Thanks to gaming consoles, the use for CDs just isn't needed anymore. It's so easy to buy movies, games and additions to all kinds of multimedia without ever needing to leave your living room. Will CDs eventually be history?
They may get smaller, or even hold way more memory. But I doubt it will go anywhere. I hate download able games from the PSN and Arcade. Because all that you have is a download, you can't hold a download in your hands. If gaming does become download able or everything turns into "cloud" gaming. Then I'll just stop playing games.
CD's are really useful for operating systems.
hahahaha, article fails to mention Steam, article fails
I just purchased the How To Destroy Angels record last week : v ). TSI
Good work, doing the right thing even when they made it available for free...and no i'm not joking. Saul Williams didn't get the support he deserved through a similar scheme but his name did grow from his association with TR...NIN for life. I can't wait for the full album by HtDA @Jamegohanssj5 I have a NIN tattoo, couldn't help myself, their music means a lot to me, a lot of other bands don't have that sort of longevity or legitimate meaning. I wear it on my forearm proudly. EDIT: I have your tattoo design here: http://upload.wikimedia.org... Bam!
NIN's is my favourite band, so anything that Trent does I will be purchasing it even if it's for free. Like Ghost and Slip, they both sit in my record collection. Right along with my Metallica, Pearl Jam, Michael Jackson, Nirvana, and many more record collections. I download from torrent site simply because I hate ripping my own CD's by myself. If I don't have the CD and I torrent it eventually I go out and buy it to show my support for the artist. If you don't do it, then it's stealing. Edit: Once I get my head out of my arse I am going to get a NIN's tattoo as well. I'm just not sure what kind of design I want though. It's so hard to pick. Bubbled up TGSI
Your logic is so flawed. you can't hold a download in your hands? As if holding a CD in your hands means you own a game? How about you remove your detachable hard drive and hold it in your hands. There you go, now you're holding a downloadable game in your hands. Edit: It's not a little different, man. It's exactly the same. Except that hard-drive is more sturdy than a disc. Secondly, if the game file in your drive becomes corrupted, you can just re-download and re-install the game for free because the receipt of your purchase is saved on your STEAM or PSN or XBL account. If your disc gets scratched or lost, you have to buy the game again. If you lose your hard-drive, go on any computer, log into your steam account, and re-download and re-install the game for free. I believe that digital distribution is the most wonderful innovation for gamer ownership in recent memory. Just having a disc in your hands only gives you the illusion that you own it or somehow have tangible access to it. Digital distribution is the future. The only restriction right now is internet download speeds, which is why retail disc-based games are the standard, but right now many companies are preparing their infrastructure for Digital Distribution. Sony and Microsoft will follow suit.
You would be holding a hard drive with a game on it. When you hold a CD/DVD/BR you are holding the game or album or whatever in your hands. I see where your coming from but it is a little different. When it comes to CD's, I love buying CDs but I always put them on my computer. There is something gratifying about being able to hold what you have purchased instead of seeing a little icon on your computer screen saying you have it. Plus, if my hard drive fails I'm shit out of luck. @Clizz: Your right. When I download games from Blizzard or BioWare they allow me to download them any time I want. But I think holding my games and music in my hands is the biggest thing for me. I love looking over at my CD rack or my Games rack or my DVD rack and thinking, "Holy shit I have a lot of shit." I gotta expand on my book case though I'm watching way too much anime. Damn you Demonoid!
Nahh, for once I'mma have to disagree with you SOAD. As Remember above me said, if you're HDD fails with your 20+ beloved Arcade Downloadables on it, you're going to be weeping for a good long time. But then again, because of Cloud Services linking purchased games to your Original Account, even IF your HDD crashes, you can still redownload your collection back to your new HDD for no charge (At least that's how it works with MSFT, dunno bout Sony).
owning a collections of burned games or a pile of files on a drive sint satisfingi look at my ps3collection i see titles i can admire artwork pressed disc heck one if the games i really enjoyied is off being autographed by the dev team and im gointo ask another company to do the same i support ocmpanys but i like having material ican examine admire rather then C:\windows\programfiles\steam \games\halflife discs feel real regardless of weather a dled game works or not it doesnt 'feel' real to me and as for what someoen said about torrenting i do that with films i buy a dvd and dl a divx of it for my drive cause i cant be assed doing it myself all my films i ligetimitly own somewhere
With SOAD I'd also vote disagree because I'd rather physically own something without being restricted to a flash/external drive, especially if a friend wants to demo something before final thoughts of a purchase. The only thing I usually put on flash/external drives is music for psp and backing up data to save on space on my notebook. Short answer is everyone has a preference, mine is physically owning the cd/dvd.
How do I not own this monster stack of games, dvd's and blu rays right next to my TV? Has somebody been playing tricks on me?
if i cant hold it its not mine yea i can hold the hard drive but the content in it is managed by the company that i would have bought it from saying that you can never sell it or even give it away ,after a couple of years that dlc will be worthless and what if you buy a game that really sucks are you just gonna say oh well 60 bucks gone and not be able to sell it ?if thats your idea of ownership god help us all
what happens when this gen is over and you lose your HDD? What happens if Steam dies off in 5 years? You only have access to the DL games for a certain amount of time, but inevitably, it will be over. Some people still have their NES consoles and games, even their Colecovisions and games. If there was Dig. Dist. back then, you really think you'd still be getting the option to redownload games this far into the future? No, which is why the most effective and assured way to game for the long term is with physical copies. On top of that, you can resell them to someone or trade them with a friend, etc... I love the convenience of DD, but I love the peace of mind of physical media even more. Physical media wins.
Downloadable games will not happen any time soon. Not until there is a constant fast internet available, which there isn't, to enough people. Some parts of the UK do not even have broadband yet.
Downloadable games are happening as we speak. People can download full games off of XBL, PSN, and STEAM. You're just expecting for discs to remain a standard for many years, and I guess that's true. But discs may be released by some other physical medium, like SSD cards or USBs.
I mean every game being downloadable as this article is about CDs becoming history. The problem with using USB drives for CD is that the game must be download first and the speed of the internet for most people is not fast enough. I can see CDs lasting for at least 10 more years most likely even longer until the infrastructure of fast internet increases.
Yeah. I have 32 PS3 games.. (in bluray) I have over 40 games on my Ps3 HDD.. (10 of them being full retail games) I have 29 360 games.. (in DVD) I have 37 full retail games on my HDD =/ I prefer digital media for my 360 :D I sure would like more full retail games on PSn.. too limited retail games (like wipeout.. GT5p.. infamous.. etc etc) are available at the moment.
My 52 Steam games beg to differ :P
sorry but I like my game collection to be physicaly there! seeing my collection of all Final fantasy games on my shelf at home is just freaking sweet. I got all the twisted metals, the god of wars, halo, gears, mana series and many others! downloadable titles isn't as impressive compared to this. keep it simple please.
I think I'm with soad this time...lets see the pro and the cons IMO... Digital content's goods 1 - Digital content doesn't cratch. 2 - Digital content can't get lost/Stolen. 3 - Digital content could be CHEAPER. 4 - Digital content gives more support for the DEVS. 5 - Digital content can be accessed easily w/e much fus, example mult disc for xbox, one disc for ps3, no disc but only switch on the console and there you go. 6 - Digital content may have more availability, reliability and so the system may have less chance of overheating, longer life span. Cons 1 - Internet 2 - Space 3 - Digital content can get corrupted, but so can you replace it by re-downloading. Physical Disc's goods 1 - Disc doesn't need internet, DC yes. 2 - Disc give the satisfaction of owning the material... 3 - Can be exchanged. Cons 1 - , Disc scratched but... 2 - Stolen, lost. 3 - If you have over let say 200 games, fuss to find that game you want. ya? 4 - Could be getting any expensive for future case "if the economy continue like so" 5 - And like I said, a spinning disc is certainly the 80% of caused for the system failure, BD reader death, so overheat for the xbox. In fact, the whining around is only for needing the feeling of owning the physical material only? come on...better say you don't have a good speed, in the other side for the guy above. How about having a library with all your games where you can access them and organize them digitaly? lets say the 12 FF games out there each in order which by a single click there you go, instead of taking out the disc, put the other FF game's disc etc, IN FACT, yes it is the future.
I'm gonna add some more to the list: for Digital Pros 7. Can be compressed to save space Cons 4. DRM issues; especially if they are tied to specific hardware or an account 5. Take up space over time (Yes I stated can be compressed however even with compression space can still be limited) for Physical Pros 4. Can make good drink coasters or Frisbees 5. Can be worth $ (Excellent Collector items) Cons 6. More $ for maintenance
Forgot... Let me add the best one and what will make DC the future over physically media... The piratery of videogames will be OVER...
i just don't have the same respect for things that i don't physically possess, dl games feel "cheap" to me. demos are for dl, games are meant to be owned and held.
Dear lord, man. It's the same damn game file. The CD disc is what's cheap. A detachable hard-drive can hold more games and other files. I guess the cover art for the CD case is what makes you think you actually own the game. That's very poor reasoning.
I don't see these disc going out anytime soon. While poeple love the ability to download stuff, my self included. I don't love the waiting for a two to six gig file to download. I don't have a download limit cap, as some others may have, but I also don't have a T3 line going to my router.
I really appreciate this feedback. I think a followup article containing this feedback will be very nice. Some of these things I was not aware of. I do agree that gamers will always want that "possession" of actual games instead of just downloads. I also was not aware that many in the UK don't even have the capability yet to make this happen on a regular basis. Thank for all this information. I will be doing a follow up with this information in mind. I'm really happy to be a part of a community like this to learn more and be able to write better articles. You guys would really be awesome with the kind of feedback you give with one of my articles called "Whats Next for The Next Generation Of Gaming" Your feedback is honestly superb and helpful. Jordan
Well, if you insist. What can I say, I'm pretty awesome :)
Though I don't think disk will ever die, I would like CD and other spinning disks to die. I think that the regular SD card is the perfect size for a disk. Mini SD are too small though, I afraid Im going to drop and loose mine every time i take it out of my phone.
DVDs are becoming history
Amen, Blu-Ray and/or HVD will be where it's at in the next decade.
It hardly matters what disk format you use, the disk format will be around for a long time, if music starts shipping on DVD's or blu-rays...it will simply help bring the prices down for the players and cars will have a blu ray player automatically... + stereo sound is getting a little old...
I like a physical copy of things sorry thats just me. Plus with blueray they don't scratch anymore which I'm pleased about. Well I mean its hard for them to scratch if thats a better way to put it. My problem is they need to make the cases better. I only buy collector editions of games since I hate the damn plastic cases.
"Plus with blueray they don't scratch anymore That might be so but i've bought more faulty Blu-Rays than I ever did DVDs...maybe it's something to do with the manufacturing process...no scratches...skipping like crazy, and I have 2 Blu-Ray players...it did it on both. I rented 5 copies of the watchment on Blu-Ray ( each time exchanging it for a 'working' one...all were F-ed up..I asked if they had been hired out a lot, he told me I was the first. It has happened with several I have bought too.
Oh wow man that sucks. I personally never had a problem with blueray. I hope that never happens to me. I think its a problem with the Manufacturing process then. If its skipping like crazy and there is no scratches something has to be wrong when they made it.
What are you doing to those blu-rays no problems whatsoever with blu-ray, bought a couple of used games for my PS3 no problem. Drop a couple on the carpet still work. Seriously, are you pouring coffee, knifing them or something.
I had over 500 cd's none of them are scratched, I take imacculate care of everything I own, the fault is not with me, every disk does back in it's case after coming out of that player...all are ordered, never touch anything but the edges of the disks... Quit for fanboy B.S I didn't call sony out, I stated the truth, I have bought around 30blu rays, 5 of them have been f-ed up...none of them have scratches of any kind. I have 300+ dvds...only 1 didn't work, my foo fighters live dvd
CDs ARE becoming history. But NOT physical media. Physical media is going to be here for a good long time, because humans like being able to see and touch. One of the reasons Holographic Girlfriend AIs will never be a viable business. However that being said, for right now, I think that DVDs can still be milked a little longer. Because to this day, I'm yet to hear about anybody using DVD+R DL/DVD+R9 to make games on the Xbox 360, and DVD+R9s can hold up to 17 GBs (8.5 GBs on each layer).
CDs and vinyl are the only ways to buy music.
I understand your point, but Blu-ray music is amazing as well.
Do they actually sell music on Blu-rays? It would be like an even higher end version of SACD I suppose, but I think that would be kind of excessive as most people couldn't tell the difference between normal CDs and SACDs.
Neil Young also released the archives in Blu. Tom Petty and the Heartbreaker's just released Mojo in lossless 7.1. I really like that one a lot. I'd love to hear more music genres since it's really nice for people who actually want sit down and listen to music with the best possible experience. MP3's are great for portability, but my ears can tell the difference with a lossless track fairly quickly.
I hope not, I still think CDs are great.
As game sizes increase over the generations physical media will never go away (anytime soon). Downloading gigs and gigs of data can be time consuming for many, especially Blu-Ray based titles. It's more convenient for me to drive to a retailer and drive back home and have my game. It'll be quicker for me. The PS4 games will be larger than PS3 games in file size, by at least double most likely. I won't download a single full PS3 title, and downloading FF7 off PSN took me several hours as my connection sucks. Physical media will most likely not die anytime soon. A lot of people still depend on it for delivery.
False I just downloaded via STEAM the valve pack which is: Half Life Half Life source Half Life blue shift Half Life Opposing Force Half Life 2 Half Life 2 episode one+two Half Life 2 deathmatch Half Life 2 lost coast Counterstrike Counterstrike source Counterstrike condition zero Portal Day of Defeat Day of Defeat source Left4Dead Left4Dead 2 Ricochet Team Fortress Team Fortress 2 It took me 3 days on 2mbps on my brand new PC. I also downloaded Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell chaos theory + America's Army 3 (free of charge of course). In total download I only wasted 10 MBs!!!! Wow 10 mbs on 17 games+DLC content. So, what do you want me to say digital distribution works.
would take up 20% of the 250 gb slim harddrive if it was downloadable. Until huge hard drives are standard,then its not a reality for console gaming for at least 5 to 10 years. I upgraded my 2 ps3's to 500gb each,but not everyone will do that. So just like Microsoft with the no HD Arcade, console makers need every piece of equipment roughly the same to implement big changes like that.
For music purposes I still buy CDs, everything else is either DVD [360 - sometimes movies if it's not on blu-ray] or blu-ray. Until I can get some kind of Mp3 player put in my car I will still utilize CDs. Of which I will still gladly and proudly buy.
cd and dvd are becoming history but bluray is here to stay. Physical media is here to stay. If developers go the way of downloadable games it will be downgrade because they need to keep the game size small for the people who have slow internet.
I see people say this a lot, but the problem with this argument is that a internet connection is becoming the cable, phone, etc bill all in one, you can make calls over skype, watch movies and TV on services like hulu and veoh, the average intenet speed in countries like Japan are around 100Mb/s (about 12.5 MB/s) and is not as much of a problem as previously thought it would be, and the overall purchased:used capacity of ISPs is low, they could upgrade if they really wanted to but they havent, one concern that is worth fretting is caps, comcast has a 250GB cap, and if you just watch youtube videos and general purpose like that you won't exceed your cap, but if you start downloading a lot of movies and games you can expect to be doing it or at least getting close, and comcasts cap is generous, in other countries it's not enough for general use, a friend of mine in austrailia has a 20GB cap and I use about 40GB a month. Add this with a whole family sharing digital media and you quickly exceed your cap, especially with some PS3 games getting up to 40GB and blu-ray movie rips are around 10GB. However, the government would hopefully step in and say no to the caps, the extra bandwidth doesn't actually cost them anything, but rather it's a way of saying "slow down" to stop the network from being too overcrowded causing a slowdown. I am opposed to this cloud computing as you don't own the games you license them, and theres nothing like paying to play games you (supposedly) already own. Steam is a good digital distribution model and I wish all industries would use one like it, it's also offered combatant to piracy with it being digital, as with a lot of things if you want it digitally you have to download it, or rip it yourself, which not everyone has the equipment to do.
Downloadable media will never replace physical media entirely. Some of us will always want a print of what the media is. I for one can download movies and games from a website but will always buy the physical copy if I want to keep it. I have hundreds of cd/dvd games/movies/albums and will never part with them for a downloadable substitute.
Its just a fact that many want to souvenir of having possession of something physical. Buying a download, they can't see it physically so its seems like their money went to nothing. Its just something people will have to get used to eventually. Downloadable media is tomorrows technology. If you had a company that created games, would you pay the money to have disks made when you could easily make near the same amount of money by making it downloadable media instead? Yours profits would even out easily by saving the money that you would have invested in the CDs, labor and shipping costs. Then you could put additions to your games out there for additional costs. Its a win win situation. Once downloadable media catches one more and more, CDs will be less and less. The CDs will become collectors items once day. So good idea is to save em. Wheather people like it or not, its the new technology and its going to eventually happen. Yes we all like the physical item but its just not needed anymore. Jordanemery
Anybody knows were I could rent games by my area (Bell Gardens, CA) almost every blockbuster and hollywood video is closed? Yeah this digital download stuff ended renting games. Great now I have to buy every game unless I want to pay a monthly subscription lame.
Gamefly.com Its just like Netflix but for gaming instead. Try it out. Jordan
becoming? they are history CD sales down over 80% thanks to DLed option the days of getting screwed over by SONY and other Studios for paying 15.99 for a cd with 3 good songs on it are over Games arent made on CD anymore CDs are good for one thing, FreeWare and Drivers and nothing else However Watch out the next XBOX might use CD as its gaming format since its hates bluray =), I kid I kid
I sorta suprised no one mentioned the crisis core ex. And to be honest dl can except error, cd can't. basically you owning the original copy while they edit the dl.
For PC maybe. for consoles not anytime soon.
Not for a while still.
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