Sony has developed a prototype computer board based on the Cell processor, the same high-power chip used in the PlayStation 3 (PS3), and will show it at a conference in the US next week.
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well its their chip why not use it
Enough hype about the Cell processor already. We all know it kick the crap outta the feather weights like Xbox 360's CPU. But when pitched against the a modern day PC Intel Core 2 processor it doesn't stand a chance in hell. Stop pretending that Cell is like some kind of super computing processor which it is certainly not. Hell even Apple smarten up and dropped the Cell from it's computer lineup a few years ago. So just because the Cell is suited to the console world due to it's low heat output it doesn't mean that the rest of the PC world is interested in this annoyingly difficult to program for IBM relic.
I want to know facts. This site should be more about facts. Explain to me, with your vast knowledge and expertise of the said processors, how one is better than the other. I have a feeling that if you actually plan on commenting back, that you'll do a ton of copying and pasting. Make sure you know what you're talking about when you do. I think you're full of it. You don't know a damn thing about the Cell processor. Study up first.
Btw, anyone willing to disagree, please comment as well and let me know exactly what you are disagreeing about. It is too easy to do that and should be mandatory to comment also.
I especially like your suggestion about mandatory justification for hitting that Disagree link...even if it's just for the sake of amusement of watching some of these site members further make asses of themselves.
...Ah, who am I kidding. Asking for something like that is like asking for facts to support their comments. Ain't gonna happen.
I'm gonna sit back now and watch the disagree count for my comment rise for no apparent reason as usual.
Very meditative, y'know.
(Have a bubble on me.)
Sony plan to use the cell for a rack mount server!!!!! ABSOLUTELY nothing related to PC!!!!. Only competition is IBM who's using the same cell processor in rack mount server as well.
In the article they say these servers will be use more for graphic than IBM though... Quote: "These will include real-time processing of '4K images', which are digital cinema pictures with a resolution of four times that of HDTV, computer graphics rendering and a multi-threaded physics simulation.
Read my friend, read!
If you'd read that again, then that said board is supposed to include an RSX. This is a Desktop board. It simply does not make sense to build a high end graphic chip into a rack, which usually don't have a sophisticated video out put, because it usually is used as a server or cluster (and IBM has CELL Blade servers already).
So, no, I doubt this is meant to go into a rack. Hope they make this available for below $2000 (or below $3000, for god sake). Will probably run a Linux version, which would mean IMO it has to include full HW accelerated OpenGL support, or at least some access to the RSX, which also can hint, that the PS3 Linux will sooner or later get full open RSX support.
For everybody claiming "CELL is crap, we have multi core": You guys have never worked with a CELL, have you? The cell is like writing MMX code in C. Its fun to write and you simply can write all you "MMX freak code" in C instead of fiddling around with asm code. And then, you still got 8 cores + a PPU. Match this with a 2 or even 4 core general purpose core. Usually the core is fast enough to handle all general purpose IO (and the OS), most of the times its the specialized part which needs a special CPU. I hope they put some std RAM interface into it, so you can use DDR instead of XDR to upgrade (but that would hint to the new CELL, with better double precision floating instruction set, which is not the same CELL used in the PS3).
And eventually, if that board/computer will be available for a reasonable price, this is a nice development machine to understand how a PS3 works and lets you get started understanding the CELL.
Then we can get rid of that crap Windows once and for all.
Oh, but I can only dream.
don't see that really changing but cell on PC sounds neat and is indeed powerful, but I'm a Gateway fanboy, i love there computers, high quality, stuff
Good. Good. Good. More production of Cell will get less cost of the chip.
Every single thing from Sony will got the Cell inside of them right? Like a Bravia with the Cell processor?. Just a guess ^^ .
its a supercomputer on a chip, nothing compares to it, it does rendering also, they originally put it in the ps3 to have movie graphics ingame, and the rsx is to synthesize hollywood level movie graphics, thats why pc fans are way off when trying to say that ps3s memory isnt high enough to get real graphics, cause if thats so, then why do ps3 games look like ingame cg, and their not even using cell and rsx for rendering yet?
the ps3 has yet to be truly shown off, and the pitiful boy that said some core 2 duo, or core 19 duo doesnt understand that the cell has no limit, and neither does ps3, killzone is only a first 7 months game, what is to happen on an endless game machine, in the next 7 months, i assure the pc fans idea that crysis looks better than what ps3 can do is and will be even more drowned come in that time, and also how did pc fans ever get the idea that their pcs and any pc surpassed the ps3? whenever graphics on pc games come into cg ingame range as ps3, or any shower of e3 2005, then they may be equal, but as for pc being superior to ps3, what a joke, you act as if you seen the machine maxed out, when it cant because it wont end, you surely cant say sony lied about the ps3 anymore, with hevenly sword, metal gear, and killzone with others, and it hasnt been a year yet, crysis has been worked on well longer than even gears of war now, there is no excuse, and as i have said, no ps3 game has been worked on longer than say, 17 months, febuary 2006 was the first manifestation of a ps3 build, thats when any game development on the platform started, anything else were basically tech demos on incomplete hardware the ps3 hasnt really arrived yet, notice that journalist, and interviewers have never asked if pcs are superior to ps3, when questioning sony, they know the answer to that, they know what they saw at e3 2005, and they know that things on ps3 can go even further than that, and that has been shown at e3 2007, brag about crysis all you will, but it has been surpassed about 5 times, pc fans hold it as a torch, and the ones that are on ps3s side follow behind it as if they never have seen e3 starting from 2005, then you want to believe what people say about sony lying, but they have proved what the machine can do, some of it, so i dont know whats the matter with either side.
all i know is cell is the future, and will not max out, thats where it stands.
also, rsx, despite the "RAM" that you pc fans keep stating, is nowhere near showing any of its true colors yet either, so please know real ps3 knowledge, then post
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