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EA on Next Generation Systems

Following Electronic Arts' financial announcement the company held a media and analyst conference call, during which executives elaborated on plans for current and upcoming consoles.

In regards to Sony's PlayStation 3, the company expects to have four or five titles available within the console's launch period, which EA defines as lasting from the date of the machine's retail availability until the end of the calendar year. Among these titles will be EA Tiburon's Madden NFL 07, EA Black Box's Need for Speed Carbon (preview, interview), and EA Redwood Shores' Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07. The other one or two titles were not named.

EA seems confident in the long term prospects of PlayStation 3, even if it takes developers some time to get accustomed to the machine. "This Christmas, it's going to be difficult to harness the full power of the PS3 on first generation software versus what will be second generation 360 games, so they're going to be more alike than different, is our opinion at this time," said an executive. "As those machines develop over time, there's a lot of horsepower inside the PS3 that we'll be able to unlock over years two, three, and four that we're very excited about." Speaking in terms of development progress on PS3 versus Xbox 360, an exec added, "We're slightly ahead of where we were on 360 at this time last year." (Need for Speed Carbon, PS3, Tiger Woods PGA Tour 07, Wii, Xbox 360)

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Gh0stDrag0n  +   2950d ago
The XBOX is too big.............. my A$$
The Japanese argument that XBOX 1 was too big for their tiny homes won't hold much water if they eat up the PS3. That thing is huge!
zypher  +   2950d ago
what are you talking about? PS2 demolished the Gamecube in sales in Japan, and its almost 50% bigger.
zypher  +   2950d ago
Uh oh, EA thinks PS3 will graphically edge the 360 in its second generation games. LET THE SLAMMING BEGIN!
Shadow Flare  +   2950d ago
You just KNOW that xbox fanboys will give ANY arguement and reason they can to counter this but EA said:

"This Christmas, it's going to be difficult to harness the full power of the PS3 on first generation software versus what will be second generation 360 games, so they're going to be more alike than different, is our opinion at this time,"

-which explains why the games dont look that different at the moment.

"there's a lot of horsepower inside the PS3 that we'll be able to unlock over years two, three, and four that we're very excited about."

ALOT of horsepower to UNLOCK.

-So games WILL look alot better on the PS3 in years to come. And he didn't say the same for the 360

Sorry but people can say whatever the hell they want about the ps3. But my mind has never changed about it. Im still as excited about it as ever. Go playstation!
ownallconsoles  +   2946d ago
hell yeah
Ps3 is going to be the best there is.
ace3081  +   2950d ago
I was wondering if that was what EA was saying too. My other thought was that maybe they were holding back on the 360 games to make both versions look similar. Sucks for 360 fans either way.
zypher  +   2950d ago
well i'm a 360 owner, a 360 fan, a future PS3 owner and a PS3 fan. so it matters little to me either way. who it REALLY sux for is 360 fanBOYS!
FamoAmo  +   2949d ago
EA games on 360 look crappy compared to Ubisoft 360 games and others
Out of all the games out right now for the 360, EA games are the worst looking games.. Developers have said the ps3 and 360 will be neck and neck on graphics. Until I see some proof ( game screens) which so far don't impress me at all.
BIadestarX  +   2950d ago
I can't wait.
When the Xbox 360 came out people/developers said that the PS3 was going to look better than the Xbox 360 games. Now they say that because these are 2nd generation Xbox 360 games there will be no real difference. What Next? 2nd Generation PS3 games will be no difference because Xbox 360 will be 3rd generation? And on and on, and on. When does it stop? This happens all the time when new consoles are launched. I can't wait for the PS3 to come out so I can put it next to my Xbox 360 and wii and all this bull crap about which console better is gone! Everyone knows companies like EA do not define what console is better; since they will be porting games left and right and will never take full advantage of any one console for the sake of easy/cheap porting. Games like Metal Gear, Zelda, Halo and other exclusive games will define what each individual consider which is the best console. To me I will have them all! Muahaha muahaha.
LK  +   2950d ago
yeah it sucks
it sucks that we'll have madden07 in 21 days and the ps3 boys have to wait for 3 months. that is if they can get a ps3 by than.
zypher  +   2950d ago
yeah, and the PS2 version will probably outsell them both.
DC RID3R  +   2950d ago
yeh........
but it will take about an hour to get the ps2 madden to load!!
zypher  +   2950d ago
yep...
...about as long as it takes for Fable to load on my 360
THELANDSOFSAND  +   2950d ago
if it take you a hour to load fable on your 360, you need some serious repair work done!

;)
zypher  +   2950d ago
yep, Microsoft must've sold me a faulty system.
CAPS LOCK  +   2950d ago
wii small
the wii is as big as the slimline ps2, lol and the ps3 is as big as x-box 1, hmm...i wonder how the slim line ps3 would look like.
DC RID3R  +   2950d ago
as for the graphics....
basically the nvidia gpu is the best thing about the ps3, fu*k the cell!!!
ps3 vs 360 graphics wise will be very interesting to see. a $300 system pushing a $600 one to the limits!!!!!

ITS ALL GOOD!!!
AuburnTiger  +   2950d ago
??
Why do you compare the core 360 prices to the platinum PS3's price? Did you do you that just to make the price difference that much more noticeable? What's with you?
THELANDSOFSAND  +   2950d ago
it's how customers will see it, and the core 360 is fully upgradable unlike the dumba$$ $500 PS3... you would have to be stupid to buy the $500 version
AuburnTiger  +   2950d ago
but..
If you were to fully upgrade the 360 core your spending 220 bucks. Honestly you would have to be a dumba$$ not to get the platinum. The 20 gig hardrive alone is $100!!
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Shawnzee  +   2950d ago
That whole ps3 having the same graphics as the 360 is because the ps3 game has been in development just as long and will be coming out months later.
ghostface  +   2950d ago
YEA MAYBE #1
The PS3 is as big as the xbox1, but which one looks a lot better. If the first xbox look like the 360 it might of sold a little more.
JIN KAZAMA  +   2950d ago
This is why I didnt buy trh 360
This Christmas, it's going to be difficult to harness the full power of the PS3 on first generation software versus what will be second generation 360 games, so they're going to be more alike than different, is our opinion at this time," said an executive. "As those machines develop over time, there's a lot of horsepower inside the PS3 that we'll be able to unlock over years two, three, and four that we're very excited about." Speaking in terms of development progress on PS3 versus Xbox 360, an exec added, "We're slightly ahead of where we were on 360 at this time last year."

Thats all there is left to say. The first Gen titles of the PS3 will look the same as second Gen title of the 360. Imagine what they will do on the second Gen titles. 360 is in TRRROOOUUUBBBLLLEEEE.
THELANDSOFSAND  +   2950d ago
"We're slightly ahead of where we were on 360 at this time last year"
lol

by the time they reach the level of second generation 360 title, 360 titles will be in their third or fourth generation. thats the problem with launching a year after your competition- developers are always playing catch up to your hardware. and lets not even start to discuss DirectX10...
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Tempo  +   2950d ago
KAZAMA...
or what ever the f@%k name that is who here gives a Sh1T spend your money on what you want do u or don't u live in a free country? I guess next he gonna tell everyone who bought a wii they r stupid B/c they could'nt sh1t $600 on expensive hardware like him.....typical
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gspang123  +   2944d ago
wow, people need to buy a clue
your comments completely fail to note that graphically, both consoles will be running images up to 720p/1080i. all ported games will look pretty much identical on the systems because sony is not using 1080p on any games, not that you would have a TV that could display them anyway, just movies. this statement by EA is simply trying to explain to potential PS3 owners why this year's game won't look very good, just as EA games already do on 360. please just do a LITTLE bit of reading before making comments which are incorrect.
Bill Gates  +   2950d ago
Quit your hating and Welcome Chang3
"As those machines develop over time, there's a lot of horsepower inside the PS3 that we'll be able to unlock over years two, three, and four that we're very excited about."
Speaking in terms of development progress on PS3 versus Xbox 360, an EA exec added,
"We're slightly ahead of where we were on 360 at this time last year."

Scientists at Lawrence Berkeley Lab in California praised the processor inside Sony's PlayStation 3 as a lower-cost alternative to Opteron and Itanium chips, while being eight times faster and at least eight times more power-efficient.

"Overall results demonstrate the tremendous potential of the Cell architecture for scientific computations in terms of both raw performance and power efficiency," say the LBL scientists who conducted the research. "We also concllude that Cell's heterogeneous multicore implementation is inherently better suited to the [high-performance computing] environment than homogenous commodity multicore processors."

Quit your hating and Welcome Chang3. YOU XBOX FANBOY LOSERS!!!
THELANDSOFSAND  +   2950d ago
back to the science club with you!
enjoy your potential with your science buddies, because the 360 owners will be enjoying games like GOW, Mass Effect, Fable 2, Forza 2, Dead Rising, Saints Row, Halo 3, Crackdown and Lost Planet.
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REDMOND BOYZZ  +   2950d ago
#11
You're full of sh!t, 360's 1st wave of games look the way they do because of the early launch not because of the 360's capabilities, FUC, lol. >"Bill Gates"< you're just an sad undercover pathetic Sony fanboy loser. We will see, i'm willing to bet this will be an repeat of the mighty PS2 as hyping the power goes...
THELANDSOFSAND  +   2950d ago
Personally, I think this is damage control from EA's PR department for the weaker PS3 ports that will occur this christmas-

"This Christmas, it's going to be difficult to harness the full power of the PS3 on first generation software versus what will be second generation 360 games, so they're going to be more alike than different, is our opinion at this time,"

more alike? is that the best the POWER OF THE CELL (lol) can achieve?

give me 360!
Sphinx  +   2950d ago
e-x-a-c-t-l-y
I also saw this article as PR crap. They are just doing some groundwork laying for all the comments and complaints they will be getting... then they'll say, "we said back in August that..."
Bill Gates  +   2950d ago
^^^
There's always some excuse with you PATHETIC LOSERS :)
THELANDSOFSAND  +   2950d ago
are EA losers? what are you talking about?
"This Christmas, it's going to be difficult to harness the full power of the PS3 on first generation software versus what will be second generation 360 games, so they're going to be more alike than different, is our opinion at this time,"

They said it, not us.
zypher  +   2950d ago
Re: 13.3
so, paying $600 for a system whose 1st generation games look at least as good as 360's 2nd generation games is a bad thing?
Bill Gates  +   2950d ago
Quit your hating and Welcome Chang3. YOU LOSER!!! go kill yourself
you're on here 24/7 LOSER :)
JIN KAZAMA  +   2950d ago
Damn, 360 fans must feel the sting
oh, 360 is sooo much easier to develop for, but yet, they are ahead of where the 360 was last year. Also, the CELL has been getting its props, and dont tell me, well for games its blah blah blah...you 360 fans arent programmers. Also, EA said, the first GEN titles will look the same as 2nd Gen titles. Imagine when they start using the full power of the PS3, its gonna be awesome.

in the words of TheRealDeal:
lol...lol...lol...lol...lol.. .lol...lol...lol...lol...lol... ..lol....lol....lol....lol...lo l....lol....lol...lol
THELANDSOFSAND  +   2950d ago
Damn, PS3 fans must feel the sting
can't you read? they said

"This Christmas, it's going to be difficult to harness the full power of the PS3 on first generation software versus what will be second generation 360 games, so they're going to be more alike than different, is our opinion at this time,"
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JIN KAZAMA  +   2950d ago
Yes I can read
The first Gen Titles of the PS3 will be same as 2nd Gen Titles of the 360.
shotty  +   2949d ago
Its because the ps3 got delayed from Spring 2006 to November 2006. Because of this final ps3 kits went to developers in May of this year while final xbox 360 kits when in August of that time. So basically developers have 6 months with ps3 hardware before launch while they only had 3 months with xbox 360 hardware.
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BIadestarX  +   2949d ago
mmm..
actually some of us are [game] programmers:

DDSURFACEDESC2 ddsd;
ZeroMemory(&ddsd, sizeof(DDSURFACEDESC2));
ddsd.dwSize = sizeof(DDSURFACEDESC2);
ddsd.dwFlags = DDSD_CAPS | DDSD_BACKBUFFERCOUNT;
ddsd.ddsCaps.dwCaps = DDSCAPS_PRIMARYSURFACE |
DDSCAPS_FLIP |
DDSCAPS_COMPLEX;
ddsd.dwBackBufferCount = 2;
pDD->CreateSurface(&dds d, &lpPrimary, NULL);
Bill Gates  +   2950d ago
THELANDOFCRAP
It's only a matter of time (3 1/2 months to be exact) before the disappointment of your sh!t hole console begins to set really in.
THELANDSOFSAND  +   2950d ago
lol

when Gears of war comes out?
AuburnTiger  +   2950d ago
hopefully your 360 will be repaired by then.
REDMOND BOYZZ  +   2950d ago
#14 GET YOU'RE HEAD CHECKED!!
You're taking this way to personal, you have mental problems dude! you never post but when you do it's all hate talk, you have issues man.
THELANDSOFSAND  +   2950d ago
he does seem a little tense!

lol

maybe he should get a 360 and play some COD2 or Saints Row...
Tempo  +   2950d ago
I bet....
he's just pissed he has to pay sh!t loads of cash for lackluster games and a blu- ray drive he probabluy doesn't need
REDMOND BOYZZ  +   2950d ago
Bill Gates
I'v seen you post in the 360 section of the forum and you have had posted positve posts on 360 games but now i know you are a fake, you are nothing more than a Super Sony fanboy. Do not listen to bill gates or pay attenion to him he is just some fanboy kid.
BadTaste  +   2950d ago
ROFL when i looked at what you typed it was pretty funny saying bill gates is some fanboy kid hehe ;)
The Real Deal  +   2950d ago
Is everyone reading the same article?
He said they are slightyly farther in the developement process than they were this time last year with the 360. lol...lol....lol. I would hope so. You hava had an extra year to prepare your games for the ps3. Sony gave out dev kits to major studios 3 months prior to E3 2005 folks. Thats why they had Fight night being shown by EA at the 2005 E3. So being farther in developement than the this time last year for the 360 is common sense. Whats even more interesting is how companies are laying out their excuses to why the games won't be better than the 360 counterparts. Thats the funny part. And he never said that the ps3 will out perform the 360 in the coming years. He just said that it will take a few years to get the most out of the ps3. That goes for every system ever created. lol....Thats not a new concept in gaming. lol....lol. EA never takes advantage of systems. Their just out to make money and take shorts. Game companies have had devs for the same amount of time within a few months for both the 360 and the ps3. Developers were just able to get their games up and running faster with the 360's ease of programming. So yes, both systems will improve over time. Next year we will hear the same excuses from devs. Well, we have just started to tap into the cell but there is still a lot more to harness, thats why the 3rd gen 360 games using XNA and Direct x 10 look a tad better. Then 4th gen, 5th gen and so on. Every year you will hear developers make excuses to why this 600 dollar console barely keeps up with the 300 dollar xbox 360. I say 300 dollar because by that time the price would have went down. Every console's price drops by 100 shortly after the first year of release. So NO, he never says the ps3 games will be better in years to come. He does say that the games are farther along than the games for the 360 were this time last year. lol.... I would hope so EA. lol....
Liverpool4ever  +   2949d ago
Yeah
you said it lollieboy :)
WORD UP
DJ  +   2949d ago
DirectX and OpenGL are capable of the exact same things.
Devs already know this. nVidia GPUs are better at running OpenGL while ATI GPUs are better at running DirectX, so luckily this generation worked out for everyone.

By the way, XNA isn't exactly a god-send (though it's been advertised as one). C# isn't exactly an CPU efficient programming language. =/
JIN KAZAMA  +   2950d ago
Bottom line
360 fans, you guys gotta be hurtin. They havent even begun to tap into the power of the ps3, and already the frist gen titles are the same as second gen titles of teh 360.

BTW,
I saw gameplay HD preview of Bullet Witch, OMG, what a load of crap that game is. It looks like a N64 game, with just shooting at anyhting, and the bullets dont show, there is no damage being shown, just at the end, the opbject blows up. I saw Saints Row also, that game is nothing but a knock on GTA. Why get that when you can have GTA later, doesnt make sense. 360 is not living up to the hype for me at all, i am so glad I didnt buy it. Ps3 for me!!
lol..lol..lol..lol...lol..lol ..lol...lol.lololololl (realdeal)
REDMOND BOYZZ  +   2950d ago
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Now one really care on you're take on the Cell, PS3, 360. People will buy a console for the games and that's it. Who ever can pump out the games the with good quality, creativly will win If PS3 is really got an edge on 360 so be it but Betta max had an edge on VHS, so did NEO-GEO over it's competitors.
kewlkat007  +   2950d ago
All the REASON why PS3 might not do so Well
"1. Most kids/teens don't have $600, if they did their parents would
tell them to save it for a car.
2. Most kids/teens do not have a HDTV in their bedroom.
3. Most parents don't want a console on their best TV in the house.
4. Gears of War, Halo 3 - Both are suppose to debut around the time of
the PS3 launch.
5. Lack of Availibility
6. BluRay - Most people don't care about what definition their movie
is in. Can you tell me 'south park: the movie' would look better in
HDTV? How about classic movies?
7. Did i mention its $600! + Accessories + Games - Most adults in the
age group that could buy this kind of stuff have young kids. There is
alot better things to do with 3/4 of a grand, such as: saving for the
kids college tuition, paying bills, etc.
8. Games are going to retail from $69-99/ea+
9. Lack of 'Good' exclusive franchises. Such as GTA, etc
10. Weak Online Gaming - PlayOnline is nothing like Xbox Live, in fact
sony has quite an uphill battle ahead of itself in the online gaming
platform.
11. No rumble in the PS3 controllers! Too bad, this is a big feature
that is often overlooked until you have to do without it.
12. The Xbox 360 is a much easier platform to develop software for.
13. Xbox 360 has twice the available memory of the PS3, 512mb(xbox
360) vs 256mb (PS3)
14. The xbox 360 DVD drive loads 4x faster than the PS3 BluRay disc
drive. Meaning slower loading times on the PS3 in comparision, at
least until data streaming is utilized by both platforms better.
15. Looks like a Foreman grill. Honestly, its not a pretty machine.
16. HDD not easily upgradeable. Right now 60gb seems like alot but in
reality when digital distribution becomes the norm we will wants HDDs
with 100-200GB of storage to store many games and demos. The 360
allows for easy upgrades, it doesn't look like the PS3 is the same
way.
17. A year late showing up to the party. The 360 has been delivering
next-gen gaming experiences for nearly a year now and will be in its
3rd swing of titles to come to market before the PS3 is even launched.
Once the PS3 is launched it will be some time before decent titles are
once again available as we seen with any console launch, including the
recent 360 debut. The 360 will be past this and getting into some
great games. Such as: Gears of War, Halo 3, Forza 2, etc."

Feel Free to add..Quoted from another page.
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ace3081  +   2950d ago
Friendly Rebuttal
"1. Most kids/teens don't have $600, if they did their parents would
tell them to save it for a car.

So they will buy the $500 PS3 and get the same functionality.

2. Most kids/teens do not have a HDTV in their bedroom.

Makes no difference 360 or PS3

3. Most parents don't want a console on their best TV in the house.

Same as above

4. Gears of War, Halo 3 - Both are suppose to debut around the time of
the PS3 launch.

It will be tough for Sony if this happens.

5. Lack of Availibility

Same as 360.

6. BluRay - Most people don't care about what definition their movie
is in. Can you tell me 'south park: the movie' would look better in
HDTV? How about classic movies?

Its more about the storage size of the disc for games.

7. Did i mention its $600! + Accessories + Games - Most adults in the
age group that could buy this kind of stuff have young kids. There is
alot better things to do with 3/4 of a grand, such as: saving for the
kids college tuition, paying bills, etc.

Yeah, that’s how much the 360 cost with accessories, so it is the same. Not to mention being a college student I spend lot of money when I should not.

8. Games are going to retail from $69-99/ea+

Not set in stone but they should be comparable in price to the 360

9. Lack of 'Good' exclusive franchises. Such as GTA, etc

Metal Gear Solid , Tekken

10. Weak Online Gaming - PlayOnline is nothing like Xbox Live, in fact
sony has quite an uphill battle ahead of itself in the online gaming
platform.

Sony has not givin the details for their online, and it is being produces by PlayOnline, not that they don’t have a fight but it should be very similar to live

11. No rumble in the PS3 controllers! Too bad, this is a big feature
that is often overlooked until you have to do without it.

This will have less of an effect than most think

12. The Xbox 360 is a much easier platform to develop software for.

Yes, this is true but so were the xbox and the gamecube. And it is easier to program than the ps2

13. Xbox 360 has twice the available memory of the PS3, 512mb(xbox
360) vs 256mb (PS3)

Has 256 XDR RAM, 256 GDDR VRAM and 513 GDDR ram for the RSX

14. The xbox 360 DVD drive loads 4x faster than the PS3 BluRay disc
drive. Meaning slower loading times on the PS3 in comparision, at
least until data streaming is utilized by both platforms better

This may be a problem but it also may not.

15. Looks like a Foreman grill. Honestly, its not a pretty machine.

Most people think it looks sleek, while it is big, I think it looks nice.

16. HDD not easily upgradeable. Right now 60gb seems like alot but in
reality when digital distribution becomes the norm we will wants HDDs
with 100-200GB of storage to store many games and demos. The 360
allows for easy upgrades, it doesn't look like the PS3 is the same
way.

360 is external and clicks on PS3 is internal and slides in both easy to upgarde

17. A year late showing up to the party. The 360 has been delivering
next-gen gaming experiences for nearly a year now and will be in its
3rd swing of titles to come to market before the PS3 is even launched.
Once the PS3 is launched it will be some time before decent titles are
once again available as we seen with any console launch, including the
recent 360 debut. The 360 will be past this and getting into some
great games. Such as: Gears of War, Halo 3, Forza 2, etc

Hardly a next-gen offering as most launch were upgraded ports, but the titles coming of will in deed be shiner than the PS3 launch titles but not by much.

It will be a good battle no doubt.
AuburnTiger  +   2950d ago
to your questions
1. Most kids/teens don't have $600, if they did their parents would
tell them to save it for a car.

$200 more than the 360 really isn’t much. Today’s $1 bill is like .50 these days

2. Most kids/teens do not have a HDTV in their bedroom.

You could say the same thing for the 360

3. Most parents don't want a console on their best TV in the house.

You could say the same thing for the 360

4. Gears of War, Halo 3 - Both are suppose to debut around the time of
the PS3 launch.

Halo 3 isn’t due out until fall of next year.

5. Lack of Availability

360 had a lack of Availability until about March. All new systems sell out.

6. BluRay - Most people don't care about what definition their movie
is in. Can you tell me 'south park: the movie' would look better in
HDTV? How about classic movies?

If that’s the case, then why is Microsoft releasing an HD drive?

7. Did i mention its $600! + Accessories + Games - Most adults in the
age group that could buy this kind of stuff have young kids. There is
alot better things to do with 3/4 of a grand, such as: saving for the
kids college tuition, paying bills, etc.

Damn it feels good to be an Adult, have no kids and is blessed with the ability to blow $750 on video games.

8. Games are going to retail from $69-99/ea+

Yeah that would suck, but I imagine it will be comparable to that of 360 games.

9. Lack of 'Good' exclusive franchises. Such as GTA, etc

Turismo, Metal Gear, Tekken, Devil may cry….

10. Weak Online Gaming - PlayOnline is nothing like Xbox Live, in fact
sony has quite an uphill battle ahead of itself in the online gaming
platform.

Nobody knows or has seen how this online service will be.

11. No rumble in the PS3 controllers! Too bad, this is a big feature
that is often overlooked until you have to do without it.

Rumble is cool, but damn, it ain’t that cool.

12. The Xbox 360 is a much easier platform to develop software for.

Really, and what games have you programmed on the 360?

13. Xbox 360 has twice the available memory of the PS3, 512mb(xbox
360) vs 256mb (PS3)

The RSX will have 256MB of GDDR3 video memory and have access to the Cell’s 256MB XDR memory,

14. The xbox 360 DVD drive loads 4x faster than the PS3 BluRay disc
drive. Meaning slower loading times on the PS3 in comparison, at
least until data streaming is utilized by both platforms better.

Should PS3 fans worry about their load times? I don’t think so as this is still higher than Playstation 2’s read speed, and since the hard drive is standard on Playstation 3, this will be large motivation for developers to use hard drive caching methods as a standard – not merely as feature.

15. Looks like a Foreman grill. Honestly, its not a pretty machine.

The Foreman grill burns the fat and grease off meat making your meal healthier. Also the foreman grill has sold over 55 million since 95’.

16. HDD not easily upgradeable. Right now 60gb seems like alot but in
reality when digital distribution becomes the norm we will wants HDDs
with 100-200GB of storage to store many games and demos. The 360
allows for easy upgrades, it doesn't look like the PS3 is the same
way.

I just don’t feel like researching this.

17. A year late showing up to the party. The 360 has been delivering
next-gen gaming experiences for nearly a year now and will be in its
3rd swing of titles to come to market before the PS3 is even launched.
Once the PS3 is launched it will be some time before decent titles are
once again available as we seen with any console launch, including the
recent 360 debut. The 360 will be past this and getting into some
great games. Such as: Gears of War, Halo 3, Forza 2, etc."

Apparently the PS3 this is supposed to have the biggest game launch in the history of man.
The Real Deal  +   2950d ago
Do you know why he said this?
"This Christmas, it's going to be difficult to harness the full power of the PS3 on first generation software versus what will be second generation 360 games, so they're going to be more alike than different, is our opinion at this time,"

More alike because they are porting their EA titles. He ain't saying the ps3 versions will be as good. He is saying they will be simular. And thats only common sense when you port from one system to the other. lol..lol...lol...The ps3 versions won't have HDR and AA activated at the same time because Nvidia's RSX isn't capable of that. Nvidias 7950 duel gpu can't even do it. And thats their latest and greatest. So there will be subtile differences in EA ported titles. 360 will have better lighting, and no jaggies. Ps3 version won't looks as good. But only by a little. If you have a hd tv you will notice a clearer difference. But remember he is only referring to the EA games not all games. So EA fans have a choice. And there are a lot of EA fans in the gaming world. Buy a 600 dollar ps3 and get games that are a tad worse than the 360 counterpart. lol....Thats a hard one. lol...lol
ace3081  +   2950d ago
LOL!
Thats funny because Half-life 2: EP1 runs great on my 7800GS AGP card with HDR and AA turn on at the same time.
AuburnTiger  +   2950d ago
First, even PC cards don’t sport eDRAM and AA still accomplished even with other effects enabled. Additionally, games can step up to 1080p on the Playstation 3 to lower the need for anti-aliasing.
ASTAROTH  +   2950d ago
WHOS THE LIAR REAL DEAL??
Then you post saying you are not biased against the PS3. You said you are a future PS3 owner but your COMMENTS seems biased. Dont lie man its bad. But anyway, God is going to forgive you. IM GOING TO PRAY FOR U MAN!! LOL !!!JAJAJA
JIN KAZAMA  +   2950d ago
RealDeal
lol...he said they are ahead of where they were of the 360 last year..lol..lol..lol. Ratio wise man, not the fact that they got it way back then. lol..lol...lollol. Also, they didnt give their final dev kits to EA in 2005..lol.lol..lol.lol, what..lol..lol are..lol.lol you tlaking ..lol.lol.lol about. lol..lol.
First Gen Games will be the same as 2Nd Gen Games on the 360, thats what he said..lol..lol.lol..lol..lol. Thats a sad fact for you guys ..lol.lol...lol..lol.

I am so ..lol..lol glad ..lol.lol I didnt buy the 360 ..lol...lol...lol
REDMOND BOYZZ  +   2950d ago
JIN KAZAMA #20
You do know PS3 and the Xbox are just video game console's, RIGHT?. You have lost it guy!.
JIN KAZAMA  +   2950d ago
haha
Nah, its just fun seeing the 360 fanboys getting smacked in the face when good news comes out for the PS3, and how they try to twist everything around. Thats all.
zypher  +   2950d ago
Re: 25
don't hope down Jin's throat like that, especially when you have one of the site's most longwinded 360 supporters (the real deal) posting novel-long comments about how he thinks 360 is better.
JIN KAZAMA  +   2950d ago
RealDeal
..lol..lol..lol..lolFirst you say, EA got the dev kits for PS3 in 2005, then you turn around and say ...lol..lol..lol..lol
"More alike because they are porting their EA titles." ..lol..ol...lol..lol...lol
Why would they port if they have had the dev kits since 2005
..lol..lol...lol..lol.lool..l ol
ghostface  +   2950d ago
REDMOND BOYZZ
So know there just video game console. How strange you so that know.
REDMOND BOYZZ  +   2950d ago
27
Debate is the back bone of this site "ghostface" and to me is the best site i'v seen because of it, but some of these fans; in my personal opinion would beat down folks over this BS.
The Real Deal  +   2950d ago
What EA can't say
They can't say..."Well, the ps3 version that we spent millions and millions of dollars on to develope aren't as good as the 360 version of the games." Sorry we let anyone down."....lol....That will spell doom for the ps3 and for EA and all the money invested in the ps3 games. Understand? He has to put some sugar on the statements and in the same breath make excuses. Thats why some devs have cancelled their ps3 products rather than face the fire and put out a sh1tty product. Some just push the dates back with no date announced. They are desperately trying to make a good quality game for the ps3. Its just not that easy. There is a lot of peak power there but devs can't find it. lol....Its ok for porting from 360 to ps3 but you always loose a little in the port. Its a bad situation for Sony to be in. And devs are just doing damage control. You will hear the same song being song over and over again.

It will take a few years to get to the potential of the ps3.

That statements means....Well thats why games now aren't impressive.

you will only see a slight difference in the ps3 and 360 games.

Thats statements means....Well the 360 games are superior but our ps3 games are only a tad behind being since they are ports anyway. lol.....

You have to read between the lines. STOP WITH THE EXUSES ! ! ! ! ! ! !

If the Ps3 is so powerful as SONY claims....Their launch games should blow away 360 games PERIOD. No excuses. Every gen they will have excuses....JUST STOP ! ! ! ! lol.... Well, 2nd gen games don't look as good as 3rd gen 360 games due to the xna and direct x 10 software. lol.... And so on and so on. Its 600 dollars folks. Average Joe don't know about all that. They just go to walmart and see a ps3 game running then look over at the 360 game running. Then he can see with his own eyes which looks better. And his money will go to MS every time. Hardcore sony fans will be patient. They will invest 600 with the hopes of better future games. lol....Meanwhile we will get next gen games NOW. Sooner and faster due to ease of dev for the 360.
The Real Deal  +   2950d ago
If the ps3 LAUNCH games
Look a tad worse than 360 games out at the same time.

The PS3 is a Failure.

If they look the same as the 360 games out at the same time.

The PS3 is a Failure

Sony has to top the 360 from jump. Otherwise their 600 dollar super console will loose average gamers quickly. Sony must show the value of the ps3 games from jump. They have to stop making excuses for games looking slightly worse or the same as 360 games. Othewise they will be following the leader the whole next gen of games. Microsoft....
ASTAROTH  +   2950d ago
PRAY FOR HIM PLEASE!!!
WHOS THE LIAR REAL DEAL??
Then you post saying you are not biased against the PS3. You said you are a future PS3 owner but your COMMENTS seems biased. Dont lie man its bad. But anyway, God is going to forgive you. IM GOING TO PRAY FOR U MAN!! LOL !!!JAJAJA
bosko  +   2949d ago
the PS3 better deliver!
you said just right
when i'm buying my ps3 and shelling out way more cash than a 360, i want bang for my buck!
that means if the launch titles of the ps3 look like 360 2nd gen. then the BOTTOM LINE IS~ the PS3 has failed!
with all this talk of more power and what not of ps3 > 360, it better be there when i buy it off the shelf
no excuses!
this waiting to "harness the power" is pure PR excuses of not delivering a quality product.
so in 3 months or so (if not lied to again) ps3 better bring it, or it will ultimately fail, long run long shmarun for ps3, it has to out perform from the start or ask why pay more?
HyperBear  +   2950d ago
You know what
I can take this sh!t no longer. Im officially getting rid of my account on here and will never be posting any news related topics or comments on this site. There are wayy to many assholes on this site. Xbox Fanboys keep saying that PS3 sucks, and PS3 wont do this and wont do that. Well guess what, if it does, and when it does, it'll make all of you really stupid for not backing up PS3. and Sony Fanboys, need to stop saying Xbox 360 sucks, cause right now it doesnt, and mainly every game to come out on the 360 since launch has been a big hit. WHY CANT YOU PEOPLE GET IT. Why, instead of choosing sides, why not agree that both the PS3 and Xbox 360 will be awsome, cause thats what my instincts are and its better to like all systems than it is to just favor one. All of you guys (TheMart, The Real Deal, TheLandOfSand, gametime, anyone else who is a fanboy for one specific item). JUST LOOK AT THE BIG FACTS. ITS ALL ABOUT THE FUKIN GAMES. and for ppl to say, Xbox 360 games are sh!t, and PS3 games are all next-gen rip-offs, you guys are pretty fuked up. And then we got those same ppl and more, who talk about the specs of the system to bring it down. WHO THE FUK CARES. IF it plays next-gen games, at next-gen graphics, and the entire system has next-gen technology, WHO THE FUK CARES WHICH ONE IS MORE POWERFUL OR GRAPHICAL. THEY ARE GAMES, START LOVING THEM FOR WHAT THEY CAN DO, NOT FOR WHAT THEY ARE UNABLE TO DO. All of you guys that have no life and all you do is bullsh!t on this site, you should all just stick with the system ou like. If you like Xbox 360, stay on that, dont come to PS3 news and start flaming about PS3, because if you hate PS3, then why are you on its side, and posting commments about it?, THATS FUKIN RETARDED. Same with Sony Fanboys. ALL OF YOU GROW THE FUK UP. START LIKING GAMES FOR WHAT THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY BRING TO US AS GAMERS. Just quit saying one is better than the other cause really their not. Both the 360 and PS3 have problems, but no one should care, as long as the games are great and they work. I REST MY CASE. ALL OF YOU NEED TO REALIZE SOMETHING. THESE ARE GAMES, NOT CARS, AND IF ALL THE SYSTEMS DO THE SAME THINGS, WHY CANT WE JUST LEARN TO LIK'EM ALL, AND TALK GOOD STUFF ABOUT SYSTEMS, NOT BULLSH!T. Well im outta here. It was nice to meet some ppl, very few who are with me and are getting all the new systems. But for the FANBOYS. LOOK AT THE FACTS. BOTH SYSTEMS KICK ASS. GET A LIFE AND GROW UP. Thank You Very Much
See YA.
P.S. - visit http://www.ps3.net for the latest in "positive" gaming news.
HyperBear  +   2950d ago
You see
Your one of those F@GS THAT JUST DONT GET IT. When I say positive, i mean everyone on the site agrees to everything and likes to say good things about the PS3. I didnt mean bad news wont come around, I meant the people around it are positive, unlike here where every one is so fukin biased about everything its stupid
THELANDSOFSAND  +   2950d ago
you said it, not me... and i thought you left! lol
"P.S. - visit http://www.ps3.net for the latest in "positive" gaming news."

http://www.ps3.net/newsboar...

lol
THE TRUTH  +   2950d ago
I AGREE
I FULLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH HYPERBEAR! I have been trying to change the "mood" of this site by posting positive news about PS3. It's just the more things change the more they stay the same here! I think I will just post news and stop posting because it seems you can't express your honest opinions here without someone calling you a name. It's a sad site for gamers who just enjoy games..............
HyperBear  +   2950d ago
Thank You The Truth
At least 1 person on this site gets where im going. But yea, Im just sick n tired of all this crap. I have 1800 bucks. Let me buy what I want, And ive made up my mind that i am getting a PS3, so no one can change it. And as for TheLandOfSand, whats wrong with rising costs, it just means that theres a lot of tech, that is going into the PS3 and its costing Sony. I care how?
kewlkat007  +   2950d ago
Enough with what games will look better
Fanboy retards is that all you care about is pixels...There is alot of reasons why the PS3 might not do so well, as stated earlier and thats just some true facts aswell as strong releastic opinions. I really don't see why all this fanboyism and propoganda is all about..It's kinda sad that there is actually some good competition like the Xbox 360 giving the PS3 a run for its money after 10 years of domination. I just do see why fanboys can't see the benefit of this as they rather part with one console. There really is no reason why you shouldn't be able to enjoy both Consoles when they come out depending on your gaming type. Ofcourse this is not about two countries but a US made product is just as good as a japanese one. Now go ask yourself why japanese are really not buying the 360?

While PS3 fans will await Grandpa Snake, Tekken 12, FF20, and all the other rehashed games that game on the PSone/two(yes I've owned most systems and have played them games). You can't say that the 360 has alot of re-hashed games since there have been one Xbox. personally I think there is more new content as far as different games on the 360 as opposed to PS3. I really don't see why you shouldn't own a Xbox 360 if its really about the games.
When you come on here and talk about graphics between two consoles then that's childish and retarded.
I probally will get a PS3 when its way way cheaper cause I don't really care for Cheap Blue-ray drive(still pending format)that might not win. The graphics just as good as a 360(eventhough fanboys think otherwise). No proven network play.(did I mention Price =+games+accessories? What more could you ask for on the 360 which has all but missing the re-hashed titels the PS3 is getting?

Wii- will be a fun system but not sure about nex-gen Games. wether this new concept takes off I'm not sure.
+1INNOVATIVE CONCEPT.

360- Will be a good console and since its easy to develope for I do see lots of good titles coming out, and funk Graphics its all about gameplay.
+1XBOX LIVE-nuff said

PS3-Will be a much better console than the PS2. The same collection of games will come from the PS2. I do see some decent games that I played on PS/1/2 but nothing breathtaking.
+1Bluray-drive(Pending)

As a consumer if your low on cash, do yourself a favor and get the Wii. For $200 you can't possibly loose.I know I wiil.
kewlkat007  +   2950d ago
Enough with what games will look better
Fanboy retards is that all you care about is pixels...There is alot of reasons why the PS3 might not do so well, as stated earlier and thats just some true facts aswell as strong releastic opinions. I really don't see why all this fanboyism and propoganda is all about..It's kinda sad that there is actually some good competition like the Xbox 360 giving the PS3 a run for its money after 10 years of domination. I just do see why fanboys can't see the benefit of this as they rather part with one console. There really is no reason why you shouldn't be able to enjoy both Consoles when they come out depending on your gaming type. Ofcourse this is not about two countries but a US made product is just as good as a japanese one. Now go ask yourself why japanese are really not buying the 360?

While PS3 fans will await Grandpa Snake, Tekken 12, FF20, and all the other rehashed games that game on the PSone/two(yes I've owned most systems and have played them games). You can't say that the 360 has alot of re-hashed games since there have been one Xbox. personally I think there is more new content as far as different games on the 360 as opposed to PS3. I really don't see why you shouldn't own a Xbox 360 if its really about the games.
When you come on here and talk about graphics between two consoles then that's childish and retarded.
I probally will get a PS3 when its way way cheaper cause I don't really care for Cheap Blue-ray drive(still pending format)that might not win. The graphics just as good as a 360(eventhough fanboys think otherwise). No proven network play.(did I mention Price =+games+accessories? What more could you ask for on the 360 which has all but missing the re-hashed titels the PS3 is getting?

Wii- will be a fun system but not sure about nex-gen Games. wether this new concept takes off I'm not sure.
+1INNOVATIVE CONCEPT.

360- Will be a good console and since its easy to develope for I do see lots of good titles coming out, and funk Graphics its all about gameplay.
+1XBOX LIVE-nuff said

PS3-Will be a much better console than the PS2. The same collection of games will come from the PS2. I do see some decent games that I played on PS/1/2 but nothing breathtaking.
+1Bluray-drive(Pending)

As a consumer if your low on cash, do yourself a favor and get the Wii. For $200 you can't possibly loose.I know I wiil.
THE TRUTH  +   2949d ago
well
If you pay 600 dollars for something. Shouldn't it be better than something you pay 400 dollars for? Thats just common logic right? And I keep hearing excuses to why its not better as of now.

I don't know who is giving you excuses and who is to say which is better. It's all about games to me, Graphics are overrated, gameplay always comes before graphics to me. The arguement your making is missing one thing! The nintendo wii, so if you think price determines who will win then by your points the wii should win by a landslide.

I think that most people will choose to buy a system for 3 reasons

1: Name reconition/loyalty (that is to includes games)

2: price/value (they do go hand in hand you know)

3: hype (what people around them think, have and say first! Then "what the word is on the streets)

And thats not good news for Sony fans. Most consumers are going to look at a 600 dollar console vs a 400 dollar console.

I disagree most consumer will look at $400 vs. $500 because that is what should be compared!

They expect to see a 200 dollar difference out the gate. Am I wrong?

Yes, I think you are wrong, because not EVERY consumer is comparing the "3" console! Only fanboys will, peoeple will buy what they think gives them the most value/entertainment for their money.

I know sony hardcore fans are buying into the whole potential thingy. I'm talking about the average joe who wants a next gen video game console. Am I wrong?

The average joe who just wants a console probably already has one. If he wanted one he would have bought a 360 by now, why would he wait til PS3 and wii launches or wake up a year after 360 launches get out of his bed and say to himself "hmmmm I think I will by a Next-Gen console I wonder what is out?"

Most of the Sony follwers just enjoy the games that Sony has made avalible on their consoles. I don't see anything wrong with that. Furthermore games and franchises like FF13, MGS4, Rachet and Clank, GT, Ico and Shadow of collosus, God of War, GTA, Destruction Derby, Tomb Raider, Castelvenia SOTN (this PS one game is by far one of my top 3 of all time, Carsh Bandicoot, Resident Evil ect. ect. ect. have started on PS's and have created a huge following. These are the games that you remember years from now and the systems they were on, some people become connected to this and tend to stay with what has given them this feeling no matter what other say, produce, claim ect. ect. ect.

I dont think becoming the number one console will be easy for any of three companies but I am rational enough to know it isn't going to be won on price-point alone. All three systems will be great and appeal to different gamers just enjoy your console because it's a great time to be a gamer no matter which system(s) you choose to play
kewlkat007  +   2949d ago
All the reasons...
These 17 Commandments are all the reason why you should save your money..
1. Most kids/teens don't have $600, if they did their parents would
tell them to save it for a car.
2. Most kids/teens do not have a HDTV in their bedroom.(whats NEX-GEN without one)
3. Most parents don't want a console on their best TV in the house.
4. Gears of War, Halo 3 - Both are suppose to debut around the time of
the PS3 launch.
5. Lack of Availibility
6. BluRay - Most people don't care about what definition their movie
is in. Can you tell me 'south park: the movie' would look better in
HDTV? How about classic movies?
7. Did i mention its $600! + Accessories + Games - Most adults in the
age group that could buy this kind of stuff have young kids. There is
alot better things to do with 3/4 of a grand, such as: saving for the
kids college tuition, paying bills, etc.
8. Games are going to retail from $69-99/ea+
9. Lack of 'Good' exclusive franchises. Such as GTA, etc
10. Weak Online Gaming - PlayOnline is nothing like Xbox Live, in fact
sony has quite an uphill battle ahead of itself in the online gaming
platform.
11. No rumble in the PS3 controllers! Too bad, this is a big feature
that is often overlooked until you have to do without it.
12. The Xbox 360 is a much easier platform to develop software for.
13. Xbox 360 has twice the available memory of the PS3, 512mb(xbox
360) vs 256mb (PS3)
14. The xbox 360 DVD drive loads 4x faster than the PS3 BluRay disc
drive. Meaning slower loading times on the PS3 in comparision, at
least until data streaming is utilized by both platforms better.
15. Looks like a Foreman grill. Honestly, its not a pretty machine.
16. HDD not easily upgradeable. Right now 60gb seems like alot but in
reality when digital distribution becomes the norm we will wants HDDs
with 100-200GB of storage to store many games and demos. The 360
allows for easy upgrades, it doesn't look like the PS3 is the same
way.
17. A year late showing up to the party. The 360 has been delivering
next-gen gaming experiences for nearly a year now and will be in its
3rd swing of titles to come to market before the PS3 is even launched.
Once the PS3 is launched it will be some time before decent titles are
once again available as we seen with any console launch, including the
recent 360 debut. The 360 will be past this and getting into some
great games. Such as: Gears of War, Halo 3, Forza 2, etc.
The Real Deal  +   2949d ago
Ok here is a summary of the crysis article link....lol..enjoy
Full Summary:

1) Discussion was about multithreading, multicore, multi CCU, Streaming Architecture, Cross Flat form

2) They support SM 2.0 and upwards

3) They scale the modules into seperate into different entitities, they support multicore, multithreading and multiCPU systems

4) Xbox 360 CPU resembles hyperthreading, in principles 3 CPUs with 2 threads making it 6 threads

5) Playstation 3 doesnt come close to hyperthreading, its completely different with the core having 2 proper long threads and SPEs having 7 shorter threads.

6) In terms of final game, the Playstation 3 SPU is not as flexible as a conventional processor, and therefore they scale it to the 7 SPEs

7) Because Playstation 3 architecture is so different, we need to make special adjustments for it , a normal programming policy does not work with playstation 3.

8) Sony might say they have improved thier development environment alot but thats thier wish and that is far from the truth, one must do alot of lower level work to make things work on playstation 3.

9) Cost and Development for converting from single core to multicore, multithreading systems is alot and severe.

10) When we take a single core game code and run it on multithreads, it loses its efficiency , but when you optimise it, the awards are good for the ps3.

11) The largest problem with moving advancing hardware is cache missing.

12) The difference between an Intel PC and a Xbox 360 is closer because of hyperthreading than is the difference between Xbox 360 and PS3 even though they essentially use the same PPC core.

13) The only common thing between PC, X360 and PS3 is multithreading

14) A single core Xbox 360 processor would be more efficient than the PPC processor of Playstation 3 but that seems to change when we take into account the 7 SPEs.

15) Being that Playstation 3 is much more different than PC and Xbox 360, we have to make a sub engine for the playstation 3.
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