Sony is facing a struggle over its PlayStation 3, with critics concerned about the processor and the price. Jack Schofield reports on the next stage in the console wars
this article seems like a flame war will start not to bad of an article.
is sony fighting a losing battle LOL! the real question is,is MS fighting a loosing battle because if anyone did not notice sony is king in the gaming market MS are pathetic compitition.
Sony is king in selling bad quality hardware indeed, 50% of all their PS2's sold is because of their sh*tty drive With the PSZero it will be the same. A bad quality BR drive. There you go: a 600 dollar brick with no drive at all in the end
the mart just quit it making up your own numbers and sh!t.50% of ps2 did not break down stop hating because sony sold over 103 million ps2 and MS sold a sh!tty 24 million.
MS sold 24 million working consoles. Sony sold 103 million bricks that can't play their games anymore. It's lying overhere in the closet also. Garbage it is
see wtf gametime, just keep your mouth shut. you are a real sony fanboy. wait till november and we can see. jeez
see wtf halo3101, just keep your mouth if you have nothing to say. you are a real ,MS fanboy. wait till november and we can see ps3 destroy xbox 1.5. jeez
Lametime, it's really you in this small movie! This guy is screaming: jjjeeeeeeeeez also all the time! jjejeeeeeezz!!! http://www.pwned.nl
lol gametime, good comeback. you are a fat fanboy. you just can accept the fact ms maybe has a better console. your pathetic. read the artice. there are some pretty good points. yea sony will ship 10 million consoles at launch, beat ms right there and then. lol think a little.
don`t waste ur time ,flaming can`t be stopped.this site is on serious crisis, reading post here is just plain boring
I dont know, watching (reading) those two go at it makes me laugh. I somehow feel better about myself after looking at their posts.
well i agree. but gametime always has to talk crap about the xbox 360. this site is turning to crap.
ahh this is the ps3 section if you dont like it go talk about your true love gears of war in the xbot section.You hjust cant except the fact sony made the better console and you are jealous.
You mean like the PS2 was the *Sony lies on* better console *Sony lies off* but had less power then the XBOX? And the great quality off the hardware? Like the DVD drive that stopped working off 50 million PS2's? Sony hasn't made nothing up to now. Do you even know the spec's of the RSX 3 months before launch? No? That's quit stupid isn't it?
No one even knew what xbox was when ps2 was out so at the time ps2 was the best console dumbass.Stop sreading false rumers jealous fanboy 50 million ps2 did not break down stupidass so quit saying it.
That's quit logical with a new product when PS was the 2nd bad quality product in line. So what's your point? 360 will kick Sony's ars this time. It's hard to hear the truth isn't it? PS2's all bricks the DVD stops working. Bad ass quality one is catching dust in the closet here. They should give them for free with toilet paper
exactly, every thread turns into flame war with the fanboys on both sides. the only interesting thing about it is how many articles there are (not just this site) with valid points about sony. i think most people will make their decision when they can go to best buy and actually play a game, not watch cgi videos on the web. the ps3 trailers that just have cgi video are getting lame, i haven't played gears of war but at least i have seen video of someone actually playing the game, that gets me excited watching the intro video to a game doesn't do much for me.
naw, i wanna see sony's stuff. i like gaming, i am not a fan boy like you
Who really cares? We all just want to play good games right? We can debate which system has the best value for different types of gamers. But who really cares? How many of us had ps2 and xbox? I did. And sure i had more xbox games. But I had some ps2 games too. Sure the graphics were better on the xbox but it didn't stop me from enjoying Gods of War. Sometimes I sit back and I just don't get it. Why does gametime feel like he has to bash the 360 and call it names? There isn't anything Gametime can say to stop the 360 from selling out as it has been and continuing to sell worldwide and at the very least selling more units than the original xbox. Thats a success for MS. Same with the ps3. We can list all of our concerns about blu ray, game developement, ect...but its not going to stop the ps3 from selling. No one knows who will outsell who. It will come down to games. And right now we can say that no game has garnered the hype that Gears of War has. But you never know. Sony, i'm sure has some tricks up their sleave too. But for there first 3 to 4 million consoles they don't need any hyped games. But after the launch window they will need something exciting to draw gamers in.....Its should be fun and interesting. But ask yourself. Do you really care? Get what you want.
dont be concerned about what i say and who the hell are you to lecture me,go type essays to the mart if you want to lecture somebody. and who said i was trying to stop xbox 1.5's sales.there isnt anything xbox fanboys can say to stop ps3 from out selling your true love console well its going to happen whether you believe it or not.
You read that in your crystal ball Lametime? Well I just took a big sh*t last night and when I looked at it gave me: "Sony stinks" And you do also http://www.pwned.nl
that dude does the same thing as gametime and makes 360 unbaised fans look bad. in my opinion both of them are narrow minded idiots dont spare one because he supports ur camp.
i think you can hardly find comments from gametime, in which he flames the xbox360. but your comments and themarts comments are just bashing, every single comment. so stop talking bs, dont complain, if you are far more retarted and moronic.
Haha Achira don't get to far up in Gametimes @rs will ya? He's been away for some time, but all his posts, as ssj or Gametime or PS3willrule and more, were only flaming 360. Only thing he just did was saying xflop 1.5, with your 'sadd' and 'pahatetic' games, we would be 'morrons' or 'morrens' and our house would burn down of overheated consoles. For real. He never gave facts. I do. You are of the same. You never reply on facts. You only yell. The two of you cry like little babies and if you don't like sarcasm you shouldn't read my posts
nice real deal. good post
Here's the deal, when people go into a store to or chose what system to buy before hand there not gonna know of what little things that go on around the PS3. Like the bad rep. of E3 and so on. This is how their gonna think, the majority of people are gonna say wait till price comes down significantly. The original fanboys/buyers will buy one at launch and most likely cause shortages for the next 6 months. Over 2007 when a few killer games come out PS3's will see a boost in sales. But the majority waiting for a price cut won't be able to get one till around mid 2008. Before then the best Sony couuld do is bundle an old launch game or something. Even at Sony's best they could get PS3's price down to 400-500 by end of 2008 or 2009. Now what price is the competition gonna be at. The 360 core for 200, and premium for 300 easily. Wii being at 200 but I don't think the wii is set for long term and the hype is already dying out. Okay if you've followed the PS2 you'd know it only really sold at under 200 bucks and that's where they got their big fanbase. So how is the PS3 gonna do when it's stuck at 400-500 in Q4 2008. You can figure that one out on your own, but the price cut people are waiting for can't compete with the other consoles. Because the majority of people like the games that are multiplatform they'll go to the cheaper console. And sadly people care more about how much money their gonna loose and what performance their gonna get. Their not gonna care about wifi or wireless network, or USBs/Card readers. All their gonna look at is PRICE and performance(games). Now you may think know friends that will definately get a PS3 cause of games or whatever but that minority of launch buyers die out quickly. I really can't see the PS3 selling that well through 2008.
It really does'nt matter what you see.If some could afford a 400$ xbox 1.5 they could afford a 500-600 ps3 so stop with the b!tching its really getting old.
Wow, Gametime... looks like your parents bought you your console and will buy you your very first PS3. Seems like you have no sense of what money is important for. For working students/single parents/hard working parents/ a difference of 2 dollars is quite large. Plus you get your games over 70 dolalrs each. BluRAY doesn't come cheap. It's cool if you can afford both consoles. But don't expect everyone to have the same life style as you. As a student I'm happy to afford a decent meal every once in a while. :D
It's not alone that 200 extra. Which in fact is an extra WiFi controller and 3 extra games for a 360. So for the price of only the PSZero with one controller and NO games you'll get a 360 Premium with 2 controllers and 3 games. And off you go, with the best game of this year Gears of War It's even worse with the PSZero. Console: 600 dollar Games: 79, 89 it might get up to 100 dollar So after you bought it, it gets real expensive. 360 with an extra controller and 3 games, the price of a PSZero: 600 dollar PSZero with an extra controller and 3 games: close to 1.000 dollar That's 400 dollar difference. Sony is not loosing the war It already lost it
Your ignorance an fanboyism is at an all time level.MS has never won a console war and never will.get it throught your tiny xbox fanboy mind.Stop spreading faulse sh!t about ps3 so far the games are 59.99 intil they say otherwise stupidass.ps3 with a extra controller and 3 games only comes up to 800 something dollars which is not alot becasuse there where dumbass fanboys like yourself who piad 2000 for an xbox 1.5 on ebay.
said enough. You're 12 years old and plain dumb. Go watch yourself http://www.pwned.nl
i buy my console jackass.And again stupidass xbox fanboys writing faulse sh!t.since when are ps3 games 70 dollars quit with the bs, STFU and go play your console.
You buy it from what? From your 10 dollar pocketmoney a month you're getting? PSZero games can be 79, 89 or even up to 100 dollar. Sony stated that themselves. Are you even reading news on your expensive videoplayer?
no sony did not say that stop twisting words to make it sound like they said something that they did'nt.Do you have a life,you are here 24/7 YOU ARE LOSER FACE IT!
"I don't think consumers expect software pricing to suddenly double. So, the quick answer is that we want to make it as affordable as possible, knowing that there is a set consumer expectation for what software has cost for the past twelve years. That's kind of the best answer I can give you. So, if it becomes a bit higher than $59, don't ding me, but, again, I don't expect it to be $100.” :) http://www.gamasutra.com/ph...
Lametime you seem frustrated. Is it because with 10 dollars a month you can't afford neither a PSZero nor a 360? Maybe you can get a Wii instead? Ah well PSZero has the same graphics so you could go for it for sure I guess! See the link just provided before me. THey don't expect it to go up right away, but it could be. For sure they won't be 60 dollar. You're about to get your @ss raped again by Barbie Ken
buying a console today is like investment..imagine if i had bought the ps2 for 600 bucks,really its done everything i had to do for me and its still doing it`s job..so why not the ps3 which is a more better console than ps2? it`s not even launched yet and we gettin big games already compared to the ps2...
Stay in school, son.
I never said MS would win, I just said the PS3 is gonna be a harder sell come late 2007 and 2008. Also it's funny how you say MS NEVER won a console war. Tell me how many times has MS been in a console battle. Sony in for 2, Microsoft in for 1. Your hilarious how you can judge the 360 and ps3 using the ps2 and xbox 1. It's dramatically different this time. You knjow the little fact of paying double 300 bucks what you payed last time.
Tell me how many times or consoles did it take for sony to win a console war? whats that 1 time oh i thought so.
rofl, what does that have to do with anything now. Your loyalty is hilarious. If my facts or predictions are wrong say something. But quit acting like a monkey in a poop fight.
Here’s a quick little note... dreamcast can handle the graphics ps2 can handle. Even better. Look that little DOA title on the DC and look at the one on PS2. Yeah DC died long ago. But in its prime... it was a lot better than ps2. :D And what console war you’re talking about? PSP vs DS? It’s a handheld war and sony lost that one. PS2/Xbox/GCN? Nobody won that. Both PS2 and XBOX have sold great amounts. Both systems have fans. Both systems have done exceptionally well. Sony didn’t win the war. :D No one did. This ain't a console war on right now. It's a format war. :D And sony is losing.
LOL do you accually believe the crock of sh!t you just said.
Why not? It's true :) PS2 DOA2 (I think) doesn't stand a graphical chance when compared to the DC DOA2. Hell... even in gameplay DC kicks the ass of PS2. :D Shame it died though. :) Had some great titles.
The fact is ps2 sold over 103 million consoles xbox sold 24 million and gc im not sure but it was lower than xbox.the point is ps3 is the most populkar console and will sell the most dont like it TOO BAD!!
Also I don’t recall gamers picking up old PSX titles. I know lots of people who can pick up their old SNES or Genesis and enjoy a round of two at some old fashioned games. Gunstar heroes? Super Mario Brothers. Streets of Rage. Come on. :D People are still playing DreamCast titles. :D People are still buying DreamCast crap. :) You can’t fail a successful product. But just like the PS3 now… DC incorporated a new format. It came ahead of its time. I think it was a vs PSX system. It was very expensive. And it died due to lack of support. :( Same thing will happen/is happening now to PS3. It’s a great console, but it’s going to fail.
What are you talking about moron blu has all the support everyone is waiting for ps3,there are pyramids of xflop 1.5's in every store,no one is excited about xflop 1.5's hardware scientist and everyone else are excited about ps3 hardware. sounds like xbox 1.5 is failing and they dont even have compitition yet.And blu ray is going to sell at rates only toshiba could dream of.
14 got owned by 14.1 hahahahahaha good one gametime. The Real Deal, you're still a LOSER hahahaha
PS3 is going to win the world by storm just like PSP did. It will sell for the first couple weeks/months and it'll loose its popularity. UMD format has failed. Utterly. Also "on PSP UMD" ads have vanished from TV commercials. UMD shelves are overstocked. No one is interested. PSP has been chipped/pirated like a two dollar whore. No one has a need to buy a PSP game when they can freely download it. PSP has failed. Expensive product. Sony product. Failed. There are stacks of "xflops" because "xflop" is out right now. There are NO stacks of PS3. So taking your logic... that would mean nobody wants to sell a failed console? No one is interested? No one wants to buy it? Why occupy shelf room, why take up floor room with a console no one is willing to buy? PS3 is worthless then? I guess you’re absolutely right on that. While Xbox is being sold right now, PS3 is left out in the basement because no one wants to see it. Is that logic of your correct? Wait for PS3 to come out and then reconsider your idiotic thoughts. Xbox360 is on sale now. PS3 isn't.
xbox 360 is on sale know and is not selling.No one are buying them get it throught your thick xbox fanboy skull.i will not continnue to argue with an ignorant xbox fanboy,all i have to say is i dont want to hear excuses why ps3 is out selling xbox 1.5 if you love your console so much go play the dam thing if you even have one or are you board with the sh!t.
Wait. Since when am I an xbox fanboy? Because I don’t agree with your arrogant ignorance? I don't even own the console! Hahaha. Child, go back to your summer school. You still need to improve your English writing skills. Me an Xbox fanboy. If anything I’m a Playstation fanboy, or a Nintendo fanboy as I’ve played and own both consoles. I’ve never touched an Xbox title. :) Except for Halo which was ported over to the pc. :D
And what you say matters because?............
That's why I sh/*t on all of his posts. I'm hot for him like a malfunctioning 360.
Man I like my alter-ego a lot! You can borrow the picture of my house, you can copy somehow my name. But the PSZero stays the one that will loose the battle. Imagine the 7 so called cores break down one after one...
What do you have invested in this? lol....Seriously? 360 fans win with a next gen console with the games they want to play, for a reasonalbe price. Sony fans win with a next gen console and the games they want to play. Gamers who buy both consoles win with two next gen consoles and All the games they want to play. Gametime....You don't know which console will outsell the other. But you do know you are getting a ps3 right? Well enjoy it when it comes out. And after 2006 is over everyone can brag about who sold the most next gen consoles that year. And at the end of 2007 we can tally up consoles sold and brag again. But its all a matter of choice and preference. MS, SONY, and Nintedo will be around for many years. As long as they are we will all have options that best fit our gaming preference and our price range.
should be asking yourself that same question you DIPSH!T...hahahaha
lol, you know what, bill actually has a good point.
Nothing to fight over anymore... Sony lost already, so what are we talking about?
Nothing to fight over anymore... MS lost already, so what are we talking about?
If you can't handle it anymore, you're doing a copycat move. It doesn't matter man you'll still not buy anything because your pocketmoney is not enough
This console war hasn't even started. Apparently the Next Generation of consoles starts Nov 17.
Well if the war didn't start yet, MS for sure took a great headstart in taking positions with 5 million units sold at the end of June. Forecasts tell 10 million sold when PS3 launches. Games attach rate 4.5 per unit Extra hardware sold, 3 items per unit xbox fanbase just is spending money, seen from the past: attach rate games PS2/Gamecube 1.9, and so on Sony fanbase just spends less. Seen the new exclusives, MS just has the best scoring ones in awards an public opinion. So I guess the war started a bit already, but the opponent is still hiding in it's cave
This guy really doesnt know what hes talking about. I know that people do get nervous before a big event. But jeesh this dude is pathetic. If this guy worries too much he should take a time capsule. I dont want to hear negative things now, because PS3 is armed and ready. Dont be afraid of CHANG3
holy smokes gametimne, those are some amazing comebacks.
gametime ..... Bill Gates ..... The Marte These three are the same person. The timing of their posts. The content and maturity level of their comments. Its probably best not to even respond to this person. Xbox fanboys don't like him and Sony fanboys don't like him. He is an outcast to every side. All his comments show his ignorance.
The Mart..... LandofSand ..... Was a Sony Fan These three are the same person. The timing of their posts. The content and maturity level of their comments. Its probably best not to even respond to this person. Xbox fanboys don't like him and Sony fanboys don't like him. He is an outcast to every side. All his comments show his ignorance.
YOU ARE A FU(KING IDIOT. the mart is a friend of mine, i don't know about sony, and i have only ever posted under THELANDOFSAND. you are a idiot if you believe anything else. my gamertag is THELANDOFSAND. as is my myspace. so yeah, way to sound like a dumbass fanboy starcraft ;)
Slow down, lol why you so pissed off for? James you are too funny, you act like your ready to punch your monitor or something. You need to calm down and be patient, your repaired 360 will be in the mail soon. You honestly need to find a new hobby because it's obvious that this site is going to give you a stroke or heart attack due to massive amounts of stress.