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Why Playstation 3 Trophies are Inferior to Xbox 360 Achievements

Wondering why Playstation 3 Trophies are less competitive and therefore less popular than Xbox 360 achievements? Read on to find out.

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Raoh2672d ago (Edited 2672d ago )

Comparing Achievements

Your personal gamerscore and game achievements can be accessed anytime, during any task on the Xbox 360, as can any other player's. The PS3 Trophies can only be viewed by exiting a game and then selecting PSHome. By allowing achievements and gamerscore to be viewed at any time Xbox has created a more competitive atmosphere among its gamers. The ability to be able to compare achievements during a game motivates players to gain the achievements that their friends have, or ones they don't.

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might as well not even bother reading this trash..

you can compare your trophies with your friends at any time.. during your game you can hit the PS button which takes you to your xmb, go to your friends list and you can read and write messages, compare trophies etc

this person is speculating the ps3's abilities and has no knowledge to make comparisons and share his false points

which also blows out his second argument about identifying hackers.

WildArmed2672d ago

shhh, don't break the guy's delusion.

I get the fact that he may like achievements better.. as PERSONAL preference.
But quite frankly, they both have the same value on both consoles..

Tito082671d ago (Edited 2671d ago )

It's a girl who wrote that article, you can see the name on top of the article, but yeah, she said some untrue things about trophies!!!!

BakedGoods2671d ago (Edited 2671d ago )

It's really unfortunate this article is so mis-informed.

"The PS3 Trophies can only be viewed by exiting a game and then selecting PSHome. By allowing achievements and gamerscore to be viewed at any time, Xbox has created a more competitive atmosphere among its gamers."

From this statement it's clear the author has no real experience on the PS3. First, you only need to select a username from the XMB to see their trophy score. In pure 'button presses to score' the 360 takes two while the PS3 only takes one button press.

Not the mention some PS3 gamers are extremely competitive, check out sites like PS3Trophies.com to see the kind of site/forums people create around the trophy system.

"The Playstation 3 Trophies on the other hand are simply just trophies. It is well known that numerical scoring systems are generally motivational to people because they are easy to compare."

This is simply wrong. The 360 does have a numerical scoring system, but the PS3 has a leveling system. Who has a better trophy score? A level 8 or a level 10? Very easy to compare.

The PS3 trophies also have a much better comparable advantage over the game score too. Imagine this, one 360 gamer plays the first 2 hours of 10 games--probably got, say, 500 points. Another 360 gamer plays one game, but beats it on hard--they also get 500 points--who's the better gamer? The one who quickly plays 10 games or the one who beats one game on hard?

The PS3 has a much better system. Easy trophies are bronze, hard trophies are gold. In the previous example the 10-game gamer would have say, 15 bronze trophies, while the 1-hard game gamer would have 6 bronze, 3 silver and 1 gold--and probably a higher level too (since gold and silvers are worth more).

See how much more accurate a tier-trophy system is over the 360? The author clearly doesn't play the PS3 nor do they even understand the system. Too bad, this is a good topic gone to waste on a bad author.

ThanatosDMC2671d ago

Yeah, when i read that i stopped reading the article too. Article fail.

ShinMaster2671d ago (Edited 2671d ago )

Which is what makes them somewhat more fun. I like leveling up, instead of just getting a number like "35247".
Achievements just make seem like you keep aimlessly accumulating exp points without getting anywhere.

@Raoh:
FALSE, you never have to exit a game to see someone's Trophies. All you have to do is simply press "X" on a friend and their Trophies and level come up and compare. This can be done at ANY time.

This article has A LOT of false info and is definitely on the defensive.

But this one instead, was well written and makes sense:
http://www.pushsquare.com/1...

@BakedGoods:
That is exactly right.

ShinMaster2671d ago

Btw, I was agreeing with you :P

Keltik822671d ago (Edited 2671d ago )

Imo, most of the articles are mis-informed, not to mention not really news. Just a crap ton of flaimbait.

P.S Agree with BakedGoods

bakasora2671d ago

another push over article

jadenkorri2671d ago (Edited 2671d ago )

man when I invite someone, i sometimes accidentally hit this option that says compare trophies, then loads and compares my trophies to that person...I'm must be losing it, that option don't exit, brain freeze, too much fanboyism, causing nerve pain, it hurts stop, your slowly hurting my brain....

jemarval2671d ago

Dude great article. Marked it as a favourite in my browser

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DarkTower8052672d ago (Edited 2672d ago )

at the name of the website: "Bright Hub: The hub for bright minds". Oh man, you can't find a better oxymoron than this article and the name of the site that's publishing it.

freezola752671d ago

This author is really mis informed.... Bright Hub huh? more like Dull Bub. Your website is a joke. Spoken like a true Bot man.

jessupj2672d ago

Why you're an idiot for concluding that one system is better then the other when they are almost identicle.

tinybigman2672d ago

Talk about not knowing anything. All you have to do is press the PS button and go to trophies to view. And to view a friends you press button and go to their gamer card and compare.

Its not that hard to do, if you have a problem doing that you are freaking retarded. Ill take trophies over random numbers any day of the week.

blazBlue2672d ago (Edited 2672d ago )

.....What in the world is wrong with journalism these days?!

You know what? Screw it. Not giving this article hits. -__-

EDIT: Whatever it is...-_-

mastiffchild2671d ago

Then as it's a misinformed and badly researched blog which you can only suspect has an author that KNOWS she's lying, did it ever get approved. I'd be VERY embarrassed to have put my name to letting this one onto N4G myself as it's one of the worst pieces of FUD I can remember.

Fact is there's little to choose between the to systems and, if anything, trophies make a LITTLE more sense than GS because it's easier to see quickly what kind of gamer someone is by their spread of trophies as opposed to a number. Still, they do exactly the same job so who really cares about BS like this-you could prefer either FFS and no one could really argue. Daft blog.

ECM0NEY2672d ago

You may not have to exit the game like the writer thinks, but it does take like 2 minutes to load up trophies. Achievements can be looked at quickly bc the xmb is so much faster.

diatom2671d ago

No surprise here, FUD from an assclown. Maybe if you owned a PS3 you could find an actual difference rather then making sh*t up.

badz1492671d ago

you're this blogger's younger brother, aren't ya?

cjflora2671d ago

"Achievements can be looked at quickly bc the xmb is so much faster."

Do you always contradict yourself in the same sentence?

ThanatosDMC2671d ago

I had to read what assclown20 wrote twice. I thought i read it wrong the first time or my mind was playing tricks on me...

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darkdoom30002671d ago (Edited 2671d ago )

I commented this on the actual article:

"You clearly have never touched Ps3 trophies.

only the last point actually makes sense.

#1 - YOU can compare trophies at any time, Press the Ps button to access the ingame XMB, then click on a persons name, then select 'compare trophies'

That home thing you're talking about was announced prior to home, but it still hasn't been implemented!!!!! Do your research!

#2- Trophies use Level, and a percentage. Easy enough. If your levels higher, then you win. if its the same, check who has the higher percentage.
Im Level 12 and 28% -hmm... that sounds awfully numerical to me.

#3- The ps3 isn't successfully hacked yet! so another useless point.

This aricle is full of rubbish. "

-Lets see if it gets approved by the moderator.

kneon2671d ago

Also you get a better understanding of a players skill and dedication with trophies. If you just want a high gamerscore why spend hours trying to get the hardest achievements? Your time would be better off spent playing another game and just scooping up all the easy achievements.

With trophies I can see how many gold and platinum trophies the player has, which is a much better indicator of their skill. I'm level 10 +75% with only 3 platinum and 23 gold. So you can clearly see I'm not the best player out there.

Parapraxis2671d ago

"-Lets see if it gets approved by the moderator. " - 3hr's ago

Yeah, looks like they don't have the nerve.

wicko2671d ago

I also commented along the same lines as you and haven't been approved yet either :p

The last point was probably the most useless of them all.

callahan092671d ago

Trophies are not inferior to Achievements, and this statement

"Your personal gamerscore and game achievements can be accessed anytime, during any task on the Xbox 360, as can any other player's. The PS3 Trophies can only be viewed by exiting a game and then selecting PSHome."

is blatantly false. Not even going to read the rest of this useless, baseless, inaccurate article.

SG-172671d ago

I stopped reading there too.

PeZuS2671d ago

Coming up: Why brighthub.com articles are inferior to everything else

secksi-killer2671d ago

what a load of crap, they are both the same, and both as meaningless.

Nathaniel_Drake2671d ago

Some person put this together because they felt bad with the other article that came out stating actual plausible reasons trophies were better, nice try though

secksi-killer2671d ago

please remove the fanboyism from the thread

solar2671d ago

now 360 and PS3 owners are arguing over irrelevant in game scores? really?

JsonHenry2671d ago

Guys.. don't make me write an article about why BOTH suck big hairy donkey balls!

titans99992671d ago

really....trophies are not REAL, try getting real trophies in life, so the issue here is, who cares???

Who really has the time to sit around and worry about this crap anyway...get a life people!!!!!

diatom2671d ago (Edited 2671d ago )

Kinda like trying to beat a video game...

/eyeroll

dragon822671d ago

Says the person with plenty of time to comment about something he claims nobody cares about.

valanceer2671d ago

who are the retards that approved this?!?!?

Convas2671d ago (Edited 2671d ago )

This person must've written the rough draft for this article when trophies first launched ... Wrong, wrong and WRONG.

But in some of your comments, I see some of you saying that Trophies are more "game-like" than Achievements because you are gaining levels.

But you are forgetting that Achievements ARE Trophies with NUMERICAL values assigned to them, that add up into a Global Lifetime Score.

Here's the Equation for the more Visual among you.

Achievement = Trophy (The Achievement itself) + Gamerscore (Global Value assigned to Trophy)

So in essence, the more gamerscore an Achievement is worth, the higher it is on the totem pole. Another Example.

Platinum Trophy = 50+ GS Achievement
Gold Trophy = 25-49 GS Achievement
Silver = 11-24 GS Achievement
Bronze = 1-10 GS Achievement

Trophies focus more on the overall Trophies gathered, and uses a Leveling System and Hierarchy Difficulty System to determine the the percentage each trophy lends to the overall Level (Plat is worth 100 EXP, Gold 50 EXP, Etc etc) Note: Trophy EXP values are made up, I have no idea what the actual values are.

Achievements are, as stated before, Trophies with numerical values assigned to them, that add up into a Global Lifetime Score.

So really, they aren't that different save for two fundamental traits, Gamerscore and Leveling. Both are good for what they do, which is reward gamers, faithful or flaky alike, for whatever act is called for. Neither is better than the other.

@Bakedgoods: You asked how would anyone know who the better gamer was with your 500 gamerscore example right? Simple, you provided the answer yourself. Look at the one who beat the game on hard, the Achievement for beating the game on hard would be worth more than any normal achievement and would be Platinum Trophy-Esque in it's reward, 50+ Gamerscore.

Yes Folks, I take my In-game Rewards VERY seriously.

dragon822671d ago (Edited 2671d ago )

The only problem I have with this is you only get a platinum trophy if you collect ALL the trophies in a game. This would mean there is no equivalent to a platinum trophy when looking at a gamerscore. If I see a person with a gamerscore of 5973 I have no idea how many games they have actually completed without going into their profile and scrolling through a list of games. Now if I look at a person with 6 platinum trophies on their card I automatically know they have completed 6 games.

In my personal opinion there is no ultimate goal when collecting achievements in a game. When I am collecting random point values it doesn't really motivate me that much. Now collecting platinums on the other hand gives me something more tangible to work towards.

Again, this is only my personal opinion. To each his own.

takohma2671d ago (Edited 2671d ago )

Yeah but you don't go around asking people "you got a high gamer score, how many 50 point achievements do you have?" with ps3 you just say I have 15 platinums. Beat that lol. I personally only have one for tekken 6 ( favorite game) but I'm working on U1,U2. Trophies are just easier to see how skilled someone is just by asking/looking at there Plats.

Edit: @dragon82 I agree with you on knowing who completed a game with just looking at there Platinums

FACTUAL evidence2671d ago

Somebody doesn't have a ps3 going by this article!

gtamike2671d ago

I like LEVEL UP not looking at a score

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ClownBelt2672d ago

" The PS3 Trophies can only be viewed by exiting a game and then selecting PSHome."

Am I living in the same dimension with this author?

Megaton2672d ago (Edited 2672d ago )

Wow, that's some serious misinformation. Powerful stupidity at work here, folks. Not surprised it was approved, though. Even less surprised at some of the names on the approval list. Predicted a couple of them.

Optical_Matrix2672d ago

QFT. This writer clearly doesn't have a PS3 and this article is pure fanboy drivel/flamebait. Remove this POS from the front page before it gets ugly.

Squall50052672d ago

The article is written by a women.

Raoh2672d ago

lol false information and already 6 approvals

Cratos87802672d ago (Edited 2672d ago )

is a self-described Xbox fangirl herself. And it looks like she doesn't own a PS3 - so how could she write True information on Trophies?

http://www.brighthub.com/me...

And Brighthub is a joke. Jokers get paid to write joke articles like this. Just read this:

Working full time from home, I am thrilled to be building a revenue stream just by sharing what I know with others."
- Tara Walsh
"I write for Brighthub and Epinions and enjoy both, though Brighthub pays much more. Ive been on there for a few months now and already cashed out hundreds of dollars."
- Bill Fulks
"I love working with Bright Hub. It has really changed how I think about work. I have always stood by this position...'love what you do and you will never have to work again...' Now I can experience it!"
- Laurie Patsalides

http://www2.brighthub.com/w...

Newtype2672d ago

The person who submitted it is the person who wrote the crap article.
http://n4g.com/user/home/ax...

Newtype2672d ago

Wow, who approved this?

Cratos87802672d ago

Approvers:

jaredhart (2) | 9m ago
Nike (2) | 16m ago
greeneagle (1) | 14m ago
N4PS3G (3) | 0m ago
maikel19 (1) | 5m ago
Prcko (1) | 16m ago

Megaton2672d ago

He approves most loads of crap, especially when they're loaded with negativity and misinformation about the PS3.

SupaGamer2672d ago

Who is the "he" I see 6 names.

NastyLeftHook2672d ago

lol i have no idea. trying to get my platinum on demons souls, god this article fails on so many levels, i love trophies, and so do most ps3 gamers, im just going to sit back and laugh at all of these fanboys coming in here, wait..."opens a mickeys 40oz" ok now im ready...

RatFuker2672d ago

cheers mate, im gonna do the same.

PirosThe4th2671d ago

damn that game is so hard... just killed phalanx and got one trophy... try to kill the dragons and i got pawned... xD

Trophies are awesome... I got like 3 different account in each i played different games...
SO i got like 20 trophies in one like 5 or 6 in other and another one with like 100...

I lost one though... the one that had more... I forgot the password lulz

huzzaahh2671d ago

I'm steadily working my way towards the Demon's Souls Plat. It's a lot of grinding, but it'll be oh so worth it.

Focker4202671d ago

Good luck getting a Pure Bladestone. I spent days trying to get it. Definitely the hardest trophy of them all.

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OmarJA-N4G2672d ago

Just your typical insecure 360 fanboys.

solidjun52671d ago

Yea, he's one of the worst scumbugs on N4G.com. So it's not surprising that he approved this crap. He probably didn't read it for errors (there are tons of them). As long as there is a negative slant against SONY, he'll either approve or find the articles. He probably writes some of them.

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