Videogamer.com: German developer Crytek, however, has achieved its 3D effect for upcoming multiplatform shooter Crysis 2 in a way that hardly impacts on performance.
that definitely knows what they're doing.
True, but Cevat Yerli is a straight up "I'm better than everyone else so I'm going to soil my panties" type of guy. Crysis 2 looks pretty promising though. EDIT: Google his name with interview in front of it, and just read. I'll take Killzone 3 over Crysis 2 any day of the week.
Surely you're not upset that someone other than a Sony first party developer can say "we have the best looking game in existence" an have it ring true...or is it that Crysis 2 looks to blow all pre-conceptions of the limitations of multiplat games away... I'd love to see you quote one article where he big notes himself. As far as I've seen they are extremely humble about their technical knowledge, 3D is not even a selling point for Crysis 2...what does that say?. They are one of the best developers around and it shows. Nothing wrong with stating the facts, the make no false claims, they detail the performance and it is true. @inveni0 Love how 1 unreleased game is apparently better than another unreleased game according to you, you'd make a great psychic.
Well, the question is really is this: Will it be the same 3D that Killzone 3 has? If Jimmy Fallon doesn't crap his pants with awesomeness, then no...it's not. @dchalfont Honestly, I'm more impressed with Rage on consoles than Crysis 2. But neither of those two games seem to have the incredible AI that KZ2/3 have.
dchalfont Let's not get carried away here. The game looks good but let's leave the comparisons until after it releases. I have no doubt it will be a great looking multiplat game, but it wouldn't be the first. I am more concerned with the game being fun. I have Crysis 1 on PC and while it looks great and all, it is a pretty bland shooter. I just hope they make the second one more fun. BTW I am buying the PC version so you guys can have a pissing contest all you want while I play the best version.
That's unfortunate, I thought it was one of the most open and epic shooters I've ever played, performance issues certainly hamper the enjoyment. But I'm sure if it ran at 60 frames constantly you would enjoy it more. I can't enjoy any game that has frame rate dips so I haven't played Crysis in a while, but I can look beyond that. I have never played another shooter like Crysis.
Wow, this will heat up courtesy of the ailment "butthurtitis" that comes along with an overblown ego that gets deflated. Crytek...salute!
@inveni0 "Will it be the same 3D that Killzone 3 has? If Jimmy Fallon doesn't crap his pants with awesomeness, then no...it's not." Oh puhlease, like Jimmy Fallon is some kind of supremely wise, all-knowing god of gaming. Give me a break. Jimmy Fallon seems about as soft core as they come.
He almost came twice when natal was showed the first time and second time. That dude is impressed really easy.
Sorry, gamer2010. I forgot to add my "/s" mark.
Crysis 2 is going to dominate!
why so much arrogance in this company? dont need to apeal to this behavior "Crysis better than other FPS" "Crysis 3D better than Killzone 3D" "Crysis better than Halo and Killzone" STFU!! who is the PR, AaronG? HipHopLamer?
I think Crysis 2 will still be great. No matter what they HOW great they say it'll be ;D
I feel the same way mate, Day 1, looks awesome. Glad you like it as well.
are not rendering the frame twice? So this is a different method hmm.
Makes you wonder if it would qualify as "TRUE" 3D, doesn't it?
No it doesn't, only the insecure fanboy mind wonders about these things. You already know what Crysis 2 is like though so I'm sure you have some more insider info on why Crysis 2 is supposedly doing 3D the "fake" way and KZ3 does it the "right" way....I think it could be that ugly fanboy in you rearing it's head. @raztad Show me where I try to pass off knowledge about 3D. I mentioned the other day about how Sony is using Stereoscopic 3D ( yes that is the implementation ) when some Sony extremist tried to claim that sony had invented yet another miraculous innovative method of 3D I( without anything to back it up ). I never made any claims, it is people like inveni0 that make embarrassing claims that Sony's method is somehow superior...again without basis... Why are you upset?, is it because I keep calling you people out on your propaganda. Very well, let's have it this way: If you can post a link proving that Sony's method is different to the Stereoscopic 3D currently in use on PC and Blu Ray then I will retract my statement about you and you kin being full of $#!+ I'd like to know what I am a fanboy of, go through my post history, you will see criticism of all consoles and PC as well as PC games who moronically bought MW2. I own many Sony products, including a Sony Blu-Ray, Amp and HDTV....I do not hate Sony....I hate you. I remember all the Sony camp claiming 3D could not be done of 360...Crytek showed them once again who the great developers are in the industry, it's not the 1st party devs, it's the developers who can get the most out of EVERY platform and utilise new tech never before seen on them. Crysis 2= first 3D game on PS3 and 360.
dchalfont You are in full anti-Killzone 3 mode here huh? No one here is even bringing up Killzone 3 but you. Makes me wonder what you are on about. Get off Crytek's dick for a minute. Sheesh I am sure they are good developers but they haven't done dick on consoles yet. Let's wait for the game to release before we anoint them the best developers in the entire universe. Besides all developers make statements like these to pump their own tech up. What do expect them to say? "our tech sucks!" What I find funny is how you bash and talk down what Sony's 1st party developers say and in the same few sentences you praise the hell out of Crytek for doing the same exact thing! Lets call it spades for spades here, although you claim you are unbiased and fair in you critique, it's a classic case of saying one thing and doing another.
"No it doesn't, only the insecure fanboy mind wonders about these things". No it's called scientific method to question the veracity and truth of something that hasn't been verified by independent methods. Especially something that sounds like magic coming from a single source. Only a fanboy would think to take it at face value. Maybe because his ugly fanboy head is rearing in the hope it's a magic bullet. Otherwise your just a sheep being led around by the nose by the propaganda. Ironic. Just taking into Sony's extensive involvement in developing 3D cameras and the software to process it for Hollywood would suggest they have FAR more insight into 3D techniques as a starting point. Certainly more than a small company focused on multi-platform development for a mainly 2D product that magically produces the same quality with little processing overhead. There are many forms of what people are calling 3D. 3D can be done on the 360. It's a question of the quality and type of 3D used. And the effort involved for non-standard implementations. There is a reason Avatar came with a list of compatible TV's you needed to check. And as usual people want to obfuscate the meanings so they can claim inferior methods are the same thing. I remember all the 360 camp claiming how DVD upscaling was just as good as Blu-ray. That somehow 5x LESS information in the SOURCE could be magically inserted from the ether. And of course no one would notice anyway. The last bastion of the fanboy.
There's a difference between stereoscopic 3D and 3D made from a single image. You can find lots of 3D samples on the web where the 3D is created from a single image. But the fact remains that you can not create a stereoscopic 3D image from a single perspective. So no...it's not being a fanboy to question science...unless you're a christian.
which is very interesting because actually the xbox/PS3 are not being stressed that much beyond the original 2D requirements. @dchalfont Why you talk like if you know more than the rest of us about how the actual 3D implementation is? you are not less a fanboy than any fanboy here. @bellow Yeah it sounds like there is some "trick" in place. EDIT: Me upset? where? It was you trying to call other people guesses out w/o knowing anything beyond what is in this article. I still remember an article where you were trying to lecture me about how real 3D was supposed to be impossible on consoles (it happened by "chance" it was a Sony exclusive being retrofitted) and how the performance was meant to drop from 30 fps to 15fps. Doesnt seem strange to you Crytek got a "magic"trick for that not to happen? I'm totally sure you would be saying EXACTLY what invenio0 said if this trick was the basis of KZ3 3D implementation.
I dont think they ever claimed to know more. Is that your other account? IS that why you are taking an honest statement like its a personal attack against you? Sounds to me like they found a way to split the image after the graphics card is done with it. Which isnt so much a trick as it is a smarter way of doing things... Please though feel free to hop between as many of your accounts as you wish explaining how find a more efficient way of doing 3D is some how fake or a trick... Just another clueless Sony gamer...
@^^^ Dunno about what other account you are talking about. Who are you btw? Are you the same seferoth (the pathetic ninty fanboy) that PMed a hate message? "Sounds to me they found a way to split the image after the graphics card is done with it." You dont sound like you know much either. I never claimed to know what trick (magic, workaround call it whatever you like) Crytek is using to have their 3D implementation running. Yes I'm clueless as much as you are. Again, who are you?
"IM A DUDE PLAYING A DUDE, DISGUISED AS ANOTHER DUDE!" I'm sorry, I couldn't help myself. BTW, I'm not that dude. And....I'm already home xD
LOL.. dchalfont is answering using his duplicate account to your comment.. FAILED!! nice job raztad..!!!
Yeah, I'm very intrigued how they manage it! He said they produce the second image out of the first one. So that's cheating sorta..?
Who cares if it works as well as teh other method? My only concern is that it wont work as well and will be a crappy watered down version of 3d if that makes any sense.
Crytek are obviously geniuses. They find ways to do the so called impossible.
'Wanna see how the PS3 version performs.. :)
I read a hands-on (dont remember which one) where they say Crysis 2 3D is not pop out 3D but more like a convex view that seems to go INSIDE the screen, Sounds interesting. Looking forward to it. I'll be playing Crysis 2 in 3D next year, along with KZ3. Dunno which implementation will be more impressive, judging by Jimmy Fallon reaction KZ3 is for a good headstart. BTW, I know Crytek want to favor the xbox and all but it is about time they show some footage of the game running on the PS3. I'm not buying out of faith.
Buy it for the PC...that way you get the best version and it will be in 1080p
Crysis 1 and Warhead weren't even that good. I dont know anyone besides techies who are even looking forward to this game.
Crysis 2 3D will OWN all games.
Yes, including Halo Reach & Gears Of War 3.
I remember in invisible walls they were talking about crysis 2's 3D not working. Is this why its not having an impact? Cause its not nearly as well implemented as KZ3 or something? Or was this an issue that was only at that one time and has since been resolved and taken care of? Im honestly asking here, not trying to be a fanboy at all, please answer these questions if you know that answer. Thanks
does this mean it will not need a 120hz TV? man if that was the case 3D TV sales are going to suffer if these guys just showed you don't need one, at least that's what I am hoping :)
With Nvidias use of 3D ( as PC games are not locked to a set frame rate ) you can use 3D without a 120hz monitor or TV. It simply halves the frame rates and duplicates the scene from different angles, so a 60hz game would be 30hz per eye. They recommend 120hz as 60 hz per eye is smoother, but it is not a requirement.
said that he could not notice the 3d effects when they demoed the game at the Pre E3 Judge Panel Event. Apparently, he asked other game 'enthusiasts' journalist if they were seeing it and they responded by the negative. There must be a problem with it then.
I think if it could be done as well as they say, why haven't we seen tons of it. I'm not saying it does not work, i'm not saying it does. But i'll wait. I know i'll play crysis2 either way, either PC OR PS3 or 360, as i have all of them. Yes dchalfont, crysis stands alone in the island jungle scene as farcry did before it. It was kind of open world. But i did expect more tbh. I actually think it would have been a better game without the nano suit. I also think more futuristic weapons would have suited crysis, a lightshow in the jungle sts.
Magic FTW!!!! love Crytek!!!
Unlike Killzone 3, Crysis 2 uses a "concave 3D" effect, simulating the HUD inside the television so that objects do not appear to come out of the screen. But when we asked if Crysis 2 offered a better 3D experience than Killzone 3, Yerli said: "I think it's a more pleasing experience. People say it's much more pleasing, much easier on the eye, and it has more depth." Yerli added that he was refused entry to see Killzone 3 at E310. "I haven't seen Killzone, to be honest. I wish I would see it, but they won't let me see it!"
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