Microsoft just announced a monster quarter and fiscal year, with record revenue thanks largely to everybody gobbling up Windows 7—to the tune of 175 million licenses sold since it launched.
16 BILLION!? All revenue too.
All revenue... um yeah. Are you confusing revenue with profit? =)
@Trroy, yes, he is. If you read the article completely, their net income was $4.5 billion. Still a huge amount. I stopped feeding the beast long ago and have no desire of "going back to the Dark Side".
I said revenue...not PROFIT. If I meant profit I would say PROFIT! Seriously...I have to laugh at Trroy and Agent-86
everyone should abandon xp and vista already and jump on the 7 bandwagon only then will we progress
No way mate. MS should have made features such as DX10/11 available to all previous OS's or at least XP, it would not have taken much more than a service pack. We should not all have to fork out for the newest version of windows just to enjoy the latest graphics, CPU optimization, RAM use etc. MS are just out for money like everyone else. That is why I refused to pay for my copy of Vista and got a dodgy copy (boo hiss I know). But F them seriously, if they want to cut support for the largest OS base like they did with XP and basically force us to spend hundreds of $$ to upgrade then they deserve piracy. I am going to do the same soon with 7 for my laptop. F them, I paid for a copy of vista which was included with the price of my laptop only to have copies of 7 given away for free if I had waited 2 more weeks to buy. They are not getting my money for there "newest" OS when Windows 8 will only be around the corner for another $250-$500. My point is after all that is that we should not have to "abandon xp and vista already and jump on the 7 bandwagon" for us to see progress. A major company like MS should be progressing with what they already have in place through service packs and updates, XP could be just like 7 with a bit of work from MS. it all comes down to want for more money and lack of wanting to give the community what they want. EDIT @ 360Defender... Whatever you want to think mate. If you follow MS blindly and give them cash every time they wave a new carrot in front of you then you sir are the fool. The only thing I have ever pirated is OS's and that was only vista and 7. I never pirate games as I support dev's the only time I have is when a game gets banned here in Australia then I pirate. Piracy is legitimate and has many arguments for and against. I only do it when I feel morally correct to do so, like when MS through bad business practices segregates the PC communities through lack of proper previous OS support and basically force us to spend big $ for minor upgrades. Only other time is when a game I really want is banned here by religious nuts in power. Anyway I bet you will buy natal for $150 and think you got a good deal like the rest of the sheeple that MS have brain washed.
Anyone that pirates is a piece of shit, you sir deserve to be wiped with paper and flushed. You piece of crap. I see by your additional comment to me that somehow in your pathetic mind you think you are justified to steal a programmers work. Just proves what a worthless piece of crap you are, and no amount of self justifaction can change that. Support your hobby by paying those who's product you use. Anything short of that is shit, just like you are.
It's amazing what people will say to convince themselves that it's O.K. to steal software. You went off on a completely misguided rant because MS released a new version of Windows and they (shockingly) didn't give you a copy for free. Are you kidding me? What is this "give the community (what community?) what they want" nonsense? That must be the community of cheap-ass thieves who think the world owes them something just because they exist. Get a clue...and a job.
well i am personally tired of windows 7 being held back by xp and vista more devs should just jump on the bandwagon already and give it serious support cant tell ya how many times ive found something that interested me only for it to be too unstable or just not supported on w7
it's user friendly and everything and supports all games I wanna play but it costs too much just for the fvcking OS that doesn't even come with at least Word and Excel! and it's not even fully secured and with the release of Vista, BUGGY AS HELL! XP was the same thing before SP1! I'm still on Vista SP2 (2 years of use) but it bugs me to hell because I can't get DX11 even if I buy a DX11 card just because I'm not on 7! a slap in the face I tell ya!
sure, that's what they want (force) you to do. pay, pay, pay, pay, pay and pray that your hardware still will work oh, windows 8 is already coming so prepare your wallet
gwave make a valid point but it's shot down as trolling..... microsoft as a whole made lots of money.but the game division lost money for a fourth straight quarter.less and less revenue.but the other side is doing great at microsoft with windows. so it's fine to celebrate gains on one part but reject parts that are slowly losing money?truthfully,this is only small part of gaming news.but if it's going to be posted,accept the negative that comes along with it: microsoft's gaming division for the 4th straight quarter,is making less money. why?
It could be R&D, lower sales cost and a lot of other mitigating factors.
Its not JUST the gaming division, its also the zune division and all that other crap, everyone who knows anything, knows that 360 is actually profitable itself, thanks to XBL and the profit made on each unit sold. However that division is involved in a lot of poor selling devises that have to be designed manufactured and marketed.
the division is not making less money for the 4th straight quarter, it doesn't work that way, the division is profitable, over 600 million in profits to be exact for the year. They are comparing one 4th quarter to another 4th quarter, one years to another years. After all four quarters in both years compared, there was a profit from the division, but the profit would have been more without the losses. Got it?
their entertainment division includes zune (which has obviously lost money), cell phones (kin), and their gaming division. the xbox brand is the most profitable of the bunch!!
Over the last fiscal year Microsofts E&D division made mor than 600 million $$. Last quarter alone, the KIN fiasco cost them $240 million, and all the R&D for Windows Phone 7 is costing them a lot. After that launch I think we're going to see a lot better performance from Microsoft Entertainment and devices division.
doesn't almost everyone get wood when they see numbers on this web site, especially stuff like this. As if everyone was in the stock market.
I sold MY shares of Microsoft a while ago.
16 billion and still can't lock up exclusives, doesn't buy studios and instead pays millions for DLC lol.
And yet they still making a profit and the 360 still sell without 31 1st party studio, 44 exclusives and super realisic graphics. So I don't understand you comment. Edit: oh I get it. You just need something to complain about.
Simply put, an amazing achievement for MS and the gaming division! While Sony has posted PS3 losses of $5 billion, MS has been posting an overall explosion of EADD profits. Even with increased development and marketing costs for its gaming platforms in the last two quarters, the gaming division has posted a stupendous SIX-FOLD yoy increase in profits for the EADD, at $672 million in profits. So many detractors and naysayers were projecting the decline and demise of the 360, yet 360 sales have increased for the last quarter, even before the effect of 360S and Kinect are felt or taken into account for upcoming quarters. It's going to be so amazing to see the effect of the increased sales dues to 360slim, what with 1000% increased sales in the UK and record setting kinect preorders on Amazon. All evidence is pointing to renewed and sustained 360 profitability and momentum, thanks to these recent technology investments and new sku releases. The last two quarters of investment by MS in its EADD certainly looks set to pay off, both for future quarters and continued year-on-year profitability, that much is clear. On a negative note, I am continually amazed at the number of short-sighted amateurish analysts who have ranted negatively about the 360, even suggesting it was in decline. Simply put, 360 sales are up again and will likely continue to be up, massively, thanks to the slim, just like the ps3 slim effected the same at its release. That is a no brainer. I don't understand how these negative analysts justify their derisive and sour rants, as history shows their predictions have been wrong more often than right, especially with regard to the 360. Getting it wrong more than 50% of the time.... that's worse than throwing darts at a dartboard - worse than random chance! Laughable. The real story is told in the financial reports. A 600% increase in YOY EADD profitability is a bit hard to ignore. Yet some will try. Any angle will do to portray the 360 in a negative light. Anything at all to vent the spleen. It borders on insanity. Is it merely fanboyism or something more?
You are right in everything you said. But more than anything I think you want the PS3 to fail, I don't think you want both consoles to thrive. It seems like (and I may be wrong) that you hate Sony for their losses while I think it's great that they are still swinging. I think MS with their wind to their backs and with huge momentum could capitalise even more by buying up new studios and creating new IP's but instead they are not.
I understand all the talk of sales, because, when you're talking the console war it just comes up. Understandable. But what does this have to do with Video Games? Windows 7? Really? There was only a single sentence that pertains to anything video game wise? =/ why even post this?
What does it have to do with Video Games? MS is in the computer software/hardware business which includes VIDEO GAAAAAAMES! Oh did I happen to mention MS is in the video games business? So to hear that a company that's in the VIDEO GAMES business doing this well is great news. A record 16 Billion is enough to blow minds. Or did you make 16 billion this fiscal year? Cause if you did then yea this wouldn't be news to you.
This is not Gaming news. Knowing about how much they made IS NOT gonna enhance my gaming experience or let me know about any news relevant to the games I plan to purchase on the future etc. All this is... Is a place where fanboys and trolls can have a World War 3 battle about he she said and sales and nonsense that Real gamers don't care about.
In order to be gaming related news, the main article needs to refer to the MS gaming division, windows can be the OS that people use for gaming, but MS don't see any money from PC Gaming, heck, they even killed all their PC devs, so aside from being the OS for gaming, there is no "connection" between PC gaming and windows The article that got more to do with gaming and MS, is the one posted by [Zee] under the [GWAVE] post flagged as Trolling, but I'm not going to link it cos then some crowd will say that I'm trolling...
Golonel Killzone lol your such an hypocrites when theres sony numbers youre up there saying Good for sony etc etc. eff outta with that shit n1gga.
Until I realize its all flamebait. Dude real talk don't call me no fucking nigga. I'm not your friend nor do I care to be. Tired of you little kids on N4G think your so tough behind your keyboards. I swear always gotta see some stupid ass racist or bias comment because I'm black. People like you make me sick. Even on Sony articles its not news its all the same shit. Flamebait and nothing else. And you see me saying it now Sony sales same with Microsoft all flamebait and not gaming news related. And idc if your black white spanish or w.e the fuck you are. Don't ever in your life call me a nigga again. Also its Colonel dumbass. Using that word proves your a dumbass simple as that. Yes I'm a nigga because I'm black. Not all black people condone using that word retard. Future reference watch your mouth on and off the internet then again your probably a punk who comes online and talk shit anyway so who knows.
@ Colonel-Killzone Its only flamebait when fans like you come in here and make it flamebait. Think about it... What if you would of came in here and said: "Wow, that's great news." Instead you come in here with others and start yelling "This isn't about GAMES" or "TROLL" or "Flame Bait" or anything else sparking the fuse for the flame. Before you start pointing fingers look at yourself and ask yourself is it worth starting this war? @ Natsu and Lord Lets keep this civil fellas, I really do hate the "n" word even if you phrase it in the "hip hop" way. Not appropriate in any way.
This is from THE ARTICLE: "1.5 million Xbox 360 consoles sold in the quarter, with over 25 million Xbox Live members total." There's your goddamn gaming news. Read the article instead of laying on your stomach pounding your fists on the floor. :'( you retards should be banned from n4g for trolling, off topic, slander, and just being a complete lazy idiot
Good for MS and there share holders…
Now make more First-Party Studios, or buy EPIC.
There's a few developers that (for the betterment of the games industry) should never be bought by a larger entity. Epic is one of them.
I really hope MS buys Twisted Pixel (The Maw / 'Splosion Man), they have been loyal to the xbox brand and MS could use more good first party studios.
i have not heard of those two games you just said
those are some of the greatest XBL games out there. always count on quality and laughs from Twisted Pixel. Cant wait for Captain Smiley! (i think thats the right name)
Not really anything to do with video games. M$ games division would have had something to do with video games. This has an extremely loose connection, as you could argue Windows 7 is a platform for video games... but that isn't anything in line with this articles topic.
but it don't matter why would i care how much money ms is getting it's not going into my wallet lol.
thats more money then Sony has made in the last 4 years!
More money than Sony, yet Sony is the only one pumping out exclusive after exclusive with all their first party studios...and AAA exclusives at that. Microsoft still has nothing to show for it...just Halo? 16 billion and all they have is Halo? If Sony is making big things and they don't even have half the money their competitor has I can only imagine how much bigger shit would be with that kind of money at their disposal.
Don't you guys get that Office and Win7 alone are the cause of about 80% of the profit MS is making? They are putting their attention to that first, like any company would. I know it is't what most people here would like to see but it's the truth
Just more proof that the economy isnt as "sluggish" as the doom and gloom media would have you believe.. The media just doesnt get it. 6 straight months of private sector job creation, 4 straight quarters GDP growth, a stock market up 30% year to date and corporate america is booming again. Oh well, anything to sell headlines.. oh BTW, Apple is better, they had a better quarter and a record setting quarter. Good for Microsoft shareholders i suppose.
Microsoft makes more net profit (4.5 BILLION) in 3 months than sony makes in 5 years......SIMPLY AMAZING!
Yet, who owns more first party studios, who has more exclusives, AAA's at that? of course, it would seem logical for the 16 billion dollar company to be it...but nope, it's their competitor, the one who you said made less in 5 years lol.
I am not trying to start any bs or anything and I am saying this without malice but all of those first party studios are quite expensive to keep open. If you are not making any money or little there of, how long can you afford to keep their doors open? On another note, I wrote to MS awhile back on them not focusing on first party studios and real exclusives. They wrote back and said that there were a couple of reasons why. 1. They don't want to look bad by gobbling up the competition. (admirable) 2. They thought it would be a better business model to own the IP but have other talented developers work on them. That means that MS has very little overhead, except for advertisement and they excel at that, at times; Halo=phenomenal, Zune=is there still a heartbeat (I personally love the Zune, need to get an HD, have 2 second gens, one 80 gb and one 8 gb. Use one for movies and the other for music.) I have the letter stored somewhere on my Outlook. 2007=sucks, 2010=rocks.
Goes to show, money means more to MS than quality games. They don't want to spend money on first party when they can make more on third party. Instead of a good fix for hardware issues, they make you buy a new version, again and again. Like their operating systems.
and the site is drowning thanks to them This is windows section revenues and not X360 , your X360 will not make as much as quarter of those revenues and before you hurry to disagree button like a programmed robot , argue with me by valid point and states. X360 RROD costed Microsft billions and they admitted that and now they are strugling with PS3 and Nintendo while in OS Market , Microsft dominated the competetion . Linux and MAC aren't much competetior because they don't support much games and productivity software. Windows 7 sold 170 million in less than a year while X360 lifetime sales are nowhere 50 millions. I hate PS3/X360 extreme fanboys.
The only place where Microsoft managed to lose money this quarter was in the Online Services division (read: Bing). But even that's not a cause for serious alarm; Bing's a growth business that grew every month this past year. Thats from the article...did anyone of you Sony loyalists care to read it?
Bing? might have to Google that one...
Because the report is about computer divison WHICH include search services , Hotmail , and other stuff beside Windows of course, X360 ivision is completely another division and get its own report. If not why they didn't include X360s preorders or revenues about the old X360. And anyone that disagree with you is a sony loyalist ? seriuosly . I hate both fanboys crowd.
Sony wish they were as successful as Microsoft. Crap cell phones and in the middle of the pack in tv excellence. Speaking on the gaming division, the 360 has been a wildly successful and profitable gaming machine. On the other hand Sony has lost billions on the ps3. Much more than the original Xbox. Oh how the tables have turned. Sony has been getting its butt kicked left and right this gen. :)
Sony is a hardware... MS has always been bigger than Sony in teh past 20 years. you are simply too limited to understand this is beyond consoles. + this is revenue, not profit. if MS spent 15 billion this year (they didn't, but just by example) then thats 1 billion profit (very little) this has nothing to do with Sony getting their ass kicked since Sony themselves are doing just as fine, so im sorry kid, no party with your little friends today =( Oh and I doubt sony wish they were as successful as MS because where both companies compete (Mobile phones and over all entertainment) Sony actually takes in WAY more revenue. MS takes in revenue from servers, OS and takes least revenue from its entertainment division (which has been threatened to be closed down due to being sh!t) so...you argument is 100% misguided, confused and completely pointless...=P but I expected tat from you, every comment you do you get butt kicked left and right, i feel bad replying now.... dunce.
not bad since they took a beating last year =S no why with so much success don't they invest in first parties and better phone tech?
Isnt this suposed to be N4Gamers?
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