Let's take a moment to push for the end of the pointless war that nobody wanted; the costly quagmire that's drained resources and consumed the media with its constant, bloody scrimmages.
lol I stopped reading at this line. ***In the past few weeks, Sony’s Blu-ray next-generation DVD format has enjoyed several victories over Toshiba’s rival HD DVD: Target will sell only Blu-ray players this holiday season.*** Target will still sell HD-DVD.
and they will sell HD DVD standalone players online. But they will sell PS3 and standalone blu-ray players in store and online. Edit: How can you disagree this is what target said. lol Edit2:This is from Forbes.com who actually spoke to Target. http://www.forbes.com/feeds... this is what it says Target (nyse: TGT - news - people ) said it will sell the Sony (nyse: SNE - news - people ) BDP-S300 for $499 in October and display it along with Blu-ray DVDs from three studios, including Sony Corp. and The Walt Disney Co. (nyse: DIS - news - people ), at the ends of store aisles. Target does not sell high-def DVD players in its stores, although it does sell a Toshiba HD DVD player for $299 on its Web site. Target stores do sell an HD DVD add-on for the Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) Xbox 360. They also sell Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 3, which comes with a Blu-ray player built in. Target would not say why it decided to sell only Blu-ray players in stores. Sony is paying a fee to have its products featured in the end-of-aisle display, called an endcap, although Sony executives said the retailer contacted them about the decision. "We are not proclaiming one format vs. the other as the preferred consumer technology, and software will continue to be available to our guests in both the Blu-ray and HD DVD format," Target spokeswoman Brie Heath said. Target will track customer feedback and adjust offerings as necessary, Heath said.
www.amazon.com/dvd www.eproductwars.com/dvd BLUE RAY is beating HD DVD 3: 1 in US ....8:1 in EU and 9:1 in JAPAN. console war is finished. sell your HD DVD addon
@ drtysouf21 @ nasim @ anyone else that disagrees with me. http://www.n4g.com/tech/New... Turns out they're just installing Blu-ray aisle end caps, thanks to a new promotional deal with Sony, but HD DVD isn't going anywhere. http://www.engadget.com/200... There you guys go. Proof.
be back with the link.... This is from Forbes.com who actually spoke to Target. Your links are from the same story at Engadget who spoke to Major Nelson from Microsoft. Who are you going to believe Major Nelson or Target the company that made the announcement. http://www.forbes.com/feeds... this is what it says Target (nyse: TGT - news - people ) said it will sell the Sony (nyse: SNE - news - people ) BDP-S300 for $499 in October and display it along with Blu-ray DVDs from three studios, including Sony Corp. and The Walt Disney Co. (nyse: DIS - news - people ), at the ends of store aisles. Target does not sell high-def DVD players in its stores, although it does sell a Toshiba HD DVD player for $299 on its Web site. Target stores do sell an HD DVD add-on for the Microsoft (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people ) Xbox 360. They also sell Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 3, which comes with a Blu-ray player built in. Target would not say why it decided to sell only Blu-ray players in stores. Sony is paying a fee to have its products featured in the end-of-aisle display, called an endcap, although Sony executives said the retailer contacted them about the decision. "We are not proclaiming one format vs. the other as the preferred consumer technology, and software will continue to be available to our guests in both the Blu-ray and HD DVD format," Target spokeswoman Brie Heath said. Target will track customer feedback and adjust offerings as necessary, Heath said. Edit @ below I've had your comments on ignore for a long time now but i noticed in some stories you posted below me. I can't see what your saying nor do i wish to because usually they are filled with nonsense and it looks like the other 8 people that have you on ignore agree with me. So its pointless to reply to me because i do not see your comments. Have a nice day!
Yes drty! preach the word brother! we must stop the conspiracy of major nelson and microsoft. *rolls eyes* http://www.engadgethd.com/2... The HD DVD PR team sent us a statement from Universal Studios VP Ken "Graffeo stating the deal amounted only to an "end cap" purchased by Sony putting its BDP-S300 in stores."
I'd keep going till the bitter end cause frankly... it only hurts your competion
It also hurts the consumer alot more. It's selfish. Edit:...someone has a vendetta against me. I can't escape getting disagreed with.
Let's have a good, clean fight! May the best high-definition commercial video format win!
poor Toshiba. this is what happens when you allign yourself with a loser -MS
how would xbox lose???
Because fanboys believe that Microsoft created HD-DVD and that somehow it is tied to Xbox. But the rest of us live in the real world and know that HD-DVD and Xbox 360's only connection is an add-on drive that you don't have to buy if you don't want it.
Another day, another similar article. I called this spamming.
I guess i'll read it now.
Blu ray for the victory. Why is HD DVD keep fighting it with cheap prices.
They are using the same approach that Sony used with the PS3 Price cut. Or added SKU depending on whether you a fan or a fanboy.
If you can’t stop talking about the “size of your disc”…. You might be a Blu boy! If you watch High-def on a GAME SYSTEM and then say HD DVD interactivity is overrated…. You might be a Blu boy! If you say web features are overrated, then brag about PS3’s included Wi-Fi…. You might be a Blu boy! If you say HD DVD is dead with a 33% market share, yet PS3 is “on track” with a 20% market share…. You might be a Blu boy!
as for BOTS x360 isnt losing...it is dying www.vgcharts.org look at the dismal sales data. even in NA ..ps3 has surpassed x360 in monthly sales in JULY
Man at least show that you have one ounce of objectivity in you body. I remember when the PS3 was at the bottom of all charts including VGCharts. I never once heard you say that the PS3 was dead. Perhaps, if you made a sensible comment instead of blurting out HATE all the time that people would take you more seriously. You are the epitome of a sony FANBOY. The perfect example of a Lemming. You say HDDVD and XBOX360 is dead, then you state that DISNEY only backs Blu-Ray (As if DISNEY is the defacto standard) yet, DISNEY also are on the XBOX LIVE Market Place. Please man, show me that you can do it and make one statement that shows that you can think and respond with some objectivity. Thanks Dude
I think that its funny that the PS3 beats the 360 in sales for one month and suddenly the 360 is dead. Gotta love fanboy logic.
I looked at it PS3 sales are down and 360 sales are up.
Based on "VGCHARTS" numbers the PS3 Sells are down. And the 360 is up. It's simple, it's in black and white, The current trend has the PS3 sells down a bit. I don't understand why people are disagreeing with you.
The fundamental flaw with Blu-ray’s strategy is that people still know a good value when they see it. Despite the press spin, HD DVD players are still selling better than Blu-ray players because they do pretty much the same exact thing, but at a better price. With the new Blu-ray spec in November requiring extra hardware, the prospect of cheaper Blu-ray players weakens and Sony has already stated the PS3 will go back to $599 (the lose $200 on each system sold at the moment). It appears that HD DVD will keep its pricing advantage throughout the holidays and it becomes clear why the Sony / Blu-ray company line had been “HD DVD is dead.” If they can’t convince people that HD DVD is a dead format, then they will lose this holiday, probably in a landslide.
WOW!! that's a wishful thinking from someone in HD-DVD camp. Keep discounting PS3 as blu-ray player and your landslide you hope will not happen. maybe it already happenned in your mind.
HD-DVD adopter feel good until they just realized they lost access to like 3 Major movie studios. GG.
With Xbox 360 undercutting PS3 for games, HD DVD undercutting PS3 for movies and Sony still losing $200 on every unit sold... it's going to be a very difficult holiday for Sony & Blu-ray.
yeah, it's going to be very smooth sailing for Toshiba. Disney/Pixar will be more title this holiday season, consider where toshiba is now, it take more than difficult time, they will need a miracle to save them.
if you haven't heard the news. The PS3 is supposed (or on track) to turn into profit 1Q08. I also doubt, that they make a loss on the $499 machine (not in production any more - the losses are written off already), the 80Gig (and PAL version) is cost reduced already and closer to a break even then the $499 version, I'd guess 1Q08 will see another HW update (possibly without the GS - but, what's that part now ? Below $50 I'd guess, if a complete PS2 makes profit at $129), a bigger saving might come from 65nm parts next year. Current vgcharts beat x360 sales on a global scale, while I don't say, this is over yet, it show the 360 is not outselling the PS3 any more. I believe they will come to par soon, with a better end for the PS3, eventually. Games are coming - for PS3 and 360. Who ever wants Halo has a 360 already, I doubt, the mass didn't buy a 360 because Halo3 wasn't out yet (and even if, these guys and gals are most likely Xbox converts, rather then pre PS2 customers). BluRay is here to stay - even if, say hypothetical HD-DVD will win. On the other side, HD-DVD will disapear, should BluRay win. So, IMO, the risk is clearly in the HD-DVD camp. BD Players will go down in price, $300-$400 no name brands will pot up. The $50 cost advantage won't be worth the risk (well, I'd say, the $250 isn't - you get the fastest console for that $250 extra, just as a gimmick, beside other goodies under the hood). True, the cheapest way to get HD content on disk is HD-DVD - if you could only find a cheap HD TV, though (out that in relation, and the player price is not that relevant). It will play a bigger role, when HD TVs will be cheaper and wide spread. But until then, again, and that is what the article also said, BD has more headroom in the price. Toshiba could do everybody a favor and simply drop out, please. I don't care if they are the underdog, this time. It's just not worth it. I am a customer, and its a useless war.
I'm under the impression HD DVD was out first instead of having the lead there playing catch up. Last I seen 300 is selling more, and be rented more on Blu ray but like you said it must be those stand alone blu ray player. Just keep living in denial as last generation millions and millions of ppls first DVD player was a PS2. This war has been over ever since HD DVD lower it price hoping would spark some interest but the fact remains it hasn't. Poor HD DVD fanboy are we still waiting on those cheap HD DVD player from China just one question where I'm I gonna be able to buy them at. Target?Bj's?Woolworth?, and when I get my new *cheaper* HD DVD player I guess I'm gonna have to rent movie for it maybe I'll run over to local blockbuster. This war is over and has been over can we all just move on now.
"Just keep living in denial as last generation millions and millions of ppls first DVD player was a PS2." - Very good point!! bubble 4 u
"Let’s take a moment to push for the end of the pointless war that nobody wanted; the costly quagmire that’s drained resources and consumed the media with its constant, bloody scrimmages..." Jeez, I'm surprised the author didn't close with a call for Toshiba's "exit strategy." But others might see this as simply a "cut-and-run." Let's take a moment to remember there are REAL wars out there, the "cost" of which is far greater than any format or platform. I'm saddened when something as triffling as a war between Blu Ray vs HD DVD sparks more interest, opinion and heated debate than those of true human importance. I AM SORRY for my brief political-ish diatribe, but somehow this format thing is getting tiresome. *braces for certain forum backlash*
Hey I have an idea, if you would like to win the presidential race in this country, just run a campaign that says "I FULL AND COMPLETELY SUPPORT BLU-RAY" and you will blindly get to vote of 75% of the sony fanboys that are of legal age to vote....(humor) I think this entire blu-ray/HDDVD war is part of doing business, the thing that strikes me a strange is how fanboys cannot support something and allow someone else to support different without bashing their opponents choices or the person themselves. I say Regular DVD is winning the war, kinda like people keep bringing up the ps2, the regular DVD is the PS2. Why is it that no one is taking that angle?
Greg: Even though Microsoft isn't as involved as Sony, at least it is an American Company. Why Americans are so quick to give their money to Sony and Japan is beyond me. It seems to me that some of the younger generations of Americans are happy with this format war and want Sony to win. All while they complain about not having the money to buy the stuff and wait for the price to come down. Just wait, you will begin to have less and less money because you are filling the Japanese pockets. Toshiba is selling a great machine at a great price. I am not complaining about one culture or race, only why Americans do