CVG: Many waiting for RRP reduction, says analyst
MS have played this gen very well indeed. With the kinect bundles and the slim MS can afford to do multiple pricecuts whenever they please without creating a loss. I only see them cutting the price of the 360S's if demand significantly falls or the PS3 starts outselling it again.
Seriously, stop approving Pachter quotes, so we can get back to the business of news we actually care about.
You mean the BS that is at the top of this page? Pachter's comments are news... some fanboy saying you have to buy two Kinects isn't news
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He said that COD must fees because he heard the see talk about fees. Now he is saying 360 needs a price cut. It is always nice for gamers to get a price cut, but the reallity is 360 is the hottest console right now, and is looking to stay that way going into the holidays unless Sony come up with something to change that momentum. M$ has Halo coming, and it looks like Kinect is set to do what they have been trying to do since launch of 360 (bring the casuals). M$ will not do a price cut untill well after the hollidays.
it has been a headache of broken consoles, high price everything, pay for online gaming. and they will never ever change
Are you speaking for yourself. Cause peoe I talk to that have a 360 never express that. Maybe that's just how you and alot of Sonyfan feel. Too bad it's not share by all MS consumers. Stop generalizing everyone with how you feel.
the only opinion in there would be the headache part, but for the rest of us who are not wearing green goggles the MS strategy sucks for the gamers and dont come here shting my profile with sony fanboy crap. check my post history, i like 360 games as much as the 360 extreme fanboy, but other than that the 360 overall has been a headache. If the 360 were made by a more responsible company it would easily be on my favorite gadget lists, but MS is anything but edit at below yeah my PS3 fatso dies short of the 2 year anniversary with me. it trullyu sucked big time, and i had to fork over $300 which sucked even more. Sony repairs are a joke, or so i have read around here
All consoles fail. A friend who has sent their PS3 in for repair 4 times just bought a new one. Her old man was going to try and fix the dead blue diode but thought better of it. The XBOX's was systemic and huge and lent itself to parody with the 3-rings.
dude you whole statment is an opinion. as it pretain to how you feel about the headaches you are going throught with MS stategy. again your not speaking for everyone. no-one has elected you to speak on anyone behalf and if everyone felt the way you did about paying for live,HDD,ect. they wouldn't keep supporting it.but because they are mean maybe just maybe they like the service they are getting. what i find funny about your whole argument is that you are basiclly generalizing costumer as a whole. like we all feel how you do. thats my point. as i said before the only people complaining about it is you and sonyfanboys. you know the people that don't own the system. i don't havea problem paying for live but you do and i'm sure there are other people that don't have a problem with paying for online. so again your speaking for yourself.
RROD fiasco- proven fact $100 WiFi adapter, $130 for 120GB HD- prove that 360 accessories are overpriced online gaming only after paying for gold membership- is the only gaming platform that does this If that is what you like then keep buying MS products is your choice
you still don't get it. if people don't want to spend on it they won't. no-one said RRoD was false so i fail to see why you brought it up. and the last time i checked getting RroD fixed was free. i've had my 360 for 4 years and never need a 120HDD because i store my game saves on it. so again the 120 HDD drive is not need unless you want the extra space. if you don't want to pay for live. go to PSN it's free. all this is called choices. it's your choice if you want those thing. i rather have a wired connection then wifi because it's better.and as far a fiasco goes. sony went throught the same issues last gen. it's called DRE. i know because i was one of the people that went throught it 3 times. the bad thing about that was i had to come out my pocket. like MorganX said all consoles fail. stop picking and choosing who you want to hate and why when the other company had simillar problem last gen. ok
You're right about RROD and the accessory pricing. The HD and WiFi prices are over the top. But you and others are wrong with regards to Live! It doesn't matter what other services do. Obviously those that pay the price of one game per year don't care. No other service is like Live! I just got my Elite repaired RROD and after about a year of going PS3 only, going back on Live is like going from the Stone Age (XMB-PSN) to outer space.
Pachter would plummet to his death LoL
I think the 360 sales will be drastically reduced come fall if they don't drop the price. The PS3 has some heavy hitters coming in autumn.
Darkstorn you are DREAMING bro. Numbers will speak for itself come this holiday season.
Oh NOW something positive happens to the 360. ROFL!!!
Oh here we go again with this clown. The 360 already won I'm not sure how it can plummet. Duh!
the battle of the HD console? hmmmm
He wasn't talking about who was winning or losing he just made a statement (a pretty obvious one at that) saying xbox sales would decline if they stay at a fixed price for a prolonged amount of time. I would say that is true for any tech product.
I appears you read the article and understand. Good Job +1. Edit: I think the Arcade model with Wireless-N for $199 will offset some of that, especially when people realize they can add 32G of cheap USB storage (2 x 16). 80G of my 99G used on my Elite (got replacement unit back from repair in 10 days with 1 month Live! for the trouble) was movies which I don't buy anymore. I stream and download on PC. So, a 36G machine is more than enough for most, especially those watching costs who wouldn't be buying a lot of online movie downloads anyway.
won? what? nothing?
I think you mean 360 didnt lose....because we all know who lost. :)
Oh no.. this means that the 360 will overtake the wii in total sales!!! damn you patcher
mark this next to wiiHD and $50 kinect
You may think of me as a PS3 fan or what ever but I can safely say the 360S is possibly the best value for money 360 out.
Unless you also need a Blu-ray player. Then it's a wash.
Why do we listen to this guy? Hes never right about anything.
Just like Activision is gonna make COD:BO pay to play online? Wait, they said they weren't on numerous occasions.....just stop Pachter....where's that Wii HD btw that you promised would come out this year? Your right sometimes (and in this case I don't care if you are or not) but I'm tired of hearing Pachter says.....
I thought the Move was Wii HD?
Just... How... does this guy's quotes... Get approved....
I think this guy is right this time
The slim should be $200. Why does M$ just keep making the HDD bigger. Built in WIFI okay that's cool and all. Put a 120 gig in the darn console and sale it for $200 and the arcade for $150. The 360 would fly of shelves at that price.
A bigger HDD costs them like $3. Dropping the price costs them exactly how much they drop the price. Pretty big difference.
I think Pachter is correct this time around... I also think a price drop on the 360 S is entirely possible, once September hits. I'm guessing we could see them drop to $270 or so.
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Is'nt this the same idiot that a month ago was declaring the PS3 needed a price cut? Does he not understand that companies need something called "profit" to stay in business?
he's also the same guy that said sony would release a ps3 sans blu-ray.
They can only go so low. The product itself just doesn't have many selling points which has only been augmented by the price and marketing.
Why this guy isn't hated as much as HHG, I'll never know. It's not like he's any better at his "predictions". Pachter sucks. My prediction: Pacther's credibility will continue to fall in the near and distant future.
MS has def gotten clever with holding out as long as they have, 1 generation ago no one thought they could even compete at all let alone 2nd place, thats the biggest hit to sonys rep is technically they got beat by a new comer, rather they admit it or not, they dont like it SONY computer and tv divison is not doing well according to the profit reports that came out the last thing they needed was the gaming division to suffer, however I think come PS4 you will see Playstation move ahead of xbox from the get go IF and ONLY if they get their online strategy to much more robust and have a killer app for online MS no longer has HALO after bungie, it will never be the same without them. LIVE is xbox's real golden child, its their infrastructure that makes them what they are, PSN can and needs to catch up once it does and they get a killer online app that everyone wants to play, they will take over SONY needs to make PS4 as cool as it was to own a PS1, PS1 made other systems look kiddy, came off as the only real cool system to have
I agree and disagree. Online is important, yes, but I think you're overplaying it a little. How many 360s have sold? Over forty million. How many Live subscriptions? Around eleven million (last I saw). In any case, it's only around twenty-five percent on a console who's known for their online prowess. That means, regardless of what many people around here think, the vast majority of console gamers aren't of the online variety. This is not math, nor is your argument within the realm of logic, so IFF statements (a rectangle is a square if and only if all sides are equilateral) do not apply. It's entirely possible Sony could drop online altogether and be top dog next gen. The same goes with Ninty or MS. Sega and Atari have both proven there are no guarantees in the console market.
MS still has halo. It just doesn't have bungie. MS is making new halo titles at 343 industries.
So basically its cheaper than the PS3, but the PS3 keeps outselling it. So the only way it can compete is again to make it even cheaper.
PS3 isnt winning anymore bro, wake up and smell the flowers
sales doesnt mean its winning.....
that's right. Subjectivity means it's winning.
They can afford to do a price cut, they're making bank. But what does that say about the value you're buying? Personally, I think they will, just so they can always point to 'sales' and divert our attention away from the lack of exclusive core games.
You know this guy is a fail even when every1...fanboys included hate him
we'll see how badly it needs a price drop when the new arcade with built in wi-fi launches in 2 weeks.
What is Patcher smoking today. Jeeez Ive seen shops selling the new 360 for £189.99. Its well worth that price. The Wii is so cheap because its a bag of crap. Both the PS3 and the 360 can do so much more.
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