"Dozens of games are in development for the 3DS. But why are so many of them old, and what does this mean for the system’s future?"
The developers are taking this new tech for advantage. Its just like the Batman movies. The take it for advantage and cash in big on them. I live the 3D tech, but along with no tech, give me new software. Uncharted and Gears are great examples of the new software on the tech
Chris Nolan & Wally Pfster chose IMAX for selected scenes in The Dark Knight because they genuinely believed it enhanced the story-telling. This is made especially evident has they have both publicly spoken down/against using 3D for the next Batman movie and would rather film the entire movie in IMAX as they don't personally believe in the hype behind 3D. If they were using IMAX in The Dark Knight purely to take advantage of those additional IMAX cinema sales, they would've jumped onto the next bandwagon (3D) and they haven't. Or are you getting confused with Thor and Captain America? THOSE are cash-ins, just like any movie being converted to 3D post-production. Post-production 3D really do look cheap and nasty, film it in 3D or don't bother at all.
New games will come! The DS has never had a problem with having new games. But a lot of the older games are games people have been hoping to see a remake of! I loved a lot of the games from the N64 and am looking forward to getting updated versions of them. But believe me... the 3DS will have enough games to make his point well... pointless!
Always a fan of original and unique content over ports.
I'm sure most would agree with you. But I'm not worried. This trend will likely fade out after the first year or so. Publishers are simply looking for a way to quickly make surefire hits and cash in on the huge hype aroung the system.
I don't understand though. Half of the Gameboy Advance's library was ports, look at Super Mario Advance 1-4, Link to the Past, and Metroid Zero Mission for proof. None of these were bad games, but this is not the start of a new trend, this has been going on for a while now. I'm not too worried about this, because I'm pretty sure that for starters the Metal Gear shown at E3 is not what they are really doing and the plan is to create and original title. I'd still buy a Metal Gear 3 port though, especially if it looks like it did at E3. But what I'm trying to say is that not all these ports are going to actually be for sale, and there will be plenty of original games. Oh, and let's not forget that Yoshi's Island 3D port. Would pay any price they asked for that one.
Sure most of the games are old, but you have to realize that this is a new way to play many of the games. Some of these games were restricted to consoles, and now they're portable.
I'm still unconvinced by 3D, and remakes aren't going to convince me.
Mega Man 2 being released for 3DS = winrar!
It could be that Nintendo is appealing to people who love the standard Nintendo franchises and their older games. For the longest time, it was a joke that Nintendo was looking for the new crowd of gamers these days and didn't heed any mind to the people who've stuck with them throughout Nintendo's lifetime. I for one am happy to see several old-but-gold games coming to the 3DS at launch and a bit after, such as Star Fox 64; sure, it's a port and not a new Star Fox game, but it's a port of arguably the best Star Fox game to date. However, I do see the point that this could turn into a trend later if not managed properly on Nintendo's part. While I am happy that we're seeing many older games coming to the 3DS, for me it feels like Nintendo's simply paying what they owe to their older fanbase.
Yes, I'm an older gamer who loves the older stuff, but I very much agree with others posting here; it's a new system, let's see some new material! -GZ, #Crackdown2
I want new games in 3d not games that I played and beat years ago.....
Im certainly won't be complaining about a portable version of Zelda:OoT, at least the games they are porting are the best of the best. The reason there are probably so many of them is cause devs haven't had a lot of time to make new games since they probably only just got the dev kits and ports a quicker to make, but in the future you can bet there will be a lot of new IPs and sequels from the DS era.
Come on the older games are the real classics that people want to play. Yeah we all love new stuff but check out how excited we get when the good old days come out to play.
Want good old days? Go play good old games. Seriously, we need new games from now, not to replay the stuff from yesteryear.
I am not liking the trend - If you want to do 3D right (which I am not sold on as of yet anyway) you have to at least develop from scratch for it. Doing so after the fact doesn't work (just take a look at some of the badly implemented 3D movies that have come out recently). GZ - #Crackdown2
Im sorry but this comment can not be serious. "you have to at least develop from scratch for it" All games have been optimized to be played in 3D, 3D isnt something thats just slapped on there. When trying the 3DS all games really stood out too me. The only game that poorly optimized it was resident evil but other than that MGS3, KH, Zelda, Star Fox, Nintendogs, ect all looked amazing in 3D
It just seems another way to make a quick buck. Its been done so many times, release a port and add some gimmicks. How many ports have been released on either gameboy, gba, or NDS? Nintendo is not doing anything new, but its the reason I moved to psp. From a business sense it will sell due to nostalgia and first party software. Hopefully nintendo learned the mistakes of virtual boy and the world is now ready for a 3d system. I loved nintendo but after DS phat, I got tired of keeping up. This adds another question since eventually they will phase out the ds. Will the 3ds just have ports of ds games in 3d? #Crackdown2
I agree completely with the writer. I am so tired of all the remakes in general - films, music, and games!! GZ - #Crackdown2
I think it's a good start to bring such classics to the 3D realm, to draw in those people who are nostalgic. I'm sure they'll bring in a lot more new games as well later on, but I don't see a problem with this.
That's business. Ports are a lot cheaper to do than original games, so developers will naturally make as much as they can from ports. They'll make more original games when they see sales are high enough to make up for the far higher development costs. GZ
If it's ok for Sony to do it. Then Nintendo should surely be able to get away with it.
Sony shouldn't get away with it and neither should Nintendo. I'm getting sick of these damn ports. Give me some new fucking games. That's what our current technology is for. CURRENT STUFF. Instead of.. omg old stuff, but improved a little. Like I give a shit. IF I WANTED OLD STUFF, I'D GET/PLAY OLD STUFF.
I honestly don't mind it too much, but if ports are the only thing to look forward to, then there's definitely a problem. How am I supposed to enjoy the 3DS if all I'll be buying is ports? The thing I figured though is that it's not all bad since the 3DS is backwards compatible with NDS titles. There are a ton of great games already on that platform, with some upcoming AAA titles like Ghost Trick and maybe Super Scribblenauts. I'm gonna be optimistic though and say that there are some AAA titles being developed for the 3DS platform, and as you've said they were probably just unmentioned.
The difference with Sony is that with the Sly collection you get 3 games optimized with trophy support and 3d support. Same for God of war collection 2 games only 40$ with trophy and optimized for HD plus it was a nice way to get new people in to the franchise. They could have just put OOC and Majora's on 1 disk,cartridge or something like that now its just a port with 3D and probably nothing will be added.
Pahh nintendo does it all the time, what's new about this. honestly Sony learned to do hd remakes from them lol. It is most assuredly not a growing trend on nintendo's end, it IS their trend lol.
not an issue for me as the same complains were made early in the DS life because of t he mario 64 remake .. the games will come there is no doubt about it
ports from the consoles... but there will always be new IP, it's just not as quick as making ports. lolz
Think of it like leftovers- you're only going to have indigestion if you try eating leftovers from leftovers (final fantasy 1 and 2 come to mind). Having a game remade once isn't bad as long as the gameplay is either intact or improved.
The more games they have the more people would want to buy the 3d.
3DS was a very big secret,so the developers didn't have more time to create anything new. But they will,later,I'm sure of that.
Although Nintendo seems content to mine every 30-something gamer's nostalgic childhood for ideas, it'd be nice to see them create a totally new IP for once.
Hmmmm....establishing a new system with old games/ports isn't necessarily a bad idea. Provided that the changes are slightly more than just cosmetic. Mostly because you already have a previously established franchise, so there's already a user base that you can tap. Just my thoughts....
Its just nintendo trying to cash in once again. Who the hell spends $2-300 on a handheld to play 15 year old games? Yeah im not that big of a sucker.
as long as those ports are good i'm fine. i love yoshi's island. i have the snes, gba and the DS version, have it on VC and you better bet i'll get it for the 3DS too. there are not too many remakes i'm aware of, theres, yoshi's island, mega man 2,star fox 64, LoZ:OoT, MGS, and SMT:DS. i'm sure there will be plenty of new games. lets just hope 3rd parties don't **** this up like they did with the wii and making tons of shovelware, then say, "why isn't it sell? the wii has no hardcore gamers", right, because i want to play 5 hour games, rail shooters, and games with no replay value all for $50. anyway, i think the 3DS will do just fine ----- @ cygnuszero same thing could be said about the PSP. atleast the 3DS would have older games as you said, and not ports of games that just came out
I'm not too thrilled by the idea of reliving the N64 days.. AGAIN, except this time in stereoscopic 3D. I'm looking forward to some decent 3rd party support, which hasn't really shown up yet, except AGAIN with the remakes. I've played MGS3, etc. Playing it again in 3D sounds fun for about 5 minutes -- i.e. it sounds like a great tech demo. Kid Icarus.. now that I'm looking forward to.
Seems like a waste of effort by Nintendo for fans who want new games and new IP. Nintendo knows with the new tech that they won't have enough new games on launch day to sell the 3DS so they go back into their library to port and remake old games.
remaking the classics is great. played mario 64 on N64, DS, and will also in 3D. theres jus some games where you have to see what they are like with the new tech
I dont mind ports, as long as the games are fun. right now i see the 3d aspect as a gimmick. hope they make games that fully utilizes and use the 3d features that really enhance the games.
Ports are ok, remakes are better -GZ, #Crackdown2
well alot of people want the 3ds for many of those remakes
I don't see a problem with this. Sure most of us have played these games already, but about about young or upcoming gamers. Now they have a chance to play great games that simply because of... if I may borrow from Dante's Inferno, being "born into a whirl of ignorance". This is great. Plus it gives me a good excuse to play again! :) In fact, I would like to see more re releases and such. Here's hoping for Metal Gear solid collection for PS3! Just port the gamecube remake, and then 2 and 3 to one bluray disc, and it'll be golden!
Playing safe. Simple. The world is already saturated by the DS, DS lite, DSi, DSi XL. Even though the 3DS is likely to sell by the bucketload, its release is something of a risk given the tech and the fact that everyone and their monkey already owns a DS console. I don't blame Nintendo for listing a lot of familiarity via remakes and ports. Provides a point of reference for gamers to compare the 3D delivery to I suppose. But let's face it, when the 3DS becomes the fastest-selling handheld in history (which I suspect it will), then Nintendo will unleash the dollars for new IPs. Patience.
remakes on the ds were good so why not? I'm hoping for a bad fur day remake or a new game. Hell, I would love a port for the new donkey kong game. By the look of the launch titles and think the 3ds will do just fine throughout its lifetime
I personally dont think so. I will gladly rebuy my old favorites that are redone w/ better graphics and 3D support.
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