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Why is the Xbox 360 Still Outselling PS3 in North America?

PS3 Informer writes:

"Sony has had a tremendous year with its Playstation 3 console. Thanks to a renewed marketing push, a series of blockbuster exclusives and a very strong E3 conference, the company looks set to dominate retail once again in this console generation. But despite all of the great headlines, why do sales of the PS3 continue to lag behind Microsoft's arguably under-powered console? (PS3, Xbox 360)

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knightdarkbox  +   1520d ago
Because it offers more that the consumer wants than the competition does.
Do you really think Americans buy on console's nationality? The reason is the 360 is cheap has a famous online service and lots of best exclusives in the market and multi-plats (Multiplat games tend to perform better in 360) that cater for both hardcore and casual markets.
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Poseidon  +   1520d ago
love the flamibait title/s
1.360 had a headstart a whole year ahead of ps3 in america, one year and 6 months in europe.

2. the lead between the 360 was 8-9 million.

3. in 3 years the lead is 4-5 million.

who is outselling who?
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FishCake9T4  +   1520d ago
@1 "lots of best exclusives"
It has one exclusive called Halo which a stereo-typical American gamer worships.
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candystop   1520d ago | Trolling | show
Chubear  +   1520d ago | Well said
remember when the 360 got to the famous "10million mark! we win this gen!" spot and the PS3 was barely at 1mill? oh how I remember so many PS gamers ridiculed, mocked and banned from many gaming forums when we would say "just wait and see"

at this point in the PS2/Xbox competition, the had PS2 launched a year ahead of the xbox and had 5x more exclusives and games and sold 4x the # of units (E.g 2004 PS2 over 80mill sold/xbox just over 20mill sold)

Same situation this gen but with 360 launching 1yr-1.5yr ahead of the PS3 (4x less exclusives and 5mill units ahead instead of 60mill). The ship has sunk and the survivors are simply treading water to hold on a little longer; Let those with eyes see.
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I_find_it_funny  +   1520d ago
Because Americans are blinded by Halo and Gears?
Redrum059  +   1520d ago
It's because many Americans fall for xboxlive Justin beiber Ads.
I hate Justin beiber.
StbI990  +   1520d ago
Because the majority of americans which believe in microsoft are all sheeps...

Shame on me I bought an xbox, but I love it so...no pro of being a sheep lol.
xxLuckyStrike   1520d ago | Trolling | show
Cold 2000  +   1520d ago
Like a guy in the article said: simply because power isnt all that counts.Period.
Aquanox  +   1520d ago
This has to be the poorest written article I had the pitty of reading in a while. The guy doesn't raise a single point, he only throws a couple of quotes and unsubstantial bold claims and finishes the article all of the sudden. Poor.
rockleex  +   1520d ago
Lets pretend that the PS3 will stay at $299 till the end of time.
Lets pretend that Sony won't make a slimmer PS3 down the road to cut down costs even more.

Lets forget that the PS3 is currently the only console that DOESN'T have a $199 model.
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Hideo_Kojima  +   1520d ago
i know one thing...

offer me a 360S and double the number of games i have for my PS3 and all my games and I still won't take the deal...

Has it sold more... I dunno.

Would I rather have one?

Hell no.
alb1899  +   1520d ago
what about mass effect and gears of war........are this no good exclusive!
Awesome_Face  +   1520d ago
Why? Because it is so much better. That's like saying why is the Zune selling more than an cassette player.
ShinMaster  +   1520d ago
Does it matter???
I've been enjoying the PS3 much more because it has many more things called GAMES!

@Guntrol
Exactly!
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Mmmkay  +   1520d ago
@alb1899
mass effect and gears of war are great PC EXCLUSIVES...

see what I did there..
Boody-Bandit  +   1520d ago
"Why is the Xbox 360 Still Outselling PS3 in North America?"
In this horrible economy? Easy, price.

The PS3 has a base price MSRP of $299.99.
You can get a 360 unit under $200 with bundled games, controllers and other offers. Now that the S model launched you can get a 360 for $149. Some of which are in insane bundle deals where you are practically getting a 360 for free. Or content for free. <- take your pick.

I personally picked up 2 new arcade (Jasper) models from Walmart December 09. If you take away the gift card and all the games and content it came with (additional controller, XBL Gold, games) I only paid $24 dollars for the 360.

But I am sure people will just htink I am trolling just like when I said I purchased 8 360 units this generation, still currently own 5 and provided a picture for proof.

Here I will do it again.
http://n4g.com/comments/rel...

I have said it before this generation even got off that the sweet spot is $199. Some say Sony can't afford to hit that price in 2010. I think they will. Although GT5 will give Sony a significant boost at the end of 2010 so they could easily hold off till next year. Sony has always said this is a marathon not a sprint. They are not in this to appease fanboys. They are in it to make money.
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darkride66  +   1520d ago | Intelligent
Not much of an article.
I was hoping to read some insight into why North America the 360 is still able to outsell the PS3 while the rest of the world board the PS3 train long ago, but there is no such insight here. I've only got the one bubble so I won't be able to take part in any debate that goes on, but I'd love to read some of your serious thoughts as to why the US still sticks behind the 360. I'm an older Canadian gamer and I don't really know anyone personally with a 360. The people I talk to are also just as mystified as I am as to why the 360 still sells in the US.
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36T  +   1520d ago
Darkride. You're a canadian gamer and you don't know anybody with a 360? lmao! You must not have very many friends my man. If the rest of the world is boarding the PS3 train i would love for you to PM me a link please. You ask for insight as to why the 360 is selling more in America and then go on to talk BS without providing your own. The people you talk to are your two imaginary friends that sit on each of your shoulders telling you what you want to hear. The US sticks to buying the 360 because it's better. It doesn't get much more complicated then that. You want reasons? Do a damn survey.
MysticStrummer  +   1520d ago
Nevermind those statistics. The world is not the world... or something. As someone below said, "the market has spoken". Yes... yes it has, and it continues to speak. You can't talk about sales numbers and ignore the vanishing lead. You just can't. Sorry. I can read these comments for days, hearing about the superiority of the 360 and XBL, but it doesn't change what happened with every single one of my friends. They couldn't wait to get PS3s so they got 360s. Now none of them have 360s. They all have PS3s, they are all happy with the switch, and none of them think XBL is worth paying for. Mind you, these are gamers in their 20s and 30s with plenty of disposable income. The biggest factor going for the 360 in the US is preteen/teen peer pressure. That one year head start, combined with the PS3's launch price and peer pressure, meant that the next waves of people who bought new consoles went with the 360 for the most part. Another culprit was the general lack of quality PS3 exclusives during the first year or so of it's existence, so then you had the cheaper price, peer pressure, and more games factors going for the 360. Last but not least is the misguided patriotism of Americans. They would rather buy an inferior product from a US based company. Once the PS3 began to have demonstrably better exclusives, along with multiplats that for the most part have to be compared side by side to see a difference, along with price drops, along with the features that made it better all along, it started to sell better in the US. The peer pressure and misguided patriotism factors are still there though.
sikbeta  +   1520d ago
x360 sales are cos:

1· Hardware problems
2· Piracy
3· Ban-waves
4· lower price

The "gap" is because:

1· it has 1 year in the market alone + 6 months in Europe
2· it has a lower price considering it's an HD-console
3· in the beginning is wasn't a "3 years warranty" so people who got f*cked up, needed to bought another x360 or even more than [1] and MS don't give you a "3 years warranty" cos they're the Goods, a class action was in the corner, so they had to implement it to avoid the lawsuits
4· Piracy is rampant, smart pirates have [2] x360, one for playing on-line and a moded one to play illegal copies DD from Thepiratebay and other P2P "services"
5· dumb pirates are cheap enough to play on-line with their modded consoles, so when ban-waves screw-up their consoles, they don't have other choice than buy a new x360, they're not going to switch to other Console brand knowing they already DD loads of illegal games and the other HD-Console = The PS3 CAN'T be pirated

It's just a matter of time for the "gap" to disappear, the FIRST step without of doubts is GT5, after that, Sony can lower the Price and a PS3 @ $200 will be unstoppable...
DERKADER  +   1520d ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
They're out in full force. They don't even know how stupid they sound when they try and argue this meaningless article that has no impact on gaming what so ever.

They=Fanboy
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pain777pas  +   1520d ago
The truth is at retail you were discouraged from the retailers that there was nothingto play on the PS3 and should not be purchased. Many were told this especially at Gamestop. It may seem minor but word can travel and the American industry was exclaim this from every site. This was tacticle brainwashing 101 now we have fanboy zombies all over the place. Love games and get over the hardware debate. PS3 is for me for its well rounded lineup. The problem is that the only games that 360 had at that time was Gears and Oblivion. The latter was a launch title and arguably still the best RPG this gen. Nothing to play? They played down Resistance only to turn around and praise it for its at the time large multiplayer battles. The PS3 was undermined by the media even till this day but now what do you see? The PS3 is a price drop away from domination. The industry refuses to say that they were wrong not knowing that publishers did not release games on the PS3 because there was a line drawn that in America we'll do as the Japanese have always done ignore "foreign" hardware. The truth is how many of us avoid tons of American tech because they don't make quality products starting with motor vehicles. Look 360 was a bad deal from the beginning so many add-ons, hidden fees for basic functionality, and buying exclusives like GTA 4 and FF13. If your a former PS2 guy and now an Xbox fan you were bought. We all have a price.
morkendo  +   1520d ago
@ darkrider66
I live in north america none of my friends own a 360 niether do I. as you said I dont understand why more U.S. gamers not owning a ps3 yet is beyond me???
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tordavis  +   1520d ago
Sega Dreamcast had a year head start too. What happened after PS2 came out? It completely outsold the installed base of the Dreamcast.
IHateYouFanboys  +   1520d ago
@Poseidon:

in the USA, the 360s lead over the PS3 has INCREASED since the PS3 launched, so the whole 'headstart' thing holds no merit.

the 360 outsells the PS3 in the USA because, like knightdarkbox said, it offers the consumers what they want at a lower price than the competition. online gaming is huge in the US, and Live is a better system than the PSN. every game uses the integrated Live features for invites and chat, and it all works as it should. theres also more people playing online on the 360, and more of them have headsets.

believe it or not, the majority of game players dont care if the PS3 plays blu-ray movies, or if game X is "only" 715p instead of 720p, or how many jiggawatts sony say the Cell is capable of spitting out. they care about the games, and the price. and with 99% of the games being on both consoles, and one console being $100 cheaper, they choose the cheaper console.

the reality is that for this generation, the USA has spoken about which console is the winner to them - its the 360. the PS3 is not going to overtake the 360 in america. 4 years in and the 360 is still increasing its lead.

and look, even though the PS3 is outselling the 360 worldwide, its not doing it at a fast enough rate to rattle microsoft. its pulled back, what, 4 million in 4 years? not exactly quick. maybe in another 3-4 years it will overtake the 360 worldwide, but by then we'll be on the 360s successor and not giving 2 $hits what the 360 and PS3 are doing.
badz149  +   1520d ago
@tordavis
u do know the difference between the DC and 360, right? the biggest problem with DC at that time was no EA support and EA was the biggest publisher at that point of time! and DC was supposedly hard to developed for and it uses the nontraditional CD format but the 360 is "easy" to developed for based on what most devs said and uses the conventional DVD. this is the other reason 360 =/= DC.

OT, the article is utterly useless as no valid point was raised with proof. for me personally, 360 offers the best deal and XBL is in full force in NA with lots and lots of contents offering unlike XBL in other countries although they all basically paying the same! so, Americans get the most of the annual fee of $50 compared to other gamers overseas maybe except Japan but we know it's not selling too well over there. the same can be said with PSN but hey, it's a free service so, although I'm not from NA, I'm not complaining.
Dee_91  +   1520d ago
Anybody heard of marketing ?
You know .. the things companies use to sell their products?

turn on tv and compare the amount of xbox360 commercials to ps3 commercials .. the only playstation related commercials lately are the Step you game up " ones which are psp

i see new multiplat games coming soon commercials with a x box symbol at the end of the commercial on almost 80% of them

xbox have good marketing

has nothing to do with with the xbox "offering more " than the ps3 because it can only take a quick google search to know which one offer the most
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memots  +   1520d ago
Just a reply
About those 10 years old on xbox live. What i find the most shocking is when all these kids are playing Rated M games..

Then we wonder why this nation is going down the drain....
BWS1982  +   1520d ago
@IHateYouFanboys
Thank you for providing me with that stark reminder of why the rest of the world hates me simply for being an American, your predominantly pretentious post does nothing to rid the world of that stereotype. Thanks a million.

You don't speak for me, and I bought a PS3 FIRST, long ago, and because it WAS cheaper, for what I needed to get. I liked its games more. I liked its features more. And I didn't want to deal with RRoD crap. Not worth my time: Time is money, again, financial reasons.

I WANTED blu-ray, I wanted "jiggawatt" output (really dude?)...You can talk about you and the statistical majority, or you and your circle of friends, but cut the crap about "America wants this" and "America has spoken"...Your the last guy I'd vote for in any sort of election. Denied.

America most often has a "go with what is popular" mechanism in place (iPod, the Wii, SUV's, etc..) and because 360 kicked off this gen and kicked it cheaper, it's been a snowball effect since. Word of mouth. "so and so has Live" and "I can play with all my friends, they have LIVE" and "mommy, Timmy has a 360, I want one". It's also, as mentioned a little above, a huge factor of marketing. MS markets the HELL out of the 360 here in "the homeland" and until a couple months ago, I saw 1 PS3 commercial. Ever. Nobody knows about a product that gets little to no exposure.

Unfortunately, a final factor was that the PS3 launch here had a lot of people in the US badmouthing Sony and the PS3. You will still find people who still think the PS3 costs "like $400 or something" and "has no games" because the MS/fanboy propaganda has taken hold and won't let go. They don't shut up. This contagious "stifled-info-effect" ; also applies to PSN (and PS3's features --web browser, interchangeable HDD, built-in WiFi, etc...), even though it's free, few people know that, or know it's bare but functional for online gaming. It's all about misinformation (and Sony is partly to blame for that lack of marketing, they should have gotten word out long ago here before this snowball started rolling)...Misinformation: It is an incurable disease and it's gross.

Again, speak for yourself, speak for your circle of friends, or even speculate on the majority (the numbers don't lie, yes, America more often chooses the 360)...but DON'T speak for all of us. You will never have that right.
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IHateYouFanboys  +   1520d ago
@BWS1982: "Again, speak for yourself, speak for your circle of friends, or even speculate on the majority (the numbers don't lie, yes, America more often chooses the 360)...but DON'T speak for all of us. You will never have that right."

get off your high horse buddy.

i CAN speak for the majority of video game players in america becuase like you even acknowledge, the numbers dont lie. America has chosen the 360, not the PS3. im not speaking for you, or little timmy next door, or jane over the road - im speaking about America as a county. the country that has bought 20 million 360s compared to 12 million PS3s.

go whinge to someone else about not wanting to be grouped with the rest of the country, i dont care. youre part of the country that sells more 360s than PS3s every month, so when talking about that countries preference in game consoles, you are included.
BWS1982  +   1520d ago
I'm on no high horse, I read your post,
and apparently you didn't.

You have to reread your comment, you spoke for "America" not a majority. NOT the same, can you not see that?

A majority is not an entirety. It's very simple. Stop blurring that line and complaining that I'm pointing to its existence.

You can speak for some majority, you can utter all the stats you want, but you're lying to yourself if you think I'm alone. You put count of it up yourself: 12 million. As long as you realize there's a majority and not an entirety, that's all this is about. I don't think you are aware of how absolute your previous post was.

Go reread it if you want. Broad-sweeping comments like yours are how stereotypes get started. So whatever "whinging" is, I doubt I'm doing it. I'm correcting you and denying you the right to talk for those 12 million. Speak for the 20 million. And then realize you have an oxymoron of a username, seeing as how self-hatred could be present, I see no sense of neutrality or even preference. Your comment is pure fanboyism. If you hate them (like I do, which is why your previous post set me off) then you'd realize all the consoles have something to offer in some fashion. I'm not sure why you have such a degree of unnecessary resolve if you hate fanboys. You are virtually pushing FUD about the consoles in your first post with blanket statements and Sony insults. I don't really get that one.

You're not just lumping me into your supposed collective whole in this country-- you're lumping 12 million in, a gross error in persuasion tactics. That's more than just a few off.
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boopis  +   1520d ago
BWS, there is seriously a screw loose somewhere in your head.
BWS1982  +   1519d ago
How so?
I explained myself rationally. I don't like being lumped into someone's imaginary group so they can spread FUD. You can call that crazy, but that's fairly normal.

Edit: I just read even more comments in this section below. I'm in alignment with almost all the sentiments here that speak about the US. How would you like to be stereotyped simply by your geographical location? It's bull and you know it. I never saw the level of hatred for Americans I've seen in the last 3 years on this site, and that genius above me simply adds "bring it on, we're all like this!" to the fray and you think all of us are okay with that? I think not.
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NinjaAssassin  +   1519d ago
Except he never said anything bad that would give any reason to hate Americans. Even if he said something you disagree with, it isn't a reason to hate all Americans. I don't hate people from any country, even when I read stupid comments from some people from other countries. Some of these people seem arrogant and filled with hatred, but that doesn't make me prejudiced against all people from those countries. There are good and bad people in all countries.

The problem as I see it is that you are such a big PS3 fanboy that you take offense at what he said even though he didn't say anything that was inflammatory. He simply stated his opinion, and then mentioned that the US in general has chosen the 360 over the PS3 this generation. Which is factual. Just as they chose the PS2 over the Xbox and Gamecube last generation.

Then you come along and you start insulting Americans, making absurd claims about how we're all sheep (except smart PS3 fanboys like yourself, of course). But none of your arguments make sense. People say that Americans buy the 360 just because it is made by an American company, but you are apparently completely oblivious to the fact that the Wii is a Japanese product and the PS2 and PS1 were also Japanese products that sold extremely well in America.

Some of you are so arrogant that you can't stand that somebody would have a different preference than you.
Sez  +   1519d ago
@cold2000
I agree with you on that point. Power isn't what matter if this was the case the ps2 wouldn't have sold as well as it did. Being the the xbox/gamecube were more powerful than the ps2. Yet they both sold less than the ps2 because sony got all the games for the ps2.

Here another fact. No system that claimed it had the most power than the consoles currently selling has won a gen. Look at neogeo,turbographix 16, linx,ect. Look a wii which is the weaker system. See how well it sells not because of power or graphics.
BWS1982  +   1519d ago
Apparently I'm reading a different post
than you all, then. But you can think what you like of what you feel you're observing. But just know I know myself and the crap I've seen here for 3 years more than a lot of people seem to. I've seen the utter disdain for Americans here (and I'm not badmouthing our country, but we tend to follow trends--see what I did? I said "tend to", that's how you state a majority), and the way I see his post, he fueled that by his disposition. People are allowed to enjoy what choice they make, you can pull up my hundreds of comments over 42 months here to see that I stand by that philosophy.

I NEVER said he can't have an opinion. Ever. He wasn't stating a preference, he was making bold, sweeping comments he finds factual. That's the end of it, and if you are shaking your head at that scroll up.

If you knew anything about me, you'd know I myself can't stand fanboys, which is why his post upsets me (the one I don't think people are realizing I'm talking about). He fuels anti-Americanism (IMO) and he is a 360 fanboy in that he has an agenda. He's lying about other people's opinions, initially ignoring millions of people who may prefer PS3 and saying "the US does this"...I'm sorry, but he went to an extreme to smear and prove his point (and choice) and I spoke up.

Trust me, I have a 360 and have 14 games for it, many times I love playing on that over my PS3, I just chose PS3 first for a purchase because of reliability and its cost (it was cheaper as PS3 included things I wanted). I even want a Wii, too, I just don't have the time yet to factor in a third console (on top of my PC).

Look, I never said anything about 360 being a US product, that wasn't in my argument. I really don't think people get the point, and I don't think people are reading his or my posts. He didn't simply state a preference or speak to a majority (at one point he did, but initially a lot of his comment indicates an entirety), he went off into absolution territory with all or nothing remarks and then back-peddled. I'm not sure where people are missing that. It's right above these posts as his one of two posts.

I think people can have what sentiments they want about each console, and people are allowed to assume things about me (I don't like it, but I can't control that), but I won't stand around idly while the image of my country is further tarnished with misinformation or stereotypes being perpetuated. I'm human, I'm flawed, but I'm reading his first post the only way I still see it, it's inflammatory because he is declaring a false fact in a pompous way. Perhaps he worded it wrong and other people are reading it how he thinks. I read it in simple, cut and dry terms, that he initially stated with "all" and "no one" terms. You can think what you like about me, or my life or gaming preferences, but with respect, I think I have that area covered better.

For all it's worth, I regret speaking up simply because no one is seeing what I'm seeing, save that one agreer, apparently. That's common for this site, though. I really don't get it, this site has been a joke when it comes to rational thinking sometimes, and anti-Americanism has been one of the strongest revelations I've encountered. You seem level headed, so please, reread his post, read some of my past comments, you'll see my only intent was to clarify and speak up from that "12 million" because they exist, even though I'm also part of that 20 million too (not a fanboy). If you still find it to be in order, I can't help that, but I had my reasons and I'm tired of being spoken for by misrepresentations. Now, with no more bubbles, I have my views and others have theirs, so, stalemate, I suppose...
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EVILDEAD360  +   1519d ago
It's simple..people love the 360
I'm from the US..own all systems and own over 100 games for the 360.

This topic comes up all the time and as you can see from level of response it is still as heated as ever.

You have people that hate the success of the 360 so much, that they resort to insulting the country and it's people.

Some of the rationalization is simply laughable at best..

No matter how you spin it..the numbers don't lie..Micrsoft has had great success with it's second console.

When NPD #s are released they say the US does not = the world..but what they don't also want to believe is the internet fankid war does not = reality when you log off

The 360 had an uphill battle to win the hearts of gamers and it delivered..

The FPS genre is the #1 console genre by far this gen..this is mainly due to the genre busting sucess of Halo and Halo 2

But, Halo 3 was only part of the story..it was games like Gears of War, GRAW, Call of Duty 2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Elder Scrolls, Bioshock, F.E.A.R...that were exclusive or led on the 360 that started the snowball rolling

Xbox Live price is all the 360 naysayers complain about..but 360 owners turned gaming over live into a lifestyle..

On the internet games like Halo 3 are the most popular games to bash by PS3 owners..but the reality...millions of gamers put astronomical numbers over LIVE into that game alone..

Why..because it's FUN..the one equation missing from the delusional hate..people love gaming on the 360 because they have fun doing it

LIVE..The controller..the achievements..the price..the community..all all factors for the 360 success in the US

But, the funny part is if you look at the Worldwide numbers..the biggest difference is simply Japan. The 360 sales is competative everywhere else in the world.

So before the scratch their heads bashing the US..tell em' to look into their own backyard..especially when we know that 99% of these people spending most of their internet lives bashing the 360 arent Japanese..

Gaming Life is good..no matter what console you own these days

Evil
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EVILDEAD360  +   1519d ago
@ the BWS vs IHater comments
I hate to jump in..but you going nuts about his comment is exactly opposite of what you are pretending to portray..

The article is from a PS3 site asking about why the 360 is outselling the US in North America..

IHATE responded directly to a post by an earlier comment..

He spoke on what he felt the majority of American gamers believe..contradicting points about sales and that we gamers only care about power etc..

That post never claimed to talk for the PS3 owners in America...

But BWS got mad and said:

'If you knew anything about me, you'd know I myself can't stand fanboys, which is why his post upsets me (the one I don't think people are realizing I'm talking about). He fuels anti-Americanism (IMO) and he is a 360 fanboy in that he has an agenda. He's lying about other people's opinions, initially ignoring millions of people who may prefer PS3 and saying "the US does this"...I'm sorry, but he went to an extreme to smear and prove his point (and choice) and I spoke up.'

The funny part about it is that BWS1982 conviently gets 'upset' at a comment that had nothing to do with Anti-americanism or was it even close to being extreme...

But he said nothing about these comments that came before IHATE

'It has one exclusive called Halo which a stereo-typical American gamer worships.'

'Because Americans are blinded by Halo and Gears?'

'It's because many Americans fall for xboxlive Justin beiber Ads.
I hate Justin beiber'

'Because the majority of americans which believe in microsoft are all sheeps...'

'The people I talk to are also just as mystified as I am as to why the 360 still sells in the US.'

'The peer pressure and misguided patriotism factors are still there though.'

The only reason he said nothing because the guy wrote a pro-360 comment that countered the negative..

It's ashame that the ones who go out of there way to claim they are above it all..throw rocks from glass houses..

No offense to either of you..just my take..

On topic..it's clear that people are bitter about the 360s success..but the truth is every console this gen has enjoyed plenty of success..I'll take em all

Evil
theonlylolking  +   1520d ago
Americans buy what is popular not what offers you more for your money. That is why in US iphone is everywhere. Also M$ has ads on channels kids watch because they know who buys their stuff...the parents. So if kids see it and say Mommy/Daddy can I get that. Then they get it for them. You never see a Uncharted ad, move ad, or playstation ad on channels most children and teens watch.
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Armyntt  +   1520d ago
And....
Whats your point? M$ is better at advertising? You dont say.
CyberCam  +   1520d ago
@the_only_lol_king
It's funny you say that... Usually when I'm in EBGames (Gamespot), I usually see most of these young kids in there with their moms and they're usually buying 360 games. However, when other kids are with their dad's they're usually buying ps3 games. It's the weirdest thing I noticed the other day.
beardpapa  +   1520d ago
@cyber
I saw a kid and his dad at gamestop trading in all their 360 games and halo 3 edition 360 for store credit towards a ps3
OSU_Gamer  +   1520d ago
@the_onlu_lol_king

so who's fault is that?

I love my PS3 more than my 360, but for being such a better machine, you would expect it to be just as popular.
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R0me  +   1520d ago
If you compare PS3/xbox before you go into a store to buy it, you will come to the conclusion that the ps3 is the better choice. Objective.

There are many other factors: Headstart of xbox: People buy xbox (they dont care if it is good or bad) because their friends have one. They think: My friend has this engine so I can play with him, thats more worth than the blu ray player etc.

Besides my own opinion is that americans are easily convinced by marketing, so they buy rather xbox consoles. MS is doing more advertisement, more people get reached, more people get convinced.

I wish more people would turn their brain on and stop letting the advertisement do the choices.
-Alpha  +   1520d ago
Exactly, dont blame MS for campaigning better. They appeal to a wider audience, then so be it. Sales are sales, and when it comes to the 360 winning in any form you people are quick to make excuses.

The 360S helped the 360 a lot. When PS3 slim did great numbers you all would love to praise the PS3 and spell the end of the 360, yet when the 360S gets out none of you are riding that train. This community gets so hostile over the 360, no one is saying the PS3 is doing bad yet everything seems to be taken so offensively around here. Relax people.
UnwanteDreamz  +   1520d ago
@Alpha
"no one is saying the PS3 is doing bad"

Plenty of fanboys have said just that but you just choose to ignore them.
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-Alpha  +   1520d ago
@unwanted

I meant that no one in this thread is trying to bash the PS3, nor is this article trying to say the PS3 sucks. Yet, any hint of the 360 outshining the PS3 in some way gets everybody trashing the 360 around here.
n4gno  +   1520d ago
knightdarkbox is probably living in 2006.

"more than the competition does" ? lol, what a joke, on every single level, the ps3 offer more, from games, to graphics, and functionality.

stop lying to yourself, if the xbox sold well in US, it's just because the xbox had a headstart, people wants to continue to play with the same friends, and they love halo there...but most of all, because most of the media are biased, and people brainwashed, like with irak and fox news.
Most of big dumb american blockbusters are doing very well, but it's not a reason to considerer they are the best movies, masse culture is mediocre.
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CyberCam  +   1520d ago
@n4gno
Agreed... I couldn't have put it better myself. It seems that the majority of gamers have really low standards when it comes to quality of products they purchase! They are willing to buy the same things over & over as long as they're cheap. Why?

When I was in EBGames here in Canada, I met the Sony rep & asked him why Sony was the only gaming publisher/hardware maker to treat the Canadian dollar on par with the US dollar (all other publisher's games are $10 more). He told me that the majority of North American Sony sales are from Canada. I was floored by that statement... although I don't how true that statement was.
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catguykyou  +   1520d ago
The Dreamcast had a head start of a year and the PS2 knocked it out so fast, SEGA got out of the hardware business. One year head start isn't the save all end all. You have to deliver to keep that lead.

The only reason the PS3 has cought up and shrunk that lead so much is because of how well the new Sony advertising has been lately, the drop in console price, and the amazing exclusives that have been coming out. Sony has not slouched the past 2 years. But neither has Microsoft.

Who knows what these stupid motion controls will lead to though...
Hades1337  +   1520d ago
I don't know how n4gno got so many agrees, but your argument is just plain biased. What each console offers and how it appeals to individual consumers is purely subjective; you can't make a definitive judgement one way or the other. Some people love Halo, some people don't - it's their choice. Also, Microsoft put out the 360 a year before its competition for a reason, and all that bollocks about the media being biased, I think you're the one that has been brainwashed. Switch on and get a grip.
cgoodno  +   1520d ago
1. Best online gaming
2. Early adoption
3. Best online gaming
4. Best console shooters
5. Best online gaming
6. Best marketing
7. Best online gaming
8. Easiest HD development platform w/best third-party results
9. Best online gaming
10. Best community tools

@FishCake9T4: The success of an online service is oftentimes marked by its ability to draw in the widest array of users. World of Warcraft is the best and most successful MMO and has the same issue. XBL is so successful that it draws in even the youngest of gamers. The reason why it's the best? Those 10 year-old kids keep coming back, just like everyone else, because it works the best and it's the most enjoyable.
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FishCake9T4  +   1520d ago
By best online gaming do you mean the online with the most ten year olds.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
candystop  +   1520d ago
fish
Whats sad is the fact that those 10 year olds are enjoying the best online has to offer while grown people like yourself are missing out on the way online gaming was meant to be played. You sound envious and sad like most disagreeing Sony fanboys lol.
cgoodno  +   1520d ago
Would people stop PM'ing me asking me when I stopped being a PS3 fanboy or what's wrong with me? Never been one, please deal with it.
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-Alpha  +   1520d ago
Who cares if it's the most ten year olds? The fact of the matter is that the 360 is selling well in NA, yet ps3 fans will quickly shut that out with excuses and insults like "Americans are sheep" or "kids play on xbox lol". What's with the damage control? The American market doesn't account for the world but it clearly accounts for something since it's the market that is giving MS the most leverage.

If people like the 360, let them. The PS3 is doing great worldwide but the American market is what they lack most in comparison to 360. That much is clear, yet make that comment and you get eaten alive.

And yes, games like Halo are the reason. Is that a bad thing? The game was a very successful game that a lot of people enjoyed. Still has some of the best multiplayer options to this day.

@cgoodno

Turn your back on the PS3 and no matter how much you may have praised it before you will get disowned by your peers. It's a sad "us vs. them" mentality.

XBL and Halo are the strongest reasons alongside early launch. The 360 is doing well in NA because of it. It's funny that when a PS3 sales article is published people will eat it up, but as soon as the 360 is praised in some way people send it to hell. The article may be poor, but that hasn't stopped tons of poor pro-PS3 sales articles from being praised by this community. I don't understand why people get so upset with something pro 360. It's not the end of the world.
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IdleLeeSiuLung  +   1520d ago
It's like the Americans asking the Japanese, why the heck are you getting a PS3 when you can get a Xbox 360?!

It's a preference, so why is it such an issue for people to understand? Instead we get a lot of insults against Americans. In fact, I would wager Americans constantly get a bad reputation among Europeans. Having lived in Europe for almost twenty years, this is no stranger to me. Perhaps we should have an anti-European sentiment movement going in the US or something....
absolutecarnage  +   1520d ago
@ Fishcake 9t4
I love how ps3 guys always go back too the 360 has lots of 10 year olds, I sure the ps3 does too just because they don't have a headset doesn't mean they don't exist, the other day i was watching my buddy play mag and it was the most udder chaotic thing i have ever seen, what fun playing a shooter game if you cann't even talk to your team plus his team was team killing and being retarded
moparful99  +   1520d ago
@Alpha-Male22
Have you been here since the early days of this generation? If you have then clearly you should remember all of the articles that praised the xbox 360 and how it was the greatest console ever made. Then there was a huge influx of articles that did nothing but bash sony and the ps3. If you wan't to blame someone for all of the hostility between ps3 and 360 fans you need not look further then the microsoft. Microsoft uses propoganda as its number one resource to leverage its brand against sony and this has caused alot of controversy in the industry. You are so quick to defend the 360 and its legion of fans while casting stones at ps3 fans but back before 2008 if you were a ps3 fan it was like the salem witch trials. You were persecuted for being a ps3 fan and there wasn't anyone around to defend us and the media even jumped on the ps3 bashing band wagon. Now that the tables have turned all of these 360 legionaires are playing the victim and its just sad.. He who is without sin shall cast the first stone.
-Alpha  +   1520d ago
So your logic is it's OK that PS3 fans have become their enemies? I am not siding with anyone, if this was back in the day of the 360 I would just as much hate being on these boards. Stop justifying the hate-- it doesn't make it any fair, two wrongs don't make a right, why not just see things the way they are instead of siding with the PS3 out of spite?
gman_moose  +   1520d ago
@ moparful99
Couldn't agree more. It takes a fanboy to create a fanboy. Microsoft always focuses on bashing the competition rather than building up what they have. Look at guys like Greenberg- his comments are so fanboyish, its no wonder these "wars" have gotten so out of hand. 360 is the "in" thing in the US. It's more heavily marketed, more celebrities are mentioning it, and it's American made (well obviously the components aren't, or there wouldn't be a 60% failure rate, amirite?) I'm in Canada, and it's pretty much pro-Xbox here too. I think the disgruntled PC crowd, along with the old Sega fans have really adopted 360, and they are the ones buying up to 5 of them (lol @ the guy who literally owns 5 360's - what a loser).

Basically you have the Playstation fans, and the Playstation haters. They've been around since the Saturn, but it really picked up momentum when the Dreamcast was dying, right before the release of the PS2. Then Microsoft decided to get into the business, and after getting bent over last gen, their pride got the better of them this gen, and they will stop at nothing to beat Sony. The hilarious thing is that they don't even care about Nintendo, who's already bitch slapping them- they only have eyes for Sony. What a sad, pathetic bunch of "professionals".
Consoldtobots  +   1520d ago
I don't think anybody has a problem with 360 per say, after all it's just a piece of hardware and will play games for you no matter how much crap you talk about it. That being said, many of more experienced and wise gamers know what MS and their legions of trolls represent for console gaming. There's no way any of us will let these cretons remain in this industry.
SaberEdge  +   1519d ago
consoldtobots
lol ^^^ you are a joke. People like you are the problem. I honestly wonder how some people can be so delusional.
moparful99  +   1514d ago
@Alpha-Male22
I am in no way attempting to justify the hate.. I simply was trying to point out that you are tongue lashing the ps3 camp whenever the 360 camp is guilty of exactly the same.. I am not siding either, I love my ps3 but refuse to relegate myself to the ranks of a fanboy.. I try to use intelligence and common sense in my replys.. I can see you pepper in heavy doses of both as well but again you singled out the ps3 camp.. My rebuttal was just that, a response to indicate where that hostility is derived. You did indicate a desire to know why they acted in the manner they do. I replied, simple as that.
Jeremy Gerard  +   1520d ago
Frankly
the 360 is a more fun console. 360 is easier to use, faster, runs multiplats better, has more fun exclusives, not crap like little big planet, and XBL is still miles better than PSN, its just that simple.

360 is a better gaming machine. Americans know this because they are not blinded by their hate for Americans, like the rest of the world is.
Redrum059  +   1520d ago
Lol fable and Alan wake sais hello. Srry dude but you lose, failure.
raptorjacob  +   1520d ago
I'm american and i agree with the rest of the world i guess. Lbp is an awesome game. i think ps3 can be just as fun, but you can have your opinion. oh yeah i've had plenty of fun with uncharted! i guess what im trying to say is don't clump me in the same category as your definition of americans
cgoodno  +   1520d ago
Yeah, you see the whole 'not crap like LBP' gives away your bias. Once your bias is revealed, no one really cares about the rest of your argument.
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Jeremy Gerard  +   1520d ago
K
I've been around here for a long time, everyone knows Im a 360 fanboy; makes my opinion no less true however, at least not in this case. LBP is a game only hardcore gamers or PS3 fans enjoy, but most gamers are casuals, and LBP is just not doing it for them.

Also most casual gamers prefer a easy to use, affordable GAMING first console, with a great online experience. This is what 360 brings. PS3 not as much so.
cgoodno  +   1520d ago
***LBP is just not doing it for them***

Guess that makes my nephews (4 and 6) either hardcore gamers or PS3 fanboys... man, they start so young this day and age. Anyway, tons of fun playing it with them.

***most casual gamers prefer a easy to use, affordable GAMING first console***

If my 4-year old nephew can use all of the features of the PS3 (watch blu-ray, play a game, listen to music, look at photos), I'm fairly certain it's easy enough for other casual gamers to use as well.
DigitalRaptor  +   1520d ago
@ Jeremy
It's a shame that most of your arguments are about the Operating System rather than the games themselves. The GUI and XBL functionality is nothing if you're games aren't as good as the competition. In my opinion the exclusives are far more unique and better.

It's strange how you claim your top-tier exclusives to be better, when in fact most of them are within the same genre. How boring. LBP, Demon's Souls, Uncharted, Killzone, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, Ratchet & Clank, GT5, Infamous.

360's top exclusives: Halo, Gears, Mass Effect, Alan Wake. Games with guns - 'Nuff said.
Jazz4108  +   1520d ago
Well Said Buddy wells said. You and I will get a ton of diagrees and get reported if you dont praise Sony. Every comment in here that has been reported and taken off was a pro 360 comment but on the otherside there is a ton of comments that are totally bashing the 360 and thats just fine. The people that monitor this site are either biased, not looking at the comments and just going by it has more reports not realizing this site has more ps3 fanboyz on it then 360 fanboyz. I dont know what it is but thats why this site is getting called out as as childish and biased and Sony fanboyz and not taken seriously around the ps3 and 360 gaming community. I think the only reason I come here is for the news but the BS thats written on here is so biased and onesided and its not being modded correctly and until that changes N4g is the laughing stock of the internet.
Inside_out  +   1520d ago
were # 3
It's simple really. Sony said.." We want people to want to work extra hard to buy a PS3 "...thanks Kenny K, How's retirement BTW...LOL

The Xbox 360 offers everything that the PS3 has only better. The only exception is blu-ray. On line is still ( for now ) free, but it's not as good as XBL. Removing Linux was a bad move and an over reaction. They lied about how great all the games are/were. The sales are a perfect reflection of that. MW2 outsold all PS3 exclusives. While the price drop bought them some sales, This holiday season will, with cheap blu-rays left and right, Panasonic 3D far superior and Kinect about to dropped with some killer apps ( Dance central,your shape ) be very telling...Sony about to get clubbed.

Sony is an Japanese company, Japan refuses to support the big American intruder. If it wasn't for Japan, Sony PS3 would be like the Sony Walkman...HISTORY.
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Biggest  +   1520d ago
I have a feeling that he isn't clipping coupons in his retirement. Just sayin'. The Xbox doesn't offer everything the PS3 does, first of all. It recently added free WiFi and hard drives to make itself more competitive with the PS3 models. But it's still missing BlueTooth, internet browser, 7.1+ surround sound, HDMI 1.3, 3D, and free online play among other things. But you knew this already.

But I do hope you enjoy those killer Kinect games. I hear that Joy Ride is another blockbuster to add to your collection.

http://www.youtube.com/watc... (:38)
memots  +   1520d ago
LOL
Dance Central a killer apps ???

Omg what has this Gen turned into... LOL
Kos-Mos  +   1520d ago
Of course the majority of "americans" buy consoles by nationality.
Where`s the pride for an american when he plays a game with a hero that`s feminin and got feelings?
All men should be a marine. Especially the teens.
SaberEdge  +   1519d ago
How false. Look, I love Japan and Japanese culture, but it's obvious who buys more along national lines. In Japan they buy the Japanese consoles almost exclusively and only barely buy the American console.

In the US, it's true the 360 sells more than the PS3, but the Wii is a Japanese console and it sells way more than the 360 and even the PS3 does very well here. Most Americans do not have those kind of racist or nationalistic attitudes. Most of us simply buy what we think will best give us what we want. The respective console sales prove this. Americans buy tons of Japanese-made consoles.
DA_SHREDDER  +   1520d ago
Because the general American public are fucking stupid. Even third world countries have better education than us. Thats just the way it is.
spooky205  +   1520d ago
"Third world countries have better education than US."
That statement is so true. If you look at the curriculum in third world countries vs US, the third world country comes out on top. This is mostly due to that bullshit law "no child left behind". Yeah i really want my children to be denied the best education possible just because some dumbass lazy kids feelings will be hurt. Then the goverment wonders why other countries graduate much more scientists than they do.

Sorry about the rant but back on topic. The US is a country that goes on trends. XBL is a great steamlined service that is very fast (americans dont like waiting) and connects you with your gaming friends. It has become popular and everyone has one. So you buy the system too to play online with your friends. Its easy to use, you dont have to wait, and its popular. I dont think anyone should have to pay for it. But people will do with their money as they please.

Speaking of which does anyone want to donate to the save the spooky205 foundation?
360Defender  +   1520d ago
@DA_SHREDDER
Judging by your sentence structure and lack of punctuation, I would say you fit that description reasonably well.
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DigitalAnalog  +   1520d ago
I find it funny..
That there is a tidal wave of "360 is outselling PS3 in NA" this and that. Yet that article (PS3 hasn't outsold 360 for 3 years) that was approved and now suddenly reported due to the amount of pwnage in that comment section.

Why? I thought this site was run by PS3 fanboys? How'd they fail to report flamebait article yet the previous article was approved then reported? I don't get it.

-End statement
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corneliuscrust  +   1520d ago
failing fanboys?
;) who knows
Greywulf  +   1520d ago
Americans voted for George Bush Twice.
it outsells it by a margin which is always evened out by japan in a few weeks.

I wonder if sony loses sleep over NOT spending 30 million dollars to advertise their console, and investing in its gaming lineup instead. 360 flamebait is so sad, firstly you need blinders to ignore the world, then you need to believe that this is a race to sales... and thats all. But if you follow gaming news, thats the only thing MS actually buzzes about. Kinect is a complete joke, even if it works, I'm sure thats what all 360 owners were looking forward to this gen. Kinectimals. Enjoy the sales, but it sure doesn't seem to cut down on the price of Peer 2 Peer gaming.

Do most 360 owners HONESTLY believe that the company that advertises something like SPIDERMAN3 has no concept on how to blow their wad on advertising? Its shocking the logic circles you have to make when you just own a 360. Like the whole "exclusive game" thing, you have to follow a diagram that some how means when a game is available on 2 devices, that it some how still is an exclusive reason to buy 1 device? Still hurts my brain to figure that one out. Which is possibly why its just easier to own a PS3. Exclusive = PS3.

Microsoft could sell double of what the PS3 has in North America, it still doesn't make RROD less, doesn't make Alan Wake not suck, doesn't make First party studios show up.. All it does is play multiplatform games, and buy into sony playstation associated multiple platform games. As a gamer, I'm glad I don't have to be looking forward to *just* Rage or Crysis 2.

God bless America
God Save the Queen
And Look out for Gojirah!!!
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wages of sin  +   1520d ago
They also voted for Obama...
A back benching senator from a corrupt state that ran on the childish notion of "hope and change" to the delight of millions of liberal idiots who ruined the education system (that was complained about earlier)over the last 30 odd years, and believe in "Obama money".

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

OT,
Contrary to popular belief, all Americans are not fat and stupid. Just as all Europeans aren't weak Euro-trash pussies. I own a PS3 and a 360 (as well as a Wii) and while I have preference for the 360, that doesn't mean I don't like PS3. I prefer to play games, not names.

We constantly hear about how PS3 games can't be touched, how they are this and that, but in reality they aren't. Same goes for PSN a free service that is free only becuase they know they can't charge for it. It feels and is tacked and no amount of excuses for that changes that fact.

For all the talk about kids on XBL, it sure doesn't say much about how "mature" the PSN community when some of you post the comments that you do. You're sad and pathetic and shouldn't be considered gamers. You should be considered bitches.

All the talk about the lack of variety on the 360 is absolute bull as well. There's nothing funnier than a PS3 fanboy making a list of the only games the 360 has, like you actually own one. For all the hating on 3rd party games, they sell better on the PS3 as well, so what do you say to that? You call Alan Wake crap, that's your opinion. It's my favorite game released this year thus far. Just like in my opinion, the PS3 has the most over hyped exclusives this gen. Hell, even the sales of said games on the PS3 by PS3 owners.

How many times have we been told that UC2 and GoWIII are the best things since sliced bread? You'd think that every PS3 owner owned a copy or at the very least they were system sellers. For all the "awesomeness" they have, you'd think they would at least sell in numbers comparitive to console sales.

In the end, you and the rest of the SDF will sit here on N4G, day in and day out talking the same shit. Meanwhile, those of us who are gamers will be gaming. Be that on 360 or PS3.

God bless America
Fuck Europe
And look out for liberals!!!
pixelsword  +   1520d ago
Why do people act like the 360 is total garbage?

The 360 has a really great lineup for this and next year so I don't know why people are so willing to kick them to the curb. The 360 has not only proven themselves with exclusive titles like Mass Effect and Gears of War but has also shown potential with Halo: Reach and the multiplatform game Rage. Granted; I'm not a fan of rage, but it's more of the game itself how they removed a faction from the game, but the tech behind it shows that the 360 is far from tapped out.
theonlylolking  +   1520d ago
The xbox 360 is really good just since the PS3 is better and does not have as much sales. People here at N4G dont understand what is going through peoples mind.

I cant wait for halo reach BTW.
Persistantthug  +   1520d ago
Mass Effect franchise is Exclusive to XBOX 360?
Which one?
Fleet Fox  +   1520d ago
jealousy lol. Its all opinion which is better but ofcourse the losers will throw a fit and try to justify owning the last place, unpopular console this generation.
FanboyPunisher  +   1520d ago
Because we support American companies..
It's like that buy American deal people buying Toyota and Honda is the ps3 and nintendo while xbox is for the consumer who cares about his economy and country.

We can all blame people who buy foreign for destroying this country.

Thank you gambits for ruining this country. BUY American or eff off

That's why xbox leads in sw sales and now hw sales over foreign companies
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Darkshader  +   1520d ago
@Poseidon
I agree with you.

You can also add to that during PS3 launched in USA and Europe that Microsoft tried to sabotage the launched. Microsoft heavily promoted, advertise (even in the chairs that the consumers are sitting) during the PS3 midnight release.

If MS was so confident with their product, why advertise in the PS3 midnight launched heavily .... LOL.

Probaby the XBOX fanboys should ask themselves, why does XBOX 360 still have a RROD issues after all this time?

I believe that MS will continue to dominate 2010 in the US ONLY (worldwide is different). As long as Microsoft continue their ways of:

1. RROD Issues
2. Scratch Disk Games
3. Banned Players Online
4. XBOX 360 warrantyexpired
5. Willing to loss millions/billions of dollars to make XBOX 360 system $50 - 100 cheaper than PS3 system.
ABizzel1  +   1520d ago
THe reason why is that many Americans still hold the PS3 is a meh light.

1. Launching at $600 has Americans still thinking the PS3 is expensive even though many of them know all the free stuff and extra features you get. A large chunck of Americas paid $300 - $400 for their 360 and the PS3 is now $300 yet they won't buy one. My guess is that they felt $300 was too much money for a console and they're waiting for a $199 PS3.

2. The 360 launched first and Americans bought them up, and when all you're friends are one one console then that's where most Americans go, it's the bandwagon effect.

3. Early on and still to this day, stores like Gamestop would shove the 360 down your throat and treat the PS3 like meh. And a lot of people were programmed in feeling that. Most of my friends would say the 360 is better, until I sat them down and showed them what the 360 and PS3 could do, then they realized the PS3 has more to offer than the 360, they just like XBL better than PSN, because that's where their friends were.

4. XBL is a better service than PSN because it has more features. PSN could have more features, but Sony has yet to add them, and if they can't do it, then they need to force developers to add things like game invites in their games.

5. Cheapest. The Wii launched with the lowest price tag in a recession, and that's what parents look for. $200 360 beats a $300 PS3 in the eyes of parents.

Put all this together and you see why the 360 is leading in America, it has a lot going against it, Sony really needs to go on a nationwide tour with trucks full of PS3 systems and do demostrations and let people see everything the PS3 can do, to get the ignorcae out of them.
redsquad  +   1520d ago
"Do you really think Americans buy on console's nationality?"

Actually, I've seen plenty of comments here that say "YES", along with an equal amount of xenophobic dismissal when it comes to the Japanese market.
Xander756  +   1520d ago
I agree. American's do not buy on console's nationality like Japanese do. The 360 has more games, better games (based on review scores), and a large install base which means more of peoples friends have 360's so that is what they also get. These are the reasons the "under-powered" console dominates U.S. sales.
Persistantthug  +   1520d ago
@Xander756....In my opinion, from what I've seen and noticed....
The XBOX 360 does have a bigger line up of games (retail games).....but for the most part, many of those are OLD games...games from like 2006 and 2007, and some even from early 2008.

The majority of the latest and greatest games seem to all be on the PS3 and many of those seem to be exclusive to the PS3.

That's what I've noticed.
Darkstorn  +   1520d ago
America kind of sucks in a lot of ways. And that's coming from an American. We're easily the most screwed up industrialized nation.
irepbtown  +   1520d ago
Price
Price IS the main reason why ps3 is outselling, arcade being what, 120 pounds, ELITE being less that 200 pounds, the new xbox slim 200 pounds. PS3 slim is only at 250 Pounds, they need to lower the price tag and think like MS. 20/40 GB under 150 Pounds, 60/80 around 200 pounds, and anything above maybe 200 aswell.
dragunrising  +   1520d ago
*looks up and down, shakes head*

There isn't a good defense for the PS3 this time boys and girls. The 360 has consistently sold more than the PS3 in NORTH AMERICA since the two started to compete. It DOES NOT MATTER that the PS3 made gains elsewhere in the world on account the article is ONLY about NORTH AMERICA. Get it through your collective hive mind. For some reason or another gamers in NORTH AMERICA consistently choose Xbox 360. If you do not understand the nature of the article, DO NOT POST! Lets keep the comments relevant to the article and not everyones personally biased agenda. Is there no such thing as an constructive comment on N4G?!
DevastationEve  +   1520d ago
Because PS3 gamers think bluray can fool everyone if it can already fool them.

Plus Xbox Live. And Halo. And Gears. And Mass Effect. And Splinter Cell Conviction. And Forza Motorsport 3. And Alan Wake. And Lost Planet. And Modern Warfare. And Bad Company. And Metal Gear Solid Rising. And Final Fantasy XIII. And Grand Theft Auto VI. And Resident Evil 5. And Devil May Cry 4. And Bayonetta. And Ninja Blade.

The titles that mattered the most from before, plus some great newly created games plus games that show off Xbox Live.
Honest_gamer  +   1520d ago
well
you must be using "famous" very loosely....VERY losely, xbox live isn’t famous outside of gaming and this fanboy rubbish in general no one cares for xbox live when i put on the news i hear famous stuff like micheal jackson, bruce springsteen, mel gibson (this time breaking his girl friends tooth haha he doesn’t know when to stop) i could easily do 10000 words here but ill just stop their the point is xbox live, psn, psn + the wii online thing what ever it is called none of them are famous in the slightest outside of gaming
quadalupeupe  +   1520d ago
America is one of the dumbest nations
lowest IQ compared to other countries

most decisions and thoughts by the people are from corporations manipulating them
NinjaAssassin  +   1519d ago
Complete bullsh@t.

The USA is in the top 15 nations with the highest average IQ. Asian Nations like China and Japan top the list, but there are dozens and dozens of nations that have lower average IQs than the USA.
http://knol.google.com/k/iq...
vsr  +   1520d ago
Because rebuying americans are.......
........
boopis  +   1520d ago
I never got an xbox 360 because i enjoyed my gamecube too much..and then i got a ps3. lol just missed the xbox transition i suppose.
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NinjaAssassin  +   1519d ago
Except he never said anything bad that would give any reason to hate Americans. Even if he said something you disagree with, it isn't a reason to hate all Americans. I don't hate people from any country, even when I read stupid comments from some people from other countries. Some of these people seem arrogant and filled with hatred, but that doesn't make me prejudiced against all people from those countries. There are good and bad people in all countries.

The problem as I see it is that you are such a big PS3 fanboy that you take offense at what he said even though he didn't say anything that was inflammatory. He simply stated his opinion, and then mentioned that the US in general has chosen the 360 over the PS3 this generation. Which is factual. Just as they chose the PS2 over the Xbox and Gamecube last generation.

Then you come along and you start insulting Americans, making absurd claims about how we're all sheep (except smart PS3 fanboys like yourself, of course). But none of your arguments make sense. People say that Americans buy the 360 just because it is made by an American company, but you are apparently completely oblivious to the fact that the Wii is a Japanese product and the PS2 and PS1 were also Japanese products that sold extremely well in America.

Some of you are so arrogant that you can't stand that somebody would have a different preference than you.
clinker  +   1520d ago
I think two factors help to explain the discrepancy in North America: The gaming culture here is much more focused on shooters, Microsoft has spent a lot of money targeting NA, and the Arcade SKU has inexplicably sold really well here.
Chris399  +   1520d ago
Agreed, it's the cheapest HD console.
Sure, it's not feature for feature matched with a PS3 (an Arcade), but people buy what the can afford. And for a while, the PS3 was a luxury item. So when you have those customers looking at multi-plats and sitting on the fence, they'll probably just pick up the cheaper platform to play them on.
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LiquifiedArt  +   1520d ago
A simple answer
Xbox360 came out first.
= More people purchased it.
= Friends want to play with their friends.
= Easier to use online.

Its pretty simple. Many people would use the ps3, if their friends had it and/or if it had a party system like xbl.
Omega4  +   1520d ago
The same reason the PS3 outsells the 360 in Japan
Strange_Evil  +   1520d ago
To be fair the amount by which the PS3 outsells the 360 in Japan is A LOT more than what the 360 outsells it in US.
tplarkin7  +   1520d ago
Good point
I think the 360 appeals to Americans because the games are designed to American tastes. Americans like FPS and WRPGs, Japanese like JRPGs.
Biggest  +   1520d ago
I don't understand your statement. I'm pretty sure the 360 has more JRPGs right now.
pixelsword  +   1520d ago
the 360 has more JRPG'S now but I think one of the, if not the best JRPG that came out is Demon's souls. Demon Souls redefined what a multiplayer game is as well as what a RPG is.

I can go on and on about how good Demon's Souls is.
Genesis5  +   1520d ago
True patriotism plays a big part. That and some Americans just will not buy Japanese.
lelo2play  +   1520d ago
Same goes to Japan. Lot of Japanese just will not buy American.

Funny thing... every console is probably made by China.
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Genesis5  +   1520d ago
They are and they're banded. Crazy world eh!
GarandShooter  +   1520d ago
You may want to research Japanese car sales vs American car sales in the USA.
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Solidus187-SCMilk  +   1520d ago
thats not true at all
sorry but the number one selling console is made by NINTENDO, a Japanese company. Ps1/2 were #1 and they are made by Sony, another Japanese company.

Americans probably care about buying products made by their county less then most countries in the world.

The fact of the matter is that microsoft caters more toward the American market then sony does. Online gaming was getting big in USA, microsoft used that. FPS and 3PS are popular over here, they used that too. Sony started doing this too, but this gen. M$ started doing it with xbox1.

Microsoft has delivered what Americans wanted before sony this gen. A decent price, with plenty of appealing games, and an online system built around ease of use and community.

Alot of people I know love 360 for online gaming with real friends. These features, which live has had for years now, are a big part of the reason 360 does so well over here. Being able to do things like party chat and easy integrated features like universal game invites, has really brought online gaming to the masses of console users.
N4BmpS  +   1520d ago
Actually omega you made a good point (can't believe I said that)it's kind of prejudice.
kws1065  +   1520d ago
At this point
I don't think PS3 really needs to catch up 360 in US. I don't want SCE publishes a bunch of generic shooters to catch 360 up in US, either.

Let's see what will happen to GT5 with NASCAR in it. If nothing happens, then SCE can forget US.
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ElementX  +   1520d ago
What generic shooters are on 360 that aren't on PS3? Gears and Halo aren't generic. COD, MW, BFBC, and Tom Clancy titles are on both consoles. Those are the generic shooters.

*EDIT*
@ below:
I thought KZ2 was a decent shooter. The graphics were the only thing going for it, though. Repetitive enemies, same weapons you find in most games... I wouldn't call it generic but wasn't one of my favs, either.
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RadientFlux  +   1520d ago
I liked KZ2 as well, but if Kws1065 is using the logic that Gears of War and Halo are generic shooters than Killzone2 is also in the same boat.
RadientFlux  +   1520d ago
I would classify Killzone as a generic shooter, along with Gears of War.
TEFL0N_D0N_81  +   1520d ago
I liked it too, but I hated the controls for it. Also when you're running, it feels hard to turn. Basically I had to run a direction, stop. Change angle, and run again. Very annoying. Also, the story didn't capture me. Graphics though, sick as hell.
ElementX  +   1520d ago
I think that in North America people want to game with their friends and their friends own a 360. My neighbor was telling me his brother just got a 360 for college because he was the lone PS3 owner in his group of friends. Now he owns both consoles. I own both, I have friends who also one either one or the other. Most of the people I actually hang out with own the 360, though.
LordMarius  +   1520d ago
You hit the nail on the head.
Since the 360 came out a year ahead of the PS3 and because its cheaper, most of yours friends had/have one.
Still I refused to buy one and made them buy PS3s, lol
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The Great Melon  +   1520d ago
Definitely the only reason why it leads. All my friends bought an Xbox 360 early on, but I preferred the games that Sony releases so I waited. Since I never cared about multiplayer it's easy for me to move back and forth between consoles even if I prefer the ps3 more. My friends however don't want to abandon the network of friends they have created on xbox so they won't buy a ps3. This is changing now. The exclusives Sony keeps putting out are starting to sway my friends. People can live with missing out on one game, but not a multitude of games.
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RadientFlux  +   1520d ago
I think it has more to do with the x360 having a bigger used game market, then anything else.
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Myst-Vearn  +   1520d ago
Why is the PS3 still outselling the X360 worldwide?
?
Fleet Fox  +   1520d ago
Its not. Keep telling yourself that though.
DirtyLary  +   1520d ago
Simple answer.

Advertisement. Can't go 30 minutes without a Xbox commercial airing.
You Noob  +   1520d ago
Because human stupidity has no limits.
Dorwrath  +   1520d ago
You just proved your own point there
GarandShooter  +   1520d ago
Actually, Einstein somewhat agreed with you.

"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

Now who to believe, Einstein or Dorwrath?

Decisions, decisions...
BeaArthur  +   1520d ago
I was worried, I hadn't seen a flame article in 3 hours. Glad to see N4G hasn't lost its touche.
Optical_Matrix  +   1520d ago
Because it's a very american product. Even the games lol. Simple as. Of course they support any good product but same with hollywood films, reason why they sell a shit tonne in America is because....of how american they are. Xbox 360 appeals to that audience more so than any other. That's why.
TheObserver  +   1520d ago
Simple. Americans are dumb. While it is true that the US is a technology and science frontier, it is also the frontier for stupidity. How else can you explain them buying something so flawed and overpriced? It even charges you to use your own internet connection just to use lame P2P. On the contrary, they don't buy superior gaming PCs with all the freedom and power you could possibly want or need.

I am American by the way.
SpartanGR  +   1520d ago
Because even now its cheaper, better online service (although Sony is catching up), and still better with some multi titles.
Rhythmattic  +   1520d ago
Isnt online what a console makes these days?

In the US, with a year headstart, the 360 had, and has, a base of online gamers that arent going to change platforms, nor recommend other platforms to friends, after-all, its what they have invested in...

Totally understandable.
Jazz4108  +   1520d ago
Ps3's online is so last last last gen its not funny. It should be a beta since Psn is so incomplete. As far as PS3 operating system and its installs and loads is just pure crap. What takes 5 sec to install on live takes 30 minutes on ps3 and anyone that uses both knows this is true. I really guess the only reason you put up with it is that its free. Oh I forgot they are trying to charge for some of it now.
Rhythmattic  +   1520d ago
"Ps3's online is so last last last gen its not funny."

360 online is Sooooo overrated, its not funny.

Talk to the hand.
lastdual  +   1520d ago
The friend effect. It's common sense.
People are going to buy the console that most of their friends have, so that they can play online with those friends. If most of your buddies are playing MW2 on Live, you're more likely to get the console that allows you to play online with them.
LiquifiedArt  +   1520d ago
Spot on
Its really that simple.

Also, it came out first and has a more intuitive online component.

Combine those factors and thats the answer.
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Kassanova07  +   1520d ago
Current 360 fans are re-buying the new model with the addition of the clearance of the old arcade consoles. Software sales clearly state that PS3's momentum is long lived.
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silentmurdah  +   1520d ago
...
Because it's cheaper....
Hellsvacancy  +   1520d ago
Youve just gotta look at how well the Twilight films sell over there, there god awful (only seen 1 of them, the missis wanted 2 c it) but there the BIGGEST films EVER over there

So i can kinda c what DropDeadFreds tryin 2 say
etownone  +   1520d ago
Why do we keep hearing the excuses of one year head start??

If that's true, then how did the PS2 destroy the Dreamcast? Or the Wii destroy the 360?

C'mon people !

I know one reason for sure is the best exclusives of the PS2 are now found on the cheaper 360.
Exclusives are a big deal, especially the ones that get carried on from one generation to the next. That's why I'll always buy Nintendo consoles, cause I'm always looking forward to next gen Mario, Samus and Link.

PS3 is doing a better job now as far as games/marketing and price ...... But it still doesn't have that one franchise exclusive that appeals to the world.
For sure if Sony could have kept the GTA franchise exclusive on the PS3, they would have without a doubt sold much more consoles than the 360.
Rhythmattic  +   1520d ago
etownone

1 YEAR head start.... It is True.

Is it not Fact ?

So PS2 exclusives are cheaper on 360 today ? Well a lot more exclusives are still available for PS2 ...

Cmon, I own both systems (360/PS3) , and they both have their advantages, But when you take disadvantages into consideration, even you should own both... (sorry Wii)

PS. As the Title States. NA, not the World.
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etownone  +   1520d ago
@ rhythmattic
Yes the one year start is a fact BUT I'm trying to point out it's a poor excuse and backed it up with consoles that also had one year starts but still got beat in NA.

And when I'm talking about exclusives, I'm referring to franchises that used to synonymous with the Playstation brand like Devil May Cry, FF, Tekken, GTA, etc., etc.
When someone thinks of the Xbox brand, Halo and now Gears of War come to mind.
Nintendo has too many awesome franchises.
What about Playstation? The only one left is GT .... Even the next Metal Gear will be on the 360. And of course I'm talking about franchises that carried over from the PS2.

Sony is doing great by building new first party exclusives this gen .... That will definitely help push the PS4 .... for any fan that wants to see next gen Drake, Infamous, Resistence, and also next gen Sony can get MS franchises from this gen like Mass Effect and Gears or War since they are not first party MS studios.
bobdog626  +   1520d ago
They cost the Same
I wonder if this one is MOD Free this time.Just saying?
silentmurdah  +   1520d ago
Now they cost the same in essence... But the xbox has always been cheaper
BubblesDAVERAGE  +   1520d ago
well if u are not an idiot
there is still a 300 dollar ps3 that sells really well....and weather they admit it or not...it has to account for at least 3-40 percent of there sales...ps3 is the system to own right now...xbox is still relevant as of now but it is fading
Cairnius  +   1520d ago
Because no one cares about "underpowered"
If all the PS3 has to argue for its supremacy is "has more programming power," it will continue to lose. Software sells systems, not hardware, especially when developers rarely, if ever, take full advantage of what these consoles can do.
ranmafandude  +   1520d ago
well
the only reason i want a xbox 360s is to have

* a bigger hard drive
*presumed less hardware problems as the old xbox 360's
*quieter
*i love black consoles lol.
AtatakaiSamurai  +   1520d ago
... you just described the launch PS3 :/ why didn't you just get that 3yrs ago lol
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ranmafandude  +   1520d ago
umm
i couldn't afford the ps3 when it was $600,$500,or even $400 lol.
pwnsause  +   1520d ago
"* a bigger hard drive
*presumed less hardware problems as the old xbox 360's
*quieter
*i love black consoles lol. "

you described a PS3. not only do you get a big HDD with it, you can replace it with any Laptop Sata Drive, for Cheap.
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LiquifiedArt  +   1520d ago
*presumed less hardware problems as the old xbox 360's

Microsoft has been selling that line on each console they release. Wake up. The hardware hasn't undergone anything drastic. The flaws remain.
lelo2play  +   1520d ago
Flamebait and stupid article. N4G will love it.

Xbox was the best and most powerful console last generation... and lost. Most powerful console does not mead sh*t, just to make my point, the less powerful consoles (DS and Wii) are winning this generation.
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PS360PCROCKS  +   1520d ago
Xbox live is synonymous with Xbox and it's very popular. Halo and gears. Hate them or love them, they are fun and offer fun online, that's why. Uncharted is good, kz2 is good, god of war is good. But for online nothing beats those 2, they just have a name that people know and love.
edgeofblade  +   1520d ago
This line of comments is ridiculous. The majority of the comments are "ad hominem".... or rather "ad nationem"... and of zero value. The market is speaking and they are deciding what they want right now. You can bitch and complain... but the rubber has met the road.

This is what we call "denial".

But thankfully, there is also this thing we call "time" which continually gives everyone a chance to do better tomorrow. Instead of living in denial, why not focus on making up that lost ground. I can assure you, that's what's on Sony's mind.
bjornbear  +   1520d ago
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theDJKNOWN  +   1520d ago
wow
Going in a comment section like this is feeding a pool of sharks!!!
whitesoxfalife  +   1520d ago
thas whay i didnt make a comment til now
Spenok  +   1520d ago
My thought exactly, just look at how many comments there are. Over 230 already. I havent seen an article this dicussed in a while.
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