An interesting thought came up in some post-E3 discussions with friends: with the introduction of the new Kinect for the XBOX 360 and Move for the Playstation 3, has console gaming become more expensive than being a PC gamer?
epic fail article.
Agreed. The cost analysis of each console is flawed, especially if you're a bargain hunter (which the author seems to imply is the case when looking for PC items, but NOT when looking for console items). It's interesting that the most accurate part of the analysis is exclusively the cost of PC gaming. Let's not forget: Kinect isn't officially priced yet, you can get a year of Live Gold for under $50 these days, the PSN+ offer is NOT required to play online, the Move bundle includes the $50 webcam, and the Wii does NOT have a webcam (ok it does, but it's only compatible for ONE game and isn't licensed by Nintendo).
PC is cheaper anyway tbh. Cost of a normal PC = £350 Cost of a gaming PC = £500 Therefore, a gaming PC, or upgrade is £150 Which is < a Console
If that were the case, then you'd have to add that much money for every single additional player in the household. That's also another flaw in the article: it details adding a second controller, but anyone who's ever bought a console buys a second controller for supporting multiple players in a local environment. That's not possible for PC unless you shell out money for multiple USB game pads (about the same price as console ones, especially wireless ones) or get another PC altogether for LAN (local) play. In essence, the more someone has to spend for additional players on one console, the better the savings.
The initial investment in a PC is a steep one compared to what the consoles cost, especially now that they have gone down in price over the past couple years. However the extra features and uses, larger storage medium, cheaper games, MUCH larger catalogue of games, and higher graphical quality the PC will allow compared to the current consoles certainly make the PC look not as expensive as one might think when compared to the consoles capabilities.
Lets not forget that a PC isn't just for gaming. People seem to forget that when comparing them to consoles.
I built mine for $460 CAD and it easily outperforms all the consoles on multiplatform games. so they really didn't need to list the pc price so high also the games could go much cheaper to because steam always has large sales a couple times a year that have even recent games at huge discounts like the sale right now. edit:just read the article he bought his pc from dell that's the problem would have been much cheaper to build one. also why is there a charge for PS3 online service?
Playing nearly all multi platform titles on my Pc saves me more than enough every year over buying the console version to afford a nice upgrade, a new graphics card or whatever. At least 10 pounds a game over 15-20 titles for a year is not to be sniffed at
Have you seen Steam's sales? It IS a bargain.
lol, PC is for "hardcore" gamers, while consoles are for the "casual" gamers. PC has mods and stuff like that, which is a big thing, if PS3 or Xbox can get mods onto the console, then that will be a huge plus.
you forget UT3 on the PS3 did support mods
So console gaming is more expensive because it has the option of multiplayer on one setup and corporate-backed motion controls and games cost a little more? Awesome, lol.
Mouse superior Motion gimmicks inferior 8800gtx
I have a Frag FX for my ps3... works with any game.... Moot point buddy. article never said anything about controller preference.
Since when did Frag Fx come packaged with the PS3? that would raise the price. Also the article puts the PC at 1000usd. I could easily build a good gaming one for 500-700usd, even the 500usd version would be way ahead of any console. @below If its about the price then the PC then the 1000usd listed for the PC are for a very high spec machine, while even a 500usd machine will outperform a console multiple times. Not to mention the same 500usd machine really does everything, while for consoles thats just a marketing campaign.
I was just saying we don't need comments about controller preferences its about price. and I just added the fact that PC isn't the only place to use a mouse. I like the mouse for shooters and RPGs too but this article isn't about that.
If you fix the few errors in the motion control, webcam, and online service, The article kind of negates its own point... ecspecially with the ps3. Not to mention the fact that some games on PC... including the most popular one requires a subscription to enjoy it fully. The only thing I could say to help his argument is to include the fact you can play free games all over the internet. Consoles don't every really have totally free games with out stipulations. One the other hand I built my PC myself and it'll run any game out there.... but I payed more than $1000 for it and its by no means a dream machine. Plus you need a monitor.. or at least an HD TV... a game console only needs a regular TV, which everyone has at least one.
Check out tomshardware.com You could make a 2000usd PC and completely botch it with a poor GPU. Remember the GHZ on your CPU dont mean much without a good enough GPU to back it up. Tomshardware is a good place to start with, for 500-700usd you could make a PC that will far surpass any console.
No because, unlike parts to get your PC running Kinect and Move are optional.
Here you go, author. All of this is also to assume that PCs can accommodate two (or more) players comfortably, which is almost never the case. PSN is free, so no charge there. The Wii doesn't have a webcam, as far as I know, and the cost of webcams for Xbox 360/PS3 is included in the price of its motion control bundle. Other factors include the resale value of PC games versus console games. Console games easily get half of their value back, if not more than that. Consoles also require no upgrades, and (as the author states here), even if they do break, they will be fixed. You build your own PC, you better get to hitting the books on how to deal with any immeasurable number of software or hardware issues. Oh, and, of course: online options aren't needed to play most games for any platform. Also, since the PC can't yet do motion control, there isn't any real need to include it. Thus, the chart could even be read as: PC: 4050 Xbox: 3950 PS3: 3950 Wii: 3250 Doesn't look quite as cheap now, does it?
Article is trash.
Why do you need a second controller to the consoles when the PC (keyboard/mouse) only supports one ? And why isn't there a cost for motion control for the PC ? Oh right....
Price hasn't been determined yet for Sixense.
There isn't a cost yet for motion control on the PC, but there is someone working on it. http://www.mgestyk.com/
why you have to buy second controller for consoles but not for pc? motion control and psn+ and web camera are optional. so only console games are more expensive
"So only console games are more expensive" You forgot they are inferior versions too. 8800gtx
I don't agree with article , however I agree that PC gaming Is NOT expensive and stop comapring apples to orange ffs.
Unless you're hardcore into flight sims. I used to spend nearly the cost of a console on just a yoke or joystick, and then there's rudder panels and all manner of instrument panels. If you are real hardcore then you'd probably start with something like this and add on a few more parts. http://www.simpilot.com/ser... but even for my PS3s I've easily spent double the cost of a console on extra DS3s, PSEye, Joysticks for flight sims, Frag FX for FPS and a Logitech Driving Force GT. And soon a bunch of moves and navigators will be added to the pile. Oh and I almost forgot all the guitars, mics and a drum set for GHWT.
Just the mere thought of a 3DTV makes me shudder....then there's those 3D-glasses too. On an unrelated note, I just got the CoD Collection for $30 over Steam!
Not quite sure why the author of this article included motion sensing gear in the console comparison and no motion sensing gear in the PC comparison. The article would have still illustrated it's point just as well if you had totally ignored the motion sensing stuff. The key expense for gamers is the actual games themselves, this is the key area the PC wins out on. There is no license fee for PC games which is why they are cheaper on release and get cheaper a lot quicker than console games. When you add in the affect of the steam sales (where good games can be picked up for the price of a sandwich) the PC gets even cheaper. The author of the article is correct a $1000 PC will easily last a gamer five years or more and at 1 game a month will work out costing either the same of slightly cheaper than owning an xbox 360 or PS3. Then naturally even if you have a console you will still need a PC to do stuff that the consoles cannot do (no they don't do everything despite what certain console manufacturers would like you to believe). If you like gaming on a console then fine, but don't make the mistake of thinking you are getting a bargain and PC's are too expensive because that sure as hell is not the case.
Um, not really, you need to buy a TV. Plus, not every single computer is exactly $1000. Idiot. Sure, I paid $1000 for mine 2 years ago and it still plays every game on max settings with 0 slow down, but that means you could buy the exact same rig today for like $600. Not much more than a console (and less if you bought a launch PS3) not including games and motion controls or an HDTV.
Under PS3, motion control is not $100. It's $80 (for both Move and Sub-Controller). Also under PS3, online service cost is not $250. Considering this is a comparison to PC gamers, who play games online with others, there should be nothing here as PS3 gamers can play games online for free. This article implies that PlayStation Plus is required, which it's not. PS3's total in this case should come out to $4080. (technically, this article shouldn't even include motion control - makes no sense in a comparison to PC gaming) Xbox 360 and PC on the other hand are missing its web cam prices. Last time I checked, you need to buy a web cam for both platforms. That should come out to $4050 for PC and $4400 for Xbox 360. What about a controller for PC? Toss in another $50. That's $4100. And finally, the most important piece that's missing. A $1000 PC won't be able to play ALL the latest in great games. So upgrades are needed to do so. Factor in those prices. One last thing: since when does Wii have a web cam? I don't have a Wii, so I wouldn't know if it had one but I don't recall seeing one anywhere.
Nope you are wrong there a $1,000 PC will easily play games maxxed out for 5 years or more. A $1000 PC will at least be able to play games at higher settings than the console even if it wouldn't be able to "max" out the game towards the end of it's life. If you are going to factor upgrades into the costs then what about repair costs for the consoles ? Both consoles have had their fair share of problems and you only get a 1 year warranty on them. If something breaks in my PC I can fix it with minimal cost if something breaks in the console you have to pay a flat $150 fee or buy another console.
Maybe you got me there (on the upgrades). I have nothing against PC gaming, it's just that my computer is pretty terrible at it, so I wouldn't really know. As for console repairs, my Xbox 360 has only killed itself once (thank God) and my PS3 has never. I got my 360 in 2005 and my PS3 in 2006. Not much repairs needed on my end. Although, I'd understand if your Xbox 360 kills itself eight-hundred times. Trust me. I've seen it.
The nature of console reliability cannot really be predicted you could find someone that has had their xbox/PS3 for 3 years and never had a problem. Equally you could also find someone that has gone through 2 or 3 xbox's/PS3's in the same time. So we can't really use that in the comparisons but it is something to be aware of. The same with upgrading, a decent PC costing $1,000 will have no problems playing games for 5 or more years at better settings than the console. Now towards the end of it's five year life it will stuggle a bit to play games maxxed out but it will still be running them a lot better than the consoles. The only people that ever need to keep upgrading their PC every five minutes are people that buy $40 graphics cards. If you want to get a satisfactory life span out of your graphics card then you need to spend between $150 - $200 that will get you a graphics card that will last a hell of a long time and stop you having to upgrade to another crappy $40 graphics card when a new game has been released.
I've spent about $800 total on my PC gaming rig, not including games. It plays most games at max settings just fine. It even handles Crysis on medium-high settings. So, your whole logic about the "upgrades", and even the $1000 price point used in this article, is incredibly inaccurate.
Upgrades needed? Why? No predecessor of mine shall outperform me. 8800gtx
This article is flawed, I got a self-built gaming PC* for only $450 with a nice monitor to go with it. And PC's are not only for gaming. But at the same time PC's don't have as many game releases and (in most cases) don't work well for offline multiplayer. They both have strengths and weaknesses. *It runs Crysis smoothly on the highest settings.
I have to ask this because I honestly don't know, but can you trade in PC games? I trade console games I don't fell like keeping in and reduce the price of other games I buy. So his figures for games is going to differ for everyone. Also, some of us do buy controllers and wireless receivers and such to use with PC games.
Trading games is like giving a kick in the nuts to the devs, since the next time that sells the dev doesnt get any royalty. Lastly most devs are now taking counter measures to this, people who buy used games will need to pay to use activate certain content. Hence you may not be getting the deals you currently get when trading console games. I think the deals on steam more then turn the tide around. Bought bioshock 2 few nights back for 14usd. try getting that price anywhere.
Yeah well pc gaming has been around for ages now... shame windows and MS has holded it back and it has become so stagnant if you want variety ps3 is the place to be, pc's are only good for shooters and MMORPGS, and it looks like ps3 has nicked off with that as well, oh well when you can play Killzone 3, Infamous 2, Socom 4, Sports Champions, GT5, GOW III, Demon Souls, Heavy Rain on PC let me know, until then I will not upgrade my 5 year old pc, which to be honest is no good for gaming Edit I spotted a mistake in their calculations lol, no way would you get a game per month on all platforms and if you get the starter pack on ps3 you dont need another eye as it comes in the starter pack -50 for the website.
PC it may cost a bit at first but after 20 games and 2 year its way more cost effective than any console I have all current Gen consoles and spend less than 5 hours a week on them yet on my PC just on Steam alone I have over 35 hours a week clocked and that is with me been out of the house between 8am - 5pm Monday to Friday
i wasnt aware that buying a gaming pc (1000) was cheaper than the most expensive console PS3 (300)...
just became 300 and you get one controller. Not to mention the Tv you need oh and by the way A Pc does a hell of a lot more than the PS3 becasue it's a PC. Oh and check the steam sale RE5 $15, L4D2 $10, GTA4 $9 Mirros Edge $5, Mass Effect 2 24.99. You wish you can get console games that cheap not to mention all the above are full HD if you have a decent computer which is cheaper than $1,000 by the way.
Well don't forget 5 gaames on console is $300 on PC?? $225 I'll use the extra cash to buy 5770 soon & play @ 1080p!! http://www.newegg.com/Produ... The price 3 console games to do this!! http://www.youtube.com/watc... Bha bha PC gaming cost to much?? PC cost more upfront but over the long hall no!!
This chart is way off the marks.
consoles are of use only for their corosponding exclusives. to buy a multiplat title on anything other than pc is foolish. $10 more for the infirior port..... No Thanks!!!!
10 extra bucks for maybe a sort of HD game at 30 FPS.
Though price is always mentioned as a negative for pc gaming, it is not the main reason why consoles are the preferred gaming platforms. For true gamers, it's about the GAMES, it always has been. But I don't expect pc fanboys to understand this, they play specs while we play games. Or maybe they do realize this, which is why they keep bitching about consoles even they have "teh better gfx, teh high rez and moar AA!" It kills them that they cannot play all the awesome console exclusives on their rigs. So yeah pc fanboys, keep pouring money into your top of the line pc, in the end both you and me use our pc's the same way 80% of the time; watching internet porn.
you talk like there are so many that are good maybe 4 which are on one console, and there are tons of good multiplat games that the PC gets that destroy the console version, Not to mention the whole MMORPG genre that consoles don't even have. I'll give you Uncharted 2, GOW3, MGS4, and Killzone barley cause it's really nothing special, I'll take BFBC2 over Killzone any day and your version does not even look like the same game compared to the PC. Well back to some real HD gaming, Don't worry someday you conole guys will get there. And for the last time PC does a hell of a lot more than games.
Motion control are you serious? Dolphin is a Wii emulator allowing you to play Wii games using the Wii remote on the PC and it's FREE. My PC plays PS2 games while most PS3 don't. I always game at 1080p while 360 and PS3 don't. I game across 3 25" monitors so I have a clear advantage of peripheral vision in FPS and driving games online. Or I can play on the big screen while sitting on the couch like consolers. Most PC gamers don't have a Blu-ray drive because a 1tb Hdd has enough room for Blu-ray movies and games and porn Last but not least I can troll N4G on one monitor while playing BFBC2 on another monitor while streaming the world Cup on another monitor while Video chatting with friends that I'm pwning in BFBC2 Can your 360 or PS3 do that? NO. Yes I have a $2500 system but I do more than just play games while sitting on the couch. for $300 you get a cool gaming system for $2500 you get almost everything.
Sure, PC is cheaper.
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