A video gaming blog has published a new article with a listing of why and how Nintendo has failed to create a rich online gaming environment with the Wii. Check it out.
It sucks IMO
Edit: the online service not the console.
Edit: Ive tryed it, the wii web browser is the only good thing, loads up a damn site quicker than the ps3 browser... Thats the only good thing ;(
Or are you just, you know..
has officialy screwed us hardcore gamers off.
*Edit*hardcore gamers over. that would be my bad. were not jerking off here
I think we still have a bit to wait before Nintendo impresses us with online. But I still disagree with this guy a lot.
Partially because every single reason wasn't so much against Wii's online as much as Nintendo in general. This guy is just your run-of-the-mill flamer, and all it would take for someone around here to do exactly the same thing is sign up with blogger.com and drink a couple pints of beer.
It took guts to do what they did. Totally change the control interface and it worked. Sony hasn't changed their controller in ten years and Microsoft just refined theirs.
Nintendo has been the king since the 80's. I'm sure while they are counting their millions,they could care less what some fanboy blogger has to say about what they are doing with their online service.
I'm sure both Micro and Sony would love to share in Nintendos success.
I'd say that sony has changed their controller more so that what microsoft has. Microsolf has only changed the exterior of their controller.
I agree with you that it took guts for N to break the trend of ever more power consoles and normal design of contollers that has been around for almost 2 decades. I tell you that with the success of the Wii, the next generation(PS4?) of consoles are gonna be very, very different. In a good way. But of course with the good comes the bad, I believe that in terms of control, the next generation will be amazing. But the strive to make huge leaps in power of consoles will be at an end, yes there there will still be power increase's but I don't think it will be the huge increases like we seen between current generations and previous generation's of consoles. But you know, I could be wrong about the decrease in the trend of huge leaps in power, who knows?
I'm getting pretty f*cking sick of all of this "7 reason why ______" and "top 3 factors that will lead to ______ losing the console war" stories, seriously. It wasnt that long ago that I actually came to this site for NEWS, not the stupid, pointless, insignificant opinion about a console that isn't even one year into it's lifecycle. Good lord kids, get part time jobs and quit searching the blogs for every "story" that some fat 30-something wrote in his mom's basement.
Sorry for the rant but I'm getting sick to the point of vomiting regarding this BS
the wii is gamecube x2
you must of spelled that wrong you mean everyone bashes sony ok that sounds more right
That Sony is getting bashed.
And Nintendo is getting bashed.
And no one's happy about it except the bashers.
Whatever they didnt "revolutionize" ... its still working no matter what anyone says.
Nintendo came out of nowhere virtually during this MS/Sony fest and is making a fortune.
No matter what family party ive been at at any family's house over the past few months.. Wii always ends up on compared to a 360/ps3
The Online add that wii gives with its limited channels is plenty enough for anyone.
The websurfing feature alone is what the casual family person wants along with the News/Weather done the way Nintendo did it.
Its very easy.. Very Cute.. And for $250 gets the job done. The news and weather are like opening a newspaper or turning on New York 1. How much more could be expected for a casual family system?
Even if i sold my wii recently, it was worth the money to buy it, Online and all. And I may end up getting one again soon just for the party aspect it ads.
Why tie the hands of 3'rd party developers and not allow them to make their Wii games online?
Mario Party 8 could have been HUGE if it was online. I couldn't think of a better game to introduce the casual gamer to online play. Was it online? Nope..
Madden '07 could have been the first 9.x rated game for the Wii if it was online. EA has quite a bit of experience and know-how with creating online playable sports games. Did Nintendo let that happen, nope...
I have a feeling that online games on the Wii will be VERY few and far between. The utter lack of online community support on the Wii is disgusting. I agree with the author of this article that the big N is still living in the 80's when it comes to online gaming.
They could have a HUGE online community overnight, but they don't support that.
Honestly, the only reason I have a Wii is the handful of first-party games that will be pretty awesome (and for something everyone can get into while partying and three sheets to the wind). I have zero faith that Nintendo will deliver with an online experience even close to what Sony and Microsoft had last generation.
Maybe thats because Mario Party 8 was already too far along to add in online play. I would say more then half of the games getting released this fall has some kind of online play or content. If you want a MP with online play wait till next yr with MP9.
I also think that Nintendo's will never really fully embrace online play with the Wii. But online play was never a big factor with the Wii like it is with the 360 and the PS3.
The big factor is the controller and how easy it is to pick up and play, for example its pretty crazy my mother is actually not bad at some of the Wii games, and even beat me in a couple once. You see all sorts of people playing the thing that you wouldn't ever see player video games. And if Nintendo has 'Revolutionized' anything, its that.
is going to be sick. Hopefully :p
Is a sick f*ck.
yes ive tried it thanks for asking and you(dont answer that) (:
Wii isnt doing well, they cant sell games, the only games they sell is Wiimote/Wiiplay because it has a controller in it. Old people think thats great.
3rd party companies cant make a dime on the Wii, the Wii will never have a top seller from a 3rd party on that machine. This is what NINTENDO wanted: to sell a machine to non gamers, well non gamers dont buy games.
The Wii will sell a bunch of consoles and no games, but they will sell around games aroud the holidays and thats it.
*sigh* - you do know that red steel sold over a million copies right?
wii have alot games that pass 1 million
Rayman Raving Rabbids 1 million
Red Steel 1 million
these are just some
Total Wii games sold as of June 30, 2007: 44.82 million
dont say the ps3 have more 1 million selling game. they only have 2
that Singstar, Eye Toy, Buzz series on the playstation are casual audience games, and once casual gamers pick these games up, they are more than likely to keep buying a newer versions of these franchises. I believe these games are a good example of casual gamers buying habits. So I would disagree with you that casual gamers don't buy games. The only difference between the Playstation and the Wii is that there are more games aimed at this audience.
And you make it sound like older(over 40) are the only extra targeted audience, you know even in the bracket of 12-35 most people arn't hardcore gamers, even 12-25's. Hardcore gamers are a minority. If your able to target this other portion of the market, theres huge money involved.The Wii and some of the Playstation franchises are great examples of this.
you are exactley right bubbles for you my kind sir, oh dont mention it
(btw how do you give bubbles)
It is all about making a profit. That why people starts a business. Nintendo makes money, lots of money. A lot of people do not play online, not even 50%. So, I guess the reason Nintendo does not have an awsome online, because they do not see it as profitable. What's profitable is handhelds, kid games, and casual gamers. Which Nintendo does well in. When online because profitable in Nintendo eyes, then everyone will see a great online feature.
N4G has no Wii Fanboys! O_O
Look at the forums....the Wii Topic is barren...
Almost sad isnt it hehe.
Im trying to be one since i had one for a bit and thought it was great. But that hardcore gamer in me did need more even if its the best party helper to have at any get together
Wii fans don't even bother supporting or flaming right now because the Wii is pwning all. The others do all this dirt digging and trash talking, then the next week another article comes out saying how the Wii is printing even more money. Why bother when the console speaks for itself?
Really ? it seems you are still awake.
yea, i am right here
i pick up wii play and Mario Party 8
Wario Ware Smooth
paid 50 dollars not worth it at all
nothing but mini
need 2 be reprice more like $25
keep it up nintendo
modchip will be my next purchase
(reply)where are games like zalda at
what what Mario Strikers Charged or
Boogie or Mega Man Star Force
where are the good games
after Metroid Prime 3
there nothing until mario galaxy
oh sorry !!wii fit!! whoa i 4got about that BIG GAME
should call it the nintendo WIIDS
dude you bought three games that are mini games, what the hell did you think it was. you are ..........
Wario Ware Smooth aka mini
Mario Party 8 aka mini
wii play aka mini games
read before you buy something or go on gamespot are something else
dude you have to wait also there is zalda game out and u could get Mario Strikers Charged it is pretty good game if you like football.
i like xbox360 too we is my jrpg at and my halo 3
dont say blue dragon
The online part isnt really figured out yet.
they are still trying to find out the online standards for their online system.
EA is having its own online system for their Wii games because Nintendo isnt really done figuring out what the standard is going to be.
And the funny thing is there arnt really games that make use of the online functions, so whats he babling about?
If Madel of Honer goes online with 32 players ( and its already confirmed)i do believe there will be a rich online system.
its really funny how people look down @ things that still needs to be proven.
come on, barley any games go online for the wii, and the online is just for virtual console. its pathetic
Isn't hard? How would you implement it?
And, don't just list what you would have it include.
Also, mind creative licenses.
Even if the wii had online games it still doesnt change the fact that the wii has the most pathetic games out now and in production.
its so sad to see people buying this overpriced game cube, it wont even play online games,come on how can any real gamer take a console like that seriously i hate nintendo for many reason, they are the wosrt, i really wish Sega was in place of nintendo now.
nintendo is killing the gaming industry right now, so sad the wii sucks,n-ds has kiddie short boring games,everything nintendo right now is horrible really dont waste your money on that crap.
Give them a break for once. Everyone is so quick to insult Nintendo just because they're selling Wii's... It's making me sick.
I read this thing. I don't understand where the Wii comparison to the Xbox and PS3 come from, so that leads me to be confused about the comparisons with their respective online structures.
WiiConnect24 is simply a way for people to receive updates to their Wii whenever. It doesn't seriously promise a way to build a better online community. Sure, when Nintendo "gets this whole online thing sorted out" we'll see gamers leaving invitations or messages on other people's systems via WiiConnect24 but that hasn't happened yet. Why? Well, my guess is as good as any. I think it's due to the fact that they haven't had a year with the console. Sure, PSN hasn't either; but, that sounds to me like a Playstation Live experience.
I've had Xbox Live, back when it was the only real option for playing games online through a console. But, I hated it–which is soley my opinion so don't be flamin'. I didn't like being paired with people who would make me cut my mic off because of their racism, sexism, or ignorance. I mostly used the service to play online with my offline friends who I would call to make sure we could play at the same time.
That's where I feel the Wii friend codes come in. Sure, I would love a universal code throughout all of the Wii games, but then again I don't want to play every game with every friend or person I know.
In my opinion it can and probably will be improved with time, but to compare it to the behemoth that is Xbox Live and the next-of-kin that is PSN I frankly think is laughable.
Wii fan boys and girls, say word.
Expect more of these type blogs to pop up as the Wii nears and passes 10 million during the month of Aug.
I'm expecting about 11-12 million by Nov 9th.(the Wii's anniversary)
you do know that the wii doesnt need internet to completely wipe out the other competitors sales right. i mean, how can you say the wii is letting us down by not having internet. the wii has much more to offer than any other console could even start to give us.
plus the games are fantastic =]=]
it doesnt have online. to be honest it doesnt need online if its selling so many systems. thats probably what ninty think anyway.
I hate to say it, but I do think the article is right. Save for point 10.
Sure, some casual members and the family may like those channels, but what about the "hardcore"? They care nothing for it.
And what about online? Friend codes? I think that even casual users can use an online service without 'em--Nintendo are just sticking to their old ways and not revolutionizing online play - or anything else for that matter. They do everything too simple. Stupid simple. Hardcore users mostly will take the blow, but it will also destroy some experience for the casual - like the online player, or lack thereof. Nintendo said they wanted to introduce features one after another (especially online play), but that's just a stupid excuse if you ask me - why cut something out (and force someone not to do it) when it's a great feature? There are better ways...
You might be right that the über-core gamer will take a blow, but isn't that only because the über-core gamer has been conditioned to expect the online system to cater to him or her without much effort on the users part?
The Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection is doing to online gaming what ten-digit phone numbers did to the telephone service. Sure, are Xbox Live and PSN catering to an experience that the hardcore have been accustomed to? Yes. But, is there room for change in the said system? Yes.
I personally like the way the NWFC is working out. But, like I said above, I do think that it needs improvement–like attaching a Mii to a number automatically, or a standard number, or friends list or the sort, or reminding people who you've entered their friend codes that they have someone who wants to friend them. The whole friend code system can be a back-end thing that the user isn't bothered with 100% of the time.
And, how is Nintendo sticking to their old ways? They've come out with a system that changes the way the user interacts with the game. They've opened up more doors in a stagnent market. They've introduced privacy in online gaming. The only old way about what they're doing is money-making.
Also, how does the casual gamers' experience get destroyed by something that they aren't necessarily ready for? Online gameplay is very competitive. Sure, it's great for the über-core; but, it probably scares the diapers off of grandma.
"but what about the "hardcore"?"
Nintendo still got much to "show and tell".
I dont get it why you "hardcore" gamers cant be patient....
Nintendo leaving the Hardcore out is stupid, Its nintendo we are talking about, The same company that saved the freaking gaming industry
I don't think online play matters that much, most people still don't use their consoles for the internet.
I play online, but playing online is quite a difference experience, while playing online you loose some of that social aspect.IMO over all I prefer to play with people I know, rather than online. And I could understand that most other would people feel the same way, and would be turned off by online play.
I've been playing Mario strikers football online and it ain't all bad. ok its no Xbox live but the games got no lag i don't have to listen to no kids screaming down a head set. I'm quite happy, more games like that and i wont complain.
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