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Submitted by Apolloeye 1674d ago | rumor

3D Kinect Like Camera for PS3

3xG says: "A reliable source at SCE London Studio (makers of various EyeToy games and applications) has informed us that he or she has witnessed end-to-end user testing of 3D Eye chat." (Kinect, Playstation Eye, PS3, Tag Invalid)

Hopefully
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Apolloeye  +   1674d ago
God damn, this would be awesome - 3D video chat with my friends abroad, epic.
deadpoole  +   1674d ago
+1
blackbeld  +   1674d ago
Sony is very innovative lately so I think this could be true. I Hope it will be on the market very soon. :)
Sitdown  +   1674d ago
@blackbeld
Just out of curiosity...when has Sony not been innovative? They always have projects going on...most probably never ever see the light.
ifhd  +   1673d ago
old news
Dr.Richard Marks(EyeToy creator) was working for years on 2d and 3d Camera
Digital Foundry: When you began your research, did you look into the z-cams, like Project Natal?

Richard Marks: Yeah, actually we did.
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
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ShinMaster  +   1673d ago
Why "Kinect-like"?
Couldn't they just call it a 3D PS-Eye?
inveni0  +   1673d ago
This would actually be really cool. I'm not really into 3D chat, but being able to create my own 3D images using EyeCreate and such... Sounds neat.

For the guys below saying that Sony fanboys think it's cool because Sony made it, you're fools. No one hates on Kinect because it's a 3D camera. No one. But tell me...have you seen any 3D demos of Kinect?
Bigpappy  +   1673d ago
Funny
N4G FTW.
shoddy  +   1674d ago
please let this happen. I'm a 3d lover, can't wait to get a 3dtv.
imagin it can 3d video chat while you are playing KZ3. I would get psn+ for this.
distorted_reality  +   1674d ago
I'd imagine that your PS3 would explode trying to do that.
DaTruth  +   1674d ago
"Bu, bu, bu, but, only teh Kinect can track in 3D space!!!"

"Bu, bu, bu, but, you need teh advanced Kinect tech to track in 3D space!!!"

Edit: If it can record video too, then this will be great! Christmas gift opening in 3D!!!
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Noctis Aftermath  +   1674d ago
A cheap 3d camera would be cool, but since it's restricted to home use i wouldn't find much use for it.
P1NKY  +   1674d ago
3D isn't too good for the eyes.
coolfool  +   1674d ago
Wait a sec
I'm sure if someone has said this below (haven't check that far) but I don't think this camera, as describe is about motion tracking or anything to do with that. It's about 3d video capture.

It sounds like it's essentially a 3d webcam (although if real I am sure it will have further uses than that).
Aquanox  +   1674d ago
If Sony ends up copying Kinect somehow it would be the "Mee too" climax in videogame history.
Ju  +   1674d ago
^^ LOL. It sure would be. They will do it. Or at least have something similar in the lab. Waiting how Kinect works out and bam, release a 3D Eytoy as an add on. Well, they had 3D cameras in their lab as early as 2000 or something. Why not capitalize on all that research ?
Sitdown  +   1674d ago
@DA Truth
How does your comment even make sense? Did you read the article...here is a quote for you:

"Moreover this also means that a 3D Eye is being developed which means Sony are stepping on Microsoft’s’ toes when it comes to 3D space detection with a camera."

So what does that mean? The current eyetoy is not doing space detection like kinect...which is why the 3d eye is being constructed...which made the comments valid at the time they were made.
Parapraxis  +   1674d ago
@Aquanox
If MS ends up copying the EyeToy somehow it would be the "Mee too" climax in videogame history.
They'd probably call it something silly like Kinectz or something....OHHHHHH WAIT.
P1NKY  +   1673d ago
@ My previous comment
I love all the disagrees im getting. Im not bashing this camera or PS3. Im pro PS3 if anything. But 3D in general isn't great on your eyes.

Ive used a 3D TV and they are amazing except for the glasses. But it did start to hurt after a while.
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Obama  +   1673d ago
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Who's copying who?

It's Kinect that's copying eyetoy. Even the name sounds suspect.
edhe  +   1674d ago
Why?

So you can look at eachother and laugh at the specs you're both wearing feeling guilty about how much you just spent so your 'mate' can flash the last chicken in sainsbury's at you?

Awesome.

Chatroullette in HD 3D would go against most of the sensibilities of humankind, or at least the preferences of straight males.
morganfell  +   1674d ago
Some of us, apparently more than you realize, have female gamer friends...
R2D2  +   1674d ago
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Silver360  +   1674d ago
3D video chat is not Kinect
You would be able to talk to your friends in 3D. That is no where near the same as the camera reading your body and using your motions in a video game. Also as stated time and again by Primesense what KInect does is based off of Microsoft's software. What they are doing with Kinect is bleeding edge technology. They are condensing what would take a large studio and actors with various tracking balls attached to their bodies for motion capture and making a camera do this on its own. I am not saying the PS3 can not do this with a Kinect like camera. I am saying some small firm doesn't have the resources to pull off the testing, data collection and software design to make this happen.

Edit: Author of article is making a faulty leap that 3D chatting is the same a body tracking.
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P1NKY  +   1674d ago
The reason film studios etc use special suits will balls on them is because a camera can track the balls much more accurately than trying to distinguish a persons body and tracking that.

This 3D body tracking isn't really new. It just isn't the best way of tracking a person. It's better for gaming, but not for professional use.
kneon  +   1674d ago
That's right, a camera for recording 3D images/video is not the same as one for sensing depth, which is what kinect is. But that is not required for full body motion tracking, the eyetoy was doing that on the PS2, without the depth perception or course. But that is just fine for most kinds of games anyway.
Ju  +   1674d ago
"some small firm" ... something like, aeh, ... Sony. Hm, yep, some small firm...especially because they do this since 2000 now /s
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Downtown boogey  +   1674d ago
This is NOT THE SAME AS KINECT though.
fr0sty  +   1673d ago
it technically could be used to pull off the same effect however, being that the 3d camera can see where you end and the background begins, it can use that to isolate your body from it and also tell how far a limb is away from the camera by comparing the 2 slightly offset video feeds. toss move in there, and microsoft will be wishing that it were connect. 3D video chat sounds awesome too!
nutcase4u  +   1674d ago
I wish it were true but I'm doubtful.
For 3D video chat there would need to be an incredibly high framerate. The PS-Eye doesn't have a very high framerate when chatting online with friends and family, (but I still love it anyway). Any online video chat, even Skype, has relatively low framerates which are much lower than what 3D requires.

I love my PS3 and it's an extremely powerful machine, but internet capabilities of even the highest performing companies (like RoadRunner) can't support online 3D video chat quite yet. It will be 10-20 years before we see anything like this.
Ju  +   1674d ago
That's BS. The simplest form would be to transmit two streams with an angle each, compress, decompress, recompose. Also, because I am certain, those two streams share 80% of common pixels, load would possibly only increase by 20% (or something) - you wouldn't compress two streams, but package them into one first, than compress. The result is one (bigger) video stream.

Or, you go with face recognition. We've seen this before. The party games all let you map your own face on a fictional character - in real time. Here, you can do the same. Create vertex data out of image recognition, use a video to simply map that to that now virtual face and in combination you will get a 3D video stream. Vertex data will be small (only a couple of coords, or even only ref-data, since you can reconstruct on the client side) and the video is basically the same.

Both solutions would hardly stretch bandwidth limitations over current limits. The first needs a 3D camera, the second would work with the current PSEye.
Inside_out  +   1674d ago
Good for Sony
That a boy...Wii Move, now it's Kinect me tO_O...Love how the Sony camp are gonna spin this one...lol But, But it's an eye toy...lol

How is Kevin Butthurt gonna do his pew, pew, pew commercials...Sony, we only do everything THIRD best...Spin kids...But, it needs buttons...lol

Kinect is patented and belongs to M$...

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fr0sty  +   1673d ago
kinect me too? um... kinect? the eyetoy rip off that even stole the name of one of eyetoy's games (kinetic)? or wait, a second generation rip off since vision cam attempted to do what eye can do but flopped. let's not forget about nintendog... i mean kinectimals, and wii spor... i mean kinect sports.

at least when sony copies something, they actually make it better. not the case with microsoft, who's idea of archery in a sports game is aiming with your left hand and shooting by waving your right hand back and forth like you're fanning a fart.

and... since sony has move and all, this solution WILL have buttons in addition to superior 3d motion tracking and 3d video capabilities (assuming this rumor were true) that kinect can't even do since 360 doesn't support HDMI 1.4 needed to connect to a 3dtv.

so, all the while Microsoft will just keep on knocking 3d, saying it's not ready for the market, you can't do it while chewing gum, and then whisper out of the side of their mouths that they "have a 3d strategy in place and 3d 360 games are coming, blah blah".
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Xfanboy  +   1673d ago
Thought Kenect type of camera was stupid now it's not for some reason?? wow!!

I don't care about losing bubbles Im just wondering what's going on in the heads of these fanboys??

Motion stuff is ok but I will be diving into 3d!!
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ifhd  +   1673d ago
Dr.Richard Marks(EyeToy creator) was working for years on 2d and 3d Camera
Digital Foundry: When you began your research, did you look into the z-cams, like Project Natal?

Richard Marks: Yeah, actually we did.
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
player-1  +   1674d ago
I would buy it.
Theonik  +   1674d ago
+1
DaTruth  +   1674d ago
Apparently you won't be buying it; the disagreers have spoken!

@Cossie 123 below: PS3D camera has a controller and has decent games; not one game(Richochet) that is pretty much the same in 2D! That is the difference.
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Wizziokid  +   1674d ago
with sony I could see it happen since they want to push 3D but I don't really care about 3D.

But for people that do this would be a very nice addition.
cossie123  +   1674d ago
and the ps3 gamers slated kinect lol.
uplank  +   1674d ago
That because Kinect currently looks useless. We cant judge this yet as we havent seen it.....
jay2  +   1674d ago
EDIT:
@uplank. Sorry, misunderstood you
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uplank  +   1674d ago
Err Jay2 - i meant we havent seen any PS3 Version. Not Kinect. Kinect was a joke, and thats the reason it was slated.
AndersDK  +   1674d ago
hmm
And now only one thing(3d video chat) can make you say that it might be a good ideer!? :) So If Kinect where to announce 3D video chat Kinect would be usefull and worth buying then??
uplank  +   1674d ago
@AndersDK if it worked then yes. Thats the problem i see with kinect - i dont see anything that makes me feel that it will actually work!
Apolloeye  +   1674d ago
@AndersDK As far as I know MS don't like 3D and have no plans to use it.
edhe  +   1674d ago
It's different, because Sony did it.
commodore64  +   1674d ago
You are spot on!

Video chat on 360 .... poooh! kinect sux!
Video chat on ps3 .... omgwtfbbq Sony is awesome!

/srcsm
Spenok  +   1674d ago
@ both edhe & commodore64
Your retarded, im sorry i have to say it. Video chat has been available on PS3 since the system launched. Just an FYI.
JustTheFactsMr  +   1674d ago
PS3 has done 6-way video chat for a long time now. Old news.
extermin8or  +   1674d ago
no
this would have to do more thn just 3D chat for me to get it and to me kinect still looks like a flashy eyetoy....
redsquad  +   1674d ago
Stop trying so hard
Yes I did slate Kinect as an evolutionary blind alley for gaming, but I also think this is just as pointless.
Scotland-The-Brave  +   1673d ago
not every ps3 gamer, STOP painting us with the same brush!
ThanatosDMC  +   1674d ago
Hmmm... if this is true, i better not accept some people's chat invites cuz i might see some 3D dongs popping up on my screen in the future, but then again i only accept the females and relatives on my friends list.
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Theonik  +   1674d ago
Had to...

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Briefcase Joe  +   1674d ago
mmm...3D dongs.

/jk
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Briefcase Joe  +   1674d ago
I guess the people that disagreed with my joke like 3D dongs?
jhoang  +   1674d ago
What?
i dont get what this is. Is this for chatting in 3D or does it have a depth sensor that is the same as Kinect' or do they both allow for 3d chat
TheBreezyBB  +   1674d ago
This is very likely to happen in the near future.
distorted_reality  +   1674d ago
Won't happen anytime soon because if it was using sony's current "3d" technology, you would have to wear those stupid glasses while chatting, and nobody wants to do that. Until true 3D technology becomes viable for home use, something like this is destined to fail.

edit - it would be destined to fail if consumers weren't stupid.
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DaTruth  +   1674d ago
You mean the ones that look like the sunglasses you wear while driving and to the beach?
distorted_reality  +   1674d ago
Yes, the ones that only idiots wear inside the house while gaming.

edit - @ Dnied - where did I say anything about looks?
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Dnied  +   1674d ago
Is it really that important to you to look good while gaming?
Ilikegames76  +   1673d ago
As long as
I don't look like the ones playing with Kinect, then I'm ok with that.
Sony Fiend  +   1674d ago
A dark Hadouken to Microsofts nuts if this is true.
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Aceluffy  +   1674d ago
No buddy
A dark Shin Shoryukeeeeennn !! *chin upward lower jaw broken*
Xfanboy  +   1673d ago
Only one thing makes a difference with M$!!
Sony won't market it to much like everything else!!

Microsoft goes hard with Ads...
Chucky2003  +   1674d ago
if this happen i will laugh my ass off,it will be like WII HD and 360 in one console and that will be the PS3,lol,i mean if they are doing this what will be the reason for people buying a 360 or a Wii
edhe  +   1674d ago
Exactly, what happened to playstation?

Copy the Wii, Copy the 360, ???, Profit.

And the fans think it's original.
Eddy223  +   1674d ago
the only way to making technology better
is by IMPROVING it
sony does just that

and oh please
like microsoft didnt copy playstation eye
pfft
Projekt7tuning  +   1674d ago
@ edhe
I got it. That was one of my favorite South Parks.
Phase 1 Steal the under pants........
Good analogy. Made me laugh.
ifhd  +   1673d ago
Digital Foundry: When you began your research, did you look into the z-cams, like Project Natal?

Richard Marks: Yeah, actually we did.
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
TheGrimReaper  +   1673d ago
@edhe
Sorry but Sony had Move-like prototypes back in the year 2000. And as stated above, Sony tested z-cams.

EDIT:
Proof of my statement: http://www.gamesradar.com/p...
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Colonel-Killzone  +   1674d ago
Sony is really pushing it with this new tech. This is very interesting.
jay2  +   1674d ago
@jhoang, it'll be a 3D video chat, you'll most likely need a 3D TV or glasses, but you'll see everything in 3D in a video call. (You'll need this camera, obvously).

Anyway, first day buy 100% sounds amazing and logical.
Fishy Fingers  +   1674d ago
The link to kinect is kind of stretching it. Only 3D chat is mentioned, nothing about a new camera, it could possibly just be emulated using the current eyetoy.

Anyway, going from rumoured 3D video chat to how it might supersede Kinect at Reading in a 3D space is quite a leap.
sega gaga  +   1674d ago
according to sony fanboy its better than kinect because sony made it.
edhe  +   1674d ago
bingo.
Aceluffy  +   1674d ago
Not exactly
A good product is good no matter what company made it. Remember one thing though, Sony specialized in hardware while MS in software ( I like Windows XP, I use it everyday ).
I don't think I need to delve further about this current gen console features and reliability.
But in all honesty, do you really think a hardware that is created by MS will ever outdo the one that's made by Sony ? Be for real
If I'm selling mainly shoes compared to someone who sells shoes,clothes, hats etc, I would imagine I'll invest more time and energy to get the best quality shoes in which I specialize, right ? It's just common sense.
Eddy223  +   1674d ago
oh shucks ;D well of course!

sony specializes in these kinds of things, cameras, computers, televisions. I trust sony way more with technology than microsoft.
everyone should
its common sense
JustTheFactsMr  +   1674d ago
Well it's not like they DON"T have a better track record on that front. How about it's based on reasonable thought processes rather than the MS fanboys trying to pretend it's something else.

HDMI?
Blu-ray vs DVD
Lossless sound vs lossy sound?
RROD?
Azazel  +   1673d ago
what sega gaga?
Same to you xbot. You should go work for Gameinformer magazine :D
Eddy223  +   1674d ago
i was actually wondering if sony was planning on releasing a 3d playstation eye or not, specially since theyre puching 3d so much

i think it would be great, and it would really get good sales. The ps3 would be like having a wii mote, and a kinect camera, like an all in one deal ahah

personally, i think its going to happen, and soon. The playstation 3 nowadays is all but 3D, so why not give users a 3d playstation eye? itd be perfect.
labwarrior  +   1674d ago
So, now you will not only have to buy 12 different things to play a Move game with 4 players
But you will need to actually get a new camera plus Eyetoy too

so, motion gaming in PS3 goes up to 1000$ or more i guess now, amazing
extermin8or  +   1674d ago
um
1) was this confirmed no 2) who said you needed it for move? and move with the usual camera costs about 45 pounds i think
Eddy223  +   1674d ago
oh take a breather
its a rumor
and no one would be forcing you to buy it

kinda like with the xbox
expensive ass wireless adapter
doesnt mean everyone HAD to buy it

and the ps move works with the normal pseye
xYLeinen  +   1674d ago
It would be so in your face Microsoft if Sony were secretly upgrading Eyetoy to 3d like kinect.

Sony would have everything then to attract basically everyone. 3d, Eyetoy 3d, Move, and ofc their ps3 :D
Kush  +   1674d ago
Just more crap to buy and sell.
PsycheMax  +   1674d ago
On the 3D road Sony've taken, it makes a lot of sense.
But I'm not so sure, because if so they would have launched it in the same time, almost, of 3d sys compatibility.
morganfell  +   1673d ago
That's right. It's why Kinect can't track in 3D space like Move. back under the bridge.
IHateYouFanboys  +   1674d ago
A 3d camera is not the same as 3d tracking. This is about a camera - 2 cameras more precisely - that make a 3d image that you need 3d glasses to see in 3d.......you know, exactly like what nintendo just showed with the 3DS, only with the 3DS you don't need the glasses. lol. Kinect is NOTHING like this, kinect only outputs 2D, but it senses everything in 3D. They are 2 completely different technologies.
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TheFanBoy  +   1674d ago
"PlayStation It Only Does EvryThing" :P i couldnt resist...
GrumpyBadger  +   1674d ago
You are all Morons
Has anyone actually looked at the picture of this supposed new PS Eye!?
If any of you had, the more observant among you may have noticed it is nothing more that a Photo-shopped image, quite badly done too! For the less observant I will explain; there are holes in the middle of the microphone mesh that are clearly too close together and indicate the join line of the image.

This entire article is first grade bull crap. wake up people!
Apolloeye  +   1674d ago
I don't think the image is meant to be real... *facepalm*
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TheFanBoy  +   1674d ago
Just because there is a picture it doesnt mean that they are claiming that its the actual product... *facePalms With Apolloeye*
Garnett  +   1674d ago
We all know when/if Kinect will be successful that Sony will copy it. They do this will all things.
Rainstorm81  +   1674d ago
yea cause microsoft wouldve entered the the gaming industry if sony hadnt shown it was possible riiiight?

Or like MS wasnt tying to emulate PS2 this entire gen riiight? RE, DMC, FF, GTA, MGS.....is it xbox 360 or PStoo??

everyone copys everyone in this industry.....the most original is Nintendo.....You didnt honestly think MS came up with the motion control idea...did you?
Apocalypse Shadow  +   1674d ago
looks like 3D chat to me.
some aren't getting it though.microsoft's kinect is just the same chat we have already seen.the camera is just adjusting and expanding when someone steps into the viewing area.but look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

now check out the cow's face at **28 seconds in**.see how the cow's face seems to pop out the screen?and that's just being filmed from a computer monitor.

now,imagine having 3D glasses on.now imagine you chatting with friends with faces that look like franchise characters from playstation games.and they are popping out the screen.more fun and cooler to do.

now,do you get the idea?
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jneul  +   1674d ago
not intereseted, i'm getting the move, no way do i want sony ro copy kinect which is basically a copy of eyetoy with 3d tech, it seems a little silly
ElitaStorm  +   1674d ago
this picture is so fake, there is 2 camera's and 2 light's one of them are red and the other are blue.

where the hell come the 4th reflection?
tiamat5  +   1674d ago
If this is true, it could be a blast chatting in 3D. Especially with more 'personal' types of chatting.
Vip3r  +   1674d ago
I was wondering if SOny would bring out a new camera. Espcially for Move. The PS Eye is ok but is getting on a bit now. I reckon Move may be better with a newer HD camera. But if both this new one and the PS eye work then it should all be good.
Mafia2Rules123  +   1674d ago
How come when...
Microsoft makes something like this, everybody on here says its an EyeToy clone. But when Sony makes it the reply is: "Sony is very innovative lately so I think this could be true."

Seriously? If Microsoft added a Bluray like thing to the next xbox, everyone on here would just say its copying Bluray, but it really isn't, seeing as it would just be a way of having more data on a disk.
Vip3r  +   1674d ago
Think of it as an updated PS Eye.
ifhd  +   1673d ago
Dr.Richard Marks(EyeToy creator) was working for years on 2d and 3d Camera
Digital Foundry: When you began your research, did you look into the z-cams, like Project Natal?

Richard Marks: Yeah, actually we did.
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
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