It was revealed a few days back that, Wii was only 1 million sales behind the Xbox 360, well the Nintendo Wii is now only 620,000 sales away from beating Xbox 360 sales. The countdown is on.
with a cheaper pricepoint and success in the Japanese market, it really is no surprise
once again they are wrong the wii already passed Xbox and its actually at like 32 million if u count gamecube and its no where close to ps2...thats the only logical explanation.... i mean its certainly not next gen it doesnt even play dvds, its in another league (not in a good way)
:dont get me wrong i would love to have one but i hate that fact that people are comparing this inferior device to xbox360 and ps3 ..
Again I'm a PS3 fan but this is a travesty. How can so many people want such an inferior piece of equipment. This is setting back the industry from striving for the best and most cutting edge technology.
I'll admit that I'm in denial (I'll light a candle and say the words) but I refuse to consider the Wii from now on in the console "race".
The top 10 has 6 PS3 games and 4 Xbox 360 games.
More people want to play and buy the PS3 and Xbox 360 games than than wii.
Honeal2g: "i mean its certainly not next gen it doesnt even play dvds"
It's quite funny that you mention formats as a way of defining which gen a console belongs to. Wii uses the exact same format (DVD9) as Xbox 360. Xbox has DVD9 too, but Gamecube has only 1,5 Gb disk (-> Wii is more than just a Gamecube with Wiimote).
If you mean DVDs as DVD movies, then it's a different issue. Gamecube didn't play movies like PS2 and Xbox, yet everyone said that GC was in last gen's console war and it lost. If GC had won, people would probably made similar excuses as to why GC shouldn't have been counted in for the race.
aiphanes: "The top 10 has 6 PS3 games and 4 Xbox 360 games.
More people want to play and buy the PS3 and Xbox 360 games than than wii."
The hype-meter on this site applies to this site only. Most Wii players avoid the sort of flame wars that are so common to this site, because they're not interested in fighting. Vgcharts is one place that seems to attract Wii gamers, most of which seem to be in their 20s or 30s btw.
It's not just a fad any more. It all comes down to games. Publishers and developers are already rushing to make games for Wii, and Wii already has a lot of solid titles in the pipeline. By the time the Wiimote craze is over, Wii will already have a lot, a lot titles to sustain its popularity. That means games will make sure that Wii stay mainstream for a long time.
2008 will give answer to that question. If through whole 08 continues to sell like this, than Wii is definetly not a fad.
when my neighbor's grandma that got one for her birthday purchases another game for her Wii...then I will believe you...
the installed base of that system is not the type of base that is going to keep purchasing games for it...everyone will buy WiiFit...and then what? you think that grandma is going to buy smash brother's brawl?
everyone keeps saying how developers are going crazy to make games for the Wii...yet almost everyone I know that owns a Wii think Wii Sports if fun enough...and have no intention of getting any other games...and that is mostly middle aged adults and older...I have a few friend's my age that have one...and are getting the usual first party lineup...and even they admit nothing else is even remotely close to complete that looks appealing...a very typical Nintendo game forecast...
So even if Wii sales drop to the point at which it's selling at the same rate as the other consoles, it'll be a fad? I think its saturation point will come much sooner because it has been selling well for so long, and that's why I expect sales to slow down somewhat next year.
No you are wrong. With price cut (that will happened) Wii should have even better year(if its not a fad) like PS2 did. Just look at PS2 chartz and in what years of its life cycle did sales explode.
I didn't realize an opinion could be wrong but it's all good. You bring up a good point about PS2 sales exploding in later years, but it initially did not sell anywhere near as well as the Wii is selling right now. I think the current supply constraints will actually help the Wii maintain a high level of sales throughout 2008 as long as demand can be maintained, but I expect demand to fall somewhat.
Now about the price drop. While it's entirely possible, what makes you so sure that it will happen in 2008? If demand for the console still exceeds supply (or even if demand falls to the point that it is equal to supply) throughout the year, it would make no sense for Nintendo to drop the price of the Wii.
Do the maths, it will over take the 360 in just over three weeks at 200,000 units per week, but thats assuming no sales of the 360! Slightly biased article!
The Wii is a nice little console, but aimed at a different market to the 360 and PS3. I for one am not taking a step backwards from HD gaming. HD games are expensive to make, I hope there isn't a developers slide towards the easier to make and therefore potentially more profitable Wii games. I would see that as a step back for the games market as a whole. I'm quite happy to sit down and play in full HD glory rather than wave my arms about in front of last generation graphics.....however my kids love the physical aspects of the Wii..
More than enough room for all three consoles out there, each has its plus points and its negatives. Hopefully all will continue to be successful! We the consumer will be the ones to benefit.
no they said that the Wii is selling 200k more than the 360 each week. It is counting 360 sales in the equation. But yea there is plenty of room for 3 consoles ^^
Wii sells over 200k a week just in US + japan and EU it could happened even sooner.
hmm it seams nintendo was smart its not about the console strength its about soccer moms.i knew this would happen because of the following:
1.lower price than the 360
2.What parent would chose gears of war over rayman for little jr
3.adults and non gamers would play
4.its made by nintendo which means the wii is powered off the heart of a kitten
The sad thing is that if Wii by the end of this generation continues to dominate and destorys both 360 and PS3 in profit than maybe Microsoft and Sony will change their strategies in future and focus more on casuals like Nintedo with Ds and Wii, fo me personally that would be death of console gaming.
It is very possible scenario.
No Surprise there then really, another 12 months and Sony will outsell the 360 aswell.
Don't get me wrong i love my 360 and it gets 95% of my playtime but 10 million units in 2 years is pitiful.
Why do you claim that the Ps3 will outsell the 360, look at the stats. the PS3 has been out for soon 1year and has only sold under 4mil. While the 360 has 10-12 mil sold. Also i see a great Console boost sale coming for the 360 due to Halo3 , Mass effect , Lost oddesy , bioshock (all Exclusive).
And regarding the Wii i think its a system that wont last longer then 3 more years max. The Wii just hasent any good 3rd party support and that will be its doom. Just look at the Top Wii games all of them are Nintendo made.
Agree with me or not but westerns rpgs suck, i just had to say that. they just havnt got the tradition.
i dont play it much but it's the greatest fun with friends. pc only has the boys racing gtr2 for time trials (1 at a time). 360 and ps2 has a handful of titles a few will play. wii EVERYONE plays.
I have not played my Wii in like 2 months, am alone here?
How did the Gamecube sell early on?
Console sales were about equal to Xbox, but nobody bought 3rd party games for the GC. With all of the 3rd party garbage for the Wii, it looks like history will repeat itself. The casuals/non-gamers Nintendo is trying to attract, won't pay more than $30 for a game. Even then, they won't buy many games. The only hope is that kids beg their parents for Wii games.
You can compare the sales of Wii and GC here:
http://vgchartz.com/hwcomps... The Wii has sold about three times faster than Gamecube if the launches of Wii and GC are aligned.
what if the wii was released the same year as the 360....now that will be a problem for MS
Two years ago, if someone posted that Nintendo would dominate this time around I'd think they were freaking nuts. Welp hears to being dead wrong.
*grabs a fork and knife and starts eating crow*
I own X prodcuts that cost more than £50:
3 Dell products
2 microsft products (not x360)
8 sony products
1 philips prdocut
...... 5 Nintendo prodcuts
What's the software attach rate for the wii? Are people buying games for the console? Are people that have it using it? or only ocationaly?
The way I see it... it does not matter how many consoles Nintendo sells... when it comes to the wii it's all about the wiimote.. not the games... wiisport to be more specific. A bad thing for Nintendo? No.. they are making a ton of money... a bad thing for Microsoft or Sony? they can sell 100 Million console in a month... and I will not trade halo3, warhawk, Mass Effect, Metal Gear Solid or any next gen game for wiisport or any other game just because of the wiimote..
I dont think the software sales is up there with the hardware. Everyone i know of got at most 2-3 games for there wii and havent played in month. It´s a fun thing for awhile. Like when you were a kid and got a new toy, funny as hell for a month or two. Then it becomes a papper weight...
I too would like to know the attach rate for all 3 consoles. Strictly looking at the consumer side, attach rate is definitely a figure worth noting. However, I don't think attach rate alone matters as much as attach rate + install base when looking at the forecast for game development, which obviously has an impact on attach rate later on.
"Ultimately, a console with an attach rate of 8 and an installed base of 50 million would be a better bet for game publishers than a console with an attach rate of 12 but an installed base of only 20 million owners."
Agreed. Just plain agreed. It doesn't equal the emotional experience of a game with top notch production values. It just falls short for someone with a higher regards to gaming.
Xbox 3FixMe is about to get smacked right in the face by the Wii...HAHHAHA
Atleast Sony has a reason for not selling as quickly as the Wii. The lack of AAA games and the price, but that's all starting to change very quickly isn't it xbots.....AHAHHAHHAHHA
wow they can add me too the sales to i will be getting 1 lol and for me I only bothered with it because tell the truth it looks nice next to your HDTV (a must have) for the price its worth getting to make your room look more nicer lol im not bothered with games for it tho
be getting 360 elite also thats to do with games :D
EDIT: Bazookajoe_83 - I have a Ps3 already lol its a good thing I work for it...I mean liek i can buy what i like and ect I be spending alot this year not also on games but to get a new apartment and I saw this really nice gaming chair with speakers on either side mmm so nice lol
U need to get a ps3 ;-) But it´s pretty nice to have all 3 consoles next to eachother in the living room =)
Nintendo fans gather. It is our time. I have waited since the snes days for nintendo to take the power back. Matter of fact they need to have a commercial playing rage's take the power back.
the wii has only two killer apps, paper mario and well i guess 1 killer app, the only reason this thing is selling is because of its price. also because of some retro games on the virtual console. think about it kids love this thing, it is some crazy concept machine that just caught on and most people are intrigued by it. if it wasn't for that wiimote i would probably have one!
so Zelda and RE4 are not killers? I understand what your saying but give credit where credit is due. I don't have a Wii, I'm gonna wait until Manhunt 2 comes out, but whatever nintendo is doing, it's working.
I'm a 360 fan and I thought the 3FixME thing was funny. You fanboys keep me laughing.
looks like it got Ash laughing too. Nice avatar.
my friend one in a 1 pound games machine at a beach lol. Good for a couple of days and it just got boring so fast. And shooters suck big time on it. i think i stick with pc, ps3 and 360.
There is no mention of the PS3, only Wii and Xbox 360.
To cause a fanboy fight, you can not read one good artical on this site without a fanboy/troll b1tching about it which is very sad.
its not mention due to the fact ps3 is like 3rd atm...and 360 is up there while wii going to be there
so no need to mention ps3
EDIT: ok gotcha...yea y on the ps3 section...sori abotu tht
Daz - I think I agree with you. These shouldn't be approved as they're not following the rules.
boi - Read my post and try answer again. If this post doesn't mention the PS3 (for whatever reason) then it shouldn't be in the PS3 section.
Keep it up Nintendo you got my money as well! SSBB what I look forwrds to!
Im happy to see the wii doing well and when it beats xbox sales its not really a big deal you will find that ppl who own an xbox prolly hav a wii or plan to get one, and the ppl who own a wii a diff type of gamers eg kids or older ppl, xbox sales will pick up soon with the release of Bio Shock, Halo3, Mass Effect, GTA4 with xtra content, Pgr4, and a few kids game with viva party animals and scene it. But its good to see the wii going strong GO WII60 :)
just kidding..after the downfall of nintendo, It's cool that nintendo is going to dominate the handheld market and the console market...but i just wish they would go hd. I mean ...i personally think even the psp is a way better ds..its like they are stuck in 2d and everyone is moving on to 4d.
I don't play with kidde toys I play with Entertainment systems that actually have games on it. People, are buying wii's and then find out later there aren't any games on it except kiddie crap.
"are buying wii's and then find out later there aren't any games on it except kiddie crap"
Such a bullcrap phrase, If they are having FUN with it they wont see it as kiddie CRAP.
your logic is stupid and idiotic.
"Entertainment systems "
The Wii brings joy and fun to those who turn the system on and play the game they have fun with.......doesnt that make the Wii an Entertainment system?
Joy and fun...so does a woman.
If you dont think microsoft OR sony could go back in time and take nintendo's path, YOU ARE DREAMING! They dont CARE about hardcore gamers, we all know both companies only care about money (hey, nintendo too) and if they lost the smallest gaming group out there, i for one am pretty sure they would NOT say sorry to all you individual hardcore fanboys, and thank you for your unwavering support, before they went casual and made LOTSA LOTSA MONEY!
If you would have asked me back in 05 if the Wii would be the top selling console after a year in I would have said hell no. I still think the PS3 will be #1. This goes to show that most of us on the internet don't know jack.
i dont think the ps3 is going to outsell the xbox360 though..its probably going to come in 3rd place..but i dont care at long as all three systems make great games! ^_^
"This goes to show that most of us on the internet don't know jack. "
This is because people always tend to think from their own perspective and experience.
Lots of people go: Wii SUCKZORSSSS and PS3/360 ARE BETTERRRRRRRRR....but this is still a personal opinion, doesnt mean the whole world thinks that way.
Think outside the box.
I dont believe it.
2. The Wii cant sell any games, so it doesnt matter at all.
3. Grandparents dont purchase games as they will find out soon.
4. HALO 3 will sell more games than the top 3 Wii games combined.
hey i like halo too, but saying that was just sad XD
"The Wii cant sell any games, so it doesnt matter at all."
Wii has so far 8 games that have sold more than million copies. That's pretty darn good.
"HALO 3 will sell more games than the top 3 Wii games combined."
I don't think so. Wii Play, Wii Sports and Zelda TP combined have sold about 16 million already. That's about twice as much as Halo 2 and at the moment, there's not even large enough userbase on 360 to counter those sales!
I predict that even the hardcore games, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy and Mario Kart combined, will sell more than Halo 3. (On Gamecube, Super Mario Sunshine, Super Smash Bros Melee and Mario Kart sold about 19 million copies combined)
All the PS2 people...all 125+million of them really want a PS3...but they are waiting for the price to drop below $300...when that happens in about 1.5 years...then the PS3 will be at 35+million and growing a million a month!..All the really cool games are comming only to the PS3 in the next year...MGS4, Final Fantasy 13, Infamous, GT5, Killzone 2, ect, ect...All the cool games were on the PS2...and they will be on the PS3. The PS3 has only been out for 9 months...they are almost at 5 million units sold...it took almost 2 years for the Xbox 360 to get to 11 million and they are like stuck at the number.
The Xbox 360 is doomed...halo 3 will help...but what do they have comming out next year...maybe gears of war 2...that will help...but that is no MGS4 or Killzone 2...
The wii has no killer apps...all the games are minigames...that you play for like 15 to 20 mins and you are done...you can play heavenly sword on the PS3 for hours and have lots of fun. It is a different experience on the PS3 and Xbox 360.
Also HD graphics will matter...most people are going to buy a HDTV if they do not already have one in the next year or two...the prices of HDTV are dropping like a rock...and the wii looks like crap on a HDTV.
Its all about price right now...but show me a killer wii game that is going to come out before christmas 2007 that will be better than Halo 3 or heavenly sword? Show me something that is commming out on the wii next year that is better than MGS4?
Now if they would release Manhunt 2 on the Wii...then we are talking...that would be a killer game for the wii using the wii controls. This is the type of hardcore game the wii needs.
But hey, all the girls, kiddies and old people need a game system they can play, and that is the Wii. And the Fat people need wii fit to lose some weight if they can not get into a gym.
There is room for all 3 consoles...but people who say the Sony is going to lose this generation are on crack...
what we need to watch out for is the next gen in the portable arena...
The DS II and the PSP2...now that is going to be interesting...
Looks like that one-year headstart has gone to waste for Microsoft. But who cares! It's awesome that Nintendo and Sony are doing so well (especially Nintendo considering how much of a risk they took with the specs and design of the Wii).
Gentlemen, PS3 is not a contender. It is between Xbox360 and Wii. Get over it.
Well you'e got to pat Nintendo on the back for the sales, but this is a very short term tactic.
They've gone for the ultra-casual market and once the wii is old, what are they going to come up with to replace it?
360 and PS3 will be well established and nintendo can't hope to bring out something comparible and compete with them. So what on earth would wii 2 be?
My only fear is that lots of developers stop developing 360 or PS3 games and start developing pacman for the wiimote or something equally 'casual', because if that happens us more 'hardcore' 360 and ps3 gamers are going to lose out. We want all the developers fighting in the 360/ps3 arena.
I have a wii and a 360... I am glad the wii is doing well, but I still enjoy the 360 more... it is painful to watch games like The Bigs, Tiger Woods, and SSX Blur on the Wii because of the graphics (xbox games look better IMHO), but playing the games can be fun for awhile... I will also eventually get a PS3 when there is another price drop and there is a need for Blu ray games... This is a good time to be into video games...
pfft! Hopefully this lame gimmick ends sometime soon!
Thirdplace fanboys talking?
That 125+ million PS2 ownership argument is not an argument at all.
Let me tell you about my experience with that 125+million. I have friends and brothers who have the PS2 and between all of them I'd say they probably put in a total of 24 hours on it combined. They were dust collectors for those guys. And if you think I am the only person out there who knows someone like those guys then your living in your own little world. At the time of the PS2 release it was a fad for them and so they picked one up.
My guess is that they will not plunk down $500-$600 dollars for another dust collector just to satisfy an impulse. Maybe when the price is at a low point, say 2-3 years from now, maybe they will get one. But the problem is, the few that I know most likely won't now that they are raising families and paying mortgages.
I believe that the gaming landscape will always be changing and the HD era will most likely cater to the hardcore game like you and myself.
And remember that alot of those were also faulty machines and were replaced two to three times.
That's it I'm done.
New and existing fanbase - yes
Price - yes
Games - yes.
Only the diehard loyal fans would be buying the $500-600 Ps3.
Millions of 'casual' playstation fans are intelligent enough to know that the price will drop and the games are coming......so will wait before buying their Ps3.
There's absolutely no doubt that the Ps3 will be selling like candy in 2 years once the price is cheap as and there are loads of game.
Wii's flying of the shelve. The PS3 is selling like hotcakes after the price drop / value bundle. With plenty of games to come it will pick up more steam. XB360 will end last in the marathon. Had a nice lead with the sprint - but most probably will prove to be to little. With installed bases of around 100m for this generation, the Wii will reach it, the PS3 will. Don't think the XB360 will.
The 360 will never see the light of 1st place again once the Wii claims 1st place. They sold next to nothing in Japan, and that's going to hurt them. MS admitted themselves that if they cannot penetrate the Japanese territory they won't win. This was said during the 360 launch.