You really just complained about sports games being on top? Maybe you dont like sports...fine.. so be it. But most of the world actually does enjoy sports of one kind or another. It so happens that in the N. America, American Football college or pro tend to be popular. Sorry you are bent about "sports games"... I guess you will be disappointed by August too when Madden rolls out and crushes all in sales.
otherZinc  +   1343d ago
To various Sites & Podcast members that.............
wrongfully said "the PS3 will catch the 360 this year or next year. How the hell are they going to do that?
Getting BLOWN-OUT like this?
Trebius  +   1343d ago
Everyone knows why the software sales are down while the Hardware sales are up...
People are upgrading to the Slim, no one decided to just get a 360 right now after all these years.

All of these 360s out in the US and the software sales are still garbage.

M$ is obviously counting old RROD/E47 models, and non-shipped systems as sold.
theEx1Le  +   1343d ago
Your logic is totally flawed, because based on your logic why would one just decide to go buy a ps3 after all these years? And don't give me your excuse about exclusives and blu ray and what not, because in the end these usually mean little to the casual consumer(most times all that matter is the price). See I don't usually get involved in these things, because these topic "discussions" usually end up full of hate and immaturity, but your reasoning was so wrong that I just couldn't help myself.
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otherZinc  +   1343d ago
Momentum?
What happened to that SONY momentum that was to propel the PS3 past the 360 this year or early next year?
Consoldtobots  +   1343d ago
lol looks like we need to break out the raincoats in here, the xbox fanboy jerkfest is at a fever pitch. slowdown kids or you'll end up blind.

play games not sales.
Montrealien  +   1344d ago
Interesting.
solar  +   1344d ago
same ol story. 360 outsells Ps3 in america, the only region that matters since the rest of the world is PC dominate.
edhe  +   1343d ago
PC doesn't count in a console race.

Numbnuts.

It's like watching an F1 race only to have a jetfighter pop in to take the trophy o_O.
diatom  +   1343d ago
Ummm... Pretty sure PC's outsell the 360 in the US too.
dkgshiz  +   1344d ago
Where is Starcraft 2?
A disagree for wondering where Starcraft 2 is? Ah.......K?
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diatom  +   1343d ago
One disagree, seven accounts.
Omega4  +   1344d ago | Well said
PSP is dead seriously, not even 100K. And PS3 demand is shrinking now that the slim effect is gone.

As for the 360 just imagine Aug when the $199 releases. Then Sept with Reach and the bundle.

The gap will likely grow to 7ml by year end with Kinect coming.

@cescgooner88
Will be big but not a huge system seller since there are over 4ml GT PS3 owners already from GT5P. I will sell 500K units max in EU and thats not a lot.

@DuneBuggy
If Kinect takes off it can.

@kartik21
Gears 3 says hi. And by the time the PS3 reaches $199 it will be too late.
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moegooner88  +   1344d ago
Gran Turismo 5, enough said !
ShinMaster  +   1344d ago
Gran Turismo 5
LittleBigPlanet 2
Killzone 3
The Last Guardian

Are all big hitters.

@Omega
Too late for what? PS3 will continue to sell no matter what.
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Wakka_  +   1344d ago
LOL @ Last Guardian. Ico games are niche. It will not help boost PS3 sales.
Solotov  +   1344d ago
LOL @ ShinGino, Killzone 3 is not even coming out this year
ActionBastard  +   1344d ago
Puff, puff, pass man. You've smoked it all.

Gears 3, Fable 3 and...
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edhe  +   1343d ago
Same could be said for the ps3 - killzone, LBP, GT5... and?

Hopefully Sony are bring out something secret before christmas because they're going to get absolutely trounced with it's current line up.
Sitris  +   1343d ago
Trounced?
How the hell did you list Gran Turismo 5 and think sony is going to get trounced. Never heard of the continent Europe? They are CRAZY over that game, you can think US is all that matters, but you are wrong.
@Omega, saying that 4 million people bought a PS3 for prologue also aplies to people have already bought a 360 for Halo 3....your logic fails. Comparing a game like GT5P to a full game is the same as ODST to Halo 3, see the difference in sales?
DuneBuggy  +   1344d ago
Hey I love my 360S (actually contributed to that July number), but theres NO WAY the 360 will be 7 million up on the PS3 by year end. Thats as dilusional as the people last year claiming the PS3 slim would overtake the 360 WW by the end of 09'.

As for the PSP, I hope rumors are true about a Android phone colaboration. That would make it a very strong player.
bartender64  +   1343d ago
That depends
On the cost of that new psp and if you would need a contract to obtain it...
theEx1Le  +   1343d ago
And how much the games cost...
Karooo  +   1344d ago
they have nothing after reach
bungie left them, ms no studios as well, no games in 2011, when sony drops the ps3 to 200$ its over for the 360

PS3 actually is close to the wii, the 360 sales are due to the price cut.

@lachance.. Save the ps3? lmao are you fanboys crazy its at 38 million install base, praying for doom of the other console is over, it can only improve from now on.

Sony has tons of studios, microsoft has none worthwile.

Crytek kingdom lmao hahaha

Selling why lachance due to the price cut its normal.
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La Chance  +   1344d ago | Well said
"they have nothing after reach"

Fable 3, Gears 3, Kingdom from Crytek just off the top of my head.

"when sony drops the ps3 to 200$ its over for the 360"
Homicide posted this in another thread http://img837.imageshack.us...
Says it all :)

@below: kicking ass in EU and overall outselling the PS3 worldwide. Happy ? :)
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PopEmUp  +   1344d ago
so La Chance
is that all? Fable and Gear? isn't that the same as 2008?
chrisgay  +   1343d ago
@PopEmUp

Gran Turismo and LittleBigPlanet? Isn't that the same as 2008?

Look at that- works both ways.
Sitris  +   1343d ago
Hmmmm
i dont remember playing a GT sequal in 2008? Oh thats right it was a PROLOGUE, basicly a demo, at least they released something for me and the millions of fans to play. My god people on this site annoy me, GT5 will sell millions (10s probably), CoD will outsell everything, Halo will be a huge success, Fable will be fantastic, LBP2 will be revolutionary, and all great multiplats should be played as well. Can't the games speak for themselves?
The real Colombian  +   1343d ago
La chance
thanx for the link it had me rotfl....but so far as sales both systems will continue to have growth.Who gives a fuck wich one sells more it's not like i get a piece of it.
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wissam  +   1344d ago
Omega
I give the golden middle for being the most radical x360 fanboy in this site.
edhe  +   1343d ago
He's not a fanboy.

He doesn't spout rubbish, actually, just speaks from the other point of view. Fanboys tend to spout rubbish.
Nitrowolf2  +   1344d ago
Omega
you say GT5 won't be a huge system seller
what makes reach be that huge system seller?
people who are gonna buy reach already own a 360, the majority is coming from people who bought Halo 3 because of halo 2
halo fanatics bought there 360 a long time ago
just saying, you say the majority of GT fan already own a ps3 (even though there are still a lot of who actually did not) what makes that different then reach?

there are still plenty of GT fans who have not bought a PS3
not trashing Halo or 360 or anything like that, but lets look at this. GT5 and GT5P.

GT5P: GT fans knew right a way this was not a real GT game and knew right a way that GT5 was going to come out later. Making it the true first GT game on current Gen console

Halo: Halo 1 and 2 got a lot of people buying Xbox back in the day, Halo one awesome Halo 2 MP was amazing and addicting. Halo 3 came out most of those people waiting to buy a 360 bought it. And then Halo ODST came out which more people bought, and also Halo RTS or what ever it was. 3 Halo game in one Gen (soon 4) i think the majority of people already bought there 360 just for Halo. 360 will see a great boost once Halo reach and the 200 360 come out, but i really don't think it would be about Halo for the boost more like the cheaper model.
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NinjaAssassin  +   1343d ago
You act like there is this static Halo fanbase that are the only people that buy the Halo games. Well, you are dead wrong. Each main Halo title has sold more than the previous one, so obviously more people continue to get interested in it. Halo Reach will likely sell more than all previous Halo titles.

I have heard many people on forums and comment sections throughout the net say that they plan on buying a 360 mainly to play Halo Reach.

In the end though, you can assume whatever you want. But I say, just wait and see. Sales of the 360 will be very strong in September.
Nitrowolf2  +   1343d ago
my comment was about hardware not software
i am basing my comment off of omega saying GT5 will not be a console seller, but whereas reach is.
Both of them will be, but according to omega only reach willbe the console seller.
the fact that he says there are already 4mil GTP5 fans and saying that is why it won't sell console is invalid, because what there are over 10million Halo buyers who bought 3.
what is there difference?????????
got to love the 15 other people who disagreed with out commenting.
I just wanted to know what the difference was between the 2 big system seller from Omega Statement, i didn't want to know about software because i already stated that each Halo more sells software and hardware.
so what makes 4million buyers GTP5 and over 10million Halo buyers difference from each other?
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Trebius  +   1343d ago
@nitrowolf
Each Halo game that is released is a "full" Halo game in the franchise, not a demo.

So after 5 Halo games on the 360 every Halo fan that is a Halo fan has already purchased a 360.

GT hasnt had a game released on the PS3, and the fans know there is one coming, so most are waiting for its release before picking up the PS3. I picked up a PS3 very early thinking GT5 would be released soon, but boy was I wrong.

But in any case, the GT franchise hasnt had a release on the PS3 yet, so it's not the same for Halo and GT.

Halo has had 5 full game releases this Gen.
GT has had NONE.

If you dont get it after this, there's no hope for you.
tinybigman  +   1344d ago
omega
you are a goddamn idiot who live for sales, sales, sales. go play a game or two damnit. to all of you who live for sales, sales, sales are the saddest people on this ball sucking site.
theIMP  +   1343d ago
LOL, you said Ball sucking site. Bubbles for that. That is funny.
Lyr1c  +   1343d ago
Ohhh Lordy Lordy

This site is full of nothing but 360 fanboys! Just look at the agrees!

Sound familiar anyone? Hypocrites FTL
weazel  +   1343d ago
"I(sic) will sell 500K units max in EU"

Gran Turismo?!??!Europe!?!

Ok dude. Way to expose your ferocious ignorance!

Europe

Gran Turismo / 4,300,000
Gran Turismo 2 / 3,680,000
Gran Turismo 3 / 5,850,000
Gran Turismo Concept 2002 TOKYO-GENEVA / 1,000,000
Gran Turismo 4 “Prologue” / 410,000
Gran Turismo 4 / 6,410,000
Gran Turismo 5 “Prologue” / 2,440,000

*Edit:Total: 24,000,000+ in Europe alone.
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monkey nuts  +   1343d ago
Omega4:" Will be big but not a huge system seller since there are over 4ml GT PS3 owners already from GT5P. I will sell 500K units max in EU and thats not a lot."

Lol! You truly are a blind fanbaby. GT5 will do a minimum of 3 to 4 million in the eu easily, and thats being conservative. GT1 practically invented the jap import market here in the uk, do not underestimate the beast that is the gt ip.
adamx  +   1343d ago
so this will be your 6th 360... what a sheep you are.
360 is garbage .
ChronoJoe  +   1343d ago
Omega are you so naive as to think that 4mil GTP owners + 500k = everyone that will buy GT5?

GT5 will top 10mil LTD. With ~2-3mil of those consumers being new PS3 owners.

Halo Reach, and GT5 will pretty much balance eachother out, in how much hardware they push. Same with Gears 3 and Uncharted. With PS3 hardware figures increasing on 360, since launch... it's very unlikely the 360 won't be overtaken in late 2011.
madpuppy  +   1343d ago
I think that the 360 is benefiting from that
same "slim effect" increase that you just mentioned . as for the drop in game sales, that is tied to two things, the drought of games the 360 has been having and the "new" casual direction the 360 is going in. Like Nintendo, the casuals will buy the 360 and even kinect and be totally happy with the starter disc that comes with it. and just like the Wii, casuals will not feel the need to buy more games.

Frankly, I think with the new 360 MS was pretty smart removing the error rings. so, now if the new 360 suffers from the same problem, you will not be able to get the free repair. that is customer service for you. I would not be surprised if MS revamped the error codes on the new console so it will throw a new esoteric code rather than the E-74. a great way to keep for having to provide free service. MS is so forward thinking. blah...
lelo2play  +   1344d ago
Big sales for X360. I did not expect that much. It would be interesting to know the numbers for StarCraft II.
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Solidus187-SCMilk  +   1344d ago
they said the number for starcraft 2
Its for NA only, but they said a little over 700K fpr SC 2.
evrfighter  +   1343d ago
NPD numbers aren't even half of pc game sales. they can only track retail. PC gaming has gone digital for a few years now.

pc gaming is the exception to NPD as their numbers would be just as good as vgcharts or michael pachter predictions.
Homicide  +   1344d ago
"PSP – 84K"

??? Looks like Sony needs to step their game up with the PSP. PSPGo couldn't save it. Gran Turismo couldn't save it. The new marketing ads couldn't save it. A price drop might be good for the short run.

Anyways, solid numbers for 360 and DS.
big_silky  +   1344d ago
I think it's time they drop the base model down to $129. At that price I'd buy one. I can't justify almost $200 for a handheld.
raztad  +   1344d ago
Very good numbers for the xbox. The new model is selling well.
dkgshiz  +   1344d ago
It would be nice if there was an official world wide sales report.
Instead of Just the American sales reports.
LOL. Whats with these disagrees? Man, some people are so timid.
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Cold 2000  +   1344d ago
Yeah so you can feel better about your PS3 right ?
dkgshiz  +   1344d ago
What fanboy?
I just want a worldwide sales report. Then we can actually see everything thats going on in the world. Instead of just the US. Its not that hard to understand.
Projekt7tuning  +   1344d ago
Why so you can practice other excuses?
silvacrest  +   1344d ago
@Cold
your so eager to bash you didn't even think this might be good for the 360 too, did you? typical fanboy

everyone always says the 360 only sells in the US and UK, with WW numbers perhaps we could find out if thats true
ElementX  +   1344d ago
Impossible, 90% of the world doesn't have official numbers, including a majority of Europe.
Karooo  +   1344d ago
oh shut up cold
you insecure little fanboy.

its a price drop was expected, 360 is cheap as hell no wonder its selling and ps3 is close to the wii
demonddel  +   1344d ago
quit hating cuz ur favorite company is in last place in America
Nitrowolf2  +   1344d ago
Dk i believe 360 is still outselling PS3 by about 400K worldwide that what it was last month i believe
Consoldtobots  +   1343d ago
but don't you 360 fanboys only look at north american sales so you can feel better about your 360?

see how that works?
Light Yagami  +   1344d ago
Boom! Cell shot!
ER-AM  +   1344d ago
Pissing contest over sales numbers in 3...2...1...Go!

EDIT: What's there to disagree with, oh cowardly douche AKA pusher of the disagree? Look around. All I see are comments from people having a dick measuring contest concerning the latest NPD numbers. I used pissing contest as a euphemism.
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poopface1  +   1344d ago
you say "pissing contest"
but its really more of a 'shower of tears' from criers like you.

If these sales numbers hurt your feelings you should not read the article.
gunnerforlife  +   1344d ago
who the fuk is buying modern warfare :/
aviator189  +   1344d ago
Haha...
Yeah, I don't get it either.
Maybe kids going through puberty..
Jazz4108  +   1343d ago
if there in puberty they should be out having sex not playing modern warfare.
user8397144  +   1344d ago
what the hell modern warfare 2 is a good game! is not it's fault that bad company 2 sucks compared to it.
solar  +   1344d ago
lemmings obviously. when you have so little options for games in a current gen what do you expect?
Wakka_  +   1344d ago
IN B4 PS3 FANBOYS...
Saying "b-b-but sales don't matter!!!" I remember you PS3 gazelles where jumping for joy when PS3 was outselling 360.
wissam  +   1344d ago
You are acting just like the poor FF guy in your avatar.
BX81  +   1344d ago
Hmm
True story! Both sides do it. I think it's funny to watch in a sad way!
Nitrowolf2  +   1344d ago
it is true
when 360 fan care PS3 don't
win PS3 fan care 360 fan don't
Ryuk  +   1344d ago
lmao
360 brings a vicious right hook to sonys jaw (scott pilgrim style) and delivers a brutal K.O!!
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abi980  +   1344d ago
bu bu bu the gap... there's your fucking gap now
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BX81  +   1344d ago
Hmm
LMAO! 1600MS point card is the highest selling for 5 months in a row! All those 10th lobbies in MW2. Plus some pretty good XBL Arcade titles no doubt!
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Solotov  +   1344d ago
!@!@!!@
WOW, both the PS3 & the Wii *really* need a price drop.
I believe next month the 360 will outsell the Wii and PS3 again because more supply of the new slim 360 should be available.
With $50 dollar blu-ray players coming, there will be less of a reason to get a PS3.
SkyGamer  +   1343d ago
Your right about blu-ray. I wonder how many ps3's would have sold if it weren't for the blu-ray. Talk about a double edged sword. Put blu-ray in it and boost your numbers, but then there aren't as many software or peripheral sales as people only use it for blu-ray movies. Decisions, decisions. . .
Ivan Drago IV  +   1344d ago
Lol
Do you 360 fanboys really think Sony won't drop the ps3 price this year? Look;

PS3 2011;The last guardian, Twisted Metal, Agent, Killzone 3, Motorstorm Apocalypse,Socom 4, Sorcery and Infamous 2.

360 2011; Gears 2.. Congrats on the sales though!
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commodore64  +   1344d ago | Well said
Dude, something to consider.

Sony has LOST money on the ps3 for four years straight.
It has lost more money on the ps3 than it ever made on the ps2:
http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

They have only just broken even on the sale of ps3 hardware.
However, their NPD division, which houses the ps3, is STILL posting losses overall - blatant proof that any profits on the $299 PS3 are marginal at best:
http://gamrfeed.vgchartz.co...

The total accumulated losses of the ps3 amount to nearly $5 billion.
http://www.thesixthaxis.com...
If they drop the price on the ps3, they will continue to add to the $5 billion losses.

There will not be a ps3 price drop this year, or anytime soon.
That would be financial suicide for Sony.
But don't take my word for it... read what Sony thinks about your suggestion:
http://nexus404.com/Blog/20...

Please try to think and/or do some research.
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Solotov  +   1343d ago
I am talking purely from a market share point-of-view that Sony needs to drop the price, but because of the profitability, they can't
dazzalfc  +   1344d ago
........
God i hate all this bullcrap from half of you guys on here. I personally think my dog has more intelligence and maturity than most of you.

Good 360 sales as expected. Its Microsofts strongest territory, and it should come as little surprise that the new model would prove popular with new and current 360 owners. Its affect has so far been virtually identical to the PS3 slim, although whether it will have the same long term effect remains to be seen, especially with Move and a rumoured price drop just around the corner.

Virtually little point in stating all this though, all anyone is going to do on this site now is argue non stop over something so bloody meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The fact that some of you are that obsessed with 'getting one over the other side' in terms of sales is, frankly, fucking pathetic. Far bigger issues in gaming other than trying to justify why your choice is teh greatest eva.

None of the companies are going anywhere, all are doing incredibly well at a difficult time financially worldwide. Can't we start giving credit where credit is due for once, and concentrate on things that really matter, like the games?
bustamove  +   1344d ago
No one cares about games these days. I don't know why this is surprising either. The U.S *is* the 360's strongest territory after all.
jambabie69  +   1344d ago
hmmmm
and you *are* *ultimolu* i would say welcome back juuken/ultimolu, but you never left!
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FlyGuyHung  +   1344d ago
Shocked the 360 is selling so well. Im getting one for Reach.
table  +   1344d ago
I'm getting one for fifa and another for call of duty.
Silly gameAr  +   1344d ago
Wow. These comments are insane. New model=sales. Price drop on older models=more sales. People are acting like this is the end of all other consoles because 360 sold like it was supposed too.

If 360 didn't sale, something would have seriously been wrong. Hope it keeps up.
silvacrest  +   1344d ago
for someone trying to be neutral
this is good for MS but to be expected, a new model was just released, the US is where the 360 sells best, the console is dirt cheap and has been for some time now while the PS3 is kinda expensive in comparison, i cant comment on the wii
Counter Strike  +   1344d ago
360 Holiday Season for 2010
Reach
Fable 3
Black Ops
Kinect

Next Year :

Gears of War 3
KingDoms
Forza MotorSport 4
Modern Warfare 3
Cod spin Off.
More Kinect Games

360 will continue the dominace in the U.S and Americas!
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52pickup  +   1344d ago
What dominance?
Oh the Wii you mean?

The only shoulder tapping MS will be doing next year will be Kevin Butler to say welcome to 3rd place.
Jazz4108  +   1343d ago
Kevin Buthead will be crying for his mommy by next year so I would not worry about him or it being available.
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madkrazygames  +   1344d ago
I will never understand why the 360 fans gloat about sales. I just can't fathom it. Sigh.... I'm done with this fucking site.
dazzalfc  +   1344d ago
Agreed......
.....although in general i don't see the point in anyone gloating about sales.

Does it make my purchase a more enjoyable one? No
Does it mean the console i bought is teh greatest ever? No
Does it mean all of a sudden each game thats out on it is the greatest? No
Will it all of sudden make my games better? No
Will i become a great gamer because one sells better than the other? No

I really don't get it. I don't get the arguing about it, i don't get the immature crap thats constantly spewed on here about it, all the companies care about is the profit margins...i mean, seriously, its become less about the experiences of the games and more about how A is better than B because its sold better.

Its depressing more than anything
XactGamer  +   1344d ago
If it were the other way around you would be gloating in fact every time Japan numbers come out PS3 fanboys do gloat. Sales numbers to fanboys are like a high score on a game, no fanboy wants to be last.
mrcash  +   1344d ago
it goes both ways, when the ps takes the lead in the us for a few months the ps3 fanatics do the same. don't worry to much about it. it's kinda fun to watch them go at it. I'm not sure why you would click on this article if you don't like to see them "fight"
Counter Strike  +   1344d ago
Sony fanboys rage. haha
August and September could be even more huge with Slim Arcade and Reach.
jambabie69  +   1344d ago
yea dude
nice pic btw lol. the reason some on here think the "xbots" only come out on npd day is because every sony article we have heard how-

ps3 price drop will kill the 360
god of war 3 will kill the 360
killzone 2 will kill the 360
and so on and so on. they think that n4g is the world some how. they really think that their "predictions" more like ignorant fanboyism is how the REAL WORLD is.

so when npd comes out and slaps them in the face that 360 ISN'T DEAD they get all butthurt, and go into rage/defense mode.

i really can't think of one time the sony fanboys on n4g have actually been "right" about anything. then you have those on here who do speak reasonably and try to stay pretty spot on/reasonable about things but get banned, de-bubbled because if those things aren't saying "oh god sony the all mighty" then this is what happens to them.

good month for ps3 and 360 i say, but i will say it is nice to see once again THE SONY FANBOY CAMP ON N4G FAILED. maybe just maybe sony fanboys of n4g- people LIKE THE XBOX 360, the games, and the online sevice it offers. just a guess :)

that last part wasn't to you by the way- just ending my rant :)

time to earn some more trophies :) have a good one.

to the sony fanboys- dry ya eyes, it's ok. take some meds and go to bed, and take another fail with atleast a little CLASS
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Jazz4108  +   1343d ago
Easy way to get your mind off this would be too go download some firmware. That should keep you busy the rest of the day.
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Counter Strike  +   1344d ago
!for someone trying to be neutral
this is good for MS but to be expected, a new model was just released, the US is where the 360 sells best, the console is dirt cheap and has been for some time now while the PS3 is kinda expensive in comparison, i cant comment on the wii "

Sorry kid both were selling at 299$ in the US this month!
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