The new model of Xbox 360 caused a good deal of console sales in the month of June, but discounted old hardware sold more.
people like me are waiting to make sure that there is no more hardware faults.
I think people like you will all ways be waiting, no matter what happens you will never take the plunge.
Nothing can stop the hardware faults since they are always possible to happen on any system. Only the rates can be lowered and as most of the Xbox 360 users know, you just have to take time and install your games on HDD along with placing the system in an open area. I'm an Xbox 360 Jasper owner since May 2009 and I've never faced a problem with it since I use it in an open area and install my games on HDD and since Slim has 250GB HDD it won't be a problem to install tens of games in it.
i have an xbox 360 right here with 73000 gamerscore, so if you mean smart people like me who have already been burnt by the first 360 then i agree with you... oh and ummm FAIL. @ BELLOW i have had 2 replace my xbox 5 times along with a red one as well, on the other hand iv had 1 ps3, these are honest staments i make so you tell me which is more reliable.
So you didn't buy a ps 3 because of ylod. the jasper models are on the same level as ps 3 when it comes to hardware faults. The new slim isn't able to rrod because when temp gets to high it shut down. inbe its a red dot now the rrod you see on youtube are most likely faked the console isn't out a month. if the new slim rrod then the ps 3 slim will too. inbe4 massive amount of disagrees.
So there consoles are not entirely different and made by different companies. /s
when Microsoft claimed that the 360 "slim" was selling out. Any one with the even the slightest bit of common sense knew that the bulk of 360 hardware sold in the last couple of weeks was due to the liquidation prices on the "fat" models.
The slim is out selling the older models and is in short supply. The reason it was only 40% was because the slime started selling on June 16 and was quickly in short supply.
The slim is having a shortage. I know, I sell them. They're also selling faster than any model that has been released from Microsoft. We only receive a shipment of about 9 each couple of weeks, and we're rated one of, if not the highest GameStop in the county.
Microsoft said a limited number would be shipping. Hopefully, they'll get rid of the Arcade entirely and give everyone hard drives.
i agree completely. i work in one of the largest retail store in the country. the week xbox360 s was announced nation wide stores discontinued the older models. then drop the prices down. the arcade even went on sale for 129.99+ a free $50 gift card. then the week after that we received 30 arcades and zero xbox360 s. we got the xbox360 s the 3rd week of its release.
sorry dude where i live i can't find a slim, they just put me on a waiting list, and that was 5 days ago did it at wallmart
I know a lot of it has to be attributed to the old arcade unit! I mean, you have stores like Target selling it for $130 and you get a $30 gift card with it!
so far the news and the tests supported by videos on youtube are all showing that the new console still standing.
But heat damage can be a cumulative thing. So overheating once may not cause a failure, but repeatedly running at a high temperature can cause a failure over time. That's why it's too early to tell if the slim failure rate will be acceptable. I'd give a year or more before claiming the slim has solved the problems. By then we'll be close to the Xbox.next and the whole things starts all over again. People will wonder whether the new box will be reliable.
Hopefully, if MS play it smart then they will reduce the Slim model price near Halo Reach release. If they do that then I will consider getting one,
I doubt they would drop the price so soon after bringing the system to retail. Why not just launch it at the cheaper price?
I think people went for good deals offered for the old models. Plus if i want another one i'd go for older model as i cn swap my old 250gb HDD b/w consoles. Slim would be incompatible with my existing 10+ games which are way more than 16GB flash can take.
Although this is likely true, its still pretty strange that on online stores like amazon and gamestop the Slim ranks at the top while the older models are no where to be seem even whilst still being in stock. It likely only accounted for 40% in June due to the massive shortages but it will definitely be the main seller from now on, and once the $199 slim arrives that will take the lead. But I got a feeling that just before Kinect's releases MS will drop the price of the slim models down to the price of the old models.
That would be great but never going to happen. If the slims are selling then there is no need for a price drop. This is exactly like the PS3 slim everyone wants a price drop but they are selling well so why drop the price.
when they have old arcades/ 360s to sell through. I'm sure that they're offering limited shipments of the Slim until the old stock is depleted. Basic retail 101. I doubt that MS will drop the price again before Kinect. They will just release a $200 Arcade Slim and another Arcade bundled w/ Kinect.
@Chris399 I think if there will be an arcade slim it won't be like the old xbox arcade without a hard drive , i think the new arcade will be with a 60 gig or 120 gig hard drive . So they don't need a price drop for 250 gig slim and offer a cheaper model for people who are waiting for price drop.
No additional hard-drive space was mentioned. Make of that what you will.
@Chris399 Dude i didn't say your wrong , i just say it would be stupid of them to sell an arcade again like the old one with no hard drive , it would be smarter of them to include every model with a hard drive even if it is just a 20 gig , becauce the price of hard aint that expensieve any more , Actually it would make more sense for sony to sell a similar arcade version of the ps3 with no hard drive cause you can easily put any 2.5-inch SATA notebook harddisk in it for cheap of any brand and space size you like , your not restricted to use a Microsoft approved xbox 360 hard drives like on the xbox 360 .
Well here in Australia Game were flogging off the old elite models for $259 and EB had Old elite models with 2 games for $324 and pro for $299. Not really surprising both retailers are doing deals to clear the old stuff to make room for the new 250 gig 360 which I was lucky enough to score 1 of 3 left at my local EB. SO far a vast improvement in the noise department.
Can we please get some real gaming news. Nobody cares about sales. Least real gamers don't..... we need 2 sections of n4g. The actual News 4 Gamers and the News 4 flamebaits.
We had 2 sections for commenting before, a gamer and an open zone, but that wasn't implemented in the "new" n4g. I don't think they'd bother with a flamebait section.
Yea that was a improvement. I still believe they need to have some other section because the real gaming news here is really lacking badly. I see the same articles all the time on the same topic. I don't think people realize they just talk and debate about the same topic over and over never ending cycle of flamebait.
i agree. i want more news on games not sale.
So true Colonel. All the news being brought forth to N4G.COM is sales. Sales. Theonly people that should care of sales are CEO's...and other high level employees of these console companies that have large financial stakes in said companies.
This site is too absorbed with sales to care about gameing news. Heck news specifically about games is practically ignored.
people only buy it because its cheap.
It kind of makes sense that it only accounted for 40% of the units moved when you think about it. It was only on the market for half of the month and all of the other models were discounted when it was released. I understand how tired people are of all of the sales banter and the flamewars it causes. This story is likely to turn into a huge flamewar as well before all is said and done. But the number of consoles installed in homes is a very important metric. The more the installed base grows for the consoles you own the more likely you are to get new games for them. You can't have one without the other.
Got mine on Thursday, very impressed so far. Only ever had a second hand 20 gig 360 (given to me after a friend upgraded to an elite) - big step up, in terms of noise and build quality (tho it still feels a little cheap next to the ps3 slim). Also, still gets very hot (maybe the ps3 just does a better job of hiding this) - after 5 or so hours gaming last night, it was hot to the touch on the fan on the top. Always been a big sony fan, but can't deny its a cracking console.
this means 40% are genuine gamers the rest are pirates,people are buying old boxes because they're hackable & are waiting to see if new boxes are hackable too before they buy them,way to make business microsoft.
Actually for a while, the xbox 360's being shipped out have un-hackable drives. But the problem is that its the same drive thats in the new 360s, meaning the modding scene is more than likely going to try harder to hack it.
i will be buying a new 360 when it comes out MAYBE only one problem i have with it.....cam i put my game saves onto it because i have spent over 1000 hours on magna carta 2 and infinite undescovery and well am i hell doing that over again my 360 gets 3 RROD's a day right now im glade it's not actual dyed yet lasted 2 years so thats good i have warranty but i cant be bothered waiting a month or so for it back probs send it away and they give it to my dad or something when it gets back when it finally dies of course, when i 1st turn it on it gets the RROD then i turn it of and do that another two times and on the 4th time it works it also some times doesn’t read the hard drive and i have to slap it for it to work blowing it clean doesnt do nothing only a slap will haha take that ho XD
of course. what sort of idiot thought all the xbox360 sold last month in the US were all the xbox360 slims? LoL i got my PC so i don't need a xbox360 really
Tbh, the new hardware is untested in the market because its just been launched, and the old models that are shipping are at the peak of design in terms of rrod prevention. It just seems like a safer bet to buy an older model just now. Imo anyway
With the 360 well knewn for its 55% fail rate, its best not to waste money right way, I didn't even buy a PS3 until later on when they put out the 40GB models. True all systems will have problems, but when one has more problems then two other systems put together. Well you know which one you shouldn't buy then. An why are people keep calling it a 360 Slim? Last I check Microsoft didn't call it slim but "New", plus it isn't even slim at all. I already know of people that has have problems with the new 360 and makes me want to wait more on getting it, but I will be picking Halo Reach up sooner then a new 360.
If people are worrying about the failure rate, then why are they buying the older models which are more prone to hardware failure?
The real true Failure rate is like 24% or something. The 50+ is just flat out wrong. In fact I had a launch 360 until the 360s came out, at which point I traded it in and upgraded. I'm loving the newer model. I think Analyst's are paid to make statements like this. Honestly they may be right to an extent, but only because the 360s was hard to come by. People wanted it, however it's a highly sought product. I had to win a lottery from Gamestop for the chance to buy mine when I did. As they become more widely available they will sell more and more. It is nice to see people getting into the 360 though, I've noticed a lot of new people on a lot of games, Gears, Halo 3, MW2 etc.. It's nice to see.
You do know Game Info and many sites did alot of work to fail out it has a 55% fail rate. Been through six 360's and all in a fail cold place, I just got a use PS3 Slim that wasn't taking care of at all and heats up alittle, but it doesn't anymore where it is at. If it wasn't that big of a fail rate, then Microsoft would have any reason to do free repairs or even give you free 3 years of you 360 being covered.
Message to newcomers and Adults on this site. What's the headline of this post? 360 right, look at all the PS3 fanboys trolling it. This should tell everyone that the PS3 has no games to play, their on here all day long. This is why they love the free online, immature kids. This is what your gonna run into online on PSN, I will gladly pay $40 yr. to stay away from this.
You are right, they do seem to have an awful lot of time to post, I mean look at their history.
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