Data shows that while most gamers are aware of the new motion controllers, few want to buy them.
they are the ones who plays the most "games" and not gimmicks.
"It should be noted that EEDAR's report is based on traffic data from IGN.com, which tends to skew "hardcore." Purchase intent may be much higher among the more "casual" gamers once they're aware of the products."
It a quote from the article... if anyone bothered to read it. Just like the Wii we can expect these peripherals to be more popular with the casual audience, the ones that don't care so much about gaming as to read online about the upcoming tech gadgets. Personally, I don't care for any of this stuff. I'll stay with my DualShock3, thank you very much.
It's N4G....no matter how much such you try to make of something, it if isn't pro-sony then you're getting attacked here.
because real gamers dont get hyped for motion control fad
any joe schmo would know that kinect is the business
any joe schmo would know that kinect is the business? how about this...any real gamer with a brain in there skull is going to know that "move is the real deal.
It's called Precision and buttons, you need it for those hardcore games that Kinect isn't going to have. I will still use my DS3 controller for sure, but I can see the Move taking over for some of my hardcore games I saw it used during Socom4 and I'm like it a lot! It is showing a lot of potential for Casual and Hardcore gaming. Bring on the Playstation Move!
And what business is that? The business of doing a complete 180 and ignoring the people who got you to where you are?
You just gotta love when all gamers come together to unanimously agree that something is horrible, in this case Kinect. Lol.
sounds like a serious disorder... is the guy in your avatar a joe schmo? disgusting...
"It should be noted that EEDAR's report is based on traffic data from IGN.com" .....lol.
So this means nothing. This could be skewed toward people looking for a train wreck for all we know. I've always been curious about the use of web metrics in market research. I have some validity concerns. If there's been negative articles on the Kinect in IGN, what does that say? I'm sure Microsoft is doing this, but I'd hope some of these companies are doing some honest to goodness survey research.
MS & Sony just want a piece of Nintendo's pie. IMO, they are way too late. Most people that would want one of these products probably already own a Wii. Forget this crap and bring more AAA games pls. EDIT: I'll play Killzone 3, etc. with the DualShock...
@ Luzce I have a Wii and I have a PS3. RE4 with wiimote was great, Super Paper Mario was great, Metroid Prime 3 was awesome. So it's not only about motion controls - it's about games for these controls. As long as good core games continue to out for Move (as KZ3, Ape Escape, RE5, Sorcery and so on), I will support Move.
because there's just no reason to buy them yet. maybe we'll see when the 2nd wave of software hits but as of right now, forget it.
It still cost nearly $200 for the entire move set as well >_>
PS Eye ($40) + Move ($50) + DS3/SIXAXIS (Included w/Ps3) = $90 There aren't any games that require two Move controllers at launch.
"There aren't any games that require two Move controllers at launch" I'm curious, are we saying that the lack of party games is going to help or harm the Move's chances at mainstream commercial success?
@^^^ There is not such thing like "lack of party games", Sony is bundling Sport Champion and there are some others. I think Cows means you can play all move games with only one control.
"I think Cows means you can play all move games with only one control." Play a party game with one controller?
Game will eventually use it. Its not like you spending $200 at launch, but over time. The money one spends on a camera like Yerbouti, is still money spent. Its not like theres a rebate if you bought a camera a year ago. >_>
For the newly minted casuals,...yeah? For me it isn't a problem. It is going to be just $50 for me - I have a camera and a dual shock already. Okay it is more like $100 if Heavy Rain requires two Move controllers.
The video I saw for Heavy Rain using Move, only showed the person using 1 controller.
The only reason I'd buy Move is for the Time Crisis game. And even then we're talking low priority. Though what happened to that flashlight/horror game they showed off last year?
Yes, I'm waiting for that too. http://img130.imageshack.us... Also, Socom 4 looks incredible playing with Move, besides Zipper said Move Players literally owned the DS3 Players in a test they did in a match. Killzone 3, Sorcery, RE5, RUSE, Heavy Rain and more is making Move worth to buy.
It's Alan Fake. j/k The Move would lend itself brilliantly to Alan Wake's game play. Microsoft should have given Kinect a controller. Hell with the idea behind Kinect. The idea's stupid. Sony wizened up and gave the camera a controller, now the every FPS out there can be positioned as the killer app for Move. Kinect has dance games and interactive fitness games - either of which could be guitar game big - but very little for the hardcore.
Well I am waiting it for socom4, timecrisis ,. even Killzone,.. if it behaves more like a standard mouse in that game,.I will pwn everybody,.. Funny enough even that fighting and table tennis looks dope,.. You know how much fun it is on wii,.. This is 1:1,.. damn,..This thing really has potential ,.. Maybe we finally get a decent RTS !! and we have the entire third party wii games lineup UPrezed,.. and some are not shit,.. That DS:E wee get with dead Space2 for free,.. is a really good shooter guys,..
the move is better than having a standard mouse, as you are holding it as you would hold a real gun in real life if you use the ps move gun attachment, no matter what pc geeks say ps move is more natural than using a mouse and we have the killer way of moving around instead of using a keyboard which is awkward btw i have a pc and a ps3 and i have played on shoters on the wii and pc, and even the wii feels more natural than the pc, so the move will be even better
I agree with you,.. Though wii's precision is a bit dodgy at times,.. it feels better,.. and there is another point,.. why it is better,.. It has no surface resistance,.. Try writing with your mouse,..With Move you can actually write readable text,.. Kinda thinking of booting resi4 on the wii again ,..
I'm passing on both but I hope each enjoys great success.
Any chance we can wait until the motion devices actually come out before we start wildly speculating? Of course data will change once they come out? Why are these people paid to state the obvious? And who are most gamers? Did you ask the people with PS3s? Did you ask people with 360? How many is this 'most gamers?' 10 people? 20 people? 10 million? there are almost as many PS3 owners as 360 owners so how could a few million tip the scales so far? Where do i get a job like this to state the obvious and get paid
i heard that most of the Move game will cost $39.99 and most of the (Kinect4) games will cost $59.99 Can someone name (1) kinect4 game that is worth $59.99. i can name alot of Move Game that are worth $59.99 and $39.99. K3,HR and ect.... the sorcery game looks like steal for $39.99....
i'm getting move because of 'sorcery', that game looks awesome.
What data is that? The Amazon preorder data show preorders of Kinect shot up to #1 after E3? Please, what a joke. 1UP has seriously gone downhill since all the real talent started leaving a few years ago.
i plan on getting move without question.sure over the years i've played castlevania,mega man,contra,gunstar,dmc,metroid ,ninja gaiden,streets of rage,etc.but i like to game any and every type of way. if virtual reality headsets were on the market for consoles,i'd buy that too.when i go to gameworks,i play gun games like la machine guns and house of the dead.racing games like f355 and initial D.but gaming isn't just playing with a joystick or controller.it could be with a keyboard or mouse.gamers don't shy away from games because of the controller.THEY ADAPT.that's what gamers do:ADAPT.just like the ones hating on killzone.they are not gamers.because they refuse to adapt. i have eyetoy and pseye.and i have had fun with both.i've watched dr marks over the years trying to make motion control work for sony.from wands,drink cups in 2005 E3.gaming is fun.move looks like fun.even kinect could be fun with the right software.but i like sony's accuracy and use of buttons.because i want a deeper experience.and with 3D,an immersive experience. day one for me.
The fact of the matter is that the early adopters of the new motion tech will be the current install base of both consoles. Word of mouth and advertising will then bring in more of the casual gamers over time. Sony's advantage is that at launch, the Move will have games that cater to both the hardcore and casual gamer, so both have more of an incentive to purchase Move at launch or soon after. On the other hand Microsoft has failed to 'Kinect' with it's hardcore user base (see what I did there ;) and has not shown anything of substance for which the hardcore 360 gamer can use Kinect, apart from navigating the dashboard that is. But lets be honest, is anyone really that gullible to pay $150 Just to scroll through the 360 dashboard?!? Microsoft have not shown any games for the hardcore 360 gamer that use Kinect, heck they don't even suggest that kinect is for the hardcore 360 gamer! What it has shown is cool looking shovelware, that the casual gamer has already played and traded on the wii. What Sony is showing with it's software lineup is that Move bridges that gap perfectly between both the casual and hardcore crowd. Yes there's the usual casual shovelware (Move Party, Move Sports etc etc), and also the quality hardcore titles (SOCOM4, Killzone3, etc etc), but Sony also has games like Sorcery which appeals to BOTH the casual and hardcore gamer. That is definately a Win for the Move IMHO!!!
Trying writing the same article in November after the marketing campaign has has actually started and the holidays roll around Kinect will easily sell through after Black Friday demand has ripped it off the shelf..if Microsft markets it to the kid channels (especially that Kinectimals) they will see HUGE numbers for the peripheral I'm suprised 3DS won't be available this holiday..that thing is going to rake in the dough as well Evil
Don't forget the Move has almost 2 months before the Kinect to establish itself. More then enough time for advertising, sales, bundles,fixing glitches or problems and proving it's better. This crucial time could cost Microsoft the motion control war.
If "purchase intent" for Kinect is low, then "purchase intent" for Move must be incomprehensibly low.
I think that the motion controllers are going to be marketed as impulse items during the holiday season. I'll bet that this year they'll do well, but see declining sales until they become standard pack-ins with every console sold and their sales can no longer be measured.
The issue with that is the $300 in addition that those "impulse buys" will require. Nintendo might have had it easy with the Wii, its $200 price tag for which you then had to get a nunchuck and older controller, but what are the chances that the same Wii crowd that don't really buy any games are going to want a Wii-sports clone for $400+ just for its HD graphics?
Able to further explain where you came up with "Wii-sports clone for $400+ just for its HD graphics"? Are you saying people are gonna buy a new ps3 with move to just play the wii sports clone for 400+ or without buying a system, Move alone will cost around 400+ dollars to just play a wii sports clone? Because I have a system already and will be getting Move to use with KZ3, LBP2, Socom 4, Socery, and maybe Time Crisis, and without the games that'll cost me around 100 unless I feel like getting the nunchuck for another 30, which I can use the DS3 in place of if I feel like saving money.
I meant impulse buys for people who already have consoles. Parents not knowing what else to get for their kids, things like that. I'm sure by the holidays we're going to see console bundles that have the motion controllers packed in for a reasonable price as well. The only way they'll really drive new console sales is by being loss-leaders, because at the end of the day most developers are just going to be throwing shovelware at them anyway.
Both Move and Kenect have steep price tags if their "expected" targets are first-time console buyers, who like the average Wii buyer, both lack a full understanding of the PS3/360's features and have no intention of learning/using them. MS especially is looking to sell to the non-typical gaming consumer, the same people who bought a Wii, but IMO they have another thing coming if they then expect those same people to go online, get XBL, and adopt a 360 way of life. They're just going to get one or two party type games never going near the next Halo or Gears despite a mountain of advertising. And when they don't, if their numbers actually do grow, its going to be the uber loyal shooter fanbase that suffers.
its a wait and see with mee
Im buying kinect but not move i mostly use ps3 to post on n4g games not so mutch looking forward to apps for pc kinect.
I just bought the Wii to have all 3 systems in the house and i got all the excercise with the wii.
9 out 10 people chose Coke over Pepsi. Does that mean nearly all of America drinks Coke?
well most people are expecting a wii clone from both microsoft and sony so they have to prove them wrong
well ,.. Well lets say Move is a Wii clone,.. Except If you watch tech demos , of eyetoy from ps2,... it is not,. (Kinetic is blatant copy of ps2s eyetoy though,. Even dodge ball demo)... But let say it is,... 1. Except it is 1:1 (precise as fuck- top spin mofo!! in table tenis),.. on all axis,..x,y,z , 1:1 .. 2. it does augmented reality (and cool minigames for kids you can do with that) 3. It has entire horsepower and graphics/sound fidelity of the ps3 4. does Wii shovelware party stupid games for kids,.. but its more precise WHAT IS BAD ABOUT THAT ??? Like there is something blatantly bad with a wii ,... Except that its power is gamecubes basically ,.. And hardcore,.. or lets say ˝mature˝- whatever that means ,.. are rare Resi4 on the wii puts 4/5 of this gen to shame,.. and its gamecube port,.. And why not with buttos and analogs ? Couse it feels so much better,.. It makes you experience more imersive ,.. If you point and shoot at zombies head,.. KINECT ,.. Cant do any of that shit,..
ps3 owners will buy move. families will buy 360 and kinect. kinect will sell consoles move wont because kinect is the new thing kids will want it period. core gamers wont buy kinect till ms gets real games on it. i will just cause i dont have wii and it looks like hella fun. move will still make big sales just not console sales.
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