VG247 writes: Guerrilla Games boss Herman Hulst has told Gamepro that Killzone 3’s Helghast are more then just orange-eyed evil fuck-heads. They still have a human side left in them.
I would hope so: would definitely add to the narrative to make the player question whether killing them off merciless is deserved. Either way, KZ2 was awesome: I expect KZ3 to be as well:)
I wanna see Sev swap sides!
zootang, u gay??
@Mr Tretton Would that be a problem??
Take a joke plz? (;
I think I've heard there would be several factions within the Hellgasts, so this might happen, who knows... Maybe a part of the Hellgast and ISA will join against... mmmh let's say the UCA, that would be a crazy mess ^_^
Those days are behind us lets move on.
but the thing is does the ISA have any humanity??? They are the dicks in Killzone.
i wanna see ISA defeated at the end of KillZone 3 and have in KillZone4 the ISA having to escape imprisonment and rebuild THEIR army and nation just like the helgast had to do. im actually sick of me "winning" in EVERY single game i play lol. change it up guerrilla! change the ever so boring pattern of video games in general!
No no no, we wouldn't want them to change anything up. If they did, then a bunch of whiners would complain until it was more like the "other FPS" games they play. Don't be ridiculous postedup.
First off, there's nothing wrong with being gay. Also I thought Tretton's comment was funny, it was simply a play on words since he said swap sides. I laughed
But the Helghast execute their own because of uniform violations. That's so inhumane.
that was radec.. he was a sick bastard.. but that doesnt make every helgast the same...
What if the ISA has been the bad guys the entire time? And in Killzone 3 Sev discovers that and switches sides. That'd be a badass plot twist if you ask me :D
If you know the original story, they "kind of" are the bad guys since they oppressed the Helghast in the first place. I found the teaser trailer interesting when the ISA soldier puts the helmet on after beating that dude down. Not sure what that meant.
that was sev..
Edit: double post....srry
they fought Helghan's invasion of the foreign planet in the 1st, right? although in KZ2 they did look like the bad one because they are the one invading Helghast, but they have the first KZ as the reason to do so and they were supposed to; **********SPOILER ALERT*************** * capture Visari alive, not kill him * ***************************** ********* but Sev wearing the helmets at the end of the trailer may be some kind of a sneaking mission or something or maybe just to survive living in Helghast, you know, because the air is contaminated and everything. at least that's what I think
Suppose in a way the Helgan are in the right doing what they do so technicaly the ISA are the evil ones ? but then again the Helghast attacked Vekta so that would make the Helghast evil ? Either way KILLZONE IS AMAZING!
I always thought of the Helghast as essentially the good guys, defending their home from the imperialist ISA. The fact that we play as the ISA in campaign mode was brilliant, as it made us really question why we were perpetrating genocide on a group of people (even if the story itself was a little weak). Guerilla is a Dutch developer; perhaps they are indirectly criticizing American foreign policy by implementing this juxtaposition of each side's motives for war. Or maybe they didn't think the narrative through that much. Either way, I'm excited for Killzone 3.
the Helghast attacked the ISA planet Vekta in KZ1, the ISA launched a counter attack on Helghan in KZ2. The Helghast are hardly an innocent party.
But the Helghast were forced to move to Helghan by the Vektans, who treated them as second class citizens, and the Helghast only attacked Vekta to, essentially, protect their borders. It's an amazing story, poorly told in KZ2, and not as clear cut as "bad/good. Shoot kill shoot".
though the Helghast do have blood on their hands, Vekta was their planet FIRST, and in KZ1 they were trying to take it back. Trying to take back a former colony that was stolen from you is not the same as trying to conquer another foreign country unprovoked.
Helghasts owned both the planets the ISA stole Vektan... Read the full story its awesome... http://www.killzone.com/kz/...
Both are bad guys, Helghast are like a Fascist society built for fighting with only war in mind, while the ISA is kind of the America of G.W.Bush, there is no 1 "good side"
The helghast's hatred is no diffrent from that of the Germans after the defeat of WW1 and the Treaty of Versailles.
Actually, if you delve into the mythos of the Killzone universe, Helgan didn't exist as a inhabited planet. The Helgans were the first Vektans. Helgan was a resource planet, and Vekta was a "breadbasket" if memory serves. Vekta was first attacked because they refused to "fall in line" and accept levies against Vekta. Previously, Vekta bought their sovereignty outright from Earth at at time when Earth was in a worldwide depression (if I remember correctly). Soon after, Vekta cleverly imposed taxes and charges to travelers because the Helgan space station was the hub from Earth to the rest of the galaxy's inhabited planets; by doing so, Vekta became the richest planet in the known galaxy. After Helgan was defeated in war by the UCA, they tried to stir up a rebellion on Vekta, but were again crushed by the Alpha Centauri branch of the ISA, which were put in charge of Vekta. While some Vektans wanted to just live in peace, the rest wanted to leave and did so... for Helgan. Add a radiation that causes pasty-white skin and your hair to fall out, and about one hundred years to stew in your own fail, and you get a motivated and pissed-off group you see shooting back at you today.
when people can have a disscussion and both sides present really good evidence as to why they are right you know you created something really good. the helghast are among the best enemies ever created in a game because they can be either victims or blood thirsty space nazis depending on who you talk to.
The entire point is that it's morally grey. There's no good side to this war.
I cant wait to play this game now that I heard they fixed the controls. Now hopefully they fix and revamp the online so I can concentrate on all the good things about this next installment of the franchise.
The online system was great. You didn't have to wait to play another game mode, you didn't have to get pissed off at bullshit matchmaking systems, you could fully customise the game however you wanted by hosting your own matches... If anything, it's the best system on consoles I've seen other than Warhawk's and UT3's. And I hope they don't change too much of the gameplay mechanics to make it more noob-friendly. I loved how it actually took aiming skills and skill/strategy to win in the multiplayer, unlike in COD.
Helghast are fun to kill. If they presented the story better than maybe I'd feel the situation differently, but I don't. Helghast are bad, I'm good. I go pew-pew at bad guys. I do prefer playing as the Helghast online though
Well it sounds like the story is going to turn out better than Killzone 2. I always did think the Killzone franchise had potential to tell a pretty compelling story. Hopefully they work on the dialogue too, that was my main problem with the last game.
The first two had excellent stories; almost a Mix of Star Wars and Platoon.
I've never played the first one but the setting and atmosphere in Killzone 2 was amazing. But the dialogue was just poorly done I thought.
It was poorly done in K2; Killzone 2 was the weakest in the bunch thus far in terms of storyline. Killzone 1 was a classic. Liberation for the PSP is probably one of the best PSP titles out. Here's a link to see Killzone 1, if you have a couple of hours per day for a few days: http://www.youtube.com/user... *he has a playlist of the whole thing, I think. Killzone's characters jelled really well together. They jacked it up in K2 by changing Rico into a guy with attitude into a dude with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, which made him a little quick on the draw and apt to maul his own soldiers, which wasn't him in the first two games at all. I'm sure Liberation is on youtube as well.
Do I smell a handshake at the end of Killzone 3
... there'll be a heavier focus on the Helghast's back story in Killzone 3! I'm really curious as to why the Helghast are the way they are, what caused their mutation (or evolution, as they might say).
this should help you out ;-) http://killzone.com/kz/stor...
Hey, thanks, this is just what I needed!
It wasn't until the ending cutscene with Visari's speech that I realized that the Helghast aren't all that bad. They're just retaliating because they believed they were wronged in the past.
But are the Helghast human? or are they dancers...
Their signs are vital...
Haha good one. Helghast are the good guys, I wanna see more of their 'human' side. Kind of like when Hakha in KZ1 was half helghast half human.
The ISA who lacked humanity. After all they are the oppressive invasive force o_o
seems like the story is gonna be deep,i cant wait to experience it.
We already knew that. Has anyone forgetten that a Helgast was on our side in the first game. He obviously still mantained his humanity. Off topic though I have never seen a female Helgast. The guy in KZ1 mentioned women and children so they do exist. I wonder how they look.Guerilla Games how about it?
This would be too brave & too controversial But this would be something that would make the game truly ground breaking
Sure they have a little left. Right before I stab them in the EYE!
I can't wait to play the epic single player and the amazing multi player.
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