MCVuk.com: Apple has at long last issued a full response to the ongoing crisis enveloping the iPhone 4 and its antenna design. And here it is in full:
Is that a genuine response?? Cus they way I read that was... 'Deal with it suckers, not out fault - we make perfect products you are barely worthy to own. We're going to release an update that just recategorises signal strength so it's your fault for the way you hold the phone, and your network provider for their crappy signal. Furthermore you should consider yourself lucky that we are going to provide a FREE update and not charge you. Now bow down and worship at the feet of your God - Lord S. Jobs.'
Kind of worried about this type of response, but will see for myself in two weeks when mine arrives in the mail. If it's that bad, will just return it and keep using my 3G phone.
I'm confused about this whole situation to be honest, my buddy has NO problem with his. Maybe what they mentioned in this release is true about signal strength. I dunno I still applaud them for saying anything, especially something as detailed as this. Look at Microsoft "Red what? No such thing, were just extending the warranty cause we're saints!"
Are you really criticizing MS for extending their warranty. They completely admitted that their hardware had issues which is exactly why they extended the 1 year warranty to 3 years for RRoD and E74 errors. That cost MS bucket loads of money to do. You know what Apple is doing? They are saying that people didn't actually have full signal, and that people are holding it wrong. Sorry, AT&T sucks, and if you hold it like a phone, it gets even worse reception. But, you can buy an accessory for $30 if you want it to work better. Yes, at first MS pseudo denied the extent of the issue. That is because early on, it was legitimately a small percentage of units going bad. It wasn't until about 6 months in that they could really see that more units had the issue than they had initially predicted. It was at that point that they extended the warranty to 3 years and lost tons of money because of it.
Although I see no reason to bring MS and the 360 into a discussion about the iphone at least get your facts straight. MS wait over a year and half before extending the warranty to 3 years. That is more then 3 times longer then you claim. 360 released on Nov. 2k5. They did not extend the warranty until July 2k7.
You are so right. Apple think they make perfect products but they don't.
@ Jdoki From the article. "As a reminder, if you are not fully satisfied, you can return your undamaged iPhone to any Apple Retail Store or the online Apple Store within 30 days of purchase for a full refund." So what the problem?
I believe there is a 10% restocking fee.
Apple didn't even have the decency to give the bands that helps reduce the issues, for free. They charged $30! Apple has really dropped the ball on this one. So we're holding the phone wrong? How do you hold a phone Steve-o?
Just thought of something funny! Soo this has been present since the original Iphone? So all the reports of how awful the signal was and they just basically said "Nope it was EVEN WORSE than you thought!" :)
Apple products to me are bullshit >_>. The only device I like was the ipod touch. Itunes to me is not even all that. Plus they make some garbage ass headphones. Lame sound quality and the design is horrible. If anybody know a good brand of headphones please let me know asap. I refuse to buy another apple headphones. Piece of shit I should take these damn headphones and shove it down Steve jobs mouth.
Bose buds are very nice.
skullcandy headphones. Why are their products bullshit? You pay for what you get...nice stores, good customer service, good OS, good hardware. I wasn't into apple at all outside of my ipod and I bought a 2010 macbook pro and it's the greatest computer I've ever owned.
I paid over 350 dollars for my 64 gig ipod touch. Don't tell me about I get what I payed for. I expected some decent headphones and what I got was a pile of shit. My god I was better off with the headphones at the damn corner store. Good OS ? My windows 7 beg to differ. Note I cant stand Microsoft but they made apple look like crap when Windows 7 got released and ass raped them. Good hardware depends and varies.
Apple's earphones are as good as those knock-off ipod earphones for like 1$. lol
So you've never used a Mac, OSX or anything other Apple product other than your iPod yet you can say without a doubt that the rest of their product line is pure garbage? Are you serious? Can you even afford to buy one of their desktops/laptops? OS X is the most advanced and most secure consumer OS in the world. Their hardware cannot be matched by any other computer hardware company out there. The nonsense that comes out of peoples mouths is just laughable. http://www.apple.com/macpro...
Wow dude let me start with whats wrong with your whole post. One I said the only product I like never said it was the only product I own so you already look stupid as hell. Second you post a link about their products on their own website of course they are gonna say its the best why the hell wouldn't they its on their own damn website. And on top of that your laughable because its been proven many times That windows 7 owns apple snow leopard man. What timeline you been living in ? Matter fact what reality you been living in should I ask ? I have a apple Ipad and also their Itouch. You are not gonna try and lecture me on apple kid. I know full well what they are about. Note that when I said hardware it depends and varies im talking about their lineup of products dude. I can very much afford it if I bought the Ipad so you make me laugh. The thing is You can get better computers cheaper then their over expensive laptops for no reason. Barely anyone supports their software LMFAO. Why don't you do some research on Windows 7. Sorry its the best OS out there. Its ok your a apple fanboy thats cool just don't be a ignorant one. Tell your god steve jobs to make some better fucking headphones. Remember Apple makes headphones mp3 players and also computers ??? Different hardware or was you assuming again that I was only talking about their computers ? Hell even soldierknowsbest on youtube the biggest apple fanboy out there admitted Windows 7 trumps apple in the OS department. The only thing I can afford ? Do you know how much I make do you know my living situation kid ? WTF are you talking about ? Last I checked Windows 7 cost around 150 dollars dumb ass. How much snow leopard cost a mere 30 40 dollars lmfao ? And you wanna talk about what I can afford. Oh shit Must I own another dude on being judgmental now ? I never knew you was my banker doing my taxes and also know how much money I was making lmfao. Oh and now you wanna talk about copying ROFL ? APPLE got fucking rich off of recycling other people Ideas man wtf do you know anything about the company ??? Oh man NY you make me laugh. Not only do you do the double standards your a hardcore apple fanboy. You guys are THE WORSE FANBOYS known in the milkyway. If Steve Jobs was to say jump off the cliff all of you guys would start a riot over who jumps first. I'm done arguing with you. At least with some Xbox fanboys and Sony fanboys they are reasonable but The Apple fanboys nah hell the fuck no you guys are as blind as they come.
And what did you post ??? Absolutely shit thats what you posted. PS3 has nothing to do with this dude stop stalking my comment history. You have no defense thats why you ain't talking shit because you basically got owned. All you did was assume and you look absolutely retarded. And then on top of it you try and act like a kid saying oh thats all you can afford. LMAO. Its been proven time and time again google the fucking information up. I don't need to link you. I'm sure your smart enough to open a new tab. I could also rant how there garbage ass internet browser ain't shit neither Google chrome FTW. Windows 7 troll far from it. I give credit where its due. Like I gave apple credit for making an amazing phone. If you been following apple since the 90s then you must know they are not even original. They do just as much copying as any other company. Please do not do the double standard. Also don't try and make fun of people of what they can and cannot afford because you are not living my life nor do you know the items or possessions I own. And why are you throwing childish disagrees lmao ? Damn you are acting like a child.
@Colonel-Killzone "And what did you post ??? Absolutely shit thats what you posted. " Was I the one making claims against Apple? You're the one that has to show the valid reasons for your accusations. Otherwise they're pointless and meaningless rants. "PS3 has nothing to do with this dude stop stalking my comment history." Don't flatter yourself you're not that interesting. "You have no defense thats why you ain't talking shit because you basically got owned." I got owned? Where in that small space that you call a brain did you come to this conclusion. You do realize that just because you write something down doesn't make it fact or win you the argument. Did you post any links? Credible info? Unbiased facts? So then no you didn't ownz me. "All you did was assume and you look absolutely retarded." Do you own an Apple desktop/laptop of any kind? Do you have any long term experience with OS X?? Have you personally used every piece of Apple hardware ever made by Apple computer? Because if you had then you would have the authority on which to speak from. "And then on top of it you try and act like a kid saying oh thats all you can afford. LMAO. Its been proven time and time again google the fucking information up." Google? Never heard of it…. what's that? "I don't need to link you. I'm sure your smart enough to open a new tab. I could also rant how there garbage ass internet browser ain't shit neither Google chrome FTW." First, opening a tab is not the same thing as hyperlink. And no I don't know what you know so why don't you take this opportunity to further my education on the matter and at the same time you'll get another opportunity to ownz me once again. "Windows 7 troll far from it. I give credit where its due. Like I gave apple credit for making an amazing phone. If you been following apple since the 90s then you must know they are not even original. They do just as much copying as any other company. Please do not do the double standard. " Please show clear and credible evidence of this plagiarism that you speak of otherwise it's just hearsay. "Also don't try and make fun of people of what they can and cannot afford because you are not living my life nor do you know the items or possessions I own. And why are you throwing childish disagrees lmao ? Damn you are acting like a child." Childish disagrees? Uh, I don't think I did that but it's funny how you totally over look your trollish comments. Am I making fun or speaking the truth. The reason most Wintrolls have this overly aggressive hatred towards a computer manufacturer(ridiculous that you should have these overly aggressive feelings toward a corporation isn't it) is simply because they're unable to attain what they desire. From this inability to do so, grows this resentment that really has more to do with your own deficiencies. But instead of localizing the source they direct these feelings towards what they think is the problem …Apple. OWNZER?
I linked to Apple's site to show you the beauty of their industrial design and engineering prowess.
LOL Are you serious punkster? Most secure? Its security through obscurity. Its the easiest OS to hack. Whenever they have a contest to see what browser or OS gets hacked first,...its OSX. Always. http://www.computerworld.co... http://newsgroups.derkeiler... http://www.ostoday.org/os-n... http://digg.com/apple/Top_h... http://www.tgdaily.com/soft... http://www.theregister.co.u... Now there hardware.... Obviously you did not take notice of Apples issues of late with their macbooks. They ranked 3rd in reliability now. And this is not a survey. Its hard data from laptop repairs. http://www.mac-forums.com/f... http://www.engadget.com/200... http://theappleblog.com/200... Macs hardware is average. MACBOOKS pros are fantastic..yet the cost of the hardware is a joke. It uses last generation parts and does not support Bluray or HDMI..OR DOES IT NOW....How long did it take to get SD support? Does not support USB 3.0. PLEASESSSSEEE. Apple is a joke when adopting new technology No crossfire or SLI support. Uses last generation GPU's. Uses last generation memory. AND guess what? They charge you as if you have NEXT generation parts inside. Sorry pal. Apple hardware is behind the times. Only koolaid drinking fools like you think otherwise. Colonel-Killzone hit the nail on the head with this. Btw. You actually had the balls to post a link to a macpro site to show its hardware? LMFAO. Dude. I can pull up so many that blow that away. Here is one. http://www.sagernotebook.co... Fully custom AND supports the new Nvidia 480GTX mobile GPU not that crap mobile Nvidia chip inside the macbook. Oh ya...Those laptops support SLI and higher bandwidth memory. Do yourself a favor. Dont post a link to a macpro site again saying its cutting edge tech LOL Edit: Apples design is where they are cutting edge. The tech is not. Regardless with the PC you can configure ANYWAY you want making your PC look however you want.
"LOL Are you serious punkster? Most secure? Its security through obscurity. Its the easiest OS to hack. Whenever they have a contest to see what browser or OS gets hacked first,...its OSX. Always." Exactly how was Safari hack Hoops…. by direct hardware access with the administrator password to install a script. Notice they didn't try that same test over the net. Why do you think that is Hoops? Perfectly good example of misinformation being blown out of proportion. And yes you hear about these exploits occurring all the time and how sensitive data and CC information were stolen from OS X boxes….no wait that's Windohs. There's not one….NOT ONE OFFICIAL REPORTED CASE OF OS X GETING CRACK/HACKED. In caps to make it clear! Where's the hardcore stuff….info about millions of OS X users getting cracked/hacked? Where are those links Hoops? OOPS! "Now there hardware.... Obviously you did not take notice of Apples issues of late with their macbooks. They ranked 3rd in reliability now. And this is not a survey. Its hard data from laptop repairs." haha just look at caliber of your links. you had to dig pretty deep to find something juicy and it's nothing but fluff.….an apple blog? lol You find some obscure survey where you have no idea how they collect their information or if any of it accurate since Apple doesn't release this information making your source absolutely wrong. Notice how you don't mention long term reliability and customer satisfaction for Apple's laptops for how many years now in a row? Can anyone else say the same? No they can't. "Macs hardware is average. MACBOOKS pros are fantastic..yet the cost of the hardware is a joke." The most important element of this whole debate you totally neglect. The OS. No viruses. No Malware. No Spyware. No overly complex technical support need for Macs. In the ten years of owning and operating Apple hardware do you know how many times I've need to see a Apple rep? Zero. There are issues with OS X but nothing near the nightmare that is Windows. Do you know what BSD/Unix means? Do you know how secure and reliable it is? In the ten years that OS X has been out in the wild you have yet to hear of any mass trojan infection, hacking or anything on the same scale of Windows. "USB 3?" lol Why when Firewire 800 blows the pants off of USB. "HDMI?" Seriously? lol "Blu-ray" It would be nice but I haven't burned a movie in years. What does that tell you.That's your contention for why Apple's hardware is totally outdated?
"No crossfire or SLI support. Uses last generation GPU's. Uses last generation memory. " That's great and it will eventually come to the Mac but people are still getting their work done aren't they? Yes they are. By the way what do you do for a living? How have these technologies improved your workflow? Show me how these cutting edge tech have improved what you do. How have you applied these cutting edge technologies to the REAL WOLD besides your f**king games. Aside from hype and marketing b*llshit the impact on workflow for the majority of users is negligible. "I can pull up so many that blow that away. Here is one. http://www.sagernotebook.co... " Wow $3000 for a laptop. Out of the price range for the majority of users now isn't it. Blow it away in terms of what? Power? But how's the battery life on that thing? Does it run hot? How secure is the OS? Is it Unix? Oh it's a gaming laptop. lol Dude were talking about work not games. Can it run Final Cut Pro? What about iLife? Aperture? Any of Apple's software suites? OS X No? So then it's irrelevant to me. It's all about the software and how those thing impact workflow. The latest and greatest is nice, sure but in the end it's not that big of a deal. If you don't believe me just ask your moms and pops... or any average joe and they'll tell you the same thing. Edit: "Apples design is where they are cutting edge. The tech is not. Regardless with the PC you can configure ANYWAY you want making your PC look however you want." Apple sells a complete solution that is lean and mean and runs almost flawlessly. It doesn't get in my way and allows me to work and because of this I make more fucking money than the average moron. My time is MONEY! Do you get it now fanboys. Comprehend my language? If I have to worry about tech support, shitty battery life, spyware, malware viruses and all that other shit no matter what cutting edge technologies are in the fucker it's no use to me! Did I just ownz two tards on the interweb? Dios mio I think I did! lol
Sennheiser, Shure, Audio-Technica
You should get the skullcandy headphones
V-Moda, it's cheap and good bass response, good for hip-hop, high frequency not so good though... but hip-hop is all about deep base anyway.
Not sure how this has been "present since the original iphone" when you pretty much never heard of it till now?
Yep, mystical 'FORMULA' is wrong... sureeeeeeeeeeeee...:-d
Nice to see a corperation take responsibiliy. I own nothing apple or have plans to but anything apple. For the cynics, your negative attitude does not negate the fact that they responded,researched it and is fixing the problem at no cost. They should be commended. I don't follow apple but they are the only ones i see taking FULL responsibiliy. Not everything about corperations is greed and lies.
They're not taking responsibility, they're subtly shifting the blame to AT&T's network and avoiding the fact that there is a hardware issue. Don't be a sheep.
I have owned every iPhone model, my wife owns the 3G and all of my family and coworkers have iPhones from the original to the 4 and not one has had a single problem. Just because a few of the minority shout the loudest does not mean there is a wide scale problem. Most of the negative attitudes on her probably don't even have an iPhone. Besides if you are not happy with the reception - which has been great in my experience - just return it within the first 30 days or wait until January when Verizon gets the iPhone. Or get a Droid if that is your thing. This is a very good response from Apple and not every company is out to get you.
this is what apple good at. Convince these type of people that Apple made perfect products.. seriously they don't.
What does this have to do with games? I though N4G was a gaming site. Is it turning into Kotaku now where just because something is tangentially related to games that it becomes post-worthy?
I see your point, but the iPhone is a gaming device too. Although reception has nothing to do with gaming.
Well it's kind of related to the industry.
I can grip my BlackBerry everywhere and it is just fine.
Who doesn't buy a case for their phone anyway?? The 4G signal is unaffected with a case. I covered my 3G along the sides without a case and it dropped a few bars. People are just spoiled, I would have given anything for a 4G when I was a kid, we didn't even have mobile phones.
Wait, wait, wait......So this problem has been present since the original iphone. They have basically admitted they have shipped a less than good product as far as signal (which we all knew between AT&T and Apple, the signal was bad). Luckily, all this happened after my contract was up. I don't appreciate Apple's responses at all and particularly the "hold it different" approach. I've always been curious about Verizon's network and will be making the change in August and getting the Droid X.
I've been using my iPhone 4 for the last week now and had no issues. I can replicate the problem with the signal bars lowering while I tightly grip my iPhone but I've not dropped a call using that method to hold the phone which to me is unnatural anyway. I'm not excusing Apple it just has not affected me and the use of my iPhone 4.
See, my problems is I hold the phone right where the problems are. I'm not gonna buy a bumper case for 29 dollars because I fully believe Apple knew about this problem and therefore created the case (first one they ever have first party btw). I'm not knocking anyone who wants an iPhone. The device itself is a great piece of software and hardware together but time for a change for me at least
HTC Evo is better.. People need to step outside their apple box and see the light.. I have Evo and my lady has the Iphone.. I can say every time I play Words Free (the only game evo doesnt have yet) It feels small and just not up to par with my evo
Droves of mindless zombies: eyephone 2.0...aaahhhhh Ma (aka Steve Jobs): Dumb bastards
but i never invested in an iphone, simply too expensive and too "unperfected" i have used one though, and they are fantastic, i just don't know how consistent they are =( bad reply tbh
Who gives a damn bout the Iphone anyway. APPLE are the ones that keeps fucking up their own tech. I have AT&T even though I hate to admit it. But the Iphone is the worst phone ever created. APPLE can't even fix their own products yet everyone keeps complaining bout their Service. I have AT&T for 8yrs now and never have a drop call. It's the phone not the service people. Kinda sucks to own a iPhone doesn't it.
I have an iPhone 3G, while I think the phone is great, I'm getting so tired with Apple. No, I'm not jumping on the "Hate Apple Bandwagon". I jailbroke my iPhone and I'm glad I did. I can do so much more stuff on it now, you know, like having a custom background after I unlock it. My friend also has a 3G except he won't jailbreak, yet, you can't even multitask on his 3G, yet you can on a jailbroken iPhone. I lol'd pretty hard at that. Once my contract is up, I'm getting a Droid phone or even an Ericsson.
1st off that "survey" was not a survey. It was ACTUAL REPAIRED UNITS DATA of ALL Laptops and Apple came fourth for reliability. Sorry. Look it up buddy. You say they have no idea how they collected the data. Its right in the link. They took the data RIGHT from the source. ALL repaired units and Apple came fourth overall. http://www.smh.com.au/digit... "The reliability study, conducted by SquareTrade, was based on 30,000 individual laptop units covered by its in-house warranty plans." There you go fanboy. Typical steve jobs reach around fanboy.... You laugh at HDMI because Apple does not have it. How nice. No conectivity to a HDTV OR MULTIPLE MONITORS Which is great for the work I do. Do that with a MAC. But wait..... No USB 3.0 and its faster than Firewire 800. You are STUPID. You think Firewire 800 is faster than USB 3.0? LOLOLOLOLOLOL http://news.cnet.com/8301-1... http://arstechnica.com/hard... "USB 3.0 also provides another advantage; while eSATA is faster than FireWire 800, unlike FireWire it cannot supply power. USB 3.0 has the advantage of being faster than both, even while supplying power." You keep that outdated firewire 800 like that outdated DVD player inside and GPU and CPU. It blows the pants off USB 3.0? LMFAO You're stupid. You just got your ass served based on your stupidity. "firewire 800 is faster" LOLOLOL In your next apple ant you say so what to Blu-Ray. Ya you dont get it. PC's do and the cost of that PC is still less than your HDMI-LESS AND usb 3.0 less Mac that uses last generation tech and STEVE JOBS charges you more. Fool. Sli and Cross fire wont be coming to a Mac anytime soon. Keep wishing. Stick to last generations GPU's and memory and that over price piece of scrap. Running Auto cad on three montiors makes life so much easier. Running Cinema 4D on three montiors is a blessing. Cn you do this with your MAC? LOL As for what I do? What business is of yours. What I do know is my PC can run ALL those crappy software programs from Apple if they were made for the PC. Thank god they dont. They are shit. I cant beleive you actually put mentioned iLife and Aperture? LMFAO LMFAO LMFAO. Sorry loser I will use Photoshop CS5(what real professionals use) and the Adobe Suite. (You know. The software used by graphic artists and the likes) The only software you mentioned worth having is Final Cut pro. Let me guess? You think Apple Shake is the industry standard for post production? LOL. It is shit. That's why its only used by morons like you. I will take Adobe After Effects CS5 over it anyday...gee...like the entire industry for post production. As for "those technologies" that the MAC does not have...how it effects my workflow? It has improved in ten fold. I WAS a MAC user. When I can run Adobe After Effects, PHOTOSHOP, CINEMA 4D, and autocad at the same time AND on MULTIPLE monitors, that increases my workflow. Saves me time AND money. And I could encode multiple digital formats all while doing this. THIS I COULD NEVER EVER DO ON A MAC. Thats real time productivity. Do they even have Quad core CPU's on Macbooks now? LOL You keep your shitty iLife and Aperture. LOL. I cant believe you actually mentioned those basic amature programs. LOL You just got schooled Steve Jobs Reach around whipping boy.
Don't argue with him hoops. LOL look at his multiple accounts my god he makes me laugh. I already shut his ass up hours ago. I'm not gonna go back into it with him. He can have fun with the rest of the hardcore apple fanboys.
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