Bryan Rouse tries to figure out what Sony's strategy is for the Move.
Someone didn't like the move.
MOVE will be just as big a success as the PSP GO!
KINECT will be just as big a success as Windows Vista and Zune! Sarcasim =/
@Spawn-KING No! kinect will be just as big as kin http://n4g.com/news/554937/... O-T "Bryan Rouse [tries to figure out] what Sony's strategy is for the Move" Hmmm... If at this point you don't get it, better quit...
I hope the Move does well. From a purely objective standpoint (based on tech demos, hands-on experience, etc), it is clear that Move is the most accurate motion-based controller on the console market. It can do more than the Wiimote, and it can certainly do more than Kinect. And it is being supported by core 1st, 2nd, and 3rd party studios, so when Move launches I can play real games, not yet another motion-based bowling game.
I think Move is doing things right, when it comes to the tech and games.
PlayStation Move is Here to Stay, it works flawless with any kind of game, it'll bring more Genres that didn't work as good with the normal controller, like RTS Games, its precision is Great, the Support for Move is Great and it'll have innovative games that can't be played as well without Move, like http://www.youtube.com/watc...
How people think Kinect is at all better than Move is beyond me.
well played....well played good sir
i like it
It will do fine.
Its the Wii HD... Finally four years down the line Sony has decided to dust the cob webs off of Move and release it right. Instant success. Now, the only problem is trying to figure out what Nintendo has coming next...but Sony is probably already working on that...Right!!!
Well i'd rather Sony spend time on their hardware to get rid of the problems way before release, rather than releasing hardware that is going to fail, you know like the Xbox 360.
you would never have see Move if the Wii hadnt been as successful as it has been. The same goes for Kinect. Though M$ is going out on a limb with that device..very risky!!! Kinect- Risky PSMove- WiiHD Might be to late for PSMove. A similar product called the Wii, has been on the market for nearly 4 years. Nothing more to offer other that slightly better accuracy and a few hardcore games that will look good. Kinect though not as accurate as Move, looks futuristic and new. No controller is required and you can talk to it. Joe Shhmoe is gonna eat that up. Not to mention the $299 Kinect bundle will sell like Hotcakes or Ramen Noodles, depending on where you are. Seriously: Seems like Sony is hoping that their core install base will buy Move and also hope to draw in a few new comsumers with it. Where Microsoft is going soley for the causal market with kinect(what a stupid name) and could care less if their core install base picks one up.
I see your main point for defending Kinect is that it's new, and i'm not gonna start going on about Kinect being an Eyetoy clone because it's not. But just because it's new tech doesn't mean they are brave or doing a better job than anyone else, you can see from the Kinect videos that the tech just isn't ready yet. The concept of controlling games via full body motion control is insane, but that's all it is at the moment, just a concept. That's how Microsoft will market Kinect, they will tell people that it's a revolution in gaming, people will believe them and go out and buy it. Sony on the other hand have done it differently and taken a small but rather important step in motion gaming, precision is the most important part of being immersed into a game, especially when you're using motion controls. Once we have a camera that can track full body movements precisely, then we can get rid of the control all together and start actually gaming without a controller, not swinging our arms around playing casual games.
Stop calling it a wii hd.. Its clearly more then just an hd mock up of the wii.. Move has advantages that place it above and beyond that of the wii.. First of all the amount of power on tap with the ps3 will allow for games that wii gamers dream of. Add to that the fact that move is more precise with true 1:1 tracking as well as depth of field sensing and you have a level of emersion that just isnt possible on the wii... Kinect is one of those ideas that sounds fantastic but in practice so far has been a big let down.. Microsoft cant seem to deliver on the promises of last year's e3 while making it cost effective. So that technology is still a few years from being implemented properly. There's a reason that sony and nintendo both turned down the tech behind kinect years ago..
'' by mistake Sony wasn't trying to be coy about what their focus is with the Move, a blatant Wii-mote knockoff. '' http://www.gamesradar.com/p... http://ps3.nowgamer.com/vid... The Catalog of games supported for Move, it is more than 40 Games. Including Hardcore. According to this Article, Move it is the same like Wii Motion Plus in HD. Which is not entirely true. Wii doesn't have even Z axis. And doesn't have the precision as Move.
Don't even bother, whenever an article like this pops up and someone posts these videos, they're just ignored.
They're not ignored. It's just Wii owners have actually used the wii remote with M+ so they know how it works. Then some Sony clown who hasnt comes along and posts these videos that shows nothing to Wii owners except they are right that its what they have seen all along. Also Sorry but the Wii remote tracks all 3 axis x,y and z.
Clearly it's coming from Sony, so I guess its a biased source, but according to the chart they released, the Wii only does X,Y axis tracking http://dualshockers.com/201... Charts like these can lead to skewing the facts your way (MS including the WiiFit as a necessary accessory in their chart for instance), but I don't think Sony would just flat out lie if it was common industry knowledge that Nintendo in fact does XY and Z tracking
So this guy is basing his opinion that Sony doesn't know how to market the move off one poor experience? What about all those articles from people using Kinect with Macy's with the cameras set up at poor angles and uninterested MS employees too busy checking their phones to help out the gamers? Sony's marketing the Move as the Wii, done right, with depth perception and 1:1 movement with HD visuals and the power of the PS3/Blu-Ray and 3D behind it. Don't see what the confusion is. Also, Dr. Marks said he enjoys seeing his competitors do new things? Isn't he aware that Greenberg is out for BLOOD!?!?!
Heh, another one of those: If you repeat lies enough time it becomes true.
Games, funnily enough. Doesn't seem like anyone else has any intention for motion controlled gaming to have actual videogames instead of simulations.
itl do fine it is the most accurate but the general public doesnt care about best graphics or accuracy. The wii sold depite being last gen tech and genrally clumbsy. The ps3 is far better than a wii but is in last. I think kinect is going to sell because its easy its just you no buttons this or that. It limits the game types but joe smoes dont care, its easy and fun. Move will sell to console owners but wont sell consoles. Id buy it if i had a ps3 but really id rather just buy a wii. I guess they should go after core which is what i see them doing but that doesnt get the "wii" masses interested which is needed to fight kinect. what to do...
I think the issue I have with Move is that the most interesting Move games so far are games you can enjoy without Move, such as Killzone and SOCOM. Seems a lot better value to buy a Wii instead to enjoy all the amazing Wii exclusives as well as those Move games, just with a DualShock. That's how I see it at least.
move might take off!
hardcore will like it.. especially those with wii experience.. wii is awesome but its graphics and tethered controller is underwhelming. so a ps3 version of the wii is exciting not so much i think for casual market..
You can tell that this article is written by a nintendo fanboy if he starts the article off by saying that the nintendo conference at e3 was amazing, and that the 3DS is a revolution, and that the playstation move is like the wii. The playstation move will be a success for the crowd it is aimed for, which is the core and semi-casual. It is not a rushed product, Sony took their time to make this. Bravo to Sony for making a practical and efficient joypad alternative. P.S. Thumbs up if you think M4G should contain News not opinions. I'm tired of being taken to articles written by fanboys
I love Sony fanboys. They only think N4G should have opinion pieces when they are FOR Sony. Anytime they are not, its FUD and flamebait. Sorry your butthurt, but Nintendo DID have an amazing E3, get over it.
You sound a bit butthirt there mate. Step away from the keyboard
FYI Richard Marks said himself that Sony was experimenting on motion controls at least 10 years ago. So it negates the 'Wii rip off' arguement that the scared fanboys keep insisting on mentioning. Also why does everyone keep listening to these kind of articles? What the hell is so confusing? You buy the Move and camera, set up the cam put in the game, play games for hardcore and casual With Kinect, who is it for again? First it was for casual, then it is for hardcore, then it's for kids, then it's for both, then you have to have 6 foot space between Kinect and you which is still not enough space to play, you have to wear tight,short clothes to play, you play controllerless until you nee a controller, it can scan multiple people but you can only play two at a time, no hardcore games until a year and a half ,even something I heard that says it can't play full four player unless you have 2 Kinects, 2 Xboxs and 2 TVs. And the Move is confusing? Stop listening to these game media idiots stirring up trouble.
Experimenting is a far cry from developing a system completely around them and putting all your eggs in the motion control basket. MS had a PC motion controller long before either one of them for that matter. Nintendo had the guts to design and market a completely motion controlled system. That took balls. Sony and MS both now want to grab a piece of the pie that Nintendo has trailblazed. They are both a couple sorry ass losers for doing this. After years of mocking the Wii as a gimmick and a toy I guess they got their asses kicked bad enough they have to go crawling into the motion market.
Because including blu-ray wasn't a MASSIVE risk for Sony. You're a freakin' genius.
No he is just a troll
During the beginning parts I was fumbling around with the Navigation Controller (like a Wii Nunchuck) and the representative looked at me puzzled and asked, "You've played with a Wii-mote right?" I nodded my head, as I had just finished Super Mario Galaxy 2. With my acknowledgment, he then replied, "Okay, it's just like that, treat it like a Wii-mote". I was too occupied with the game to reflect on the statement at the time, but afterward I realized that either intentionally or by mistake Sony wasn't trying to be coy about what their focus is with the Move, a
I am sorry 360Defender did you say that we faboys think that N4G should only be for Sony articles? It was just a short time ago that almost every other article on this site was a bunch of flamebat BS about Sony quitting, 'Sony is doomed' and Sony is third place. In fact they still have them right now. People like you seem to have short memories like the people who pretend that the Xbox didn't exist and didn't fail. And all of you were there trolling every article agreeing and laughing and jeering at us PS3 owners. So don't pretend that you all are suddenly logical and reasonable with this N4G is a PS3 fan site. Sony was working on motion control for at least 10 years, they didn't just get up one year and say 'hey lets rip off Nintendo' as fearful fanboys seem to think they did. So grow up and let it go.
Anyone who has played both Move and Kinect wants Move more. That is a fact.
Let's face it, Move is a more accurate Wii Mote. You can't get away from that fact just as Kinect is a more accurate PS eye toy.
Move is everything the wii should have been.. Thats whats fact. Its sad that the only argument anyone has against move is to call it a wii knock off when its so much better then a wiimote..
only idiots will fall for the hype effect of kinect, move is the real deal all the experts already say it is the most precise controller, you all should not support kinect, it will only encourage other companies to make flawed products, instead reward peripherals that actually do work and bring something new to the industry (i.e. move)
Sony passed on the Kinect idea and said looks cool, but has so much limitations. Sony even went and got some developers to make some good looking core games for it. They took the risky approach and went for what works best, and that's PS Move. I got all 3 systems and even though PS Move looks similar to Wii, I think it's more advanced. Wii uses In-fared technology and PS Move uses the camera and the sphere to track it in 3D space.
Guided and awesome. Or by the looks of it at least.
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