After reporting the news about PS3 RSX speeds earlier, theinquirer.net has dug up even more dirt on the PS3 hardware. The Cell is hurting, badly'...according to their latest article.
Microsoft mustve seen this comin, and of course they'd let sony go right ahead and humor itself by using a cripped processor, lol
Notice what type of news this is filed under: "PlayStation 3 | Rumors" That's right, "RUMORS." Now I am not saying that this is untrue, I am just saying that this is not fact. Also, it has been known that the Inquirer has a bias against Sony and many of the things that it posts have been proven untrue in the past. When someone gives me another source, then I might believe it.
You're right, is it a rumor and may come out to be false... the PS3 may be the messiah of videogames for all we know. But, to be honest, I hope it flops real hard. Sony deserves to fail after the dirty tricks they've pulled.
Can we please just stick to facts. How could Microsoft know or foresee this if its not even a fact. Personally I don't trust the inquirer.
Rumors go along way sometimes. However I am patient enough to wait till the smoke clears. Stop the brushfire wars :X !
This entire article also leaves out the information about data transfer rates of the main bus, if it is capable of handling the load, then there is no problem, and then they have taken a step that many at several universities have already said true, which is the the current configuration of CPU's is not the most efficient, and that our current models of computing our outdated. So thank you for tell me all of this technical data Inquirer, and then tell me that the main bus cannot handle the load, and then don't tell me the specs of the main bus, this is bad journalism.
Everyone, including the Inquirer, is taking the slides out of context. The slides are about the RSX and the "local memory" is the video memory for RSX. Things a bit more clear? This would explain why RSX has a 22.4GB/s read/write on the "local memory" because it is the video memory. This would also explain why Cell has such a slow read from the video memory (important to note that the Cell write speed is actually pretty good, adding to the fact that Cell can help with some graphics). For all general graphical and video game purposes the Cell does not need to read from the video memory because everything in the video memory is rendered through RSX. However, in case someone does want to read from the video memory for Cell, the slides go on to say that it is faster to read the video memory using RSX and then write that to the main memory for Cell to read. The Inquirer does not know what they're talking about. End of story. Everyone go research a bit.
Sony better launch the PS3 november are they will be in alot of trouble.
I call BS on this one
I told all of you PS3 fanboyz that this was gonna happen!! Sony lies to you all and you still stick by their side(duh, dumb!) You all are gonna pay $600 for a overhyped console to play BLU-RAY movies that are gonna lose to HD-DVD anyways!!! Also, count on the PS3 being delayed again!! I told you all that the team that made the cell was fired because of this same report 5 months ago! The cell overheats at 3.2 ghz so they tried 2.4 ghz and guess what happened? It still overheated! Also, the rsx isn`t as powerful as the xbox 360`s gpu either!! I told you!! Sony has a proven track record of over-stating the specs of their consoles and then underdelivering!! That`s why ASSASSIN`S CREED was running on a XBOX 360 at E3 06 under a sheet! I STAND BY MY STATEMENTS THAT THE PS3 WON`T LAUNCH IN NOVEMBER, IT WON`T HAVE ANY GOOD GAMES AT LAUNCH EXCEPT FOR MAYBE 1 OR 2, AND IT WON`T LAUNCH TIL SPRING 07! WATCH AND SEE PS3 FOOLS HAHAHAHAHA!
you are a fool, because you have no logic. if you say it overheats, than its logical that the cell is powerfuller than the xenon, because it was always so. but the cell was developed in such way that it does not need many powersupply, so it wont everheat. the reason they used 2.4Ghz was not the overheating reason. this rumors are all from xrats, and such fools like you believe it without thinking about it. and sorry, assasin creed will not come to xcrapbox, keep on dreaming xrats, you are so weird.
let's wait and see.
did you just say "powerfuller"? OMFG!!!!!!!! go tell your mommy what you said so she can slap you in the MOUTH! also you said that if one processor overheats and another doesnt, the overheating one is more powerful? damn child, get your @SS on the bus and GO TO SCHOOL!!!
so im guessing you guys own a blu-ray player already and watch some movies on it, but how is that so if it not out yet, I think HD-DVD is going to come out on top because its going to be mainstream, either way, neither of these 2 formats are going to catch on til years later, only for us movie buffs and gamers.
Assasins Creed IS coming out for 360, its just a time exclusive, HAHA OWNED!!!
I'm no tech, and I don't know squat about technical specs, but I'm wondering why this is being labelled a rumour when he's showing slideshow pics from a Sony developer conference?
Basically they are going through a number of problems right now the only thing a bit off in the article is the fact that they label the cell "broken" No way is it broken, but is it currently having alot of problems? Yes... it most definetly is. Again this isn't bs folks its all true and its extremely bad news for the ps3.
oh, yes you are god, and you know that its true (this is ironic, if i wouldnt mention this you would believe it). only such believer lemmings like you believe such crap invented by xrats.
comment is for 6.1 sorry
i need not go to school, i am at a university. what i wantet to say (with my bad english) is that the new cpu generate more heat because they need more power supply due to higher count of transistors.
STFU kid!!!, PS3 melts and it crashes after little use, at least it did. It had sub-par coolent technoligy there's too much under the hood. And the thing will not work right, they need to cut back on all that useless crap like Blu-ray ect. Can't wait to tell REDMOND BOYZZ, he'll explain it to you're little ass in detail.
People still read the article and I have to say any bad news against the PS3 is going to be very damaging. No matter where the news came from.
slashdot seems to have some intelligent discussion on this. Some programmers said from what they've seen of this "story" is the design is perfectly normal for 3D hardware. Guess we won't know until someone in the know can give us more info.
Yeah, good to read the Slashdot comments.
first it was stupid rumours like ps3 hardware this and that and yet the baby was playing live games at E3 Wanna see the cell in that conference ?get this http://rapidshare.de/files/...
do you honestly believe that because a demo version of a game or a pre-rendered scene can be displayed on a dev-kit at E3 that it has any bearing on the real-world performance of the EventualStation? The thing may have bugs that the developeres know full well about and intentuionally did NOT show at E3 - I mean why would you unless you wanted to fail massively? The fact is that NOTHING was at E3 on a fully functional and final production model PS3 because they still haven't made any yet! There may be a few proto-types out there and there are surely any number fo dev-stations in circulation as well, but production model PS3's still do not exist. Ok, so that "eventualstation" was a bit cl;ose to the fanboy line (really over it I guess, but I was weak and couldn't resist); but seriously, until I can walk into a store and see a display unit running a real PS3, that I can buy, I am not believing any of the hype either way any more. It is just time for Sony to put up the goods already. It is disturbing though to hear rumors of Cell performance problems (and earlier problems with yield per silicon wafer) this close to the time Sony needs to be ramping up production if they want to have 4 million consoles available at launch. That is just plain math. November 17th is 22 weeks away. Figure that the last 2 weeks will be spent on packaging and distribution for the worldwide launch window and that leaves about 20 weeks from today for the launch units to be made and delivered to the stores worldwide for sale. 4,000,000 units divided by 20 weeks is 200,000 units a week needed from production. Now, unless I am grossly mis-informed, there are currently 0 units a week being made in any factory. Every single week that trend persists (hell, every DAY) makes it harder and harder to believe that anything close to 4,000,000 PS3's will be available at launch and certainly not by the end of the year either. Let's say I am wrong (a distinct possibility) and Sony only wants to crank out those 4,000,000 units by the end of 2006. That would give them an extra 6 weeks and the need to produce 153,000 units a week to meet that goal. Of course, that is assuming that they have already made 21,857 units today to stay on track for the full 26 weeks until the end of the year.... Bottom line, unless these "issues" and "problems" all just disappear, there is no way to expect anything other than a horrid shortage of PS3's until well into 2007. And if anyone really believes the first crop of units made will have a zero-defect yield, then I want to start selling you real estate very soon...
Sony products tend to always break down. So what happenes if little timmys faulty PS3 breaks down? does that mean he'll have to purchase all his downloaded games ect. all over again. What a dumb design.
I keep wondering if the PS3 will be delayed in November... when I see rumors like this it really gets me worried... if sony get delayed, poor performance or bad chips they will be over as a company. and, hey, sony execs. TIME FOR SOME DAMAGE CONTROL! god damn, you guys don't know how bad things are looking for you in the gaming community! how about an offical sony response to this article??
why should sony answer on xrats lies ??? its obviously that this is invented by xrats. man, look at the picture and you will notice its maken with photoshop.
Whats a Xrat?....
um achira, Sony need to answer people like me (gamers, not xbugs) about why their hardware is delayed, overpriced, forcing a unproved unsupported format on people, had malfunctioning development kits, lies about the final specs, games running on 360's at E3, stealing from other hardware makers for controller design, various ON RECORD pissed off developers... ect. The list goes on... And as creep towards november we see/hear... Nothing! Though no comment is better than more lies!
its a real picture, wat it shows is true, theres no evidence that it was photoshopped. YOU THINK THAT ALL BAD NEWS ABOUT SONY IS FALSE, AND THAT ALL BAD NEWS ABOUT MICROSOFT IS TRUE!!! most of the time, you're WRONG, cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
you wrote: Sony need to answer people like me (gamers, not xbugs) about why their hardware is delayed, overpriced, forcing a unproved unsupported format on people, had malfunctioning development kits, lies about the final specs, games running on 360's at E3, stealing from other hardware makers for controller design, various ON RECORD pissed off developers... ect. The list goes on... I dont know if you actually read the damn article but its says clearly that this information is rumors. Why should sony be forced to to answer to rumors? I believe that any negative information about the PS3 becomes facts these days, or at least that seems to be the trend with this site. All I see on every "so called" negative info. is "sony lies" "delaystation" ect. ect. ect. Come on gamers, can we at least get some facts before we start down talking sony. I dont see PS3 fans getting all over the 360 when anything bad is reported. Sometimes I think people hate sony just because they have been so good for so long. I dont even mind the console wars but we can at least show our intellegence by sticking to the facts. I dont expect sony or and company to responed to "rumors" and if what you say is true please PLEASE give us links to support your "facts"
um, the PS3 has been (very) delayed already, hence the 'delaystation' title people keep giving it. Sony have lied about final PS3 hardware specs amongst many other things, hence people calling them liars. And yes, i expect a company like sony to either deny or validate internet rumors over something like a major problem with hardware, because its all over the net and all the tech guys are discussing it. PS3 needs some major PR moves as all I see is more negative press and bad rumors. did you see how fast Microsoft moved to clear up the 'no more backwards compatibility' rumors recently? why can't sony respond to its prospective customers like this? sony don't respect their fans.