NowGamer: Legendary developer Peter Molyneux has revealed the latest version of the Kinect game Milo & Kate at the TEDglobal event in Oxford...
and here come the haters, 3.....2.....1........
its 3, 2, 1...
Milo: Want to play with my wii? Katie: OK!
SOAD: Want to repeat a joke you've read a hundred times before? Obama: I'm one step ahead of you.
Microsoft are pushing the boundaries when it comes down to Next level of interaction between AI and finally they may have cracked the once impossible task which scientist have been struggling for years to achieve the perfect AI. Milo will change how we interact with AI and set a stepping stone for the FUTURE. Milo is groundbreaking and only possible on xbox360.
See a doctor
Only possible on 360? It's made on a PC dude.
Every console game is made on a PC... Dude.
So not "only possible"
You really think they'd pull that off? hell no It'll end up as a good well hidden smoke and mirrors It'll never understand what you're saying... it'll only be programmed to give that impression... I see this as kinectimals with a person
To have the ability to have real conversations with an AI person, you'll need a program and system that can read body language, and a database that's well past the limitations of DVD9. Milo would/could not even know the difference if you were giving a high five or flipping the bird at him. He doesn't understand sarcasm, love, anger, laughter. When you watch the Kinectimals/Milo demos, you can see that the reactions and emotions and gestures of the player font effect the AI at all. When Milo tripped and Skittles fell, both actresess gasped "worried about AI", but the creature/kid ds not acknowledge the concern of the player. No one will have a relationship with a program, Milo is no different than a digital furby. The only way you get emotion attachment is to put the player in a situation that can grow a relationship. If you found skittles bloody and beaten, and had to save it's life. The stress from the game will force you into an emotional connection. It's only childish fun. Nintendogs/EyePet in MS style.
If you knew anything about programming, you would know that the DVD-9 has plenty of space for AI code. High definition textures and audio are limited by DVD-9. Behavior code doesn't take up more than a few hundred kilobytes of memory. Stop spreading FUD.
at soad. If you knew what kind of AI mister molyneux is trying to make. You didn't need to write this message... It's impossible for technology to recreat a computer being that "understand" Milo would try to let you believe it understands...but it'll be just programmed AI not a AI that "lives".
Yeah, I don't believe in true AI, either. But I'm just saying that behavioral code doesn't take nearly as much space as Necrum thinks.
What you are talking about was possible on the Dreamcast with Seaman. That was 10 years ago! So you really think a game console can't achieve something like this now?
AAACE5 Seaman, doesn't understand you ^^ you even saw it work? Molyneux tries to replicate a "human being" as a game... sorry It's a brilliant idea, but A human being can't be made by technology. You'll see... it'll end up as minigames with milo, with some chitchat that he'll reply too, but will not understand. There's a big difference in "understanding" and speaking ^^
Nice to see devs like Peter Molyneux trying to push the envelope for interaction. I hope they implement this tech in a Kinect game somehow.
he said himself its the same tech.
That was debunked by the Kinectimals devs
Milo really sounds depressed about his recent move. Poor fella...
I really want to get my hands on this tech demo. If it's real, it should be interesting stuff.
Really? So it learns this on the fly? I smell so much BS it's unbearable. I guess my car "learns" to drive faster after hesitating at first in a game when I mod it. Can we see it? Please?
seriously, you have seen nothing and are still listening to the same old lies. buy it, i'm not stopping you, but make some room in your drawer alongside your HD-DVD
fear, uncertainty, doubt. tell them how much microsoft sucks as well. keep going through the 360 threads and tell them how they make bad decisions and that they should stop liking what they like and should start liking what you like.
any bets as to whether it was pre-recorded stuff they showed lol??
The Chris Angel of gaming.
Well, at least Chris Angel is entertaining.
is that you?
Good stuff, People who bash this, i just don't understand, If this what its suppose to be then awesome, Why wouldn't you want this to work. How cool would it be to have better interaction with the game, it would me you feel more like the character.
are akin to the people that tell you wrestling is fake. Anybody with a shred of common sense knows it's just a program. Certain things are "taught" to the program to give the "impression" of an actual conversation or interaction. Anyone who believes it is supposed to be like talking to a real person is the one with issues, not the people excited for the tech. ALL video games are smoke & mirrors. When you give a voice command in Rainbow Six or Socom, do you think the NPC actually understands you? If you said to him/her "Jump off that building & shoot the tank." will they do it? No, because they aren't programmed to understand that command. Milo is no different. Why people keep talking about it as if it's Johnny 5 from Short Circuit or the A.I. from Eagle Eye, I don't know.
@ Grown Folks talk so be it, my point is that no one on here has seen this program, so how can one hate it so much, you know nothing, I no nothing , nobody does!!!!!!!!!! all i'm saying is that if this the begining of AI interaction, one should be excited not hate critisize, this tech is coming sooner or later And my bet is sooner. edit ... Of course its not going to be perfect and you probably have set words to say, but i still don't understand why more people aren't encourging this tech
I'm saying that bashing it as a lie about some super A.I. is stupid. Peter himself even had an interview after the initial showing stating it was programmed to give the illusion of an actual conversation. We know it's not true fully aware A.I. already. It's not possible to be. I'm looking forward to creative people pushing Kinect.
People bash it because of things like "with Milo demonstrating AI-driven facial expressions (with blush responses), learning to skim stones and after hesitating" Milo can't demonstrate sht. Like you say, it's all preprogrammed. So saying that something "learns" is an out and out lie.
I thought Milo and Kate was a lie...haters? Where you is?
It was a lie. It's not anymore. That doesn't change the fact that it WAS a lie. You would make a poor lawyer.
It's about time, Peter! Lol. Does anyone remember those fake AIM bots we all used to add as friends? They had pre-recorded responses to certain questions we would ask. Milo & Kate is essentially the same thing...but with a face to the bot. I hope this turns out well. Can we just get a Black & White 3 now? Milo and Kate is a great concept...and the execution will probably be good...but they need more than just a few responses to keep you entertained for even months. Then again...Furby did it just fine. Sadly...
Milo was learning to skim stones and after hesitating, "squashing a snail". This is gonna be a hardcore game!!! yes!!!
I wish I could find it but I dont remember where I saw it but it was an article where Molyneux admitted that milo is nothing more than smoke and mirrors. He said that its a program that tries to use certain tricks to involve the player and is nothing close to computer AI. . . I dont care either way I dont own a 360 but If it worked like the demo with kate (which was supposedly fake) I would be excited for something like this tricks or not.
From Milo demonstration here: http://n4g.com/news/563658/...
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