The massive pre-order success of the upcoming PC game Starcraft II shows that PC gaming is still alive and well.
pc gaming has never died only idiots log on forums and type out that non-sense
I'm in almost full agreement with you. If PC gaming were dead, retailers like GamersGate would be out of business.
yep. As if we needed any proof of this common fact. I have been hearing this nonsense for over 15 years...
wow 800k pre-orders at brick and mortar only????? Jeezus christ. I know about 5 of my friends pre-ordered digitally and nobody who got the physical copy.
800k pre-orders in the US only, too.
my video card is only 320mb, I know it's good enough for the game but the recomdended spec for best setting is 512mb videocard. If I want full setting I need to spend around $100. That suck. I guess you'll need to upgrade your video card again for Star Craft 3 or Crissis 3.
i wonder where conloles is at? ...? where ya at buddy?
Right here buddy, PC gaming never was close to being dead and never will be! These preorders don't even count DD which would be even higher!
there you go :)
yea my friends and i notice that around 11:40 there was a line of fat ppl outside of moes. then we realized they were waiting at game spot. it didn't make sense up now
PC Gaming isn't dead, it's never been "close" to dead. You think Wii has captured the casual market? PC has 4 times as many people playing Farmville and random casual Popcap puzzle games.
I mean, I honestly chuckle when I hear "PC gaming is dead" from some console exclusive fanboy.
"Starcraft II proves PC gaming is not dead" Trying to justify PC gaming to morons who think about their consoles like others did back in the day of the earth....that it is the centre of the universe, is wasted effort. I'm more than happy for people to remain ignorant. Their posts fighting over a game running at 720p and 30 frames amuses me. I was running higher than 720p on my PC 10 years ago... I have to say though, the hardware race pisses me off...I bought a gtx480 yesterday and I clearly have a major CPU bottleneck in some games....aka more costs :(. That said, it is a choice and a choice I made but I don't want to play gimped gaming...which is why I chose PC this gen. I owned all 3 last gen. gamecube was the best...yeah I said it. But now here I am on the pinnacle of PC gaming for this year...starcraft 2 released, with no money to buy it after waiting 12 years...I feel like an idiot. Playing games smoothly doesn't count for much when you don't have money for the games.... :( @KingKiff But HHG said Pc's are not capable of the same graphics as console's so it must be true, he is one of the most respected and most highly qualified gaming journalists in the business. /s Lucasarts also said that...and just look at them, pioneers of innovative gaming. /s
It's not that it's dead, it's just that very few games are developed exclusively to really take advantage of the hardware available. Imagine what kind of game could be developed if it was tailored around an hd 5970.
That's true, but it's also true for all platforms. Exclusive games are on the way out. But exclusivity on PC doesn't count for much. Metro2011...a multiplat game, is the best looking game on PC. Just Cause 2, another very good game graphically, supports CUDA features and 32csaa in game. BFBC2, another game that supports DX11 features and 32csaa in game. Crysis 2 and RAGE...Doom 4 will also be a multiplat. It doesn't necessarily effect the quality of the PC version. Farcry 2 not only looked great in DX10 but is also extremely well optimised. They just need to update their development tools and engines then all will be right in the world once more. FC2 is one of only about 5 games that have 128bit HDR EDIT: Regarding Starcft on n64...it was a very good game and played well on N64 too. even split screen was still managable. But starcraft is a relatively simple game in terms of game mechanics. Yes it is the most proffesionally played RTS games...but people play ping pong professionally as well, and as far as gameplay and rules go...that game is very simple, you can apply any degree of skill to the simplest things. I never played supcom on a console, but I imagine it would have been more difficult.
Ill be up and early tomorrow Morning Banging on BESTBUYS door to get myself a copy of the Collectors Edition!
i was just about to say that, pc gaming has never been dead, wtf!
Well here on N4G one would be forgiven for think it died years ago with all the FUD articles saying it is dead. I beat if you search "PC GAMING IS DEAD" up top you would find 100+ articles saying it was dead. all BS though lol Gamers FTW.
PC will never die, because PC have the community of Gamers bigger than PS3 and Xbox 360 Combined.
righttt because every month we see a new pc title getting MASSIVE pre-orders. As for all the pc fanboys in here saying it's not dead as a profitable platform for EVERY developer thou dost protest too much.!
last year when bioshock 1 had sold around 3 million, the devs said that over 1 million copies of bioshock were sold on pc @ RETAIL. Given that more than half of all PC sales are digital, and steam does not give out sales figures. I think it's safe to say it was significantly higher than that. BFBC2 sold more on PC than either PS3 or 360, again....only counting retail figures. I wouldn't be suprised if it sold 2x as much @ digital. There is a reason BF3 is rumoured to be a PC exclusive. Crysis on PC sold 3 million copies...and 99% of PC gamers didn't even have Pc's that could run it within 2 years after release... all of this is in the face of piracy. PC is thriving more than you know...but you don't know much so that's nothing noteworthy. How many copies did UC2 sell again...2.5 million? A PS3 exclusive, funded and created by a sony first party developer....sold less than an unplayable PC exclusive with piracy....yep. All the signs are pointing in favour of your argument....clearly...
Nice to read a comment that actually had a person with a brain (that uses it) type the words... I'm not even bothering to argue anymore why PC gaming isn't dead or dying......... It doesn't matter what reason they come up with this time.
It's not dead, just way less popular than it used to be in comparison to console gaming. If it were dead though, which it's not, the article doesn't really make sense. One successful game on a platform does not mean that platform is alive and kicking.
have a cigar leprachaun
Ok, I quite like cigars. :)
No, it actually is more popular than it has ever been. There aren't as many big AAA PC games anymore, but PC gaming has grown hugely in other sectors such as in games that are small and simple. That market, made up of games such as Kartrider, Farmville, and Combat Arms, is made up of hundreds of millions of users. Kartrider alone has 230 million registered users.
but who cares that there are millions of people playing farmville? do u really want all games to become that. i think when we talk about pc gaming, we are talking about gamers who buy serious budget games. when people say that pc gaming is dead, they're referring to that market, not the website minigame market. and isnt that the sector pretty much everyone one this website wants to be healthy?
Combat Arms is an FPS similar to Counter-Strike and Kartrider is a kart racing game similar to Mario Kart. Both are standalone games that you have to download to play, not browser-based games. No, I don't want all games to become casual, and that's not going to happen. But to leave out such a significant market seems odd to me. There is a lot of money to be had in this market; for example, there was a report a couple months ago that said, if I remember correctly, Farmville players spend an average of $20-30. Multiply that by the tens of millions of players who play the game and that's a lot of money. The more "hardcore" games like Maplestory are doing pretty well, too. The revenue of the company that develops that game is 650 million USD. While the core gaming market on the PC is smaller than the consoles combined, it's still doing well. Far from dying. There are still many multi-million selling games, and some of them are even from small companies and/or are new IPs.
you know if it was dead then I wouldn't see how digital download services like Steam, D2D, impulse and GOG could survive. They must have some source of income and if publishers are willing to have their games on pc then their must be a market that buys them
npd said that digital download account for nearly 50% of pc game sales. That says a lot. And Pc is not dying. Its just that there are not as many games to appeal to the new wave of gamers. And the console culture is spreading fast. Today you find consoles in a lot of homes in america. We want what we see and these days kids get to see a lot of consoles. But little do they know how much the pc rules.
I remember when Electronics Boutique was all about the PC. Not just gaming, mind you, but PC software and hardware in general. I bought my first copy of Microsoft Word for Windows'95 from there. Then GameStop bought the company and things went to shit. It's almost impossible to find PC anything there -- it's all overpriced console crap.
Yeah, I always found the "PC gaming is dead" hyperbole to be pretty hilarious, myself. Not sure why so many people took it and ran with it. Starcraft II definitely proves it, and WoW Cataclysm's going to prove it again later this year.
Dumb title. I mean common dude it's Starcraft II, it's one of the biggest franchises before and after the PC gaming boom.
...it’s just has decreasing exclusive support... but with Blizzard on their side, I think the market will be fine for awhile.
I think we must take notice to there being fewer PC exclusives now that Valve develops for the consoles, but the platform is nowhere near being dead. Starcraft 2 is proof of that, as I saw a bunch of people waiting outside Gamestop to get it. This was my first retail game I've purchased for the PC in years.
I think PC exclusives might be part of the problem. Not that they exist, but that so many of them aren't worth beans. A lot of shovelware gets put onto the PC -- so much so it makes the DS look like its slacking.
Most PC gamers don't give two shits about exclusives. 99% of the time, we get the better version of just about every multiplatform game. Console exclusives are going the way of the dinosaur the same way a lot of PC exclusives are, and soon the only people developing on single platforms will be the ones owned by the platform holder.
PC gaming is dying in a way. Games are getting all casualised for consoles and PC is just left with console ports. Thankfully some developers like BLIZZARD stay true only to PC and make really good games. PC may be getting lesser good exclusives titles, but these games just set your pants on fire. PC gaming is undead!
Actually, when you look at it retrospectively. The reason people think PCs are left with Console-ports is because that's what the media focuses on. While I do agree that PC-Gaming has taken a step from the limelight, to imply PC Gaming is dying period isn't being fair to PC-Gaming as a whole. Someone already mentioned TF2, and that's just one of many games still played actively on PC today whose player-pool rivals MW2 for both 360 and PS3. I can list a bunch of games still being actively played that rivals Halo 3/MW2 easily. (70k players per day) CS-Source/CS 1.6 Battlefield 2/2142 COmbat Arms Maple Story Left 4 Dead 2 WoW (obviously) . . . All, which have PC Roots. (exclusive or not)
It's not dead, just less popular. I know I'll be a PC gamer the next few months with StarCraft II and FFXIV...
Yeah, I can't wait for FFXIV. That's going to eat up my entire Fall! I've never paid for an MMO subscription before, so that will be my first and I suspect it'll get its hooks into me. I'm pretty excited.
PC gaming is alive, Farm Ville is proof of it. Also there's games that consoles do not support well, RTS and Sims like games.
Speaking of console rts, I think the best one, was starcraft for the n64 I think it had the best controls of any console rts ever created.
Try Herzog Zwei on the Megadrive/Genesis. You know, the first modern rts ever made.
If pc gaming is dying then why are company's like Valve still doing free dlc for TF2 in its third year. Also the insane steam sales summer sale. Piracy is ofc a problem but steam has helped reduce that. Only blind morons and shitty journalist think pc gaming is dead.
Preorders for starcraft is more than Alan wake sales
would bet $100 it's also higher than gow3 sales and kz2 sales. this is brick and mortar only. wouldn't be surprised there are 5 digital copies for every 1 physical copy pre-ordered.
Just beat the dead horse, why don't ya...
got mine, played for 2+ hours both sp and mp, and all easily can see why this can never be duplicated on a console. and pc gaming is not dead, but sites like this try to make it look that way.
I'm going to try to pick it up tomorrow - Looking forward to playing it.
I got a text at just after midnight from a friend of mine in Vegas telling me he'd been in line since around nine that night to get his copy. I facepalmed.
Valve are already proving it. but SC2 definitly helps :D
i respect blizzard one of the few publishers thats not selling out my friend saw the starcraft 2 ad on tv said he buying it. told him what the game was about he said he still getting it never played a pc game xbox fanboi to the death. if pc devs actually tried to get new pc gamers gaming could be better period and stead of acting like pc games dont exist. sellouts
PC gaming is not exactly 'dead' (Developers haven't cut support), but it's only good for a handful of games (Wow, Starcraft 2, Diablo 3) So of course a great game is going to get high sales, especially if it's a game made for PC (RTS). It's just a shame there are hardly many other great games on the platform, like there use to be all those years back. My setup hardly gets any use anymore, but it is eagerly awaiting Starcraft 2.
Now that this is out, can we actually get Diablo 3, which is the best of those two?
I've always liked Diablo better than Starcraft myself. I absolutely can't wait for Diablo 3!
both are old school, take your pick. SC2 < D3
Close to 300 people were at the local BestBuy waiting for midnight. 100 collectors editions, very happy to get one myself. Played for a couple hours, single player campaign is amazing.
having sex ever 10 years in a marriage, no matter how glorious, doesn't make for a happy marriage.
The PC needs more than one big release per year to be considered thriving. It's not dead, but it's certainly not doing well.
It's sad that so many people think PC gaming is dead. While many of them 'know' it's not dead, they still claim it is and refuse to acknowledge otherwise, because most of them are console fanboys and can't accept the fact that their parent companies are lying to them. I'm done trying to convince them. If the clear facts can't get though their thick skulls, they can wallow in their own 'stupidity stew' for all I care. PC Gaming FTW.
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