GamerZines writes: Sony have revealed that during the design and development of their new PlayStation Move device, that it "wasn't the goal" for it to be seen to be a casual controller.
I'm only getting it ( as of now ) for LBP2 and Socom 4.
I'll be getting it for Sorcery and Echochrome 2 Edit: I'm also hoping for a new Top Spin tennis with Move support
LBP2 and children of eden and sorcery
yea i forgot about sorcery that looks good too
Singing my tune, Sony, keep it up and I'll be happy. Can't wait to play some shooters with this controller. I loved Metroid Prime 3 with that control style, and to have games to control like that with the increased precision and accuracy of the Move remote will be awesome. I hope someone makes some drivers for the PSeye, Move controller, and Navigation controller so I can play my PC games with this. I enjoy Sixense for PC games, but I think Move looks like a more comfortable remote and the accuracy definitely looks better. Edit: 2 things... First, sorry for responding to your comment Capt-Fuzzy-Pants, not sure how that happened. I meant to post a stand-alone comment. Second, I would like to explain the reason I want this for my PC gaming. While I am good with mouse/keyboard combo, much better in fact than with an Xbox 360 controller hooked up to my PC, I do have some nerve damage in my wrist and I can't play for very long without a lot of pain. I can play games with Sixense or the Wii-mote for hours on end and never get that wrist pain that playing with a mouse gives me. The Move/Nav combo looks like the best version of that control scheme, so good that hopefully it can be good enough to replace my mouse for some (I don't expect all) of my PC gaming, and I can prevent some of the wrist pain. So hopefully somebody releases downloads to make it work on PC.
here is my prdiction 3d might fail. Move will not.
That's where the money is. It worked pretty well for Nintendo. And let's face it, it's the casuals who want motion controls. Hardcore gamers just hope this is a phase the industry is going through...
Exactly, Sony needs to realize that people who want motion controls are casuals, Hardcore gamers want basic controller.
"because every gamer is a true gamer. motion gamers, sitting gamers, everyone. and though we may pledge fanboy allegiances to different flags, deep down inside we all serve one master, one king. and his name is GAMING, forever may he reign!"
I am a hardcore gamer, and will be getting move day 1 already have the camera. I think move will be surprising a lot of doubters well into the ps3 life cycle! And I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way.
I'm sure Sony knows that the majority of the Move crowd will be casuals, but if they market it to hardcore as well then they should get more adopters. Thats why they have an equal number of casual Move games to Hardcore games. I for one will be buying Move for its hardcore games. Like Sorcery, LBP2, KZ3, Socom and so on.
Is that why they already have their own collection of shovelware? It's cool that they are trying to cater to the hardcore but they are going to have a ton of Wii like titles and we all know it.
Of course there will be shovelware... they are also the only company out of the two doing HD that has shown any promise of hardcore games. Sony can't stop 3rd parties from making games... They can push their 1st party studios to make HC games for the Move. You know that is all that matters.
Yeah but Sony saying "We don't want PlayStation Move to be a casual controller" is crap. They designed the Move controller with stealing a share of the Wii marketplace in mind. They didn't just decide to make motion controllers out of the blue and they certainly didn't design it because we asked for it. I mean look at the commercials, they look pretty similar to the Wii commercials we have been seeing for years. You're telling me the "archery mom" is a hardcore gamer? I'm not saying they are wrong for targeting that market, it's actually the smart thing to do, but I'm not going to sit here and let them pull the wool over my eyes.
Point taken, but don't confuse shovelware with fun. I think that is where the problem is starting. The sports champions might be a bite on wiisports, but so what? Wii sports is one of the best offerings of motion gaming. Of course Sony will have their own version and no doubt it will be more accurate making it a better experience. I don't think you can fully call such an accurate experience casual. They have stated that if you suck at table tennis in RL, you will suck in game too... that is pretty hardcore. The definition of hardcore doesn't just mean the games will be shooters or fighters or whatever you have in your head. We will get a starwars game, LoTR style games, Sorcery type games, shooters, driving games, adventure games... sure there will also be casual games and I'm sure some stupid stuff like dancing games and fitness nonsense. And I'm sure 3rd parties will sneak in some garbage like cooking momma... but Sony's first party studios MAIN focus has always been their hardcore, gaming everyday, competitive audience. Their track record proves that... Why all the hostility and doubt?
Of course Sony has control of what games get released on the PS3 and they absolutely can control shovelware. Not to say that shovelware won't exist, but Sony can certainly limit it and keep the quality of the games high -- even the casual ones.
No hostility, just arguing my point. I just don't like having comapnies blatently lie to me, which is what I feel is going on here. There will be plenty of hardcore support, but as I have already said, this is clearly designed as direct competition to the Wii. Everyone wants a piece of that pie and I don't blame them, but don't tell me it's not a casual controller when it's main purpose is to compete with a casual gaming system. As I have already said, Sony didn't design this because hardcore gamers asked for it. I'm not saying shovelware can't be fun, but it's still shovelware. Yeah Wii sports can be entertaining and there are Wii games that can be enjoyable but you aren't going to sink 20 hours into Wii sports. Case and point, Heroes on the Move. That games is total shovelware and as much as everyone likes to think that Sorcery game is going to be awesome I bet we saw the best of it at E3.
Maybe it is being pushed now after the success of the Wii, but it can't be argued that Richard Marks has been working on the Move tech for about 10 years. And, the full quote from Marks is: "There's a big, simple button under your thumb and nice analogue buttons. So those are for the casual players, but then we had the original PlayStation symbols for the core experiences," Marks continues. "It was really important that the design appeal to both. We don't want it to be a casual controller, that wasn't the goal." Move it designed to appeal to both casual and hardcore, unlike the Wiimote and Kinect.
Well if thats the case, at least they won't be surprised when they don't get an increase in hardware sales, cause no hardcore gamer is going to buy a ps3 for Move
Nice to know that you speak on behalf of all PS3 gamers. Meanwhile, Skittles is waiting for you to purchase a new plush toy for kinectimals. Edit: Pretty sure that Hacker and Omega4 is the same person.
Then again why does it matter to you ? Or why would you wish for more casual crap on your beloved 360 ? all three manufacturers are healthy to a point where more money doesnt affect at all the quality of the "core" games . I really hope you are an employee or got microsoft shares , otherwise your life is just so pathetically sad
Amiright Nintendo? *high fives*
Downplaying it, lol. Seems like you want it to fail more than anyone else 0_o
@Omega4 The same way no hardcore games id going to buy an x360 + a $150 add-on camera to play wii like games...
Regardless of the console, it's all motion control, it's all potentially -- nay, guaranteed to be gimmicky, and it's all going to have heaps upon heaps of shovelware. So take your console wars somewhere else.
no matter how you spin it Sony - same goes for Kinect. I know I will get disagress but to all the harcore gamers who are disagreeing, I want you to make a video of your self holding a stick with a glowing ball on top while waggleing yours arms side to side. Tell me how harcore you look when you rewatch it : )
You must be new to gaming because tons of cats used to sit at the arcades for hours playing house of the dead, time crisis and many other shooters. Move is no different it's just more accurate and allows you to do many more things. Most of you kids never went to the arcades to play games, eat pizza and hock up with chicks. I guess it's nice being older and not brain dead!
and it has button to do more complex stuff so you have no point and you sound jaded what is you experience with move that has you so jaded
OK, so appearently Resident Evil 5, Killzone 3 and Socom 4 are now considered casual titles. Did I miss something?
Motion is casual..aha Super Mario Galaxy 1&2 says Hi.. along other great Wii titles :) ! Motion controller is a "TOOL" and the way you "USE THAT TOOL" will determine how casual or hardcore it is,and that's up to the developers and the companies (sony,microsoft,nintendo) to decide. Motion is casual...yeah,right... Edit : @ Ceekay,well said bro
http://www.youtube.com/watc... Guy never leaves his chair. He never waves his arms either.
you make it sounds as if you'd look smarter and cooler with a plastic controller in hands . Again some of you need to see instant shots of themselves while playing , between facial tics , tongue sticking out , burst of anger , joy , or plain weirdness ... then you'd stop caring about how you look while playing . Either we all look ridiculous while playing , whatever the controller . If that's your concern , go do a fashion show or find a "cool" hobby R2d2 , you're actually the one doing the spin , and turning it into a completely unrelated matter . Bottom line is can i play "hardcore" game from the get go with Move ? The answer is yes with a non exhaustive list of real games like gt5 , kz3 , socom , even that sorceror game etc .. Will it have shovelware crap ? obviously yes , with guys like ubisoft on the horizon . But a bit like nintendo , as long as core games are there and not neglected , who cares ..
also you really need two move controllers even for a family of four. why because the party games have up to 4 playes but you never play all 4 at one time so far so four players taking turns two at a time is the same thing. don't let the media cloud you judgement. two move and a PS eye is all you need but most will just need a move and eye because no one but me can even think about touching my ps3 i know its off topic but someone has to tell the truth and inform people
@Hacker you are either trolling or you don't know jack about gaming because Sony has tons of vids of early Move prototypes from back in the PS2 era.
Hacker is just another Microsoft fanboy. Take a look at his comment history and it'll become clear...
Not sure what you guys are arguing about. Move will support core titles like LBP2, killzone 3 and Socom. Move will also be a casual tool for children, families etc. with games (Dunno the titles but was announces at E3 etc. ) Both worlds are getting content for Move so what the heck is the motion about? :p Geddit? Motion.. :p
Haha I totally agree with you, how are people arguing saying core gamers won't want to check out PS Move. It's trying to appeal to a large broad of gamers. But from looks at it, it does try to appeal to Core gamers than it does to Casual gamers. Though I do like casual games, but since Sony is bringing a lot of core games for Move, it convinced me it's not a Wii rip off. As a core gamer I would like to play KZ3, RE5, Heavy Rain, LBP 2, PGA Tour 11, NBA 2k11, RUSE, Socom 4, Sorcery, and Sports Champ on the Move. I'm glad most of these games don't require PS Move, but I tried the PS Move and it's much more accurate than the Wii was for shooting and pointing, with that said I'm sure I'll play FPS better on the Move than I do on a regular controller(I'm no Noob Tuber!). I just hope someone makes a good app for head tracking. God of War, SCII, Portal II, and MGS Rizing would be nice on Move =)
agreed i would consider myself a core gamer but will play casual with family and have seen games for both that i will be getting. and rising on move would be brilliant they just have to do it if it dont happen it wont make sense unless (in the lest possible fanboy way) it cant be done the same on kenict (sure it could tho somehow) so wont do it as it has to be the same on both platforms.
i think move is so much better than kinect for hardcore games and its really a new experiense that we can play best visually games of ps3 with move so move is not a wii clone but kinect is so greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattttttttt tttttttt i love it even if its not good for hardcore games
First of all it is true that they have been working on the controller at least six years ago. There is a video on youtube showing in 2004 them showing a control scheme similar to the Move. So we have no idea how far back before this video they were working on it. Secondly for my friend who posted first, Microsoft has been spewing enough $hit these days to fertilise a 100 acre farm so get lost. And finally why is it so hard to believe that they made the Move for both sides? Sony unlike the others has faithfully catered to both casual and hardcore for years. So what is this crap about trying to be Nintendo and losing respect? Are they forcing you to use it? Aren't they still allowing you to play with the DSC if you want? Have they veared off down the casual road completelhy like Nintendo has? So please even if you are going diss Sony try to think before you write instead of writing the first ignorant things that come into your heads. Thanks
So many core games will be utlizing the ps move. Games such as Socom 4, killzone 3, littlebigplanet 2, resident evil 5, children of eden, dead space extraction, and more. This line up is crazy for the ps move!
The Move will definitely make a big impact when its release. I'm starting to doubt that anyone will be disappoint with it. Step your game up M$ and watch out Nintendo!
sony doesn't need to focus on motion controls espescially when there trying to push 3d into the market. and its also impossible to have a motion controller to be not casual. wii has prob 10-20 "hardcore" games the rest are casual sony shouldn't ever have done motion controlls and focus on the 3D cuz motion controlls aren't the future. over 10 mlilion ppl play mw2 and are prefectly fine with a normal controller. less than 10k ppl play mw on wii
The cheapest 3dtv is about $2,000. TVs at this price won’t be flying off the shelves. Nintendo were the first with a motion controller (look at their success with motion controllers) and Sony perfected it. Motion controllers will be the next big thing to hit the PlayStation brand before 3d gaming will. There are still PLENTY of people that don’t own an HDTV yet because it’s still expensive to them.
for me, i was sold thanks to resident evil 4 on the wii (and raving rabbids lol) so now i get to play resident evil 5 wii style but with ps3 graphics.. win for me. also looking forward to sorcery and echochrome ii the rest is all fluff until i see more.. including socom
but also core...two birds with one move xD
The only people arguing against Move are the 360 fanboys who are upset Kinect wasnt built with them in mind. Sony has always tried to cater to both the casual market and the more hardcore market. Move is just another tool in their arsenal for that. And while some would consider Sports Champions as a casual title. The devs who made it stated they spent over a year and a half working on it. I think that it has been shown to be time well spent.
Damn straight. They thought that the Kinect would be the wave of the future, that it would crush the Wii and Move so easily. Now people are laughing at it and how idiotic people look playing it and they find out it's not really for them but is an overgrown Fisher Price like toy for children, soccer moms and for twelve year old girls.Meanwhile us Move owners will be playing both casual and hardcore well into next year, while Kinect owners will still be waiting for hardcore games and games that let you sit down.Bwah Hah Hah Hah! Oops! sorry did I write that down that laugh too. Sorry.
for Ape Escape PS3, Heroes on the MOVE, and Sorcery. other than those titles, i'm not really sold on MOVE. of course, if you could play those three games WITHOUT the MOVE, i'd still snag the games.
Then how about seeing RTS games like the Total War series come to PS3... then I'd really get involved...
You don't want it to be casual controller only, but you want us hardcore players to pay for Nav pay for Move pay for camera pay for charger how farking ridiculous!
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