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Ripten Mega-Review: Crackdown 2

Crackdown was released in early 2007 to generally positive reviews. Players had a blast bounding over rooftops, throwing cars off of bridges, blowing up everything they saw in glorious mega-explosions. Now, over three years later, developer Ruffian Games has re-released the popular platformer fo- Wait, this is a sequel? Seriously? Oh. My bad, everyone.

Ruffian has taken the old idiom “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” and turned it into a cautionary tale. As it turns out, even if it isn’t broken, sometimes you should still attempt to fix it. It’s true that when making a sequel, you want to carry over all of the successful elements of the preceding game. But if you don’t significantly add onto that formula, there’s no real point to making a sequel, which is something that Crackdown 2 suffers from.

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gynecologistcobra2638d ago

6/10 is above average, so this is, essentially, a good review. However, it's not anything more than good.

KingNintendoFanboy2638d ago

More like don't bother playing it.

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ChronoJoe2638d ago

6/10 isn't considered a good review, anymore.

It used to be, it's not now. There are over 400 games on the 360, which are theoretically better than this one (going by that score), so why buy this one?

electrolemon2638d ago

What does that have to do with anything? Games should be judged on their own merit, and not based on "how good it is compared to ____". Halo existing doesn't make Castle Crashers a bad game.

By definition, and by their review scale, 5/10 is average. That means 6/10 is above average- even if slightly.

Nostradavis2638d ago

I agree Joe. Six is technically above average, however, it's by far not a game you want to buy unless you are a huge fan of the genre/series. This game is more of a rental or bargain bin type purchase. Not bad, but far from being worth 60 dollars.

ChronoJoe2638d ago (Edited 2638d ago )

No, you've got it wrong.

When constructing a review score, games should be judged on there own merit. However the purpose of a review score, is for comparison with other scores. Without that context the review score is redundant.

Crackdowns context, is somewhere below 400 other XBOX games. Now explain to me why the average gamer, would splash the cash on this, in contrast to over 400 other, technically better games.

I'm not saying it's an awful game, I'm not saying it's not fun to play. I'm saying there are 400 better games, and 400 that are going to be more fun to play, so why does this game deserve my $60? Maybe if you have a predisposed biased to the genre, or series, you could justify the purchase, but aside that. Don't see it happening for anyone.

Arnon2638d ago

No, I'm pretty sure the purpose of a review score is to give the game an average rating based on it's features, it's positives and it's negatives. It has nothing to do with another game. Once again, that would mean, just like what Electrolemon said, that there's no reason to play anything below the score of Mass Effect 2, because going by your logic, the game is not good enough to be played.

electrolemon2638d ago (Edited 2638d ago )

@ChronoJoe

I'm not saying the average gamer should buy this game. I'm also not saying that it's better than a ton of games. I am simply saying that in terms of review scale, 6/10 means at least a little better than average. I understand that there are well over 400 games for the Xbox that are at a higher rating, and I'm not saying that you should buy this over them.

I am simply saying that 6/10 is not a BAD rating.

@Action Bastard
This is why.

Because N4G's bubble system is fucking stupid, and it's dumb that I can't reply to comments beyond a certain point. It stifles discussion.

@SOAD
I am not speaking in terms of what is generally given to games. I am speaking as a reviewer, and looking at the declared review scale from Ripten. 5 out of 10 is right at average. Statistically speaking, 5 out of 10 is ABSOLUTELY AVERAGE. I understand that 5/10 is low in the mind of many gamers, but that's why people have to declare the ideals behind their review scales, because gamers think this is the case. But in terms of a STANDARD REVIEW SCALE- 5/10 is absolutely average. That means that 6/10 is above average.

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SOAD2638d ago

6/10 above average? The standards have fallen very far if 6/10 is above average.

7.5/10 is above average.

FrankDaTank2638d ago (Edited 2638d ago )

This is not the world according to IGN scoring. On a scale of 1-10, five is "the average" or "middle ground." It is therefore above the average according to a 1-10 scoring scale.

Now, if you'd like to talk industry average in terms of how many games are released and how many of them rate 7 etc, then yes - it is below that "average." But these are two different uses of the word that often get mixed up.

Review scale wise is a totally different thing, so let's be clear on that. If you rate from 1-10, 5 is the average or middle ground score.

The "average" is relative. There is the average when compared on the scoring level of 1-10, and then there is the average when comparing that game to others released.

This definition best fits the use of "average" on a site that is scoring a game: "A number that typifies a set of numbers of which it is a function."

While this definition best suits the industry comparison: "The usual or ordinary kind or quality."

Both uses are correct and yet both are different. Neither is wrong.

ChronoJoe2638d ago

I actually think it varies per genre.

For example, in terms of niche JRPGs. 8/10 is the top they can get, realistically. Even if they are the very peak of the genre. Only main stream stuff gets the high reviews because of larger appeal.

For a JRPG, 6/10 is average-above average. (White Knight Chronicles)

FrankDaTank2638d ago (Edited 2638d ago )

@ Chrono,

I agree with all you are saying here. However, you are talking about industry average, not review scale average. They are two different things.

If you were to forget for a moment about the Metacritics of the world and just focus in on your own personal opinion of a game (because that is all a review is), the score you would arrive upon (be it 1-10, 1-5, etc) is your scale. And if you say something is 5 out of 10, mathmatically, based on your scale, that is average.

Once you start looking at other sites and other opinions, you are then focusing on the industry average. The industry average will of course vary depending on how selective you want to be in terms of what you decide to compare.

ActionBastard2638d ago

Lemon, why are you posting under both gynecologistcobra and electrolemon? Not only is it lame, it's kind of sad.

On topic: I don't believe a 6/10 is a "good" game. But I'm also willing to play for myself and make up my own mind.

Kakihara2638d ago

I think review scores should be taken as a guide to the general feeling of excitement the reviewer gets about a game. We all know technically 5/10 should be average, anything above good and anything below bad but in day to day life if a friend is setting you up for a blind date, you ask how attractive the person you're being set up with is and you're told 'hmmm, I'd say they're about a 6' you won't think 'Oh sweet, maybe not a model but attractive' you'll be looking for ways to cancel (don't try pretending this analogy doesn't apply to you, you shallow bastard/bitch).

It goes for anything, movies, meals, cars, swingers parties. We all know what 6, 7 and 8 out of 10 really mean.

Not that I'm trying to insult this game. I hated the first one but I heard the fun of both games really comes from playing online with friends and I can understand that. I only played single player. I bought Borderlands for PS3, played it on my own, considered it a 6 out of 10 game, took it back. Got it for PC, played with friends and it's easily 9.5/10 and the best multiplayer I've ever played. I'm sure this could be the same.

FrankDaTank2638d ago

Couldn't agree more Kakihara. We are a selfish and demanding species. If it's not great or better, we normally can't be bothered with it. However, we do have this right, and for a game asking us to dish out 60 bucks we deserve to get great or better.

Kakihara2638d ago

Oops, of course you agree Frank. You basically said everything I was clumsily trying to say only much more concisely and about ten minutes before I said it. Sorry, didn't see your comment.

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memots2638d ago (Edited 2638d ago )

OK so i guess that Haze is above average too with a 6.5 score from the same site.

How many of you hypocrite said *teh flop* when Haze got that score . Now "its above average" ??

Get real.

CrzyFooL2638d ago

I played the demo for about 10 minutes, then quit and deleted it. Not for me. Apparently not for many other people either. I hear the multiplayer is fun?

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Sigmarue2638d ago

Maybe it would have gone over better if it had been a game of car-tennis rather than... what it was.

masterofpwnage2638d ago

hmm maybe i should just get the first one.

Nostradavis2638d ago

I like the way you think.

electrolemon2638d ago

Well, if you don't have either, and haven't played either, go with the second. That was, you at least have a lot of people to play with.

HolyOrangeCows2638d ago (Edited 2638d ago )

Get the first one. The ways you can tackle missions are a lot better than in the second. It's sort of short, but at the price that you could snatch it up these days, that shouldn't be a big deal.

@electrolemon
Plenty of people still play the first.

MajestieBeast2638d ago

The problem is who is gonna pay 60 bucks for a average game when there are so many games scoring above that. I bought both MAG and WKC because i just knew those 2 would be good cant say the same from CD2 which looks like a crappier looking 1 with zombies.

Neo Nugget2638d ago

I heard MAG and WKC got similar reviews.

By the way, I'm playing my ps3 right now. SO I'M NOT a fan boy.

MajestieBeast2638d ago

I mean i saw it from the gameplay demos both games had i just didnt feel that with crackdown 2 the first footage a big let down because i expected improvements and not just the same game with zombies loved 1 but i might just replay that then and wait for this to drop to 30 or 20.

supersonicsaga2638d ago

I don't have any excuses for MAG but with WKC, it's an RPG. What JRPG gets good reviews from the American media that doesn't have Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, or Kingdom Hearts in its name?

greeneggsnsam2638d ago

You may as well even buy the first one for like $5 online or something.

T9X692638d ago

What's funny is MAG has a average score of 76, and Crackdown 2 has an average score of 73. Yet PS3 fanboys are bashing Crackdown 2 left and right, saying how its a flop. Yet you say something about MAG, and its "Oh MAG is a very good game, just have to get used to it". Well guess what I own both games, and they both are awesome fucking games, so stop bashing games based on a fucking review score and play them yourselves.

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