Submitted by Technical World 1862d ago | opinion piece

Has Kinect Sold You?

Let me just state that I will never buy Kinect. Playstation Move, mabey, but not Kinect. It doesn't seem right. The games they have aren't very good and you look like an idiot using it. They have the right idea. But the technology isn't developed enough for me to spend $150.00 on it. (Kinect, Playstation Move, Xbox 360)

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frankymv  +   1862d ago
I think that the majority of gamers on N4G will not be buying kinect.
Count  +   1862d ago
Mostly because they're Ps3 fanboys.
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mrv321  +   1862d ago
Mostly because they are smart enough to realise $150 for Kinectimals and dancing games doesn't seem like a good investment but what would the launch line-up planned games, features, spec list and previews tell us about Natals game possibilities.

Also no buttons.

I am considering buying move which is more that I can say for Natal.

I said 'smart ENOUGH' doesn't mean they can be a doctor it just means they have common sense.
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Omega4  +   1862d ago
Wow people disagreeing with the facts, sad.

The worst part is they all say they will buy Move when you know for a fact they won't.
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hiredhelp  +   1862d ago
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hiredhelp  +   1862d ago
DO YOU SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EVERY 360 OWNER.or just to critasise playstation owners.
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Count   1862d ago | Trolling | show
tynam  +   1862d ago
It's amazing how much I hate you after just 5 words
ATLGAMER  +   1862d ago
So you are a fanboy if u think Kinect is crappy...then a lot of xbox users are ps3 fanboys also right ...
just give it up already as of now kinect is a big failure you are only defending it because u are the fanboy
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asyouburn  +   1862d ago
i dont like dance games
or petting fake animals. and i dont need a game to exercise, i work out two nights a week in a gym. so sony has nothing to do with me not wanting kinect.
EDIT: and just thought i'd throw this in as well, i wont be buying move either.
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tinybigman  +   1862d ago
i will not buy kinect because i don't waste my money on shovelware, and items that have no worth for me. i don't buy shovelware for the wii; so why the hell should i spend $150 for a camera when the games for it are horrible.

move i'll buy because it has been shown to work with core games, and that's what i want from my games.

agree/disagree all you want but that's how honestly i feel about both new motion control schemes.
oohWii  +   1862d ago
A fair question
Why do PS3 Fanboys, that have no desire to buy Kinect feel compelled to come into a 360 thread (about Kinect) and give their opinions?

Is it to show support for the other PS3 FANBOYS that they know are in the thread trolling also?

Do they really think 360 Owners give a damn what they think?

Are they a bunch of bithcy girly men?

Do they really think that their opinions mean a rat ass to anyone but their mothers?

Really, what compells someone to comment on something that they claim to have no interest in, let alone write an article about it?

Please, serious inquiries only.

Thank you,
N4G fanboy research department (FRD)

@tinybigman - haha, spoken like a true "BANNED" disgruntled converted PS3 fanboy. XBL gamertag says it all.
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tinybigman  +   1862d ago
you think i give 2 craps what you think? if i was a fanboy i wouldn't own all 3 systems numbnuts. and just because my system is banned doesn't mean shit. i won't spend my hard earned cash on something that has shown to be worthless to me.

you looking up my gamertag shows me how worthless you are as a person. what i do with the item i spent my money on is none of your concern.

oh and your the bitchy little girl for coming on here and complaining about other people.
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karl  +   1862d ago
because it sucks.... hope that enlights anyone who was considering on buying it..
secksi-killer  +   1862d ago
nope not sold
i wont be buying this, just like i wont be buying "the move". i have a wii which i dont use, so i have no intention of buying sony and microsofts desperate attempts to get some of the wiis market.

kinetic and move = desperate me too copying.

now disagree away.
oohWii  +   1862d ago
Hit a nerve did I?

Don't be upset I understand, you got your 360 banned because you modded it. I explains why you think 150 for Kinect is too expensive, you are use to stealing what you use on your consoles. MS caught you, banned your 360 and now you're pissed as if you weren't the cause of your own 360 getting banned.

Wow, I am either pretty good at this, or you are simply that easy to read. I think it's the ladder of the two.

My looking up your gamertag, is simply investigative commenting, something you should probably do before opening your mouth so much on N4G. It's not pathetic of me, you put the gamertag out there for people to see right? Perhaps you should remove it if you don't want people to know that you rent games, and make copies of them; or that you're a HUGE GAMING CHEATER! (I would have to go with the former on this one.)

I'm just saying.
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tinybigman  +   1862d ago
no jackass I modded my system because I'm a new single homeowner. So on top of paying for mortgage, I pay for cable, cel phone, maintenance, electric, and 3 credit cards. So I made the choice to mod it to save money I don't have to buy all the games I want to play.

I will not apologize to anyone for what I do with my personal items so u can go blow it out your ass. And even if I didn't mod my system I still wouldn't buy kinect because I don't buy shovelware games, and that's all that kinect has. So again kiss my you know what you self righteous ass.

You really have no life to focus or care about what my comment says; or what I do with my personal stuff.

Go ahead and complain to the mods I don't care.

Oh I'm not changing my comment for no one, and if I really hated the 360 I would have never bought the system dipsh*t.
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Biggest  +   1862d ago
I'm late to this party and don't really care about the Kinect in general. But I must respond to this:

A fair question
Why do PS3 Fanboys, that have no desire to buy Kinect feel compelled to come into a 360 thread (about Kinect) and give their opinions?

This is a thread that poses a question that is open to all gamers. It applies even moreso to PS3 fanboys. Microsoft fanboys wanted Kinect before they knew about it. Now that we know what it is and what it does, does it do enough to make people that didn't want it before want it now? The obvious answer is no.
livinwitbias  +   1862d ago
Anger management much! I guess oohwii did hit a nerve. I really don't know how or why you think being a single parent gives you a license to steal software simply because you can't afford it.

The sad thing is you're using it as justification as if that makes it okay. You're right about one thing, no one can tell you what to do with your money and what to buy with it. But here some friendly advice, if you're so broke that you need to pirate games because you are a single parent with bills and a house full of kids, perhaps you shouldn't have bought so much gaming gear.



"Now that we know what it is and what it does, does it do enough to make people that didn't want it before want it now? The obvious answer is no"

The only thing obvious is your arrogance and your misguided ability to assume what other people would want.

I hereby click the disagree button under your comment.
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playstation_clan  +   1862d ago
no, reason. how about the fact that i prefer buttons for gaming

EDIT@below- just because i have playstation_clan as a username says i prefer ps3, yes but it doesnt take rocket science to know kinect will fail with hardcore gamers
i just love core gaming which kinect isnt, bottom line.
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Count  +   1862d ago
Says the oh so ''playstation_clan' ;'. With added Ps3 avatar.

What is a hardcore gamer?
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zootang  +   1862d ago

Hardcore gamers are gamers that play full games like Killzone 3 and Resi 5 and Sorcery, then try to master the game. I don't think anyone could call Kinectimals or fitness game hardcore.

Just my opinion, not fact :)
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PirateThom  +   1862d ago
Anyone defending Kinect, as a legitimate gaming controller along with the cost of it, is an idiot. There. Plain and simple.

No "hidden agenda", no "misdirection". No, you're an idiot.
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hamoor  +   1862d ago
Hey look my friend...I think a lot of things in life is overpriced and not worth it like the Mac laptops and so..but am not gonna till everybody DON'T BUY IT OR YOU ARE AN IDIOT!!
everybody have an opinion and if they got the money the can spend it they way the want to
PirateThom  +   1862d ago
It's a $150 web cam with no games. It's not even a case of having an opinion, those are the facts of it and I'm not against people spending their money how they want, generally, Kinect is just one step too far.
Bigpappy  +   1862d ago
@ PirateThom
I must be a double Ediot. I bought 2.

Who would have tunk?

Next time I want to spend my cash, I be sure and check with you first, cause I don't want to be an idiot.
zootang  +   1862d ago

What was the reason for buying 2? I'm interested.
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PS360PCROCKS  +   1862d ago
Hamoor I have a Macbook Pro and I'm not an idiot. Was it overpriced? Hell yes it was! Was it worth it? Hell yes it was. It allows me to do schoolwork on the programs I need since my college is all mac computers. The price is just a number, only you can justify what it's worth to you. Some people think 360/PS3 are overpriced, cars, Apple anything, louis vuitton etc...The point is money is just an object if it makes you happy it's worth it. My MBP makes me very happy, so does my PS3, Xbox 360, Motorola Droid, 50" Pioneer Elite. Most people think I'm crazy for having nearly $10,000 worth of just electronics. I think people are crazy for buying $70,000 cars, $25,000 worth of tools.

Oh and Pirate thom was saying you're an idiot if you pay $150 for a webcam that isn't even a legitimate controller. I agree with him.
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Bigpappy  +   1862d ago
Bought one for myself
Then I decided to get one for my kids (teens) as they are more excited about it than I am. I like my WRPG's and other Hardcore games. So when I am playing those, I don't want them voting me off so they can do their dance games and their mom can work out. So there you go.
ActionBastard  +   1862d ago
@ BigPappy
No need to get defensive. It is confusing to read someone whose reasoning for buying Kinect is "I like WRPG's and other Hardcore games", when neither has even been hinted.
secksi-killer  +   1862d ago
pirate thom
but i bet you would "valiantly" defend "the move"!

im sorry thom, but to me you are just another sony turd.
Bzone24  +   1862d ago
No hidden agenda or misdirection from the king basher of the anything Xbox. lol That was a good one thomas.
Blaze929  +   1862d ago
seeing as I already pre-ordered one at Toys R US for that $89.99 deal - I guess it has.
Inside_out  +   1862d ago
Buying BOTH Move and Kinect...
Well I'm interested in Move for Socom and Kinect for adventures as well as the specific ubisoft exercise game and MTV dance game. If you have small children, I can see Kinect being the number one add on because of Kinectanimals. I also have a Wii but rarely use it.

In terms of price, Kinect wins, 1 kinect Vs 2 move controllers and the camera. In terms of bundles, Kinect, as of now wins with the $299 Vs $399 PS3 bundle. The Wii costs even less now, $210 ( $285 with second controller ), with 2 games.

M$ is set to have a monster holiday season. Sony Move will sell well to those who have a PS3 already, but I think they will have a hard time convincing people to pay $399 for the PS3 Move bundle...PLUS add a second controller and a game and your in the $550 range...ouch. Pushing 3D TV's at the same time could also really hurt the Move sales. 3D, right now no matter how great it looks ( Panasonic 3D is INCREDIBLE ), is very expensive. The glasses alone are $150 ea.
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Biggest  +   1862d ago
Panasonic, dude? Really?
Kulupoo  +   1862d ago
Not going to buy Kinect, untill they show show hardcore games
asyouburn  +   1862d ago
why wait for kinect
theres a plethora of "hardcore" games on 360 right now. i dont think kinect will ever give it to you
RealityCheck  +   1862d ago
I agree, for me to consider it they would need to show some core games or optional integration into the main 360 games.
otherZinc  +   1862d ago
My family is sold on Kinect. Not me, as I cant stand any motion control device.

If I ranked them MOVE would be the worst, Wii is the leader because they started it & Kinect in 2nd place. SONY should just stop before they take an enormous loss.
asyouburn  +   1862d ago
"If I ranked them MOVE would be the worst, Wii is the leader because they started it"

So a model T ford is "better" than a ferrari because it came first?
Spenok  +   1861d ago
Most likely not.
Dsnyder  +   1862d ago
I will never be suckered into buying a pimped out webcam.
Im already doubtful on this motion control crap for any console but this is just extortion. People seem to have forgotten that games are about relaxing and sitting your ass on a couch, not coming home and flailing your arms at the screen. I dont want to excercise when I play a game and I dont want to pay half a console to do it either.
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hamoor  +   1862d ago
All these motion crap is gonna be boring after a month or so...at least in my opinion
Agent-86  +   1862d ago
Kinect Is A Joke!
1) You look ridiculous playing
2) You can only play standing up
3) Requires 6 feet of space between player and device (which actually turns into 9 feet since you need room to move around; 6 feet is the line you can't cross)
4) Only two people can play at a time (and, as far as I know, no Kinect game can be played online)
5) Doesn't recognize wrist or other fine movement
6) High entry price of $150
7) Games are $50 each. Really, $50 to fake pet a fake tiger!
8) No games appealing to hardcore gamers
9) Uses 15% of the 360's processing power
cossie123  +   1862d ago
ok your comment is an utter fail. do ya research before you post stupid comments.

1) You look ridiculous playing - maybe so but who gives a shit its fun
2) You can only play standing up - incorrect ,games can be played sitting if they are made that way. and why the hell would you sit down on games like dance central. lol
3) Requires 6 feet of space between player and device - true but if ya got the room buy it, if ya aint then dont
4) Only two people can play at a time (and, as far as I know, no Kinect game can be played online) - true again but could you see 4 people standing side by side in a room. and yes kinect games will work on live.
5) Doesn't recognize wrist or other fine movement - my not be true as its been mentioned that the bowling game can detect the spin from ya wrist
6) High entry price of $150 - not bad considering you get a game with it and if you go to www.thehut.com for £134 you van get it with 2 games
7) Games are $50 each. Really, $50 to fake pet a fake tiger! - business mate business
8) No games appealing to hardcore gamers - not yet but will be soon, this is just the start wait till it matures
9) Uses 15% of the 360's processing power - i do 100% agree on this but we will see soon if it affects the gameplay
Mighty Boom  +   1862d ago
MorganX  +   1862d ago
Hell no but ...
Another Gamestop 2x trade-in and I'm all over the new 360S!
hamoor  +   1862d ago
Screw kinect and MOVE all you need is this little baby to REALLY enjoy the hardcore games
Bloodyghost  +   1862d ago
Fuck Kinect and Fuck Move
I do not get why everyone is getting all buzzed up for both. I mean families seriously want 3Mote and a Eye Toy Plus?! I mean come on..

Kinectimals is the most retard idea for a game ever following up with Shoot Out!
JonnyBigBoss  +   1862d ago
I'm really not a fan of little casual games, so no. They still haven't shown it as working well with a full retail game.
SSKILLZ  +   1862d ago
Hell No !
Yangus  +   1862d ago
No.Why?I'dont like tv aerobic.
I'like videogames.
labwarrior  +   1862d ago
I am buying day one, it is the next gen of controls, so i cant wait
I will buy the Yoga and Kinectimals games first, and wait for Fable 3
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Convas  +   1862d ago
No sir, it has not.
prettyboy1  +   1862d ago
i honestly dont care
anymore good luck to sony and ms cuz nintendo got thier game faces on
PS360PCROCKS  +   1862d ago
No. It looked cool in theory in 2009. It looked lame in actuality in 2010. Laggy, lame games and the only difference between the wii, move and Kinect is that Kinect doesn't make you need a controller to waggle. I bought a Wii, I sold it, I don't like motion based games, it's a pain in the ass. Joysticks ftw.
J-Smith  +   1862d ago
if it works with my xbox360 hd-dvd add-on then yeah[i am so GULLIBLE]
tiamat5  +   1862d ago
It's like someone said in another post Kinect is running a sprint while Move is running a marathon. Kinect seem to be made only attract people to the 360 and nothing else. Like the evil guy said in Robocop about ED209 'It will make us millions. Who cares if it works?'The Move seems to be in for the long haul with game intergration, titles for both hardcore and casual going into next year and tech demos showing the wide potential for the Move. All Microsoft has really done is make promises, showcase the limitation of their games and reveal their inexperience with catering to casuals. The Kinect may have the WOW factor that will cause non gamers and naive people to run and buy it first, but Move has the high potential,reliability and durability that will make it last longer than the very limited potential of Kinect. Kinect might have been better with a few more years of research and development but as it stands it barely can compete with either Move or a Wii.Fanboy or not anyone with eyes can see that.
stuna1  +   1862d ago
Well said! It's pretty obvious that microsoft agenda really is, people really need to open your eyes. It's all right to love a console for what it offers you, but don't be blinded to the fact that we as owners of said consoles are merely statistical figures in the grand scheme of things, to sony, to microsoft and to nintendo. All have at sometime or other have tried to sell a idea that has been half cooked, but for the most part most have panned out. Microsoft in my opinion takes thing a step further to the degree of using it's fanbase and any unsuspecting consumer as guinea pigs as a means to a end! Which usually ends bad for the consumer who ultimately ends up footing the bill. Microsoft knows that kinects is not ready for consumer consumption, microsoft knows that kinects will not be ready in november, microsoft knows it fanbase and that they will buy it just on their word, and finally microsoft knows that the average consumer is not going to do the necessary research about kinects like maybe the core gamer or, someone on n4g might.
forcefullpower  +   1861d ago
Nice comments from you both. I have serious doubts about kinect as i now know of someone now that is getting because of what he been told by MS. I asked him that if he has heard of move and he said yes but suckered into buying it om what MS had told him.

Its like watching a train wreck in slow motion as i know what he is going to say once he gets it. He is one of the casual people that MS are aiming at tho. So they are doing the marketing right. This will end up selling a lot at the start and then word of mouth that it is shite will end the product.
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OSIRUSSS  +   1862d ago
Has Kinect Sold You?
No. I hate Skittles. And PEW,PEW,PEW!!!!
ArchangelMike  +   1862d ago
You had me at Natal /s
There are good reasons why the eyetoy failed, and whyn the PSeye does not have a massive install base. Sony have learned this lesson the hard way. Saying Kinect is a 3D camera is a moot point because the user interface is still the same as the eyetoy.

Why did eyetoy fail... lack of compelling games? lack of developer support? lack of (hardcore) gamer support? Whatever you might think, Kinect has not addressed these issues, and Microsoft seems to be making the same mistake Sony made last gen. Will clever smoke and mirrors marketing be enough to turn the tide? Only time will tell.

The bottom line however is that if the hardcore 360 gamer is alienated, Kinect will not succeed in the long run the entry fee for the casual gamer is simply too steep. The hardcore 360 gamer would purchase it IF it has hardcore games on offer. Would anyone reallty pay $150 just to wave at their 360 dashboard... really. More money than sense if you ask me!
LoydX-mas  +   1862d ago
one major difference...
Is the marketing MS is putting into Kinect. Sony never pushed Eyetoy to this degree.
ArchangelMike  +   1862d ago
As I said in my post... "will the marketing be enough to turn the tide". It seems that all MS have at this point is clever marketing.
Hades1337  +   1862d ago
Not at launch, but will probably get it next year when its cheaper.
GaMe01  +   1862d ago
I ordered it for $89.99 through Toys R us, My daughter will have some fun with it so thats all that matters.
thrust  +   1862d ago
you have to love the PS3 fanboys,,,,
they just can not live along said other consoles beating there ps3 lol

going off this site you would think the ps3 is best and doing amazing when infact is in LAST PLACE and will be till the next gen comes out.

take it or leave it but it's happening ps3 fanboys and there is nothin you can say that will help it!
dkp23  +   1862d ago
Seems to me
I see a lot of kinect bashing when it was announced as Natal way back...Saying motion thing is played out and ms is stealling from Nintendo....Then the same people bashing are probably praising Move...odd odd thing...
samco  +   1862d ago
im totaly sold on it remember kinect will evolve , unlike the glowing traffic lights sony is offring
mrv321  +   1862d ago

The further down the list you move the more buttons/stick a controller has... they get more complicated.

How many buttons does the Natal have?

That's evolution for you.
dionnysus  +   1862d ago
i would like Kinect and PS move to fail, not because i hating, but because i fear the shovel-ware and the influx of stupid novelty accessories that may flood the 360/ PS3 markets. waggle controls may win in the short interim but i just can't see the hardcore completely adopting it. but if it does, then i'll bite.
Alos88  +   1862d ago
In Soviet Russia, Kinect buys you!
Dirk Benedict  +   1862d ago
in Soviet Russia, you RROD.
tiamat5  +   1862d ago
GaMe01 you do realize that at that price you still have to buy a game which brings it back to basically the same price that Kinect is with a game bundled. thrust it's amazing how short fanboys memories are have you forgotten it was Sony who was stomping on Nintendo and Microsoft's consoles not too long ago. Now Sony is a little behind you are getting cocky. Sony is hot on Microsoft's heels and Microsoft can't catch Nintendo. You also forget that Move is going first and can steal many casuals and non gamers before Kinect can. Plus two potential system sellers GT5 and LBP2 are coming out before the Kinect and can sell millions of units. It's amazing how people like you think like children and think Sony with settle for third place forever. Even if they don't move up in this generation there is still another one after this. Sony next console could still destroy Nintendo and Microsoft like their first few consoles did.
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LoydX-mas  +   1862d ago
Take that Sony haters!!!
thrust  +   1862d ago
did you read my post or did you not understand it?

you almost said the same thing as i did :/.

and to insult me saying i think like a kid is hmmm have you read your own post?
Senden  +   1862d ago
Yeah Kinect sold me to invest in a ps3 and give my money to a console developer who actually cares about it's gamers.. will I buy move? Maybe depending on how I like socom.
ALFAxD_CENTAURO  +   1862d ago
Getting Move instead. There are real games.
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mightydog01  +   1862d ago
Answer No its not ready to be on the market.....We all know this?
dkp23  +   1862d ago
I preordered one for 89.99
so i guess was sold, not by kinect, but by Toys r us..
biggame901  +   1862d ago
At this point in time, no. The games for Kinect right now do not interest me in the slightest, and the tech is, to me, underdeveloped. Maybe once the technology is more developed and there are better games, I will consider it. But right now, no.
Boody-Bandit  +   1862d ago
I have zero interest in picking up Kinect at this time. MS has to show me more than some extreme casual (shovelware) games before I spend $150 on a motion camera. I don't see this device being used for anything other than casual games this generation. Personally I like having a controller in my hand so MS would really have to wow me in the future to change my mind about using my body as a controller. <-- I don't see this happening any time soon.
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