Find out why Peter reckons "most role playing games are sh*t" in kikizo's new chat with him, and enjoy these rare hands-on impressions of a very early demo of Fable 2.
Gotta agree with him there though, some RPG's are just "sh!t" no questions there, am really waiting to see how well his game turns out. Fable 1 was a success, can history repeat itself ?
Fable 1 was a half assed game, but a huge success... If this is a ......full assed game it should be even better :D
Fable 1 may not have been completely finished, but it was a huge sucess. Hopefully, Fable 2 will follow suit. But, KOTOR was the best RPG I've ever played... by alittle company named Bioware... IMHO, MASS EFFECT will be the King of RPG's on next gen consoles.
Fable was a massive disappointment. Sure, it sold extremely well, but that was only because Peter M hyped the game up to be something it wasn't. As of now, the best RPG franchise in my opinion is the Elder Scrolls series...especially Oblivion which was accessible to mainstream gamers as well as hardcore RPG fans. I don't even think Fable 2 will be as good as PM said Fable 1 would be, but I'm still excited to see what he can do with the next-gen hardware.
Wow I thought I was the only one who hated Fable 1. It was a nice concept, but way too short and all the extra crap was pointless with such a short, easy game. I still like the FF rpgs the most because of story, but this one looks to be great.
ya Peter always over promises and doesn't have the time to finish it or the money, but this is his first title as a MGS developer, so we'll see if the extra resources and time pan out.
"Most rpg's are s**t"? Well as long as he doesn't include: Final Fantasy's, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Vagrant Story, Oblivion, Xenogears, A Bards Tale, Knights of the old Republic and Parasite Eve, I MIGHT agree with him. I hope for his sake his next game is good, as a lot of people (me included) will be remembering his words!
maybe 15% of the RPG market.
Wild Arms, Saga Frontier, "Tales of...", Valkyrie Profile, Rogue Galaxy, Mario RPGs and the first few Suikodens.
Why are you guys mad at someone who is too optimistic about what a game should be, when it was probably hardware limitations that prevented him from created the game he really wanted, besides the game was good don't knock it down just because the creater thinks too much out loud. We need more people like him, people who wont make the same game over and over, you guys as a community are seriously one of the most immature and ignorant group. EVER!
some games suck some games are good not just rpgs. but anyways i liked fable and ill be happy to play fable 2. its great to have multiple system
Not you guys but at Peter. I want him to clarify exactly which ones he is talking about. I have played Final Fantasy X and X-2 and I enjoyed it - FF is a VERY successful franchise. Also played Knights Of The Old Republic 1&2 again 2 superb RPG's however the first one was clearly better. I think Deus Ex falls into the RPG category? I loved it but no way was it Sh*t. Oh and what about the Elder Scrolls series? So I would like to know which RPG's Peter is talking about. He dissapointed many people with Fable 1 not me because I didnt read into the game and what ended up not being there i.e. I wasnt involved in the hype I just saw the game one day and thought oooh lets get that and I loved it.
i really would like to see a full asses one. It must be pretty good. Really the only reason i don't like rpgs is the turn based strategy though kotor kinda helped me like it since i loved the game.
who cares about peter. I want to know when Richard Garriot is going to make an RPG again. For his statement about most RPG's are Sh!t, when was the last time he played any RPGs? Because in the Last 4 or 5 years I have played a lot of great RPGs. Oblivion, Morrowind, DQ8, NWN, Jade Empire, KOTOR, WOW, Guild Wars, Dungeon Siege, Sacred, and of course I have never stopped playing Chrono Trigger. He should change his comment to most RPGs are the sh!t.
I can think of a number of RPGs that was better than Fable. This guy should first keep his promises before he goes off declaring that most RPGs suck. And for the record Fable wasn't even all that great; all it had was great potential. Fable lacked what most RPGs do have and that is a great story-line; if you aren't going to deliver on the one aspect that RPGs are known for then keep your mouth shut.
although I don't agree with much of what he said, I partake of his opinion that most RPGs nowadays are crap. And I include Oblivion in that. The reason why I think so of Oblivion is that except for its vast open-world and pretty graphics, its just a clone of what I've been playing since the 80's. And, honestly, the combat AI, the animals that existed for the sole purpose of attacking you on sight, the Radiant AI, it was a complete crap. I'm not bashing Oblivion or Bethesda, I think they are a very competent bunch and Oblivion is certainly a good game. It simply isn't the hype most people make of it. And most people that praise Oblivion so much haven't been around for most of the time computer RPGs have. To finalize my point, what I want is more stuff like Mass Effect and Fallout 3, and less generic, cloned, lazy titles like Oblivion, Dungeon Siege, Neverwinter Nights, Gothic and such. Everything there has been seen to death, move along please.
Yeah, this will go under the "put up or shut up" file. Fable wasn't good, at all. So I really, really doubt Fable 2 will be any better. I swear people these days talking trash when they shouldn't.
But every RPG of the series mentioned here: "...Final Fantasy's, Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Vagrant Story, Oblivion, Xenogears, A Bards Tale, Knights of the old Republic, Parasite Eve, Elder Scrolls, Wild Arms, Saga Frontier, "Tales of..." series, Valkyrie Profile, Rogue Galaxy, Mario RPGs and the first few Suikodens...." ...easily beats it or ties with it. Molyneux just made an Itagaki out of himself. In fact, they should make a couple.
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