Bobby Kotick sure loves his money. In an interview with the Financial Times, the head of Activison expressed his dislike of Xbox Live..
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This guy is just.. arrghhh
Scrooge [email protected] needs to dive back in his vault and shut the bloody hell up.
its the sound of stock prices dropping
...he doesn't like LIVE, he isn't making money from it. Even though we're paying $60 for LIVE MS still nickels and dimes us for themes, avatar items and micro-DLC. Imagine if Activision got a hold of this model, they'd be charging us for perk-access, prestiging AND have monthly fees! Compared to B-Kot, MS is the lesser of two evils.
lol.. because the money ain't going to him. He'd open up Activision Online if they let him and charge 100$ per year to play call of duty
The real reason why he isn't a fan of Xbox Live is because he knows COD won't sell well if he requires paid subscription to play Call of Duty on top of Xbox Live subscription. Greedy asshole.
smack talking of greenberg and bobby kotick, i actually prefer aaron over bobby. atleast his just insulting sony while this guy is literally trying to destroy gaming.
Yeah hes just jealous he didn't think of the idea, oh well I'm sure it won't stop him with CoD subscription he plans.
I think this whole thing is taken out of context. Really what he is saying is that 60% of MS's XBox Live revenue is coming from one of our games. So if we wanted to add further DLC, features etc. we can't because we don't own or get any money etc doing anything for free on the XBox Live service which 60% of their customers are playing. Which is a good point, as people are paying MS $50+ a month to simply be able to play someone else's game online. which on some platforms you can do so for free, namely PC. I don't see this as being XBox Live sucks, more a case of... as a 3rd party they might be able to offer their customers more things or services but can't as they don't get any on-going money to do anything more than what is already offered. Which will become a sticking point with 3rd parties on XBox Live as MS will be pulling in millions a month but all the products are 3rd party made so should MS be getting all the money or should they be putting out some or all that money to the 3rd parties that make their content for them.
Are you kidding me? 60% of Xbox Live users are not because of Call of Duty. Most people got an Xbox for Halo in the first place and it is still #2 on the most played list, even with its age. With a new Halo coming I could see Call of Duty loosing its spot. Activision should just make their own console and STFU.
not a fan of anything but money imho..
@Bullet I was thinking the same thing. I played CoD online for a bit, but I sure as hell didn't buy xbox live for it. I got it so that I could play any game online. I really hate this guy. That smug ass grin makes me want to never buy an activision product again. Which, wouldn't be hard if it weren't for Blizzard.
I really don't see why you get all those disagrees. You're exactly right.
"We would really like to be able to provide much more value to those millions of players playing on Live" He's upset because the other thousands of MW2 owners didn't want to pay for live... which means they(activ) can't sell their DLC. what a selfish Cuunt!
.....LMFAO at all this Bobby love. Bubbles to everyone who has called him a cunt, gay buttsex loving biatch, greedy cock sucking motherfucker. Ha Ha Ha Haaaaa never in all my days have I seen so many expletives in one thread without them all being banned for trolling. I am truly crying with laughter. love to you all! Oh and heres my new name for him " Bobby Kocktickler" (in some parts of England a Bob or Bobby is a perochial name for a shit) eg "I'm on the toilet doing a bob" which makes it even funnier. Ha ha haaaaaa. Oh man ha ha ............ha. Ok I'm done HAHAHAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. EDIT I read a lot further down but posted here keep reading Ha HA HA AAAAAAaaaaa.
SURELY we live in a time where Homosexuality is no longer reasonable in terms of insult... do you have anything against Gay people ??
@ king many layers. ACTUALLY I just lost and buried my very best friend of 20 years to cancer, he was gay and I loved him. He would have laughed his sweet little gay ass off as well, real gay people dont give a damn what people say (nor would he want anyone defending his sexuality but himself). I wasn't laughing at gay people I was laughing at any of the profanities and passion this posting has caused. Indeed I also used the words Cunt and Motherfucker neither of which are associated with gay people, or am I missing something? Please get off your soap box with your "in this day and age" we dealt with all this pre 1980's. Gay people are cool and as an actor I see, associate and party with gay people every day of my life and none of them come across the kind of bigoted anti-homosexual superiority you are alluding to, or indeed presumed I meant with my above comments. That's not to say it doesn't happen but certainly NOT from me, or, to those I meet daily that are openly gay. Oh and why the double question mark at the end of your comment? Was this for emphasis or purely born of ignorance? Right off to choose a new buttplug for Booby Kocktickler ;)
watch this ginger retard make a console next gen just so he can charge out the ass for everything.
Not to derail the thread but we do live in a time where being gay is frowned at. I know its not the PC thing to say but its true. I have no problem with people being gay but that does not mean most people do not. All we can do is ignore it and hope for a better tomorrow.
Stop bein' a fag...
Hahahaha indeed Bobby Kotick is a big A S S B I T C H
I'd guess he's crying since he can't charge for their network in addition to Xbox Live as they would lose some people because of that or since people have to pay twice anyways leaving Silver members with no overpriced DLC. Either way he's a little bitch. Edit: Read it and yup. He's a selfish greedy little cunt.
"We would really like to be able to provide much more value to those millions of players playing on Live, but it’s not our network.” So why is this "value" not available on other platforms with free networks? u know, like bbc iplayer is to ps3 and wii? Does that mean he wants to charge us to play online but can't because ms take care of their own network. Anyway, fuk Bobby K and Fuk cod
He says that, from what he's heard, the reason so many people are subscribing to XBL and paying $50 a year is because of Call of Duty. What he's hinting at is that he wants those subscribers paying Activision rather than Microsoft.
Paying for XBOX Live is a scam. You'd think this guy could appreciate a good scam.
Your mother not paying for your abortion was also a scam. What kind of a stupid irrelevant comment was that?
Struck a nerve, I guess, if you must resort to personal attacks. :) And not even funny? Fo'shame.
amazing...an actual thread where everyone agrees with each other...BUBBLES ALL ROUND :)
Live doesn't cost 60 bucks. It costs 35.
He's just jealous that he didn't thought about charging to play online first A S s W I p E
The ONLY reason they (Activision) haven't started charging YET for Call Of Duty online is because of Live. That's why. They cant charge only PSN users, because that would hurt their sales on that system and they cant charge Live users additional fees, because it would lower the sales of their games on that system as well. If live was free, Activision would charge 12 dollars a month for COD AND host the servers for both systems.
But the fact that Microsoft charges to piss off Bobby Kotick is FULL WORTH THE PRICE! -End statement
And he probably wants to start charging for every Call of Duty game to play on line. $50 an hour sound fair? Does to Kotick. C 0 C K!
The problem with live is simple devs want to release games players can get the "full experience" from however thanks to live charging you to play online. Some people refuse to pay for Gold subscription so gamers don't get play online. Also those people who don't buy xbox live gold will not buy online map packs. So therefore Map packs etc.. will sell better on PS3 as every console can play online for free. He cares about money and when MS are costing him money by stopping nearly half there users to stop buying his expansion packs he is gonna be unhappy.
"the full experience" you talk about though would cost far more than live if it was left up to activision
Bobby Kotick, if you was to die tomorrow, what would your money do for you?
This is not the best way to try to reach a deal with a company like M$, let alone Steve Ballmer. Trying to embarrass a company that could potentially swallow you whole is a dangerous game. Kotick wants to go on line and charge MW2 and all COD gamers a monthly fee to play on line. M$ OWNS XBL and will never let anyone run an operation like that on XBL but M$ themselves. Kotick has decided to go public with his beef. I don't think M$ will take to kindly to Koticks mafia shakedown strategy. This will get ugly. M$ just signed a 3 year exclusive content with Activision. Kotick pulled this move with Sony a while back, threatening to pull Activision games because the price of PS3 was to high. Telling the world that Activision pays Sony 1 BILLION is royalty fees. M$ is far better off than Sony was at the time. M$ will have something to say about all this.
Seriously people... he didn't say anything the title mentioned him as saying. He would like to make more money, but he's not at all unhappy with the sales of his game on the system and is more than happy enough to be limited as long as people keep buying his games in the quantities that they do.
should keep his mouth shut. Every time he opens it he becomes more and more hated "We would really like to be able to provide much more value to those millions of players playing on Live, but it’s not our network" I wonder what his definition of value is
Who unite everyone on N4G in hatred against them together, Bobby is one of those people. Here only a minority is still making fanboy comments while 99% of us are sharing and building our hatred of Kotick. Uhh I just hate him.
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God damn him and CoD. Hopefully Reach or Medal of Honor can take CoD out of business.
Reach most likely will, but Medal of Honor is a lost hope for the 360.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but CoD is just to big of a franchise to go out of business. Its just not going to happen.
Too big to fail is a false primes. All dynasties fall. Call of Duty will have it's day. But it will be at the hands of it's creators, now at Respawn.
So he basically wants more money from Xbox live gamers I wouldn't be surprised to see a COD subscription based game on the way soon like the rumors have been saying. "We would really like to be able to provide much more value to those millions of players playing on Live" then how about lowering those map packs to a more reasonable price like $10 then over charging for them like they are doing right now.
This is a Shocker LMFAO. Wait no its not. From what I'm reading he wants a cut in microsoft money on live. Why am I not surprised. He obviously is mad that they are paying for Call of duty but is mad he is not getting none of that money from the subscription lol.
"where is my cut from the subscription fee?" bubbles+, that was spot on
The thing is, if LIVE went free, Microsoft games division would be shut down faster than a BSOD. It's the only positive thing (in Microsoft's shareholders eyes) going for the xbox at this point. Then Kotick would only be able to sell his games on ONE platform. Look at the big picture Kotick.Without LIVE xbox would fail. Without Microsoft, you would lose at least 50 % of your market. Dumbfuckt.
without xbl MS will still be here. xbl is just a good business for them but they have some others stuff.
What's stopping him from doing what he wants on PS3? This coming from the company who just made a deal with Microsoft for the next 3 years on COD DLC. Activision is a bunch of morons.
He's not happy with Live but he has his company sign a deal with MS for timed exclusive COD DLC of Live? What a hypocrite.
There is no way they would want to have a 'version' of COD that forces you to pay cash to play online and have late map packs.
I AM SHOCKED!!! To Hear Tat Hes Not A Fan Of LIVE!!! But Why?? The COD Online Has Become Famous Because Of Live. EDIT:Ohh I Get It He Wants A Cut In Microsoft Money On Live.Next WAT PSN Because There Is No Profit Coming From There Either. @BlackCountryBob Dont blame me tat cod is famous because of live blame the xbox fans.They always told cod's live fanbase is unmatched.So I agreed with them because most my friends prefer live when they play cod because it has more players and more fun.BTW I Dont Play COD Seriously I Play KZ2.
That is spurious reasoning, you could just as easily make the case that Live is only popular because of COD. The fact that COD was wildly popular on PC before it came to xbox would render your argument to be dumb. Look, does it suck that this guy wants to make as much money as he can? Well yes if you are a customer but no if you are a shareholder; don't kid yourself that any other CEO will do any different. I am afraid it is capitalism, you find a product and charge as much as you can. Activision found millions will pay for COD games so raised the price and millions more bought MW2. If you stop buying, they drop the price, fairly simple economics really. COD games have an incredibly popular online component which often is played many times more than the single player and people will pay a fee yearly to use it. Kotick sees a business opportunity, he aint a CEO to be popular, he is to make as much money as he can and pay the biggest dividend. If you are too blinkered to the reality of capitalism, I suggest you head to North Korea and see what type of games industry they have.
Yes Capitalism is founded on greed. Doesn't excuse any and all wrong doings related to money though. In this case MS is wrong for charging people extra for a part of a game free for other players. MS is basically making free money off the hard work of Devs. Yes, another accepted Capitalist trait. Now Devs/Pubs are thinking of ways to get more money through easy means. Ways of getting more extra money for no extra work. Easy money (Capitalistic dream). So why not game companies start charging a fee to access multiplayer portions of games? Hey, it's just a low fee like XBL right. Ultimately though BCB is right. The power resides in consumers hands. Let's not support unnecessary fees. It will only get worse if you let those greedy morons get away with it.
So your a fan of Communism? That's your only other choice, because socialism LEADS to communism. I myself prefer capitalism, so I can come up in this world, take care of my family and retire someday. Capitalism is founded on FREEDOM, NOT GREED.
Capitalism leads to Communism? Don't tell Europeans that please. Let's face it that here in the USA the major cause of division is finacial inequality which is a byproduct of Capitalism. It is something how other countries have a better standard of living without Capitalism.
Your reasoning is dumb too. Call of Duty did ok on PC prior to Xbox Live. Only with MW & MW2 did it really take off, mainly through XBL and PSN. COD on PC was bread crumbs compared to Counter Strike, Battlefield series, etc. Capitalism is the vehicle of the economy. Nobody here I think has a problem with capitalism. They have a problem with greed. And why don't you get off Bobby Kotick's dick while you're at it. And to evilmonkey501, you should take an economics class. Socialism does not lead to capitalism. Look at China's economy today if it's not obvious enough. Your logic is as flawed as saying "Guns lead to murder". Also, freedom and greed are mutually exclusive of another. Greed is fucking greed, regardless of communism or capitalism.
Not a fan of gaming!! Just a fan of any industry that he can rape. I stay away from Call of Duty games. I buy them when they are 9.99 or less and never take them online.
fffuuuuuu this guy is just disgusting. he's a poster child for the downside of capitalism, he's a goddamn financial predator.
stfu i hate that stupid money grubbing p.o.s!! he needs to be dragged out in the street and shot!!!
I hate Bobby, I hope the IW ceos win and take the COD and MW rights with them :)
so in other words kotick think ppl are on xbl because one of his company game so he want a part of the xbl profits?
Everybody isn't a fan of Bobby Kotick and his filthy, greedy hands...
like seriously, we thought MS was the worst, we couldn't be more wrong. This guy is just trying to get killed by some angry anti-Acti gamer or something.
bobby kotick go suck a dick.