For years, it seems as if Microsoft has a stranglehold on GameStop/EB; they give away tons of free stuff to employees, but Sony doesn't oblige. So, is there a GS bias towards MS?
like they say money talks and for sure M$ is making gamestop talk with big money
thats very true.....i mean for the longest time GS didnt even do midnight launches for PS3 exclusives. Killzone 3 didnt get a midnight launch but Halo Wars did huh?? I dont think uncharted 2 even had a midnight launch. Let alone if you go into a game stop (last year) you would only see ads for many 360 games......but i must admit that has changed in 2010 with GOW3
In regards to midnight launches, it depends on the popularity of the game. FreeFalling explains it better below. I haven't personally invested much time in how these stores operate. But has it occurred that they promote the more popular product? The product that sells more? The Xbox sells great in North America, promoting or giving more attention to the more popular product is common sense. And let's face it, the most popular games in North America at least, are shooters like CoD4, MW2, Halo, etc. and they sell better on the Xbox. Why WOULDN'T anyone with common sense advertise what will sell? And if MS is paying them, then that's smart of MS. I think Sony has been getting into it after the Slim rebranding. I remember seeing promotions for PS3 stuff like Uncharted 2. Killzone 2 came right before Sony started to give a damn about good advertising. And the Killzone ads sucked too, Sony didn't even make them, and they explained nothing to new gamers. Unlike the good ads today that are not only informative but funny.
it was a midnight launch with another game, but I cant remember what it was. edit- I dont think Gs did many midnight launches until recently tho. Halo 2 and stuff had one, but it wasnt until recently that they started doing alot of midnight launches I think. Now they do midnight launches for alot of games as they are having them for more then one game at a time now. like the u2 launch had another game there too, brutal legend I think. And Me2 and MAG had the same midnight launch too. I only go to gs for midnight launches tho(wallmart has crap service) as I hate GS. They ask you if you want like 5 other things every time you buy stuff from them. They suck hard over there.
i hear you, i went to a gamestop and i was going to buy infamous and the dude told me, umm...its best if you wait till it comes out on pc with better graphics and it will be cheaper lol. what?
I cant count how many times ive called a gamestop about an exclusive game only to have them ask me, what system do you want it on? Thats possibly the biggest problem with GS most employees dont know anything about gaming if it isnt madden, cod, gears or halo. Gamestop is like the Michael Pacther of Gaming Retail......they sound like they know what they are talking about but for the most part they are wrong.....Wrong.....WRONG! Edit @POOPFACE GS had midnight launches for awhile now. I got GOW1, GTASA, and Halo 2 all at midnight but then again, all those games i think may be within the same time frame. To all the stealth disagreers.... http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I say so because every time I walk in there, there's always a sales rep trying to convince someone to buy a 360 over a PS3. Even now, besides the fact that PS3 is getting flooded with games you still hear that "PS3 hasn't got a strong library of games or they have none". One idiot tried to convince me. I say idiot because they go off to talk about the systems like they do know everything when they clearly don't.
They never tried to tell me which is better, but they always try to peddle their useless extra crap that I dont want. I also got Halo 2 at midnight launch(that might have been the first one they ever had, not sure). I think they only used to do them for big games, like SA and GOW that you mention. Now they seem more willing to do them for smaller games, as long as they can do a midnight launch for two games at once.
it`s the same in the uk gamestation puts ps3 stuff at the back of the store and is not advertised at all. also i was looking at the ps3 RDR when a employee rushed up to me and tried to get me to buy the 360 version. do they get extra pay for selling 360 stuff or what? seems a bit desperate to me.
Yep, i've dealt with a lot of 360 inclined employees and some are just as funny as some of the 360 die hards in N4G.
Killzone 2 had a midnight launch. I was there. Didn't get much sleep that night.
most of the people that work at gamestop hate ps3
Do you know most of the people working at GameStop?
i can only wonder why one would hate the PS3... "PS3, it only sucks at everything?
most of the gs i go to. the workers there always favor 360
Are determined by the quota each gamestop store reaches in pre-orders. Don't blame Gamestop, blame the fanbase.
so you are telling me Mod nation racers.....was pre ordered more than Killzone 2 or Uncharted 2? I doubt that. I guess some quotas must be higher for some games than others @ Alpha above I was thinking that as well but on the other hand its a game store. Wouldnt it benefit the store to promote both? I think the PS3 has a few fans to make it profitable. I figured it came down to people at GS dont know dick about gaming. Just found out they didnt midnight launch SMG2 either. Im sure that had preorders to justify a midnight launch.
Gamestop does Midnight Launches if the resources are given to them, so blame Sony if the opportunity for a Midnight Launch itself isn't even there.
@Raiinstorm81 At our store we had Midnights for ALL THREE of those games. So yes...it IS quota. It's determined by the amount of pre-orders IN THAT AREA, along with other things. I mean shoot, GS always had a friggin Madden midnight release for crying out loud... On a side note, I dunno why they don't say Sony gives away free stuff/discount it, because they have and still do. Hell even Nintendo has a few times where we get free stuff. If anything, the least amount we've seen it from, is from Nintendo. The article itself all it does is serve for instigating, nothing more, nothing less.
i think its true at game where i work a MS rep comes in every week toi make sure the 360 products are in the front of store..obviously they pay us for it..even our training video is sponsored by microsoft we even have to practice setting up a 360 on induction...lol
Flamebait article, much?
Those never get approved on this site!
Check out the God of War III launch, E3 2010, and their RLS site. This guy from Game Stop doesn't know how to get free stuff from sony, because I have. Sony has quarterly contests for prizes from their website and gaming meet ups for game launches. The God of War III launch, they gave out free stuff, food, and let you SIT in comfy chairs. Opposed to the FF XIII launch Square Enix treats their fans like crap. I had to wait out in the RAIN and when they let us in, they made us STAND and there was NO food there. Also, I was granted an access pass to the FF XIII launch thanks to Sony giving me the ticket. They have treated me well.
I hate gamestop, amazon is the way too go.
The reason that Gamestop promotes Microsoft over Sony is because Sony is the greatest company ever made.
That doesn't even make any kind of logical sense...
It makes perfect sense to me, and thats all that matters.
Lmao that was funny bro as long as it makes sense to you. The both of you bubbles for your amusement. I love reading comments. Some informative some infuriating and some comical lmao
You sir, should be on Comedy Central.
GameStop promotes whoever gives it things to promote. It's a pretty simple concept.
"It's a pretty simple concept." But hard to grasp for some.
They each have sites where anyone in retail can go take game surveys and they give them stuff for it. MS charges $10 per game and Sony gives them away free. You build up points for reading about their products and spend the points on their merchandise. Plus both companies give tons of freebies to retail clerks. I should know, my son works at Gamestop and I have a basement full of free crap from each. Some of it is pretty neat stuff too, and you cant buy it at retail. My Gran Turismo 4 clock and actual mini Heavenly Sword are my prize items.
completely ignorant and lie all the time, so cant expect much from these guuys.
to gamestop, when soul caliber 4 came out. I was trying to get the ps3 version and the clerk kept trying to persuade me to buy the 360 version. I asked for the ps3 version and he put the 360 version on the counter and I told him, " I want the ps3 version". He then went on this long ass rant about how the 360 version is better blah blah blah. I was buying the game for the ps3 because I had friends that played the ps3 version of the game. Yet he tried to tell me the game on ps3 was terrible and the inputs weren't responsive and it kinda made me upset because instead of ringing up my damn game he kept trying to convince me as if I was some type of noOb when it came to gaming. That was the last time I went to a gamestop store. I definitely suggest amazon over other retailers.
So did you buy the game? If so do you still play? I havnt played in a while but would be happy to play you sometime. Psn ID takohma. Add me
but sorry to say i don't have it anymore. i do have SSFIV on PS3 if u have that hit me up MY psnid is IV-THA-UNITY
That is not how you sell a product, that's being bias. The employee can give input if the customer ASKS of it, but you can't force it on them. I prefer PS3, but I still sell Xbox 360 when people want it. I work for a retailer, but I shop on Amazon because of the no tax and free shipping/game credit. Amazon > All.
That happened to me quite frequently when going to the Gamestop that 3 of my friends worked in. They always insisted i get the Xbox version knowing that I just had a PS3 at the time. They must have been told to promote it. At Fry's electronics, where my sister was working, they had the vendors tell them where they wanted everything laid out. The vendors always want their product to be in sight to be the first thing people see when they go to the video game section. Since we read from left to right the vendor wants their sign to be at the left to be the fist thing to be read. These practices have been done for decades don't expect it to change.
Typical M$ strategy.
welcome to the darkside! =D
plan to take over the world with laser beam shooting sharks.
Well it's different GS for me the one at the mall is pro MS the one down the street from the mall is pro Sony and the third isn't bias at all. I only go there when they have that trade I. Special when u get a extra 50% more for your trade in and that's all
I work there. I hate that I work with mostly 360 fanboys.
Gamestop is the outer haven for 360 fanboys. I unfortunately worked there at a time and was almost killed along with my family for being the only PS3 owner in the store. that was about 4 years ago
my sister was trying to get me a ps3 back in 06 when it was released and every store was sold out except gamestop..i would call them and they would always say they had just one left so hurry..i would run down there and they would say someone just bought it and they had nomore... so after about 10 times of the same bullshyt from many other gamestop stores my sis tryed one more time and again they said we have 1 left but they didnt know she was outside so when she hung up she ran inside and said i just called you and you said there was 1 left and they said they sold out..she went crazy and demanded one,,she told them she wasnt going anywhere until they get one. so they said calm down and wispered to her that they have a whole bunch in the back, they just didnt want to sell them cause they wanted to push 360s instead or sell the ps3 on ebay for more so they walked her to some secret back room and they had a about 50 ps3s in the storage department and they gave her one and asked her not to say anything..she ran to the front and yelled they have more ps3's in the back..people who were buying wii's and 360's put it down and were demanding ps3's..it was crazy lol..i just think if we would of gave up i probaly would of just got a 360..thank god i didnt.plus i gave her half the money for all the trouble and cause it was 600$ at the time..SO THATS WHY I THINK THEY ARE BIASED...TRUE STORY!!!!!
I seriously believe that you made all of that up for some insane reason. This makes absolutely no sense at all. Having worked at a GS for four years (until I luckily broke into the IT industry) and am now a customer of that particular store, of which is still being run by the same store manager as when I worked there. I can tell you that my store has never been like that. The PS3 is promoted just as much as all of the other systems. It's about business first not fanboy crap. Everyone there is unbiased. This is some fanboy drivel right here, a flame article. And to no surprise the outstanding and unbiased community here at N4G are feeding off of this...
lol that was such bullshit...haha gave me a good laugh anyway!
Dude really no wonder 360 sells so good or better every year.BUNCH OF LOSERS (M$).
Working in a game shop for a while I have to say that I never saw Sony give anything away for. I did however see a ton of games (promo's) and other items from Microsoft. The only time I saw free extras from Sony products were for pre-order bonuses, free statuettes and mainly for the exclusives. Did that sway people to sell towards Microsoft?! no. Most people going in a game shop know what they want before walking in. If they don't and ask for advice then you base it on their needs for the console. In all the time I worked there I never once sold a PS3, most people didn't want to shell out the price tag. I did sell a hell of a lot of Wii's and quite a lot of Xbox's. I can't believe that the fanboys have to come in and kick off. Its so childish and there is really no need for it, and people wonder why they can only have one comment per article! Now an article like this is all well and good but it failed to highlight that there is THREE consoles on the market. Who gives away less stuff than Sony?! And yes that's a rhetorical question!
You're probably misinformed. RLS, Sony's Retail Loyalty Site. You're supposed to request a vendor to come into your store to give promos out and train people on their products.
That's only in America, I live in the UK and so far they don't support the UK market it would seem, just been on the site and looked. I don't work them any more and why would anyone need training for their products?! thats mental. Who do Sony think are employed by game shop?
Well Gamestop is NA and NA is mostly 360 country. I went to Amsterdam about a year ago and game shops there promote PS3 more than 360. It just depends on where you live and just about everyone knows NA is Xbox and EU is Playstation. THis article seems more like a crying article to me, sour grapes.
M$ tactics is despicable but effective. They love to bribe people, just like how they were trying to bribe the journalists at E3 with free 360s. Didn't work so well though.
journalists had the guts to call them out for doing that like IGN.
and MS pays for it...
No, they don't. GS does not discriminate against anything related to gaming. We simply promote whatever is given to us. Midnight launches are not dependent on platform, but on popularity and number of reserves. The things we promote are given to us. We don't make them. Complain to your company if you want them to promote more.
why all the disagrees? i worked at gamestop for almost 3 years, you're 100% correct. everything you see in gamestop is paid for by the manufacturers, from the signs/marketing to 90% of the store layout. something like the wii is up front because nintendo paid for that space, much like food companies pay for "eye level" marketing and shelf space in food stores. it's ALL business. period. you can't help the dopes who work behind the counter but if sony isn't paying for promotion they won't be promoted. simple as that, it's not some grand illuminati conspiracy between ms and gamestop.
ignorance + denial =( go to any gamespot store, see for yourself. hell, i love in Sony country (portugal) and even here its noticeable. its sad but true...
"ignorance + denial =(" You realize I work for GameStop, right? The employees are a different matter, but the store itself will never discriminate against a certain console, just because it's a Playstation. The companies (as dizzleK stated) pay for advertising space within our store. We're not ALLOWED to selectively put something in front of another, unless they don't care where we advertise their product.
@ PS3_HAS_GAMES: FCS, you're serious? That really happened to you and your sister? O_o Unbelievable. No wonder M$ has a larger install base than Sony in the USA, then. Dammit, well, I don't know what to say, american gamers should probably ask themselves if they find those methods really ethical, and do their VG-related purchases online, perhaps. Wow. Just Wow. Edit: oh, disagree already? For what? For listening to the story told by a gamer I have every reason to believe is a very level-headed guy? Any GS employee feeling offended by what's being discussed here?
demo station turned off at all times.
Yes this is 100% true, Microsoft has been doing this for years and not just with GameStop. I have alittle test to prove this for anyone who reads this comment. Whenever there is a big game launch for both of the major consoles (PS3 and 360) check the margeting hanging in your local gamestop and see which 1 is getting the most signage, then check when Sony has a exclusive launch seperate from a Microsoft game and check the marketing. You will see that even when MS has a not so great title coming out Sony still gets less signage. Example; God of War 3 was a huge title for Sony and for weeks it was hyped by everyone, yet I visited 3 Gamestops in my area and there was only 1 small sign for GOW 3 and the rest was FFXIII for 360, even though the PS3 version had a slight edge over its compeitor. Check it out you will see......
i've experienced the same $hit in EB/GS when i wanted to buy my ps3. i went first to Game and reserved a ps3 n said i will come tomorrow to buy it. then i went to EB/GS. there i asked for a second hand 60 gig phat ps3, they guy checked his pc, and i was looking at the screen there was 2 in stock. so, i told him reserve one for me, he went in the back room, came back with a ps3 wrote my name on a paper, and put the name on the box with these sticky papers. i never like EB/GS but because they were giving me 1 year warranty instead of 6 month from Game i decided to buy from them. so i go in, right to one of employees and say: i'm here to get my reserved second hand 60 gig phat ps3. guy says we don't have on in stock. i say but i reserverd yesterday, and he says no we don't have one, we have second hand 360 though. so i just turn back, out of GS which is in a big shopcenter, up the stairs, to the next level, into Game, asking for my ps3, 15 minutes later i leave the mall with my ps3.
I know gs employees get free live who knows what else they get. Microsoft spends all there money on marketing then there is nothing left over for first party exclusives.
MS are sneaky. PERFECT. now just add Activision and you have the filthiest videogames cooperation orgy EVAR
That does midnight launches.... Wal-Mart... learn it love it.
i worked at game crazy and the reason why gamestop or game crazy promotes MS more is accessory attatch rate. ps3 comes with rechargable batteries, it doesnt overheat much, it has free online, it has built in wifi. 360 comes with nothing so when someone does buy that charge and play or wifi adapter the store gets money for it. the only thing the store wont get money for is MS points or live cards, tho they get money from PSN cards. that and i think their are more 360 fanboys than ps3 fanboys in the game industry. from what ive seen atleast. gamestop employees lying and saying ps3 has hi fail rate, u have to pay for online and bluray is unbuffable without saying that blurays are hard to scratch. U cud say i dont like gamestop :)
I don't shop at GameStop anymore. I have just had too many bad experiences at GameStops across the country, and a business only gets so many strikes from me before I stop supporting them. I went to buy my wife Dragon Quest Heavenly Bride for the DS and was handed an open copy after I paid for a new one. I pre-ordered Far Cry 2 from them and went to pick it up on release day, and was handed the disc in a paper sleeve with a code to unlock some extra content instead of the new copy I paid for. I was told that an employee had opened it to try it out so it didn't count as used. In both cases I just bought the game elsewhere. In the early days I had to deal with employees trying to push the Xbox 360 down my throat, even going as far as to say I made the wrong choice with my console. When I purchased God of War 3 from GameStop the clerk asked me if I wanted the disc warranty, and I declined stating that I always take excellent care of my discs, and that blu-ray discs are scratch resistant. She became argumentative on that point and said to me "Don't say I didn't warn you". That is just bad form, and left me with yet another bad experience. To top it off, I bought an Edge subscription a few months ago and have not received a single Game Informer magazine with the exception of the one I was given in the store. Like I said, a company only gets so many strikes before I stop supporting them. GameStop lost a customer with me. To any GameStop employees who may be reading this, I leave a few tips: 1) If an employee uses a game for product research, it is then used. Period. 2) I don't want your opinion about my purchase. The fact that I don't ask you for your opinion should clue you in. 3) If I ever want your opinion...scratch that....I will never want your opinion. I have been gaming longer than most of you have been alive. 4) When I decline your warranty the only thing I want to hear out of your mouth is "Ok". 5) I realize your policies probably require you to ask me if I want to pre-order something, so I am not holding this point against you, but I am perfectly capable of looking through your pre-order binder and deciding if I want to pre-order something on my own.
Yeah, I get this alot too. Hell I was at a GameCrazy some years back with a friend. My friend was buying a game, and wanted a new copy. The employee wouldn't shut the hell out about a used copy. It sort of became an argument between the dumb shit employee and my friend.