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Submitted by NExaminer 1459d ago | article

Used games are almost as bad as piracy

When a person walks into a game store, they often times have two options: buy a new game or buy a used game. With tight economies around the world, the prospect of buying a used game becomes much more attractive. Unfortunately for developers, this means they don’t get a cent of the profits every time one of their games are resold. While video game pirates take most of the headlines, many have been admitting that used games can also be just as damaging... (Dev, GameStop, Industry)

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mushroomwig  +   1459d ago
It does make me feel bad, but like the artucle states, times are bad and I can't justify spending full price when I can spend half that (sometimes less) and get the same experience.
HolyOrangeCows  +   1459d ago | Well said
Buying/selling used is NOT anywhere near piracy. I have the right to sell MY BELONGINGS.

I'm not going to blow $60 and told how to use it/what to do with it.

Give me a REASON not to sell it. Support your game.
Cevapi88  +   1459d ago
if it wasnt gamestop....another company would have taken its place...at least when i sell a game, i know that its my property after i have shelled out $60...buying goes both ways...if you like the dev then buy the game new, they get the support they deserve...if you dont have the money, its the only way you can enjoy the entertainment....what makes me facepalm is when devs bitch about their mediocre games...why should i buy something that is average over another game that offers so much more content for the same price
Government Cheese  +   1459d ago | Well said
So I guess when I went out and bought my first car that was used, that is almost as bad as stealing the car? Because the car company didn't get a cent from me.

So I apologize for not buying a brand new car that costs $20,000 and instead bought one that costs $3,000, and I apologize to game developers for buying a used game that cost $30 instead of a new one that cost $60. Oh wait no I don't.
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Flipflopp  +   1459d ago
Good point
I agree. If its so bad, then why not shut down used car dealerships. Why are DVD movies OK to sell used, no one is complaining about that.

If a company produces X-number of game discs to be sold and they meet that quota then why do they care about the resale of those games.
Elwenil  +   1459d ago
Used cars are different since as you use a car it degrads it's condition and value. Software usually does not degrade and a used game in good condition plays the same as a new one, which is the whole point in the value of a used game. A used car is rarely in "like new" condition.
msbabie20034  +   1459d ago
wow
for once i actually agree with you
Garnett  +   1459d ago
@HolyOrangeCows
Especally with Disc Locked Content already on the disc, its another $15 for the full game...
Raypture  +   1459d ago
This, I tihnk it's all a corperate conspiracy to get more control and force you to buy more stuff, think going to the movies and having to pay for each person who goes in is expensive? I bet you we'll eventually see people trying for that with TV or DVD/BD.
evrfighter  +   1459d ago
I'm glad developers/publishers are going this route. It's only a matter of time before cd-keys are released on console.

I would hope this kills a large portion of the console market so that the gaming world can get back to games and not DLC and pre-order bonuses.
crck  +   1459d ago
@1.1.4 Your argument makes no sense at all. A used car does not degrade in performance until after the warranty expires (typically 3 to 4 years). Does that mean car companies should get a cut of car sales that are still under warranty? What about computers? A working computer has no drop in performance as they age. Should Dell, HP, Asus and the lot whine about used computer or computer part sales? Fact is NO ONE gets to double dip on used sales except the government who charges sales tax on used sales. Why should the game industry be any different? Why should there be an exemption for them?
Bereaver  +   1459d ago
I agree and disagree. Buying/selling used games isn't the equivalent to piracy but it does feel like it sometimes. Because, not everyone wants to add to their collection like me.
Dogswithguns  +   1459d ago
Actually used games aren't cheap, prices almost as much as new... I buy new but I wait til the price dropped.
Spenok  +   1459d ago
Used games are important. A lot of people use there old games to buy the new ones that come out. Its like 70% of all traded games are toward new releases. I used to manage a GameCrazy, so i saw it happen all the time. Used is a good deal if you can find it.
phalanx_mark  +   1459d ago
no-one is questioning your right to sell your game but the point is the resellers should pay the devs a commission on each resale.
Lex Luthor  +   1459d ago
Exactly spot on H.O.C
Elwenil  +   1458d ago
@crck #1.1.9
You obviously know very little about the automotive industry or perhaps you are not old enough to have ever bought a car yourself. My argument was not for Gamestop or against, merely against the comparison to the used car market. A vehicle begins depreciating as soon as someone buys it. The moment you sign the sales contract, the vehicle depreciates several thousand dollars. This is a fact and a reason many people buy used cars and "let someone else take the hit" on depreciation. As for warranty, that can effect the value but warranties vary horribly from 3 year 36k mile standard "bumper to bumper" warranties to Chrysler's Lifetime warranty that only covers the original owner and everything in between. Like it or not, cars loose value with every day that passes and every mile that is put on them. This is why leased vehicles have a mileage limit and you pay more for every mile over that allocation. Games do not depreciate based on how many times they have been played, only on how old the game is and that is tied more to the popularity of the game near release rather than a performance issue related to how old the disc is.

I'm not going to comment on the rest of your argument as that is way outside the comment I made originally. I'm not arguing the politics of it, merely how foolish it was to compare used cars to used games. The amount of disagrees I got on my original comment either shows that I did not make my point clear, or that too many people here are way too young to know anything about buying a car and comment on things they know nothing about.
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PITTBULL83  +   1458d ago
$$$$$$$
I think that developers deserve our money..........well most of them excluding (PUBLISHERS) ACTVI/EA but gaming is a hobby if you can't afford to do it then maybe you should find a different hobby. BE A GAMER NOT A HATER.
IdleLeeSiuLung  +   1458d ago
People love to use the argument that game software don't degrade like other items, but neither does music, movies, software or books (significantly). They aren't b!tchin and moaning about sales all the time, are they?
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tplarkin7  +   1458d ago
It's all fair game.
It's perfectly ethical to buy/sell used games. It's a free market. However, it's also fair for developers to seek ways to make money off of used game sales. Gamestop's future is in big trouble, though. DLC is the future. Disks are going bye-bye in a generation or two.
Elvfam511  +   1458d ago
Say what... Games do degrade... game cases, manuals, scratches on disk, and so on.
Why should pay $60 for a used game when most of the things listed might be missing or damage?

I understand if the game industry makes a contract with retail that sell used games to get a cut.
skrug  +   1458d ago
if you cant afford the game at new prices (lets say $60) then wait until the price drops instead of buying it from gamestop used ($54 or w.e the cost is)
Donny  +   1459d ago
no way, so your saying if i buy a used game because i cannot afford it its wrong?! sorry but ____ you. alot of these developers get more money in a a year than yo will get in a lifetime.
Gue1  +   1459d ago
"alot of these developers get more money in a a year than yo will get in a lifetime."
yeah, that's exactly why I download anime, music and movies illegally. either way the developers aren't seeing the money cus everything goes directly to GS's pocket anyway... /example

I'm just using this to make a point.
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AngelorD  +   1459d ago
NO NO NO
Why should I pay 120 USD in my country for a game i can get for 50$ new on eBay?
WHY SHOULD I PAY DOUBLE?
Well I shouldn't, and that's why i use eBay.
To say it's piracy is just wrong - i still BUY the game from a STORE on eBay! It's the same as if I bought it from an actual store.
wongway  +   1458d ago
@angelorD

What horrible place do you live that games cost $120?
hassi94  +   1458d ago
AngelorD, you're talking about a completely different situation. If you're buying it new on eBay that person has bought the game wholesale and has the right to sell it on behalf of the publishers, just like any supermarket or gamestore.
seinfan  +   1459d ago
What's worse is that GameStop charges a hell of a lot more for used games than what you could find on amazon or half. So not only are they ripping off the companies who make the games, they rip off the consumers.
Donny  +   1459d ago
seinfan
YAHTZEE!!
hassi94  +   1458d ago
I think we should stop having $60 as a pricing standard, and make games cost differently depending on their longetivity and the developer status.

Noone wants to pay $60 for Fallout 3 that lasts them 100 hours then go spend $60 on G-Force that lasts 3 hours.
Rocket Sauce  +   1459d ago
The feeling of entitlement here is insane. I'm at the point where I want to buy more used games just to spite these people.
ImmortalLegend  +   1459d ago
Trying to push the whole Digital Distribution movement I see...
Well I, for one, won't be taking any part of it. I love my physical media. I don't know about you guys...
killnotic  +   1458d ago
Exactly!
That's what's going on and it's insulting.
PlainOldGamer  +   1459d ago
Yes in a way they don't get any money from used games being sold (The devs) but Gamestop is just like a pawn shop, and I don't hear people complaining about what's being sold there. Besides at least unlike piracy at least they got at least one game sold since that used game was new at one point.

Most of the time for some games I do like to buy used since it is cheaper and i can return in 7 days if I don't like it.
Redempteur  +   1459d ago
i don't feel bad at all ... Used sales are common IN EVERY OTHER MARKET ..so why should it be wrong with video games ??

i bought some game for half their original price ( gems like burnout paradise , resonance of fate ) and it was great deal for me ... had i not found them at their price i wouldn't have bought them full price because my wallet has a physical limit ...
TheLastGuardian  +   1459d ago
how gamestop does business is worse than piracy.
darx  +   1459d ago
Hmm
What about libraries?
Glasscocked  +   1458d ago
Used car analogy
I think the used car analogy is accurate and software too degrades just like an automobile. Brand new games that are $60 at launch never hold that price long and game publishers themselves drop the price of the game after a few month to spur sales. Games also lose value as soon as you take the shrink wrap off, just like that new car a buyer drives right off the lot.
Scary69  +   1458d ago
If game developers are upset about the sell of used game maybe they should drop the price of their games to either $39.99 or $49.99 rather then be greedy and sell a game that sucks for $60.
DigitalHorror81  +   1458d ago
Case in point...
The awful BIONIC COMMANDO.
Skizelli  +   1458d ago
So what if the developers don't receive a cent from used games? If someone buys a used car, does the manufacturer see a profit? No. What makes the game industry so much more deserving of this? It's nothing more than greed. The real problem is the price of games themselves. Apparently everyone thinks their game is worth $60, no matter how mediocre or unpolished it is. Since I don't really see the price of new games dropping any time soon, there's really only one solution to this: Set up your own online store that sells both new and used copies of your game(s), and offer deals much like how Steam does. This will help combat retailers that sell used copies of your games. And while you're at it, stop nickel and diming us to death with overpriced DLC.
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killnotic  +   1458d ago
"Set up your own online store"
This.

But that would take money and effort on the developer's part. But who knows? Maybe they are and this is their way of trying to get rid of the competition.
jerethdagryphon  +   1458d ago
it is also for games that dont have legs games that are one off experiances

i buy new when a game i want comes out but i buy used when i need a quick fix and anything will do

as for digital distro is in custmers best interests... sorry no i dont trust not owning physical media and im a collector

it goes full dd i quit gaming
ABizzel1  +   1458d ago
My stand is this:

1. Developers need to make better/longer games. If your game delivers on all fronts, then people are less likely to trade it in.

2. Games need to drop in price sooner. I shoould not have to pay $60 for a game over 3 months old. Most game sales fall off the charts (there are exceptions) after the first full month so by the 3rd month it should drop to at least $40.

3. Develoers shouldn't charge full price for EVERY GAME. You can tell if your game isn't going to be up to the same level of quality as other major releases. If your game falls in that category sell it for $40, and not $60 especially if there's not logevity to it. And if it's a smaller sized game sell it on XBL, and PSN.
Unicron  +   1458d ago
Abizzel -

Better is subjective. You will never please everyone, and no title is a guaranteed hit. Even if your game delivers on all fronts, many people WILL just trade it in regardless because its so easy to do.
dillydadally  +   1458d ago
This article is misleading
The title of this article SHOULD be "Used games are almost as DAMAGING as piracy". The word bad implies that it is immoral to buy and sell used games, which it most definitely is not.

Buying and trading of used products is a fact of life and a part of our very economy. It's the same with cars, movies, books, you name it. This is the game industry just being whiny.

Not only that, I don't buy the article at all. Most games I buy new, I never would have bought at all unless they lowered their prices to used prices, so essentially game publishers are trying to sell their games for higher than that demand and then whining when people don't cooperate with their inflated prices.
Heisenberg  +   1458d ago
"Used games are almost as bad as piracy"
No they aren't.
P1NKY  +   1458d ago
There has been a few occasions where I have gone and bought a used game. The most recent example would be Lost Planet 2 which I bought USED for £23.99 when at the time I could have bought the game NEW for £24.99. If I had seen the NEW copy for that pice I would have bought it new rather than USED.

When you buy a game NEW thats turns out to be absolute Sh!t, so you take it back anf get ALL your money back. Surely that means the shop has lost money since some of the money you originally paid has gone to the devs and Publisher yet the shop is giving you back ALL your money.

Shops make most of their profit on USED games whereas the Devs and Publishers make their profit on NEW games. If they want people to splash out £40 - £50 on a NEW game then they should make that game worthy of that price tag.
Sarcasm  +   1458d ago
I wonder what these people think about used car sales?
WildArmed  +   1457d ago
lol it's a Sin.. u can't sell ur car after you are doing abusing it! i mean using it...
Same goes with your house.. computers.. HDTVs..
because the people who made them don't get paid for the used sales!
How evil will people get!?
TheColbertinator  +   1459d ago
Used games aren't that much cheaper but I do use that option to screw publishers I hate like Activision
Darkstorn  +   1459d ago
The problem is that if we buy used games, we're also screwing developers in the process. I too despise virtually all game publishers; however, buying supports an equally menacing business interest - Gamestop.
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TheBuIIetSponge  +   1459d ago
Gamestop isn't so bad. They couldn't just throw money at their customers and survive. Wait for their occasional more than generous trade in deal, trade it in and get something back, or be more intelligent with your game purchases and take advantage of renting when its a better choice. Don't blame Gamestop for your own stupidity, at least they are giving you options.
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APOFISBORICUA  +   1459d ago
THE PROBLEM HERE IS...
That for example you paid $60 plus tax for a game and you finished it, then you went to trade it in GStop and they offered you 14 or 20 bucks for your game... then you went to the store and saw the game you traded at an affordable price of $54.99. So why trade your games? If you dont have enough money why not sell it to a friend instead? Then why bougth an used game that sometimes comes without a manual and the case just to save $5.00?

I really despises the used game sales but I also believe that if games were at least $10 to $20 bucks cheaper there wouldnt be the necessity to buy used games. Also I believe that all the companies are going to adopt some kind of online license for used games... Just my take.

PEACE AND GAMING!
MetalZombie  +   1459d ago
Funny enough
That's not true, if you wait for sales and bonus deals you can get them a lot cheaper, even through gamestop. I wouldn't buy a used game from them if all I was going to save was $5-$10.

However, as an example of a recent (used) purchase I made through GS I got Red Dead Redemption and Mass Effect 2 for my self and Guitar hero 5 for my girlfriend for $73 + tax and free shipping. So, I got 3 games for 13 dollars more than it would have cost me to buy 1 new.
Hanif-876  +   1459d ago
A newly released game used is for $54.99 at GameStop compared to a new one @ $59.99. Also, if you were to sell a newly bought game they'd give you about 20-25 dollars for it...which is just a legal robbery. I never support used games because it takes away money from hard working developers and you'll feel as if you just got robbed by a GameStop employee for giving you a used product $5 short of a new one.
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Deathracer  +   1459d ago
With an edge card a brand new used game is $50 with tax (give or take the change) and a new game with tax is $65. So if I can save $15 on buying a used game that just came out, that's $15 I can spend on the Playstation Store or XBL.
seij555  +   1459d ago
How can something be brand new and used at the same time?
danielle007  +   1459d ago
He means
a pre-owned copy of a game that's been newly released.
vickers500  +   1459d ago
People who usually buy used games don't buy newly used games though, at least I don't. I have Condemned 2 and Fear 2 ordered right now, and only had to pay 25 bucks for both of them combined used, when if I had payed for them new, it would have been 40 +tax. A 5 dollar difference on a newly used game though is inexcusable.
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T9X69  +   1459d ago
So I guess used cars is as bad as Grand Theft Auto?
And used cloths are as bad as stealing from the Goodwill?

EDIT: Yea and? Dealerships gain no profit from used car sales (unless its a used car dealership) and the Goodwill gains no profit if people give away their cloths to their friends instead of the Goodwill.
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NExaminer  +   1459d ago
If you read the article, it about how it effects developers financially the same as piracy. They gain no profit from piracy or used games, and with more people wanting to get cheaper games, they're losing profits from increased used game sales.
HolyOrangeCows  +   1459d ago
Used games: 1 person buys a new copy in its existence.
Piracy: No one ever purchases a copy.
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vickers500  +   1459d ago
@HolyOrangeCows
Yeah, but that money from the purchase went somewhere it didn't belong. Gamestop doesn't give any of the used game sales money to the devs, and gamestop doesn't deserve that money it gets, so it's pretty much the same thing if you were to pirate it.

It's like buying bootlegs. Just because you're paying for a bootleg, does not mean the person selling (gamestop in this metaphor)should get some money. The concept of "money going somewhere, it may suck for devs but at least it's going somewhere" isn't any better than "money going no where".
SuperStrokey1123  +   1459d ago
Vickers, do you think you should have to mail a check to a dev if you sell a game on kijiji or something like that? What about when you sell a used car, does GM or toyota deserve a cut? Of course not, thats stupid right? Well the same idea applys to GS as well. Just cause its a company doing it lots doesnt make it any different at all.
peowpeow  +   1459d ago
Seems someones happy to bend over for publishers. You can't argue against selling something that you fully own, especially if it is common practice in nearly every industry
vickers500  +   1458d ago
I'm not saying you should send a cut to devs, but I am saying that piracy, and supporting gamestop for something they aren't responsible for are in the same league of morality, so you might as well go ahead and pirate (if the issue to you is a moral one).
Whoooop  +   1459d ago
The difference is that new cars are sold in their respective dealers and they make 100% of the profit.

Developers need publishers and they don't get as much profit from their games.

I don't mind used games because there is a choice, but I just wanted to note that the car comparison is a bit off.
LastDance  +   1459d ago
It's the same in all industries. Gaming is not SPECIAL in any way.

People act like this is a new concept.

If you argue that Gamespot sell a preowned copy for 54.99 when new is 59.95...that just means more people are going to cough up the 5 dollars extra and get a new one.

People cant have their argument go both ways
wiggles  +   1459d ago
LOL
I love how everyone cries when money gets lost....

They decide to charge us $60 instead of $49 no problem....but god forbid the consumer strikes back and takes matter into their own hand by finding a cheaper source... Oh no then it's an outrage!!

Come on game companies the solution is simple....

Make quality games that I don't want to return and poof...there goes your used market!!

Not to mention if I buy a laptop that has technical issues I can return it to Best Buy and no problem...but if I buy a game that has horrible technical issues then I can't.

It's funny how no one will ever complain when the going is good...but if they are the ones losing money then it's Gamestop's fault.
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MadMan00  +   1459d ago
Within' the last year I have only bought these games NEW:

FFXIII
Madden 10
Pokemon Soul Silver
and I have Pre-Ordered Madden 11 already.

I can recall any other ones.
pustulio  +   1459d ago
New:

...

Used:

L4D2
Fallout 3
Borderlands
Lost Planet 2
Red Dead Redemption
Orange Box
Bad Company 2

Lol i can go on and on it's cheaper and i can sell what i bought and Publishers/Developers will never ever have a right to get a cut from it, because it's not longer theirs it's MINE.

Like i payed You (P/d) for it someone else is paying ME for it, like if i was you so stop bitching.
Sarick  +   1459d ago
I think
this is why the gaming industry is pushing for download and subscription gaming. If the content is download only they can limit the distribution and sell licenses instead of copies.

If the gaming industry starts selling licenses instead of the games then when the license can be reserved.

What about books? You can go to the public library and pick up 20 books do the publishers complain about each person that reads a book or charge a royalty for each book checked out?

Publishers want to stop people from buying used or resealing them. JUst get a subscription at someplace like gamefly.
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RockmanII7  +   1459d ago
past year
new:

Mass Effect 2
Halo 3:ODST
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used:

I don't exactly have a lot of money
militant07  +   1458d ago
most of my games are NEW, only very few of them used about 4%
Cajun Chicken  +   1459d ago
Wasn't a problem previous gens, the industry are trying to making it a problem now due to the recession.

There's no reason that getting a pre-owned game should be looked down upon, you shouldn't have to pay full price for a used game 2-3 months down the line.

Not everyone can afford to get EVERY game released they want new.
wiggles  +   1459d ago
Not to mention....
That previous Gen we were only paying $49....also not to mention that the quality was a lot better back then...

Yes there was no real way to "patch" a game...but they *gasp* made the game correctly right out of the box!!

So they want us to spend more money on less quality?? Damn I miss N64/PS2 era
theEx1Le  +   1459d ago
I agree, I rarely bought used games until this generation. Most games from previous gens gave you value for your money (providing you picked the good games, which lets face there were plenty of), these days games release broken.
ClownBelt  +   1459d ago
How about making the price of the new game Oh I don't know cheaper?
Microsoft Xbox 360  +   1459d ago
That won't help. It will only bring down used games as well and no doubt people are going to go for the cheaper one again.
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neogeo  +   1459d ago
This is a freedom that we have a right not to lose. I don't like downloadable games because I can't sell them and they are worth nothing. I just sold my Wii with over $500 worth of downloaded games and I did not get jack shit from GS for it.
MorganX  +   1459d ago
Games I'll be buying used but would not otherwise buy:

MGS4
Demon Souls
LBP (bought)
Heavy Rain (still doubtful)

Games I've bought and will trade in:

GOW III
LBP (bought used)

Games I bought and will keep:

Uncharted 2
Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition
Many downloadables

EDIT - Games I plan to buy new:

Madden 11
NBA 2k11 (Jordan)
Gears of War 3
Many downloadables
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mirroredderorrim  +   1459d ago
Screw greed. If your game sucks, I am going to cut my losses of both time and money and sell it on amazon or something, then put that cash towards a game that actually might be worth keeping in the old collection.

Only reason devs/publishers have an eye on used games is because ShitStop was amongst the first to capitalize on the market and sort-of shape it to their advantage.

I blame Gamestop for my sore neck too.
HeroXIV  +   1459d ago
Boycott --- kinda... BO
Lets all BOYCOTT Black Ops... By buying pre-owned copies. Ah! How wonderful that would be.
iceman2885  +   1459d ago
Well
If everyone got together to join your boycott, it would be an EPIC FAIL.

You see, if everyone were to ONLY buy their games pre-owned to 'stick it' to the developer/publisher, well then...I hope you can see the problem with that.
KillerPwned  +   1459d ago
People need to stop crying about this seriously its life and it works. Warhawk for example retails from 20-30. But on gamestop its 12.99 used i think im gonna go with that and save quite a bit. We all need to look out for ourselves i mean has anyone seen a company go out of business because of the market its been going on for so long now. Everything is fine.
VenGencE999  +   1459d ago
The problem is the high price of a new game, and said games quality of production. Meaning not all games are worth $60 plus dollars, and not all games have the same high budget that would demand top purchase dollar.

I.E, make a good game with lasting replayability at a reasonable price and the number of used games is diminished...
Nihilism  +   1459d ago
We have had at least 10 articles with the exact same title, enough is enough. Do they honestly expect people to feel guilty?, you can bet your ass that movie companies want video rentals dead too, but it's never going to happen.

With game rentals they have to keep the retail prices down so people don't go for the alternative, renting and buying second hand.
Xfanboy  +   1459d ago
I bought uncharted 2 used!!!

This is why cloud gaming will be forced upon us!!!

But STEAM is future proof!!!
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Apotheosize  +   1459d ago
Gamestops to blame here, but if they didint exist it would be some other chain. Its true developers dont receive any profit from used game sales, and it boggles my mind how people think their winning by selling a game in mint condition for 20$ two weeks after they purchased it. While gamestop marks it up for 5$ cheaper than new. It really is a "fuck you" to devs. So what happens when you pirate? You download a game and the devs dont see a profit either. its the same on the technical level.

People bringing up cars and other things, dont realize video games are not a necessity. Clothes and cars are. Do you ever hear about clothes piracy? People copyright infringing on clothes and cars? No.
danielle007  +   1459d ago
Um
Yeah you do. Haven't you heard of the bajillion lawsuits Forever 21 gets every year for copying designers exactly and then selling the clothes for like $20? It happens. Srsly.

Plus, just because video games isn't a necessity doesn't change anything. Designer clothes aren't a necessity.

Plus, maybe that $5 off would matter less to people if they weren't paying $59.99 for a game. Especially with the edge card, 10% off ends up being 5.50 off a pre-owned game, which totals to $10.50 off. & that discount will add up. If publishers charged less, I would buy new for every single game. But, since they don't, I buy the ones I love new, and the others used.
Apotheosize  +   1459d ago
What the article is trying to say is that pirating games contributes nothing to the developers, do you contribute to the developer by buying used? Morally you may be right. But when it comes down to it, the people supplying you with the games are not being paid. In fact I think both of them hurt them even more by making the publishers charge more.

Now we have companies like EA who are trying to stop used sales by not allowing used purchases to go online. Whos fault is that? What youre speaking of is patent infringement. Gamestop isnt stealing these game ideas and selling them as their own.
DJKGBYF  +   1459d ago
Just because you're fine with paying $60 this generation for games doesn't mean that other people are. What are you going if next generation games cost $70? Will you just blindly purchase them without thinking about costs, just because you want to support the developer?
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Apotheosize  +   1459d ago
Maybe games costs 60-70$ because youre not supporting the developer and buying used.
xplosneer  +   1459d ago
@Apoth
Well, then the publisher needs to realize that they are charging too much for a game to sell new.

It's a math problem really. How much you take off the price leads to how much more games are sold new.

Instead, they try to force these new VIP programs on us instead of doing the simple thing and reducing the price of the game.
DJKGBYF  +   1459d ago
@Apotheosize
lol you do realize that games were $50 for years, and sold just fine.
ash_divine  +   1459d ago
@DJKGBYF
You're forgetting that the cost of developing games has skyrocketed. Therefore, publishers HAVE to charge more in order to break even. Not because of some conspiracy that the publisher is trying to be greedy.
DJKGBYF  +   1459d ago
@ash_divine
Then why can I still buy the PC version of the console game for $50?
ash_divine  +   1459d ago
@DJKGBYF
Truth be told, I'm not gonna prrtend to know the answer to that. It could actually cost less to print the discs, or maybe they're just deciding to take a bigger loss. Who knows. The point I was making was that sometimes it's just business. Nothing more, nothing less. There isn't always some evil intention behind the scenes.

You do make a good point though, I will admit
El_Colombiano  +   1459d ago
When a game is made on PC, no royalties need to be paid to the manufacturer of the hardware. When a game is made on a console, royalties are paid to Sony/MS/Nintendo. That's all I can come up with.
darkpower  +   1459d ago
This article brought to you by Activision, letting you know that Guitar Hero 100 will be out in about a few months, with its greatest hits version out a week later and the "OMG, WUT?" hits version out after that. Each is $200 for the game only, with $500 for each instrument. Each instrument and the game are all sold separately. Online pass required for online play only in new copies, with each other pass costing $50.

Oh, and warranty? WHAT warranty?
Adaminy  +   1459d ago
i HATE eb(game stop) because they frickin' open everything and then try to play it off like it's still brand new. like, don't let your dirtbag employees play a game and then sell it to me for full price. if you wanna let your employees rent the games, that's fine, but don't try to sell them for brand new after the fact. assholes.
danielle007  +   1459d ago
Then don't shop there.
They won't miss you. 99.9% of the games opened have never even been used in a system.

But, seriously, if you want to bitch about it, THEN WHY ARE YOU SHOPPING THERE AT ALL? There's Walmart, Kmart, Target, blahblah everywhere that sells the same games!
Rocket Sauce  +   1459d ago
My "new" copy of Stranglehold was part of the 00.1% :(

Screw ever throwing my money away at Gamestop again. If it ain't sealed, it ain't brand new.
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danielle007  +   1459d ago
Then you should have returned it.
There's a 30 day guarantee on all games. If you don't like the copy you got because it doesn't work or is scratched, then get it replaced, and ask for a sealed copy.

GameStop gives you a free 30 day guarantee warranty on all games, and systems. It's your own fault for not knowing the policies. You only threw away money because you chose to.

Also, if the store right near you is being bitchy, call customer service, or go to another GameStop. It's really easy to get things like that worked out, unless it's a super rare PS2 game, but that would most likely be pre-owned anyways..

I always buy from GameStop, even before I worked there. I love that 30 day guarantee. Plus, you can get a game covered for a year for at the most $3..
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Rocket Sauce  +   1459d ago
They were the only place in town where I could find one new copy for $20, versus a bunch of used copies for $19 something...I'm sure you know all about that if you work there. Anyway, I didn't want to drive back, complain about a couple of scratches, and get my money back - I wanted to play Stranglehold, dammit.

It WAS my fault for assuming their games with big "NEW" stickers on them were actually new.

Game insurance sounds like a waste of money, too.
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KillerPwned  +   1459d ago
Ok i worked there and they never want their employee`s renting the games and if they even do get a chance to take them out its for a day. Also if we where to damange it at all in anyway we gotta buy it. Other then that if they wanna take out a used game that`s ok. Also they put the games right in there own cases that way they got the full case for u to look at. Also to stop theft.

Just like danielle is saying here if you don`t like it dont shop there. Also have respect for others.

If this really was a problem among the company im sure they would get in trouble and have to fix it asap. But its alright that`s just how life is not everything goes your way.

You can also always ask for a different disk u can look at them to be4 you buy them. When i worked there i took out one game new and that`s only because there was so many copies and no one was buying them. Gamestop is actaully really strict on it.
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DJMarty  +   1459d ago
What Complete Bollocks
You don't see car makers like ford demand ther cut from used car dealers now do ya.

Seriously the games industry is demanding to much, asking gamers that buy used to cough up dosh to unlock online modes.

Nothing like piracy.
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gano  +   1459d ago
funcoland was raw.
first some games at 60 aren't worth it.
re5 was incomplete till gold droped and that was 40 or 50.
shooters are not worth it because a new ver is right around th corner (activision).
sports titles nope, they should make'em every 2yrs and offer a dl for the the end of the season.
nier was worth 40. This shyt is crazy.
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Skynetone  +   1459d ago
if there that concerned about it
just release it on psn/xbox live "only"
rungunbeast  +   1459d ago
EA Online E-Pass Code
next stop - Offline Singleplayer Code LOL.
dizzleK  +   1459d ago
the sales of those used games give gamestop the funds to bring in more new games. it's a circular business. i've read that most trade-ins are actually used to purchase new release titles. the actual profit off of new cds, games,dvds, etc is very small. thats why most chains like walmart and best buy are looking into selling used games too. most sales you see on things such as cds and games are actually a loss to the company, they're selling that new justin bieber cd for $8 or a new cod for $40 just to get people in the store.

i can't recall a single company that has ever just sold new media (no tvs,computers, stereos,etc)and survived. all the profit is in used.

hate them all you want but there simply isn't another brick & mortar store with the wide selection of new product that gamestop carries. there just isn't.
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Magna Farta  +   1459d ago
so we're beating this dead horse again...
I can honestly say as a lifelong gamer (and someone with a sizeable game collection), that a good 80% of my games are bought used, and I can also honestly say that a good chunk of those games would otherwise not have been bought if I had to buy them new at $50 or $60 instead of buying used at $35 or so.

And I guess it's a good thing I don't care about multiplayer because I sure as hell am not paying money on top of my purchase to play against aggravating people anyway.

I can tell you what too, the day they introduce a "used purchase" fee to play against a final boss or some other ridiculous shit is the day I box up the console and take up stamp collecting.
lonix  +   1459d ago
What and renting
Is just fine?
DJMarty  +   1459d ago
It is
As a licensing deal will be in place so the dev/publisher will get ther cut.
Raypture  +   1459d ago
yeah, maybe with big rental places, but not places small.

This ridiculous, all part of a plan to force everyone to have to buy EVERYTHING. You can only install a game three times with Spores DRM, have to always be online to play AC2 on PC. Think consoles are exempt? We'll see next gen. Also now to play games online you bought or lost the code for you have to pay $10 more. All of this is being done in the name of "stopping piracy" and "helping the developer" you want to help the developer? Stop buying shitty games which were only made for the money, shit developers will go under while the ones that are good that DESERVE this money will be able to make more games. People call me crazy now but they called me crazy when I said we'd have insane restrictions on the internet and now we have acta to worry about.
xX TriiCKy Xx  +   1459d ago
If it is, then call me a pirate because I hardly ever buy games new.
NitWitt  +   1459d ago
Yeah, they should stop selling used cars, too. [/sarcasm]
KillerPwned  +   1459d ago
Amazon people that place is amazing with the 10 and 20 dollar credits u can get from preordering or just buying a certain game.
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