M2G Writes: Today I took a trip to London to try out Microsoft’s Kinect and having spend the best part of two hours in a building somewhere in Covent Gardens, I have come back convinced this is the future of motion control.
Glad to see some more positive comments about the device. Looking forward to getting both this and Move. Maybe not day one, but certainly a purchase!
Move Over! Edit: Ok, imo, Move Over! Chillax son, its all in good fun, ha.
I'm good here thanks. Anyway, it's my opinion. Why don't you express yours, rather than shouting virtually at others.
the concept behind Kinect for ordinary people looks like tech from the future. And many non-gamers will want to try. Sony know that and is very affraid... Wii2 will also have Kinect-like tech. i want to try kinect very much...
jumping up & down like a lunatic is the future? ...in the place called a living room as well? riiiiiiiiiiiight I think I've heard it all!!!
Kinect will sell well...just like Wii did. That's why Microsoft is making it. It'll barely work, but it'll be enough to draw a crowd, and that's all that M$ is worried about. They want the money it will bring, not to satisfy a bunch of hardcore gamers.
Maybe, but ATM there are too many things that you can't do with Kinect. The input lag for motion controls kills it for me. If a cramera is the only future for videogames I really don't want any part of it.
please make M$ more money with not just one but as many Kinects as you can. You deserve the best M$ can offer.
I started writing all kinds of qualifications of why I'm not a fanboy but I have deleted them and just gone to the facts. I firmly beleive Kinect will sell more then move which really sadens me just like all the poeple including frinds of mind who kept buying x-boxes to replace their broken ones or pireted ones that got booted from live. They are comited both financially and in their heart. Move get's dubed wii HD how is something that adds a camera like the kinect but keep a controler like wii and makes it beter more accurate then wii and more functional then kinect a wii HD. I mean just the fact that move can detect power by measuring the time it takes to get from a-b not only up and down or left and right but also forward and back adds way more value to me then wii ever did. Anyways that's my two sence. Microsoft just proves over and over again they are in it for the money and not for the consumer and for some reason clients just keep eating it up.
lol @ people cheerleading the few possibilities of this add-on of selling, you don't care about the device or the implementation of motion-controls in gaming, you just want M$ "to win" something I hope PlayStation®Move gets the wii sales, so people will realize how great motion-control can be implemented in gaming and people will take it as an addition rather than a gimmick...
Why would Sony be afraid of tech they've already used and have had access to for 10 years? Nintendo and Sony passed on the tech of Kinect because they know it's highly flawed, and Sony has already had it in the Eyetoy. Sony isn't afraid of anything Kinect related. No one is.
@ CimmerianDrake. 10 years? Eyetoy?? *shakes head* I feel bad for you buddy.
Oh great.. What's this? made2game.com? Never ever heard of it. Looks to me like a blogger living in a cave to even think that this is our future.. M$ sure love cheap bloggers.
***When I later asked if they would be ordering the device they told me “before we attended we had no idea what Kinect was, but now we will be ordering it straight away and also recommending friends do so too.” The grandson? Well he never even got to play. Before our conversation ended I explained PlayStation will also receive a motion device soon and I asked if that is something she would consider, however she told me although her Grandson did have a PS3, she would rather order Kinect as being without a controller is a big draw.*** I know this will come off all fanboy-ish, but reading this all I can think is "BS." It just sounds like utter garbage, honestly. "Oh, I like it because it doesn't have a controller, and I'll be telling all my friends!" Sorry, that just comes off as PR BS to me.
saps n easy money is all im saying... i think we all know the world dont work that way and that kinect certainly has some issues lag being one... im kinda optimistic about them being able to pull off real 1:1 next gen hd gaming with it but until we see it...
You're right it does come of ass fanboyish; you know why? Because it is. While I'm here, since move is not getting as much press, can someone tell me what titles are launching with move. I honestly don't know. Besides the sports game, what else is there. Everytime I hear something about move, it is being retro fitted for games that everyone have already beaten.
http://www.ps3informer.com/... @cgoodo: That doesn't sound fanboyish. The quote doesn't sound authentic at all. But I think that is more attributed to poor writing than it being false. I could see non-gamers loving the idea of not have a controller. As for me, I like buttons because until they can instantaneously read my thoughts buttons are the most efficient why to interact with a videogame.
***You're right it does come of ass fanboyish;*** The mistakes in this, when read all as one, are priceless. ***While I'm here, since move is not getting as much press, can someone tell me what titles are launching with move.*** Yes, I make a comment about two paragraphs in the article and call it PR BS and you take a pock shot at Move. Which one of us is the fanboy again? But, since you asked a question, and yet ended your sentence with a period, here we go: - Ape Escape Fury! Fury! - Flight Control HD - Kung Fu Rider - Sports Champions - Start the Party - TV Superstars - Beat Sketch - The Fight: Lights Out - Brunswick Pro Bowling - John Daly's Prostroke Golf - NBA 2k11 - Planet Minigolf - RUSE - SingStar Dance - The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn's Quest - Under Siege - Zumba Fitness Just FYI, instead of posting actual fanboy comments that aren't relative to the article at hand, you could just look this info up on Wikipedia like I did.
That's because it is.. Microshit PR passed off as news. They do it all the time. Watch, as Toy R Us, Walmart, Best Buy and Amazon have Kinect on clearance just over a month after it releases. Next year, Microshit will quietly faze out Kinect and move on to other things.
How the heck are made2game.com? Seriously every person and their freaking grandma has a gaming site now.
i dont how they are, why don't you ask them.... i jk. anyways i think kinect will sell, mainly because its a gimmick, just like the wii was before it
Sell through the roof, in a big way!
this is the next hd-dvd
And MOVE could be the next Betamax
I might buy kinect if it actually worked but as of now it doesnt. It has already been confirmed by several gaming news sites and even a few 360 sites that kinect doesnt work. If kinect actually worked the microsoft wouldntve staged E3. That is just a sign that microsoft has no faith in their product whatsoever. Will it sell? yes but thats because the general consumer public is stupid and doesnt see behind all of microsofts smoke and mirrors.
Ok think about this, every article written that states kinect works and has hardly any lag was in a controlled environment where microsoft can attribute for every factor, however all of these videos clearly showing kinect doing poorly have been in the real world under real conditions... So all this article tells me is that under the best conditions with plenty of care for how everything is set up kinect works ok, under real world conditions with alot of unpredictable elements kinect lags and doesnt do well at all.. There's going to be alot of dissapointed consumers this christmas...
etownone 9h ago "And MOVE could be the next Betamax" Sadly you may be right, and yet MOVE shares the attributes with Betamax of being better than it's nearest rivals, widely praised and used in the industry, and long-lasting. Luckily it doesn't share the trait of 'late to market'. That's why Blu-Ray launched as an unfinished spec, Sony were sick of having the better format and being out of the running before leaving the gate.
is not for me. so i'll just save my $150 and use that on 2-3 great games i want.
Why would you be so image conscious while playing a game in your own home?
Putting in 7hrs for work mon-fri, plus 2hrs of travel time to and from. Why would I want to look like an idiot playing my games when I just want to relax after a long day of work?
Are you serious, you look more like a fool on N4G after making a weak rebuttal like that. Did you see the guy playing "The Fight" yesterday, did he not look kinda stupid. And his onscreen avatar look even more dumb. Don't believe, look at the video. Just look at the gamer, now does he look like he is fighting or rock climbing? http://www.youtube.com/watc...
people look like fools playing the wii, but over 70 million people still do it.
You are on some different shit. You didn't counter his argument at all. Who said he would rather play Move? All you are trying to do is divert the fact that someone doesn't like the idea of Kinect by saying that Move would do the same thing. Your exactly right that fighting game looks like crap and makes to look like a fool. But Socom doesn't, neither does LBP2. Hell, that sorcery games actually looked kind of cool. To me Kinect seems pretty lame, but you seem to be enamored with it. And thats cool, I hope you have a ton of fun with it, but don't expect everyone to share your opinion.
I don't care about The Fight since I don't plan on buying that game. And like I said when I get home I want to relax playing my games. I have a wii and I barely play it and when I do its as lazy as I can. You don't have to agree but that's just me. @remember thx you for that as I never mentioned Move at all. But now that he did mention it I am playing it for Socom, KZ3, Heavy Rain, and Time Crisis(the first time ill buy one of the TC games)
I agree. Why would anyone want to work the whole day and then come home and work even more while playing Kinect. It's not fun at all and just more labor if you ask me. Games are about precision and fun. Kinect features neither of those two aspects.
You are exactly the kind of sucker microsoft loves. Kinect could be huge? don;t make me laugh. too late.
But WHY is it the positive news about Kinect are usually the ones without a video? -End statement
can anyone say DAMAGE CONTROL?
mjolliffe, the number of disagrees you received for that perfectly acceptable comment is pretty ridiculous.
Agreed it looks really fun. I loved the bit he met a mature lady who dropped in to have a look at the device with her daughter and grandson and had a go with it. Kinect looks really promising and is great for all of us as it is encourging more people to play games.
I love lag which is why I will buy Kinect. It will go perfect with Gears of War (now that we know they will again skip using dedicated servers)! thank you MS, you are always making life fun!
'When I later asked if they would be ordering the device they told me “before we attended we had no idea what Kinect was, but now we will be ordering it straight away and also recommending friends do so too.” The grandson? Well he never even got to play. Before our conversation ended I explained PlayStation will also receive a motion device soon and I asked if that is something she would consider, however she told me although her Grandson did have a PS3, she would rather order Kinect as being without a controller is a big draw.' oh look, the woman said exactly what was needed to be said! lol
The woman probably wasn't told how much Kinect and Move were gonna cost though.. I'll bet you any money that if she was told that Kinect will cost $150, she would give the dude the finger and walk away.
Do people understand you must also have a Xbox to use the Kinect?
the woman probably has not played move yet, or she was not told how much it would set her back.
"...most of whom hadn’t seen the device before but had been converted almost immediately after playing it." Kinect will be huge, no doubt, its something causals have never seen before(since they wouldn't have an eyetoy) and something which is has over Move are its games are FUN and EASY to use, something which made the Wii so big.
The difference between kinect is huge one of the main reasons is..nobody actually likes eyetoy.
ore like..."What is an eyetoy?" And sony fanboys will tell you to go look at youtube videos from years ago like its advertisement for the failed sony device.
failed device lol good one, typical comment from a typical fanboy
@Arc Source please? I'm seeing 4 Million on VG Chartz. I know that you guys hate VG Chartz but a 6 millions unit difference is pretty large. Not to mention that sales =/= quality, right?
http://www.gamasutra.com/ph... theres your proof. Never,NEVER, EVER TRUST VGCHARTZ. that is all for now... and yes, sales does not equal quality like the eyetoy. Does kinect have quality software, or hardware that works? dont think so, at least right now... Kinect only has software that we played years ago, based on a cam that i bought years ago for the PS2.
fair enough I'm still not going to predict the future success of an unreleased product based on a a lack of launch titles. I've seen enough demos to tell that the "lack of quality hardware" is on par with the lack of precision and presence of lag shown by Wii when it launched. Look how successful that turned out.
compared to what, 140 million ps2s sold? I would consider eyetoy an underachiever.
I wasnt aware that software for the PS2 was built using a stereo camera setup
what we seein with kinectic have never been seen b4 this technology. its gonna change everything on the face of the earth as we know it. we dont need core games 4 it i got halo n gears n multiplats 4 dat. i take the wii sports even tho we played them out 4 it b4. no matter if its old or not if MS doin it its new i could name 10 thing they did new this gen but imma tell yall another time (gotta search hard for them). MS THE GREATEST. "Bill tell me when your gonna nutt"
Would that imply that 99% of all the Playstation 2 titles released were underachievers?
@osu gamer Seriously your going to use the sales dont equal quality argument whenever you and your band of brothers use sales of halo and gears as the major dig at the ps3? Dude your argument got blasted, suck up your pride and move along. You dont have to win every discussion.. @kissmeimgreek LOL pathetic.. Show me any other add on peripherial that has broken 10 million units sold then we'll talk. @webeblazing Never seen b4? Do you know anything about the eyetoy or the ps eye? Didnt think so, both of those devices have utilized every technique that kinect uses. Speaker for voice input, full visual motion detection, gestured based navigation and voice commands.. I hate how you arm chair experts jump on the internet and act like you know what you are talking about...
moparful99, Wii fit, Motion plus, Wii wheel. I am not saying 10million for eyetoy is bad. Just that its not as impossible as you are trying to imply.
I give you Wiifit but where's the proof for motion plus and wheel? Is there a link to back you up? Otherwize your comment is pointless.
The steering wheel was packaged with mario kart so it was guaranteed success.. Btw how many racing games are on the wii? If not for mario kart it would have bombed.. Wii fit is one of those things I cant explain, it's alot like rockband selling millions to be played with for a few months and then it just sits unused.. Wii motion plus is obvious because the core motion sensing of the wii is horrible so nintendo made alot of money by gimping the motion controls and then selling an add on which should have been there since the begining...
like zomg! microsoft is making a cell phone with a camera in it.. omgz! AAA RIGHT?!/s
The only reason the games are FUN and EASY is because they are all casual games!!! Nothing Hardcore, and personally I hate easy games unless they have something worth playing them for
I don't mind easy games. They're a nice change of pace.
I don't mind easy games either. But I won't be paying $50 or $60 for Paper Toss. And I won't be paying $150 for a device that allows me to play Paper Toss.
I was referring to easy games in general, not Kinect games. I was thinking more along the lines of LEGO games and Mario. Or something light hearted like Professor Layton.
Games that don't work AREN'T FUN!!! I understand MS is trying to outstupid Nintendo, but the industry isn't drinking the kool-aid that's why MS is banking on no-namers to hype the fail.
NEVER tried the EYE TOY games. This is a marketed and glorified EYE TOY nothing more. So im not buying this crap!! PEACE AND GAMING!!
It is already huge. It's like nearly a foot long.
Pew Pew Pew. lol Need I say more