There has been a lot of debate about whether or not Gran Turismo 5 is really a better looking game than Forza 3. Consider the debate over. GT5 without a doubt eviscerates Forza 3. The proof is in the pictures.
Such common sense. GT5 demolishes Forza on every level possible.
Flamebait at its finest
November 2 people Dont act that day No acting ok Do not come here leaving comments swearing that its a simulator. "There has been a lot of debate about whether or not Gran Turismo 5 is really a better looking game than Forza 3." Well this debate have always been bringed by SONY GT fanboys only BUT they never get into the "simulation" the way they do it about the graphics.
"well this debate have always been bringed by SONY" Great english there, great english!!!!!!! LOL
Lol it doesnt demolish Forza in all areas, customization and online play is areas where it does not. Pretty poor considering in the time its been developed there have been 2 Forza games released and its catching up to the franchise extremely fast.
Seriously this will be the first full retail gran turismo that will have online.. Polyphony has managed to implement 16 player online races.. Don't see forza doing that. Your only valid point is the customization.. But not everyone is into that so if you like it then great play forza but I play racing games to uhh i dunno..RACE! Lol wow turn 10 made two games in 4 years. Your point is? Forza 2 looked like ass and played like ass.. Forza 3 was the only decent release in the series and it still doen't look as good as gtp let alone gt5...
How the hell would you know when the game isnt even out yet?
I agree with PSNTomaz. You all say GT5 is so amazing and rapes Forza3 in the ass, but lets face it, you've never played GT5, I've never played GT5 and none of us will until release. All this bull shit talk is annoying the hell out me. Hey guys... Do you know Halo: Reach owns the hell out of Killzone3? How do I know that you may ask? Well, here's the thing, I'm using the same magic ball as your all doing. I'm as optimistic for GT5 as the rest of you guys, but when it comes down to it, I guess I'm more of a racing fan than most people on this website, sure you all act like you love racing games but really the only reason your loving GT5 is because its PS3 exclusive, it makes me sad to see how lame some people are. A fan of real racing games would play Forza and appreciate it for what it is, a good fkin game, but no... You all continue to bash a good game just because it isn't GT5. Get a life, seriously you fkin retards, none of you are fans of racing games, just love to troll!
but gt5 just has so much passion and quality put into it i just cannot ignore that i'm just a long time gamer lol.
people who don't owned a PS3 are so insecure about a game for the PS3?
Why are people who do own a PS3 so insecure about a game that hasn't come out yet for the PS3????
That's a stupid question. How can people who owns a PS3 be insecure of a game which isn't release yet?
Considering PD's track record (pun intended), It's pretty safe to say that it will be the best driving sim at release. But logically speaking, I haven't played it, so who knows. Either way i feel this will be the best sixty bucks spent in a long time. --see you on the track.
Next gen don't start till Sony says it does.
This has already been established. This generation of gaming started in November of 2006.
Wow opium, you're highly upset. Calm down, it's not like they're insulting your beliefs or anything.
How can we tell your speaking he truth about not being upset through a computer? Works both way's, don't cry.
Without a doubt it is no competition. Kinda silly there is even a debate. Then again I guess all the noise is 360 fans trying to make themselves feel better. Everyone else can see it plain as day.
Although I'm not gonna buy it, I gotta admit that it does looks really good.
the last two pictures explain it all. GT5's Lamborghini is gorgeous looking. Compare that to Forza's Lamborghini. Looks like it needs a good polish..
i think we don't need to discuss this,GT owns ALLLLLL driving simulations out there,and probably will own till GT 6!!!
also this game is epic,sry for doubple post
if u bash forza 3, 360 fanboys will bash something else. So STFU and forza 3 is a pretty awesome game
in this playground is not to let us play? Forza 3 is a great game but i don't see the point in suggesting that we stop an n4g discussion? If you don't want to take part in this then don't.
Wow, that was one of the best burns ever. Very blunt.
If you read what he/she wrote he/she said bashing not discussing, two very different things. on topic: GT5 looks great visually so much detail in the vehicles. I see your point
When did i say anything about discussing? I refered to "n4g discussion" which is in fact bashing On Topic: PD always tries to polish everything
No they won`t. Even the most hardcore 360 only fans love Gran Turismo 5. GT5 transends fanboyism.
Of course it does. Forza 3 looks a little cartoony in my opinion. Remember the GT5 E3 2010 trailer when it showed the Top Gear test track? I thought it was real life In case you have forgotten go to 1:06
Its amazing that on the Top Gear track, its reference to this episode. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Really?? posting shitty low res pictures for a comparison?
I know cobraagent, i did a double take myself. Looks awesome.
everytime i hear gt5 sony twats always put down forza leave it out... its a good game... and probably has way better customisation features then GT on the other note... if it wasnt a better game then forza after such a long development period id feel let down
Unfortunatly It isnt SONY thats always puting it down. Its Journalist!!
GT5 fans wouldnt be like these if Turn 10 werent such douchebags, but if they werent such douches GT5 fans and car enthusiasts probably won't even look twice at their game.
an honest gamer would have to agree and I so much LOL at those now talking about the long development cycle spin..... psst..forget about Alan Wakes development cycle....LMAO...
and mole rat meat are Dee-lish!!!
ehh it's okay. I like strange meat and mirelurk cakes better.
Turn 10 won't even consider releasing Forza 4 until the next Xbox is released.
They're developing a Kinect version.
That version will be a whisper in the wind and I assure you that Turn 10 does NOT want anyone thinking that it will be a full fledged Forza 3 successor. More like Forza 3 with Kinect tacked on as an option.
it woud be very sad if GT5 woud not be good after 5 Years of development.
So now long development time = great game? Hmmm... Not true at all bro. More polished maybe but not better. It's the developers that make great games.
that is always the go to excuse for 360 fanboys to use in defense of their lack luster games. funny how they forget too human took 10 years and is the worst game this gen. gt5 will be better because it has the better dev by far, the better hardware by far and was not rushed like other games.
^ forgets about 2 Human and Alan Wake where long and I mean long development cycles didnt matter that much
Really...? Too Human took that long to bring out. Ah I remember playing that game, shit was alright until you died. Then that valkarie comes down every single time to revive you. I just couldn't do it. Never finished that game, though it had a nice story behind it. It was crappy though. Speaking of a crappy game, anyone try Damnation?
Wow Flam bait title or what? Desperately needing hits I see. I don't think ANYONE has doubted GT5's visual superiority. But graphics only help with the submersion in the game. Gameplay is and has always been more important than graphics. And right now from what I have read, the features in GT5 don't match Forza's on a Sim like level. Looking forward to what features will actually be in the game once it's released.
Wait, what? the feature list for GT5 is a LOT better than Forza3's. All F3 has over GT5 is ;paint and customisation and without weather most of that is entirely pointless as far as racing goes. I'll take day/night and dynamic weather as things every sim should have this gen and as F3 had neither I was very disappointed. Esp when T10 used the term "definitive" so much. I like Forza as a series but them behaving as they did meant there was no way I would buy their third installment and without features I think should really be in there this gen i don't feel I'm missing out much. We'll have to see if the weather makes it into GT5 as IMO it's the single most important thing in racing games that we really need-it's a real game changer in real life and should be in games too. Seriously, ifGT5 doesn't pull it off either what were they all thinking? I'd rather fewer pixels and more rain!!!
@mastiffchild Just because GT5 has Nascar or Rally or weather doesn't make it a feature. it's still just racing using a different car. I am talking about REAL features. Like TOTAL customization. TOTAL control of tuning every aspect of the car. Modifying the aerodynamics by adding and removing kits which makes a difference in control and car performance. GT5 has "some" damage and depending on the car and what "group" of cars that car is under. Forza as damage on ALL cars cosmetic AND mechanical. GT5 does not. I am talking about REAL features. Weather means nothing to me if I want a true driving sim. Playing PGR proved this as most people played without any kind of weather except for the sunny day setting. I will take full damage on cosmetic and mechanical with FULL range of tuning and customization on my car than weather ANY DAY of the year. If you think a true "sim" is because weather has been added over the features that I described Forza 3 has, than you have a very distorted view on what makes a sim a sim. I am sorry mastiffchild but GT5 falls short, as we know so far, in the driving "sim" category.
hey THE MAXX (i love the maxx...one of my favorite comics ever) on topic: i totally agree with you...but dont waste your time,i tried before to make them understand that forza3 is by far the best sim on console right now and the only thing we know right now is that GT5 will be better on graphics...we dont know about physics,features and every other stuff... but we all know how fanboys think...in fact they just dont!! i've preordered GT5 a long time ago and i really hope it'll be better than forza3...like i'll hope forza4 will be better than GT5! why?..because i'm a racing sim fan...and i always want better sim! i could'nt care less about wish console its on....thats so retard
Can't wait to see Gran Turismo 5. IMO Forza has a great online community, in terms of the designs and tuning setups also a few things I checked out on their forums. Nevertheless GTPlanet is a superb community for the Gran Turismo series for years. EDIT: For your information of the games I played through out the years *GT1 *GT2 *GT3 *GT4 Concept *GT4 *GT5 Prolouge *Forza 3
both look virtually the same, especially on such small pictures. Love forza though, never got on with GT. Why has it taken them sooooo loooonnngg to make the game anyway. Everyone is saying GT5 will be better than forza 3, It's bound to be they taken long enough.
Polyphony Digital are top class developers. They aren't in the business of releasing games every 1-2 year with minor tweaks/upgrades. There's a reason why Gran Turismo is the most successful driving simulator franchise of all time.
GT5 will no doubt be a great driving simulator, but what I find so hard to believe is that so many people are driving simulator fans. Both games are/will be great though if its your cup of tea, judging by reviews and hype. The real winners are those who played Forza the past few years and will buy GT5 later this year as well.
It's not so much that people are driving simulator fans, it's that people are Gran Turismo fans. Gran Turismo's sales really don't match it's genre, at all. It does insane numbers, but that's because of its wide appeal amongst car enthusiasts. It practically captured that market on its own. Forza is only relevent because it's all the rival console has, but it's never been anywhere near Gran Turismo from a sales perspective.
Are you playing sales? Maybe gt sells on ps because that's all that the ps really has racing sim wise...
How is Thm playing sales? He was pointng out that GT5 just bucks the trend in it's genre as far as sales go. He didn't say those sales=quality or anthing of the sort. there's a difference between mentioning a successful sales history and bigging up a game's quality because of it. Fact is he was only saying that GT5 will sell well, and in the numbers of the earlier games because people love it. For instance, I lke Halo and have bought all the FPS games barring ODST but I wouldn't claim all it's sales were making it the BEST FPS out there. No, like GT it started at a good moment for itself and for it's platform. Both games are wildly successful but don't owe their success solely to their own quality but also to being synonymous with their platform and as such their sales aren't tied, totally, to their performance within their genre. Both are REASONS people buy a PS or Xbox and only a vast slump in quality will ever change that. The FPS genre beng a much more popular one than the car sim just makes the sales GT manages all the more incredible and comparing other driving sims sales wise is even less meaningful. People think of GT when they think of driving sims, they think of GT when they think of PS and so on. the sales of Forza are more in line with what a good quality driving sim should be getting but so many people who won;t buy another racing game will buy GT5 that it isn't funny. In short Thom wasn't playing sales but when you talk about GT as a series it's the sales which are uncommonly amazing and dictate they should be talked about. The first GT games impressed so many new PS1 gamers that they still stand by the game today even when the genre it spawned doesn't EVER reach similar figures anywhere else. He wasn't saying F3 was sh1t because it didn't get GT sales at all merely saying that GT sales are so big they make little sense within the genre. I'd argue it's for VERY similar reasons to the way Halo holds such sway over the Xbox community myself. Some games are just THAT tied to the platforms that host them and should the FPS decrease n poularity I imagine you would stll see massive Halo sales on whatever the Xbox of the time is called and the same goes for GT and PS. Where I slightly move away from Thom is that I think a lot of GT fans aren't even that big car enthusiasts and as such really ARE GT fans OR came to cars via the series. I think it's just as likely for someone to like GT because they like their PS gaming as it is for them to like it because the're bang into cars. Forza, on the other hand, relies entirely on those people who like cars and own a 360 and a lot of car enthusiasts were certainly bagged by GT AND PS a long while back-it really is a system seller. Again, much in the same vein as Halo in that it surpasses it's genre.
Thank you, You captured exactly what Bzone24 was trying to say. GT is a personification of the system. Just like Halo, FF(before it switched). Games so engrained in the system it sells the system. I know I'm not really in to cars, but I'm also picking up GT5 day one. I've played the previous games, and they never fail to impress.
Word, Mastiff. People were grasping at "It does insane numbers" but didn't really understand what Thom was trying to say. There is a huge cult following for GT, regardless of your system preferences or whatnot. I'm a GT fan for very different reasons than my being a fan of other titles in the genre (R4's my good old favorite) - the customization of what's under the hood and the seemingly visceral difference those customizations create on the road have always been enjoyable for me in GT. This held true for me even during the PS1 days, and there's not nearly enough space to actually "simulate" those subtle differences you make on PS1. It's just the awesome illusion that I'm actually tinkering with an extremely expensive car that I love. You know, because I don't have a jillion dollars to do that IRL.
It's not fair to compare a game that was released a year ago? and a game that hasn't even been released. Still, It seems clear GT5 will be the best driving game to date.
the trolls at Turn 10. Tell them not to bash the competition.
ps3 ftw.. this is the power of our amazing ps3's! **** xbox 360 to hell.. and forza
This is the 2nd story that this site have used for hits - The last story claimed to offer new info on GT5 damage system and yet.. didnt. Its a bull$hit argument also - I couldnt give a $hit what title is better - The two games can co-exist in this universe, im ok with that!! They are both good games, seriously people dont waste your time and energy (like i have) responding to this rubbish. Cant wait for November!!!!!!
Really? The pictures don't seem to show a noticeable difference between the two. I'm sure that the graphics geeks will spew digits in my face saying otherwise, but at the end of the day Forza 3 excels on all fronts, as I'm sure GT5 will do.
This isn't a flame reply or meant to be disrespectful but at least to me there is a clear difference. Gran turismo just has a clean bright look to it. All of the cars truly look photorealistic in gt5, my experience with forza 3 is that you get hi res visuals everywhere except in a race.. I dont know why that is but in a race everything looks low res and "dirty".
Yeah, I don't see that big of a difference either.
Prefer not to fan the flame but yes, yes it does. Whether anyone admits it or no matter how much everyone criticises it for being late, it is a sight to behold for anyone.