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Submitted by darkride66 1472d ago | opinion piece

Faked Gran Turismo 5 video on Kotaku?

Earlier today, the popular game blog, Kotaku, ruffled the feathers of racing fans anticipating Sony’s launch of the latest iteration of the best selling racing simulation Gran Turismo 5 for the Playstation 3 console. The video appears to show exorbitantly long load times while the game loads a specific track.

Kotaku titled the video “Video Shows Gran Turismo 5 Has Painfully Slow Load Times” and goes on to comment “With a couple months left and GT developer Polyphony Digital still hard at work, there is hope that these horribly long load times can be significantly reduced. ”

However, eagle eyed visitors to the site have noticed a few peculiarities in the video. The most obvious is the slo-mo speeds that reflections of visitors at the event appear to be moving at during certain points in the video. The second is previous footage of the same level loading that show a dramatic difference in loading time. (Dev, Gran Turismo 5, PS3)

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LtSkittles  +   1472d ago
http://kotaku.com/5608849/v...

Posted by Brian Ashcraft.

Lmao this guy is a fanboy.

Watch the bonus round from E3.

Oh wait that Crecente but still.
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Hyrius  +   1472d ago
Loltaku.
Baka-akaB  +   1472d ago
or Trolltaku
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OneSneakyMofo  +   1472d ago
Butthurtku.
Why o why  +   1472d ago
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fishd  +   1472d ago
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY SH!T!!!11
Kotaku actually slowed down a GT5 video and then wrote an article based on it and complained about the long loading time?!

Are you fukcing sh1tting me?!!!

What the hell,I mean WHAT THE HELL MAN

^^My first comment about this 'incident'
BannedForNineYears  +   1472d ago
Noobtaku.
rekonizakilla  +   1472d ago
hang on iv'e got one.
Kuntaku?
KiRBY3000  +   1472d ago
Pootaku
rroded  +   1472d ago
the refered site is french
n i dont see the original vid posted anywheres (Im french btw) did a quick brows thru the forums even still nada. Sites a gt fans paradise seriously guys are hardcore n love the game doubt the kotuki vid came from em doctored.

if we can find the original undoctored it prove em ta be scum well beyond a resonable doubt. that is if the video even exist on the site

yways have a look if your inclined use a translator if ya need 2 :)
Shadow Flare  +   1472d ago
Bollockstaku
SilentNegotiator  +   1472d ago
I say this is plenty of reason to ban Kotaku from N4G.
Pitiful site.
zeeshan810  +   1472d ago
or Fantaku.
Biggunz  +   1472d ago
craptaku should be SUED!
rockleex  +   1472d ago
What are you guys talking about?
Lag exists in the real world too, you know?

Those people walking around that start to slow down all of a sudden are just suffering from bad internet connections with The Matrix.

Oh, btw. I am Neo.

PS: Sony could and SHOULD sue Kotaku for libel.
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sikbeta  +   1472d ago
tooltaku

Their lame a$$ attempt to downplay this Masterpiece didn't work out, sorry, gamers know about the Quality of the GT series, and GT5 will not be the exception, try harder tooltaku

GT5 FTW!!!
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Foliage  +   1472d ago
Everyone who was foolish to sign up for a Kotaku account should spam their articles with links to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Heck, post it on every site you read. These guys are obvious morons. To think, there are probably still xbox fanatics who still think sites like Kotaku aren't out to smear the PS3.... riiight.

Their users are as delusional as those found on Destructoid or vgchartz. The triple jokes of the internet.
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FURY__UNLEASHED  +   1472d ago
Xbotaku
Will people FINALLY stop taking Kotaku as a legit website now? I mean, how many biased, shitty articles do they need to put out before people realize they're utter fanboy shit?
LeonhartX  +   1472d ago
biastaku
HSx9  +   1472d ago
read the annotations, the guy said the video was slowed down.
Game13a13y  +   1472d ago
Where's MS d*ck? i wanna suck on it hard taku
darkride66  +   1472d ago
I did find it a bit suspicious.
I don't know if the video is legitimately slowed down or it's just a disk with a smudge on it, but watch the two videos. One loads in about 25 seconds, Kotaku's link shows something over a minute - and the video is nowhere to be seen on the site that Kotaku claims to have got the video from.

Then watch Kotaku run with the bad news. Oh, it's painfully slow. Let's hope these horrible load times will improve before release. GTFO.
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morganfell  +   1472d ago
Run the two videos together and watch how much faster the text scrolls on the top of the screen on the bottom video.

Several of us have warned people about Kotaku who have hated Sony since the Home incident. Call it a ridiculous conspiracy theory if you like but facts are stubborn things. The video is doctored.

EDIT: Disagrees from blind people. I guess these morons also think that light travels that slow as well.

Look at those slow motion camera flashes.

Not only is the video doctored but it was doctored by imbeciles and then posted up on Kotaku by an absolute idiot. This type of jackassery should get Kotaku blacklisted - something Sony should have followed through on years ago.
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Parapraxis  +   1472d ago
All anybody needs to do is watch the in-game clock.
...try comparing it to the real-time playback time.

The vid is almost running at half speed.
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cgoodno  +   1472d ago
***hated Sony since the Home incident.***

Home incident?
morganfell  +   1472d ago
Before Home was announced Kotaku discovered evidence of Home's existence. Sony asked Kotaku not to release the story because Sony had a large presser planned with a great deal of money committed. Kotaku said no, "It's news and the people have a right to know."

Sony threatened at that point to blacklist Kotaku even sending a letter. Kotaku responded angrily. In the end Sony did not follow through...but Kotaku never forgot this. They have taken every opportunity to downplay Sony positive news and play up any hint of negativity about Sony products.

Kotaku is an site run by a blithering idiot. Had they simply complied Sony would have made the world their oyster. It's amazing jerkwads like Crecente have been in his job as long as he has yet does not possess the slightest inkling of how business relations actually function.
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pixelsword  +   1472d ago
@ darkride66

:D
blackbeld  +   1472d ago
@Morganfell.

Very nice. I couldn't say it better. After Home incident they really start to be more like 360fanboys. Thnx for the update! Bubbles+ for you mate.
ThanatosDMC  +   1472d ago
They've been pro 360 even before the Home incident and they bashed the hell out of the PS3 for a long time and not to mention most of the people that frequent their site are pro 360 gamers.
e-ray  +   1472d ago
lol @ "a bit suspicious"
the guys in the reflection are walking around like zombies without a lead on brains.

BRAIIINNNSSS
kerrak  +   1472d ago
Credibility?
After a long time here at n4g, i am very used to read very quickly the news. I just needed something like 3 sec reading the news title and with just "gt5" "painfully" and "horribly" my brain quickly responded "fanboy" "bias" and "false".

I suppose it's the same for the majority of you.

It's been a long time since Kotaku lost their last inch of credibility. Now with this incident they are a laughable source.
DJnal05  +   1472d ago
well said bro
i will never believe kotaku again!!
morganfell   1472d ago | Trolling | show
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nickjkl  +   1472d ago
so does this mean kotaku lost all or most of its credibility as a video game website
Mmmkay  +   1472d ago
no. that was a long time ago...
gypsygib  +   1472d ago
To me it has, I used to like them but it's obvious there ps3 haters.
CrippleH  +   1472d ago
They never had credibility in the first place.
Elwenil  +   1472d ago
::sniff sniff::
Smell that? Smells like credibility burning...
bustamove  +   1472d ago
Better yet, Failtaku.

What better way to stir up flamebait than to post a fake video?
rroded  +   1472d ago
kotaku has always been fanboyish
n certainly not above posting fud to generate flamebait hits

kinda like a destructoid light...
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OneSneakyMofo  +   1472d ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Kotaku is a joke and a wanna-be. Look at what happened to their brother website Gizmodo with the iPhone 4 incident. Pathetic.
cliffbo  +   1472d ago
so what are you saying, he speeded up one of the videos, Skittles? does it matter if he's a fanboy? can't you use your own eyes?

edit: sorry i misunderstood lol.
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PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt  +   1472d ago
hope hes reading this... you are a Qu33r.. get a life how old are yu and yur a huge fanboy... just by looking at yu Brian Ashcraft yu look soo ****. =)
PS3 in hope sumone takes a sh*t on yur face
1942  +   1472d ago
funny how the 360 fanboys were so vocal in the other article but are no where to be found now. i guess the trolls are going to stay hidden in their caves after this embarrassment. :)
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SnuggleBandit  +   1472d ago
hit me baby one more time!
davekaos  +   1472d ago
Shakes head in shame
Why would a journalist with so called credability go to all that trouble to make a game look bad.
Thats just weak man.
Kotaku you need to STFU with all your BS
tinybigman  +   1472d ago
kotaku
getting called out. i see there's another article doing the same on the front page.

wow kotaku sure played themselves with that video. i just watched both and the vid on the bottom shows the actual load time. shame on you kotaku, a site ran by 2 big douche bags.
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fossilfern  +   1472d ago
you know what i hope that guy from kotaku is on the bonus round on GT and i hope to god they mention it id like to see the prick get his way out of it
-Ikon-  +   1472d ago
FUK-TAKU

Can I get an AMEN!!
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avengers1978  +   1472d ago
anyone watch G4TV a little show called x-play just showed real footage of GT5 and it was amazing... and I'm not even intrested in buying this game, but it still looked better than anything I've seen.
solidjun5  +   1472d ago
irresponsibilitaku
Nike  +   1472d ago
You can look at the video itself (not just the TV of GT5) and see that the frame rate is stuttering. And this happens when you take a, say, 25 fps PAL video and cut it's speed to perhaps 30% of the original (what this essentially does is makes the video longer, spreading a lesser number of frames over a longer duration).

It could also be a problem with the camera used, which seems more likely but Kotaku really should have known better than to run with an off-screen recording for making such an allegation.
DasBunker  +   1472d ago
lol it would be funny if it indeed was a fake video.. wouldnt doubt it from kocktaku
PirateThom  +   1472d ago
Not "fake" but they slowed it down to make the loading time seem really high.
CYBERSNAKE  +   1472d ago
Really long.

'...make the loading time seem really LONG'
not high.

Get it now?
There we go, that's it for today's lesson boys, I'll see you all next week.
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writersblock  +   1472d ago
Grammar Nazi's
UNITE
greatjimbo78  +   1472d ago
@CYBERSNAKE
You need to learn the term 'context' before you try and correct somebody next time.
PirateThom  +   1472d ago
Nope, "high" is right (not saying "long" isn't, but "high" makes more sense in this case).

I'm not talking about the "loading" but the "loading time".

"Loading" isn't quantifiable, so it would be correct to point out that the "loading seems really long".

"Loading time" is quantifiable, so it's correct to say "loading time seems really high".
ThatCanadianGuy   1472d ago | Immature | show | Replies(2)
DarkSniper  +   1472d ago
This would not be surprising. Kotaku.com has made several strides to undermine PlayStation®3 during it's climb to glory. But Dark Sniper will not shade away from informing users of the truth.

Gran Turismo 5 is the pinnacle of racing games. No other racing franchise (especially Forza) can hold a candle to the stimulating effect that Gran Turismo brings to users. Dark Sniper has his full faith that Polyphony Digital will not only deliver the best racing game this year, but the best racing game ever made.

With this being said, one can take a quick look at Kotaku's doctored footage to know that someone in their headquarters is in cahoots with Microsoft to ensure that Forza's smoke and mirrors is hidden from the naked eye. Anyone who's had a brief assessment with PlayStation®3 hardware should know that several PS3® titles give you the option to install the game to it's versatile hard drive(which is included in every system). Installing titles to your hard drive reduces loading times significantly and for a title with Gran Turismo's magnitude, it's difficult to believe there is no installation process in this particular game.

The telling factor is this. Even if this falsified video was true, the buyer does not care. The leigons of Gran Turismo fanatics across the world has spoken and they have declared Gran Turismo 5 the definitive racing simulation this generation. There's nothing Kotaku or anyone else can do about this.

$niper
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OmarJA-N4G  +   1472d ago
.........................Yeah what he said.

Bubbles.
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SilentNegotiator  +   1472d ago
LOL, you got a "well said" just for agreeing with him.

Hey guys! I agree with him, too! :)
Roozium  +   1472d ago
Yuck. An ignorant fanboy
ThatCanadianGuy  +   1472d ago
That's just your reflection in the mirror.
Baltis  +   1472d ago
Pathetic and sad on so many levels of sadness. These idiots have always been the dimmest candles on the cake, though.
hybridtheory12  +   1472d ago
STFU
This is from your profile, "I hate Halo.I hate Call of Duty - all of them.I hate Gears of War.I hate Killzone 1 and 2 and any one they shoot out of their ass years from now. I hate God of war. The entire trilogy. Not just 3, but it sucked the most.I hate Grantourismo games. They're a waste of time and boring.Oh, look out left turn coming up. I hate Twisted Metal. The entire catalog of them too. I hate Little Big Planet. If I wanted to play dress up I'd buy some Barbie's."

GTFO STEALTH TROLL
DigitalRaptor  +   1472d ago
Baltis,
what exactly do you like? It doesn't sound to me like you're a gamer at all!
ActionBastard  +   1472d ago
Shame on Bashcraft. Real video: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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lucifon  +   1472d ago
Thats still like 45 seconds....not exactly fast.
-Judge_Fudge  +   1472d ago
oh really? its not fast? well id say 45 seconds is faster than most games.
Nitrowolf2  +   1472d ago
you are going to argue with 45 seconds?
fighting games usually take longer to load and they are not as big as GT5,
most games have roughly 45 second of load time, i think UC2 had that much may be longer (the only one which is the continue or loading a save)
i say that is fast, for a game with this much details and for the best looking with most content racing this gen and past has ever had. These load times are good. The question is, is this with an installation or not.

Also this is Cam footage, which explains the Audio lag
and also even this video has slow downs, its Camera footage what do you expect, so even this video makes load time appear slight longer then what they are
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Redempteur  +   1472d ago
woah woah ..please tell me what fighter have 45 second of load times .. because the only one i know is tekken 6 ... ( 25 seconds )

Most of them have 12 sec of load times
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GodHandDee  +   1472d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong but
Isn't this track like 10miles long? :S I would actually say this load time is amazing
Baka-akaB  +   1472d ago
uh wich fighting games do you play with 45sec+ loading times ?

The only times i'd remember that kind of things was on neogeo cd , with the minigames between loads
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Dee_91  +   1472d ago
@lucifon
thats why you cant keep a relationship because you think 45seconds is a long time
ExplosionSauce  +   1472d ago
The Nurburgring
Is a HUGE track!
skip2mylou  +   1472d ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

your gonna complain about a track that is 14.16 mi long while loading up cars, terrain, and spectators
GodHandDee  +   1472d ago
yeah pretty much
trolltaku is pathetic :S
Nitrowolf2  +   1472d ago
also this video has slow down to, just look at the people how they begin to lag
jesus this is taking with a cam not a capture card from devices like a dazzle or PVR, just a standard camera.
so even this video has slow down but due to the camera, when you compare this to kotaku vid, his has way more choppy then this one
ChronoJoe  +   1472d ago
Well, it's loading the longest, and most detailed track in the game. Laps of that track are what, 10minutes long? Usually a standard race would run 1-2 laps on a track of this length.

Gameplay to loading time ratio is 10-20:1. Which is actually pretty amazing. Wipeout for example takes about 10 seconds to load a track, however in contrast a race only lasts about 1minute 30seconds. 9:1 loadingtime:gameplay ratio.

This is loading that track astoundingly fast.
ClownBelt  +   1472d ago
Journalism at its finest.
raztad  +   1472d ago
This is not journalism, this is fanboyism on a website.

To bad for them, the video couldnt be more fake and it was debunked in no time.
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beardpapa  +   1472d ago
^ broken sarcasm meter
writersblock  +   1472d ago
/s
Thats how we fix it
spunnups  +   1472d ago
Game isn't done, end of story. Whether it's true or not I don't care, I'll wait for reviews and a finished product. Honestly, loading times didn't stop me from getting Mod Nation Racers, and if United Front can fix the load times, I'm sure Polyphone can to, they are one of, if not the best in the business. No worries here.
-Judge_Fudge  +   1472d ago
why would anyone do that to such a delicious game...i say this guy should be uppercuted buy chuck norris for his shenanigans
flipposguitar  +   1472d ago
actually...
"Mac: But our shenanigans are cheeky and fun!
Thorny: [referring to Farva] Yeah, and his shenanigans are cruel and tragic.
Foster: [after a pause] Which... makes them not really shenanigans at all.
Mac: [in a silly voice] Evil shenanigans! "
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ranmafandude  +   1472d ago
damn man
why did they stoop so low to try to hurt the ps3 and gt5's image? that's just harsh. it won't matter because one truth prevails above all the lies(detective conan quote lol).
NYC_Gamer  +   1472d ago
that site has never been huge on the ps3 or its games
Nitrowolf2  +   1472d ago
I love how everyone is moving extremly Slow
Kotaku next time examine your slow down video before you post it and try too say that's how it runs
xAlmostPro  +   1472d ago
i know, if they had duplicated the footage.. masked around the logo/loading time and the scrolling text it could have worked(although people will have still seen the other footage eventually) but still.. if your going to go to the extent of faking footage atleast do it well..

so so sad, exploiting well known sites for the biased fanboys they are FTW
CellularDivinization  +   1472d ago
There needs to be an official list of blacklisted sites.
This is unacceptable.
BornToKill   1472d ago | Bad language | show
Raendom  +   1472d ago
If something like this happened to Forza 3 Kotaku wouldn't even consider it news worthy. But because it's sure to rustle some feathers they post it, without CHECKING. Jesus Christ... Asscraft, Totilo and Crecente are being PAID to do this...

Oh and I got a tweet from Official @PlayStation they weren't happy. I hope they don't send Kotaku a review copy.
PirateThom  +   1472d ago
I think Sony should actually black ball Kotaku, they were going to after they leaked Home... nothing of value would be lost if Nintendo, Microsoft and other publishers did the same.
Baka-akaB  +   1472d ago
blacklisting them only help establish them as "martyrs" and rebel in the eyes of their pathetic supporters...

Hell that's exactly because of the "Home affair" that they became even more famous .

Nah just let them rot in their own stench , they still gotta cover the games , and many people actually see the good through their crap and lies .
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raztad  +   1472d ago
Good thinking. I initially supported the idea of blacklisting, but your reasoning is sounding.

What happened today, will prove to be worst for Kotaku than any blacklisting.
iiCryWheniPoo  +   1472d ago
I played Gran Turismo 5 at the Playstation beta rooms event, and it did not have any problems with loading times. I raced on the nurburgring, in 3D, and the loading time must've been under 15 seconds. There was definitely no problem.
Narutone66  +   1472d ago
Good to hear
that. But you sure got a funny name. Make me think of laxative.;)
kasasensei  +   1472d ago
It is pathetic.
BannedForNineYears  +   1472d ago
Rofl, it's so obvious.
If you play the two videos. And get to the part where it's loading.
The bar on top will be waaay slower than the one on the bottom.
xAlmostPro  +   1472d ago
people still trying to hate on the ps3.. why? because lets not lie the 1st year or 2 were BAD so people jumped on the 360 bandwagon and NOW everybody is seeing the power of the ps3, how good its titles actually are and that they were WRONG..

so now theyre even going to the extent to fake footage to hate on the console and its games lol.. pretty sad really
KratosGirI   1472d ago | Trolling | show
KillerPwned  +   1472d ago
How pathetic of a site they have no moral standards as to being a good well written journalistic gaming website.
gamingisnotacrime  +   1472d ago
that is the sad reality in gaming journalism
no set standards, all it takes is an internet connection, keyboard and half a brain for writing, none for thinking
user1337  +   1472d ago
....
actual....real video....

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
gamingisnotacrime  +   1472d ago
in the craptaku video they even added a voice over when is past the half loading time
something like "wow" in terms of beinf too slow.
what a failure
flipposguitar  +   1472d ago
actually someone said that in the real video, the guy actually did say "wow"... but it was when it was done loading and he saw the beauty of GT5!!!

Cant wait for Nov. 2 so i can play it in all its glory!

GT5 GOTY FTW!!!
gypsygib  +   1472d ago
I'm not visiting Failtaku anymore, I do like the Sunday comics but they never pick the best ones anyways.

Spread the word that Kotaku are pathetic fanboys.
BeaArthur  +   1472d ago
If true, shameful.
3dawg  +   1472d ago
lol
yeah i watched it and the dude said it looks good doesnt it or something like that while the shit is still loading. when you watched the real/fixed video, he clearly says that when the game started. wtf?
xAlmostPro  +   1472d ago
its funny.. they havent even taken the blame for uploading it, or made a new artcile saying "it actually doesnt have long loading times".. theyve just added a brief sentence "some people are saying this footage may be slowed, make of it what you will".. losers, professional journalists would have noticed this, its pretty damn obvious
xX-PEIN-Xx  +   1472d ago
This is why I don't follow Kotaku anymore. The worst part is that they realized the video was fake but instead of admitting it, they released an update saying "some readers" noticed a few discrepancies and "to take it as you will." They're pathetic
Toman85   1472d ago | Trolling | show | Replies(1)
gamingisnotacrime  +   1472d ago
Not this time Kotaku!
how stupid are these guys to think no one would notice the choppy framerate. And honestly waiting 1 minute for over 30 minutes of racing in Nuhrinberg, which is a Fking long long Track is not a game braker either. Kotaku just keeps failing by themselves
oghost85  +   1472d ago
I knew they were SHADY!
I'm glad they got caught. I wonder how many credible web sites are guilty of this we need some people to investigate the investigators! For the love of games BE HONEST!!
gon-freaks  +   1472d ago
wow kotaku.
kotaku reached in the new level of dishonesty.
PLAYstar  +   1472d ago
Just some of the worst wannabe journalist. Been bashing the PS3 even before its existence, and can't admit the hard fact the PS3 is superior, making them resulting in a state of this endless lowlife brainless idiocy. The communist there can't speak any better too, bunch of sarcastic hypocrites muppet following dummies like Kotaku that act like pros which actually know nothing about gaming, just shows that the world live a stupidity beyond stupidities.
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