Sony: It Feels Like [2006 Blu-ray] All Over Again With 3D Skepticism

When the PS3 launched back in 2006, many held strong skepticism on whether the console would survive. The unrest was echoed throughout the industry as journalists would write articles on ‘why PS3 will fail’, and ‘why blu-ray was a bad choice’.

Four years later, and that sound has been banned. No more do we see articles predicting the PS3’s death, or even that of Blu-ray. That’s because Blu-ray won the HD war over HD-DVD and the PS3 has seen substantial growth, with a redesigned console and cheaper price.

Now, Sony’s leading the innovation and adoption path once more with 3D, and according to Sony’s Worldwide Studios VP Scott Rohde, it feels like [Blu-ray] days all over again.

[dangert12]

3d will take over, eventually the difference with the blu-ray argument was that we have only had to upgraded from dvd once and it took a while but its near enough done,
but with tv's this gen brought us the hd tv's and some still cost alot today 3d tv's cost more,but sony said there willing to wait which is good on them because if they hold it up and keep pushing how they are now people will support it when its affordable because there is good content on offer there already or shell i say coming gt5 killzone 3d blu ray is on the way yes?

if you disagree please let me know why

[Cloudberry]

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It would take a while for 3D gaming and / or TVs in full adoption.

But even though on a different scale with Playstation, Nintendo 3DS it self would off for a great start, in my opinion.

Offering a glass-less 3D games on their handheld + 3D games on consoles & PCs, love it or hate it, 3D is here to stay.

[Jamie Foxx]

the price is mainstream (for both tv and glasses)

and 3D will receive an even higher adoption rate by the masses when 3D is glasses free

until then its an expensive gimmick

[raztad]

@^^^

I agree about the price thing but 3D GIMMICK? Jimmy Fallon beg to differ:

http://www.latenightwithjim...

I would say THAT reaction is not due to a gimmick.

BTW people are overblowing the glasses wearing stuff. It would be better not to have to use them but they look ok to me.

@bellow

"The 3DS already manages glasses-free 3D and Sony's version will look outdated by comparison. "

That is reaching it. 3DS sports a flawed tech that barely can be used at a specific angle in order to perceive the 3D effect, and the screen needs to be even smaller than previuos DS models. This "solution" is totally not working for a home TV set.

[thor]

Yeah 3D really needs to be glasses free to gain mainstream adoption.

A surprising number of people need to wear glasses in order to see the TV clearly - these are all barred from watching in 3D without ludicrously expensive prescription 3D glasses.

The 3DS already manages glasses-free 3D and Sony's version will look outdated by comparison.

Also watching 3D for a long time with glasses can give some people headaches.

[StanLee]

True. Blu rays success only came when the price of blu ray players were more consumer friendly and the price of PS3s were also reduced drastically. It seems they also forgot that part.

[coolfool]

"A surprising number of people need to wear glasses in order to see the TV clearly - these are all barred from watching in 3D without ludicrously expensive prescription 3D glasses."

I completely disagree with that.

This is completely wrong, if it was true then you can guarantee that the manufacturers would be working on a way around it because otherwise it would be one huge missed demographic.

My colleague at work has just bought a 3d tv and he wears glasses. He said that it was perfectly fine to fit the 3d glasses over his normal ones. The only thing he did say was that it is a tiny bit less comfortable over a period of time.

[snp]

I wear prescription glasses and own a 3dtv. The 3d glasses fit fine over the prescription glasses - they are designed to actually.

Agree glasses-less 3dtv is a better idea, but since the 3d tech adds negligible cost to a tv's production cost and auto-stereoscopic tv is years away, the options are 1)hostilely scow at 3d glasses tv for a half decade (on principle?), or 2)enjoy it for what it is while it is (to the extent that you can or want to get in on it) and when and the time is right for a natural evolution/succession to auto-stereoscopic, get in on that should you wish.

In my case i needed a new tv anyway (have done for a while; couldn't hold off for another five years), and this one just happened to be a 3dtv (it was the one in my price range, and with the feature set and value added redemption bonuses i wanted regardless of the 3d). I'm expecting it'll probably buy me five years or so till i'll upgrade to an Oled, preferably auto-stereoscopic 3d, tv of some kind (or maybe some kind of hybrid tv/computer or whatever it'll be by then.)

Don't mean to sound smarmy, but i get the feeling people aren't down on 3d so much because there's any rational reason to be (it's optional; what reason could there be?), but rather because it's puts them in an inward quandary - "is this something i'm not going to be in on. And if i get in now, i'll miss out on the next step when that..." etc etc..

Myself, i love visual stuff. The second flat screen starts to claw back to the quality (contrast and colour accuracy) of crt from yesteryear, i'm in. Will eat bread and drink water for a year, if i have to.

[talltony]

Here is the future and why I am not on the 3d bandwagon right now. The future is 3d without glasses.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

the best part is that it will be out in less than 2 years.

[snp]

the best part is that it will be out in less than 2 years.
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Nothing i've come across from even the most optimistic co's i've seen talk about it has mentioned anything like that sort of time frame. Long long way before the myriad of tech problems are worked out first off, let alone what sort of format the tech will take (OLED will be it's best chance, but that's still a year and a half/two years from it's, probably expensive, introductory screens), and then they've gotta try and work out how to make it feasible as an, even expensive, mass market product.

To be less than two years away the tech would have to be stable right now, basically, and all the various question marks regarding implementing it would need to be sorted out by the end of this year.

Hey, i'd love for you to be right, but honestly, i think you're a couple of years ahead of the truth (point of fact, there's been little progress on the screens in the nearly six months since CES - the couple of big trade shows since have been running identical models).

[talltony]

In fact 12 to 18 months time to launch in the consumer market. Listen to the interview.

http://m.youtube.com/index?...

Every time I post this I get disagrees and dnt know why.

[rockleex]

"and the price of PS3s were also reduced drastically."

Yea, because we all know 3DTVs will never drop in price. -_-"

[wiggles]

Look at our entertainment section as a whole...all we ever talk about is how we want to immerse ourselves in the situation and how we want to really "be there."

That is a key word in every good video game review...that we want to feel as if we are apart of it...how do we do this?? By adding a third dimension..

3D is the obvious next step...yes it's expensive as hell, but this article nails it....It's going to stay...

And it's clearer then Blu-ray that it will stay...with Blu-ray only Sony endorsed it....

Now Sony and Nintendo are endorsing 3D, it may be expensive right now; but it's here to stay..

[Kleptic]

not sure what you mean with BD and 'only Sony endorsed it'...rephrase that...they were the only console manufacturer to use it...but I assure you they had backing from a majority of the electronic and entertainment companies...

as always...this is simple...its only cost...it won't be popular until its affordable...Not many of us are that interested in buying another HDTV right now, or at least a top tier one with 3D features...as this 3D stuff comes out, 'normal' HD televisions will plummet in price...so if anything, the onslaught of 3D will simply increase HD and BD adoption...as those things are now falling to price points where almost anyone can afford them...

[Silver360]

we get really involved in a game when the game play and story grabs our imagination. technology helps but it all about how much interest a game has from you. 3d won't make games better avatar the game is still crap in 3d.

[Pistolero]

to be accurate though even bluray hasn't overtaken dvd....i go into walmart or most other stores and the bluray section is a fraction of the size of the dvd section.

3d actually has potential in my opinion...i think it could be an exciting technology in a few years....but right now and for the immediate future only a small number of people will be able to use it.

[jneul]

it took years for dvd to overtake vhs as well, blu-ray is getting adopted faster than what dvd did at first

[MNicholas]

until hybrid OLED TVs that don't require glasses become available.

However it will do well with early adopters and that's who the manufacturers are aiming for.

When introducing a new technology you always start at the top.

[synce]

3D is not blu-ray. 3D is a fad (smell-o-vision, anyone?) I wouldn't watch movies in 3D even if the upgrade was free. If anything I feel sorry for the people wasting their money on the equipment.

[EvilBlackCat]

Sony: It Feels Like [2006 Blu-ray] All Over Again With 3D Skepticism

WELL ITS DIFFERENT because 3D is an option and NOT NECESSARY to watch movies or play video games.

You can buy a 3d capable tv and enjoy it without using glasses but NO, sony wants you to buy their tv's and glasses. A 3dtv that dont need 3d glasses is less risky than those sony is hyping.

Im not selling my recent 3 Samsung HDTV's screen for just getting a 3dtv because sony says is cool.

How much for a 26+ inches 3d capable tv?

Blu-Ray is media storage

3dTV is a damn tv that looks cool but 3d is not necessary or mandatory to enjoy a game or watch a movie.

ITS WAAAAAAAAYYYYYY different SONY!

[saint_john_paul_ii]

just to let you know, Sony isnt the only company on board on making 3D mainstream. Samsung,Panasonic,LG,RCA,etc. are all on board. all companies will eventually integrate HDTVs with 3d capabilities.

i now have a computer with 3d capabilities right now, and its crazy.

[Inside_out]

I think 3D with glasses is already on the way out. The people have spoken and the market will adjust. Nobody wants to pay $150 for glasses, let alone $2500-3000 for a little 3D TV. You can find 52" 2D variety at a cost of $1000.

This company ( TCL ) has the right idea...check out the video. This vid is 5 months old. Watch how they ( big TV manufacturers ) try and buy this tech and bury it. Remember how Sony, LG, Sharp, samsung...all of them pleaded guilty to fixing the price of LCD's. 3D is no different. They should be investigated again. This time fine each company one billion dollars. That MIGHT wake them crooks up.

BTW...Blu-ray has bee ALLOWED to succeed. DVD's cost 15-17 cents each. A DVD movie should cost a fraction of the price of blu-ray. Sony's stock is down 8% this year, must be because they are doing so well and have a great plan for the future...NOT

[snp]

I doubt people will pay $150 for glasses for much longer, but i also doubt they'll need to. Multiple sets already come with all major brands, and within a year they'll probably cost next to nothing.

Comparing different tv ranges is a bit silly. Like for like - same gen/specs/brand model 3d versus non-3d - for the most part the difference is fairly small. The reason being that the tech is very cheap and easy to implement (frankly there's more effort and cost in implementing internet tv and various other features).

The largest expense in the non Plasma 3dtv's is in the production of the LED technology (particularly in local dimming models). Most of the markup versus last gen is pretty much identical to 2008-2009 price differences at time of introduction (there is a mark up, and 'early adaptor' gouging, but there is some of that every year with new models of every product, 3d or non-3d).

I've seen that tech. I've also read about it. It has appalling viewing angles. Needs - atm - specially designed demos/footage to not expose an array of visual flaws, and requires viewers also to stand/sit in a 'sweet spot' in terms of distance to the screen - and to work properly will require layers of screen tech.

Auto-stereoscopic is definitely the future. But it's not going to be buried for years because of some wicked conspiracy. It's simply, plain vanilla, not going to be ready for years on large screen tv's (in much the same way that OLED has been demoed for years but was $ infeasible, and also had problems with life expectancy that have literally taken a half decade to iron out - it's looking like finally showing in 2012 on a decent dimension tv's/monitors (and it was far far more advanced and looking ready for prime time years ago than auto-stereoscopic is now).

[Biggest]

You can walk into any major retailer and get a 3DTV for half of what you think they cost, cez (you crazy troll, you!). It's too bad that TCL can't find a way to make their technology matter. You seem to be the only person actively pushing it. If it is worthwhile, Sony will probably find a way to join them. Thank you for allowing BluRay to succeed. It rocks. You are smarter than Sony. I heard you were the 2nd richest man in the world. Congratulations. Your genius is astounding.

[MNicholas]

It's a lenticular overlay on a regular TV.

This has the problem of limited viewing angle.

The other problem with TCL's 3D is that it cuts the horizontal resolution in half. So a 1080P (1920x1080) image becomes 960x1080.

I'm not a fan of glasses 3D either. Too many compromises.

However, a better glasses free 3D technology is coming. You only have to look at the patents out there.

[NYC_Gamer]

the movie industry will be one of the main reasons why 3Dtv is successful

[Omega4]

There's a huge difference between bluray and 3D. Either bluray or hddvd would have become standard it was necessary for HD content. So bluray was like saying "would HD ever takeover" and obviously it would.

3D on the other won't effect everything like HD so it won't become as mainstream, does anyone really see people searching for their 3D glasses when the news is on or they are about to watch some soap or talkshow? I doubt it. 3D without glasses is the only way it will EVER become big, because just remember 3D with glasses has been around for years.

Edit
Im not referring to games at all I'm talking about 3D in general, no one will buy a 3DTV is they can get a HDTV for cheaper especially if the only benefit will be playing games and movies in 3D instead of regular TV as well

[Strange_Evil]

Why does it matter to you? It's a FREE feature and it's an OPTIONAL feature. Those 2 words itself bring any criticism to an end. And besides hence onwards EVERY new TV which comes out will support 3D so it's a welcome addition for anyone who buys a new TV now..

And stop with the '3D is expensive, wearing glasses is clumsy'. Firstly people should leave out the misconception that 3D is expensive cause it's frankly not. You get decent 42" 3DTV from Samsung for 1000£ which is like 1500$. I remember buying my Plasma 4 years back for 2500$. So a 1500-2000$ introduction price for a new technology is phenomenal especially since HDTVs retailed for 5000$ when they were introduced.

Also don't give me the crap about wearing glasses. I have seen people wearing glasses all the time and they don't whine and bitch about it. And besides, my family never sits besides me while I play a shooter or any other game, so why the hell would they do that if I play games in 3D. And wait a few months, those glasses price will come crashing down.

The only reason I can think of people whining is cause 'the other' console can't do it. If this was embraced by MS and Sony alike, no one would be bitching about it right now. I for 1 am looking forward to buying a 3DTV soon to replace my 4 year old Plasma and KZ3 pushed me off the edge as well to buy it.

Stop hatin, it's not mandatory, you can always game in 2D if you like. The new 3DTVs are equally capable as HDTVs.

EDIT @OMEGA: Thats the point, you don't see the future which Sony or Samsung or Panasonic or any other 3D supporting company see's. I bet my PS3 that in a years time, EVERY TV sold in the market will support 3D out of the box. It's like the SDTV to HDTV phase. People cared less at the time of adoption that they got a HDTV since they were still viewing SD pic on it, but as time went on, you could only buy HDTVs... It's called EVOLUTION. It's a feature you will get even if you like it or not. It's always great to have more stuff even though you don't use it.

[Cloudberry]

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I never ever think that Jimmy / whoever gonna put the 3D glasses is clumsy.

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The 3D glasses design is cool, in my opinion.

[wiggles]

It's true that 3D with glasses turns off many consumers...but do you honesty think that we will need glasses forever??

Of course not! Look at the 3Ds they have already figured it out for a small screen...it's only a matter of time before the technology becomes available to project a 3D image on a bigger screen.

Even think of the color TV comparison...I doubt when the black & white TV was created people were like oh it won't go mainstream because you can't see color..

You can't judge the future of a product just because it has limitations in the current time, as it's clear that improvements will be made....

Especially being Sony, Nintendo, and Panasonic clearly are endorsing 3D... Sony was able to make Blu-ray the standard by itself...there is no doubt these three giants can make 3D standard

[USEYOURFIST]

2015 is the general feeling for glassless free 3d tvs and is a FACT that at the moment active shutter provides the best xperience over polarized and the current glassless tech.

+ to people saying about the 3ds making sony look outdated nintendo themselves said the tech wouldnt work on a bigger screen

o and if you wear glasses you can still watch 3D as the shutter glasses have adjustable bridges for that reason, bloody stealth fanboys (not u wiggles) are out in force against 3D

[R_aVe_N]

Yes, because the MILLIONS of people that go and watch 3D movies every week go hand and hand with a fanboy on N4G. It is called entertainment for a reason. After all that is what gaming and movies are in the end. Do people really think there are only 1 kind of glasses out there for 3D. All you have to do is find the one you like. It is that simple! I am guessing you can't afford a 3D setup by the way you talk.

[Hacker]

Can't wait to play Crysis 2 3D on ps3 lol.

[cobraagent]

I believe it is safe to say that 3D is here to stay.

[Hacker]

Microsoft are working on 3D without the need for glasses after all they r the innovators just take a look at Kinect now thats INNOVATION right there. Not no rip-off like others do lol.

[PirosThe4th]

/s?

[redsquad]

I disagreed, just in case you're NOT being sarcastic...

[jneul]

x360 is nt powerful enough for that, sorry, maybe if they make a more powerful console

[Michael-Jackson]

Eyetoy/PSeye was released, when?

[TheBreezyBB]

But this time around with No competition for 3D, Every major TV manufacturer is planing to release one in the upcoming months.

It all goes down to, for how much?!!

[Nihilism]

Ummm, a few problems with that.

There are no disadvantages to 1080p...none what so ever, it makes images clearer, the increased disk size of Blu-Rayallows for higher bit rates and uncompressed audio...

3d causes migraines and is problematic for people that already wear glasses or people that have any kind of sight problems. Mainstream 3D is a new thing, the long term affects of using 3D will not be known for some time, but given the ghosting etc, I imagine this early use of it could have long term health effects.

If a new disk format with a 2560x1600 standard came out and people dissed it, then it would be the same as the Blu-Ray doubt, but as for 3d, there are reasons not to want it. Why degrade visual fidelity or clarity due to ghosting?, I can see reason to not want to use 3d, blu ray has no negatives over dvd.

[Nihilism]

@Disagrees

I'm sorry for being objective and rational, and also for calling out this idiotic comparison.

I'll try to be more of a fanboy next time.

*Clears thoat*

Move is going to be awesome, 3D has NO negatives whatsoever, the pricepoint is right, there are no negative effects at all, PS3- the only TrueHD console! We as gamers should consider ourselves lucky that Sony has revolutionised gaming by introducing Motion control ( yep, never been done before ) and 3D ( also a Sony invention )

Play beyond!

[Dread]

stick to the line brother. Remember the sony extremists cannot accept any negative comments, even if reasonable, about Sony. Sony is king, Sony is the best, Sony never errs... keep the mantra going or you will loose any credibility in N4G.

[el zorro]

Right on man, Sony4life! (I just got that tatoo btw) Tomorrow they are giving me a tour of corporate headquarters for being such a loyal subject (or was that only my dream last night? hmm..) I'm glad that you realized that the PS3 has no negatives whatsoever and that every other gaming platform sucks.

Anyway, Play Beyond!

lol

[Nihilism]

Speaking of extremists.

I would like 1 of the sony fans here...I only need one. To tell me one thing that Blu ray does that HD-DVD did not...and no 3D is not a Blu-Ray exclusive feature.

I own 2 Blu-Ray players ( one of them Sony ) and a Sony HDTV and Sony Amp...again, being objective...you wouldn't know what that is though.

http://img97.imageshack.us/...

Blu-Ray being the format that was adopted came down to marketing, not features, but marketing, it won out because it was adopted by warner brothers...because of marketing.

If HD-DVD had won the format war...we would be watching HD-DVD's on our HDTV's in exactly the same quality as Blu ray movies are now...

So tell me what sony has done to revolutionise gaming this gen...the way I see it, the only ones taking risks and innovating is Nintendo...and once again being objective ( I know it's a hard concept ) I sold my Wii because I hated the games

How is that I sold my Wii yet still praise Nintendo...could it be that I am the only person on this site who is not a fanboy?

Prove me right with no response and some disagrees...

[snp]

Can name you two things - 1)disk capacity (which potentially has a flow on effect to compression (video quality) and quality/variety of audio formats available, as well as space available for extras), and 2)the larger programming potential of Java for interactivity.

I do agree that ultimately it came down to market forces, though. But i wouldn't call those 'marketing' alone as such. One of those biggest market forces was that you had basically an entire electronics industry on the BD camps side, versus one renegade company - Toshiba - frankly, acting petulantly, rushing out the gate to collect the tech royalty spoils, on the other side.

[JOHN_DOH]

SONY always pushes new technology. Whether you like them or not you can't deny that. SPDIF audio, hdmi, 1080p, blu-ray, oled, etc. They may not have invented all of them but they always try to advance tech which is a good thing.

[saint_john_paul_ii]

HD-DVD doesnt do 3d. and it didnt do 1080p. only 1080i..

[ElementX]

I think there's a huge difference between the launch of Bluray and 3DTV. First of all, when Bluray players were released, people already had DVD players for years, it was something that was obviously dated technology. With 3DTV, you have people just starting to adopt HDTV, mostly within the past 2-3 years, their televisions are still "new". Forking over $1800 for a 46" Samsung 120hz, 1080p at Best Buy 18 months ago isn't that far in the past. Would I want to shell out another $2000 for a new TV a year or two later? No! I must say though, that the demo at Best Buy was mind blowing.

[OSU_Gamer]

I think BluRay was a lot more beneficial for the industry and the advancement of gaming than 3D is now. At one time BluRay, or at least more storage capability was a necessity, especially with the onset of High Definition. 3D is an unnecessary gimmick that already failed.

Because it is unnecessary, if you have to buy a new TV and still wear glasses, it is not going to work. Once glasses are eliminated, it becomes less of a gimmick and more of a necessary option. That's when I really think it will take off.

[USEYOURFIST]

i agree glassless 3D is when it will hit mainstream but i dont want to wait 5/6 years for that to happen before playing in 3D i recon they should give all us ps3 owners a discount on the new bravias lol

[OSU_Gamer]

that would be cool

You know the tech is on its way, but as a consumer I'm not going to be happy buying another new TV when I just bought an expensive flat screen a year ago and then have to wear glasses...and then buy another set when they eliminate those glasses. I may be making the wrong assumption, but I would think that many PS3 owners like me already have a flat screen.

Bubbles.

[barakiu]

Sony President Ryoji Chubachi projected that its Blu-ray Disc format would garner 50 percent of DVD market share by the end of 2008.

http://forums.gametrailers....

[Dread]

has that happened. I still see DVD everywhere..

I remember that by 2004 VHS was completly gone..Its been five years since Bluray and DVDs are still very common. I thought that people here keep saying that blueray has taken over bu i just dont c that it has happened yet.

[mcgrawgamer]

3D is being met with skepticism because it poses a lot of issues:
Price
as a glasses wearer long gaming sessions or movie marathons with a 2nd pair of 3D glasses over my current specs will not be comfortable. I can barely stand em for the 1 to 3 hours I have em on in the movie theater.
motion sickness for some
migraine headaches for others.

Bluray's only obstacle was HD-DVD

[zorglub]

And Kinect feels like HDDVD all over again.

[HighTreason]

After watching Jimmy Fallon get Killzown3D this morning, I'm getting a 3DTV for my new place.

You have to understand that soon people won't be standing at the electronics store going: "Hmm, shall I get a regular HDTV or shall I go for a 3DTV"

Because 3D will be forced into every TV soon, the only choice you will have is whether you make use of the technology or not. But regardless, you WILL own a 3DTV if you're planning on buying a new TV in the next couple of years.

Sony knows this and they will be at the forefront of it all.

It's called planning ahead, looking into the future.

[Cherchez La Ghost]

Blu won by the decision of Warner Bros. Executive. This was just a war between disc storage format. Now people are still just converting over to HDTV and Blu. One major factor will be the health issuses of watching 3D. How many people will be affected by this? Seisures, headaches and other issues will happend. And then there is the price. Blu movies are now coming down to reasonable prices. One thing that made a lot of sense at Nintendo's confrence was wearing glasses. And I do believe one day we'll have 3D HDTV's witout the use of glasses. I just dropped $3000 on my 240hz Samsung. I'll wait another year before I'll upgrade again.

[stuna1]

Outside of people who haven't bought a true 3d enabled bravia tv, sony has stated that potentially any tv that is able to achieve 120hz and, above is 3d capable with the 3d starter kit. Which is like a 3d tuner box (cable box) that will be inexpensive to purchase. The only difference with the bravia tv's is that they have a built in 3d chip preinstalled as opposed to the 3d starter box.

[OGharryjoysticks]

I'm not Scott Rohde, but I've been saying the same thing he says. All the talk about how 3D isn't needed or how it will fail is foolish and will not stop it from becoming the standard. Everybody said HD wasn't needed and it isn't...look at the Wii for example. Or how everybody said Blu-ray isn't needed and it isn't...look at your 3 disc Xbox version of FFXIII. But 3D is going to come down in price eventually and everybody will buy one. And sooner or later that's all they are going to sell similar to how SDTV's have been phased out.

[bjornbear]

but nonetheless, i believe it will pick up regardless.

[LiquifiedArt]

Why did sony choose the Glasses route, rather then the 3D Screen route?

If it was for Profit, then I feel it was a stupid decision. Anyone with imparied vision in 1 of their eyes is not going to be able to use the device and anyone who needs normal glasses will be uncomfortable when wearing 2 pairs of glasses.

It just seems like a slew of negatives, so whats the positive? Is the quality of 3D better with glasses as compared to a screen? If it was screen based, why would the ps3 even need to output 3D at all? Wouldn't the TV just take care of it?

Any answers would be appreciated. ty

[Plague-Doctor27]

It's cause the 3D screen route won't work on large screens yet, though they are working on that technology. Even Nintendo said the 3DS wouldn't work if it was larger. And yes, the quality of 3D, as of now, is better with the active shutter glasses.

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

''Why did sony choose the Glasses route, rather then the 3D Screen route? ''

You forget the 3DTV's without Glasses.

Because is more cheaper for the Consumer compared to the 3DTV's to use without glasses.

The 3DTVs to use with Glasses are around $2000
The 3DTV's to use without glasses $12000 - $20000+

Make sense Sony is pushing more the 3DTV's with Glasses.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

Sony already said from a research company 1 million 3dtv's this year 5 million the next. If anyone noticed much more movies in theaters are coming out in 3D version, blu-ray 3D movies have increased and more tv companies are making 3D tvs its eventually going to come

[BeaArthur]

I'm not interested in 3D until I don't have to wear the glasses and the price comes down. Who knows, maybe 3D will catch on like Blu-ray did. I know this, I have never bought another DVD since I watched my first Blu-ray.

[barakiu]

@ the last line of your comment.

Since I got a PC in 2001 i bought only a few more DVDs at first, but for the most part it was strictly torrents, other peer to peer services, and just downloads in general.

since things like youtube went mainstream, i hardly download movies and it's streaming for me.

Buying BluRays, DVDs, and even Digital Downloads are not for me. Once you go free, why go back?

Why piracy will never die – people think it’s fine
http://tech.blorge.com/Stru...

The end of TV (as we know it)
http://forums.gametrailers....
[links galore]

from an article, linked from the thread linked above^
another person that agrees with me said,
"I no longer need a TV -- much less a cable bill -- because of what the internet has to offer."

[barakiu]

http://www.dailytech.com/On...

[Xfanboy]

PS3 & PC love 3d (way cheaper on PC) But MS noy so much...

[knightdarkbox]

3D is a gimmick. Nothing more.

Enjoy spending thousands of dollars to buy 3D TVs when I can save thousands of dollars and have just as much fun without playing in 3D crap.

[dustgavin]

That is your opinion but I have experienced 3d for myself and it puts the experience on a whole new level. Have fun living in the past!

[Xfanboy]

PS3 & PC love 3d (way cheaper on PC) But MS noy so much...

But why does Sony talk like they are the one pushing this tech??

Samsung will probably sell the most tvs...

[jaosobno]

Few days ago, I've seen Panasonic 3D plazma. There was a guy presenting it and he invited me to try out the TV with glasses.

I was blown away! There was this first person rafting scene, and it was incredibly intense experience in 3D. I also saw few other demos and I have to say that each one was incredible in its own way.

3D is happening now. I agree that it would be a much more pleasant experience without glasses, but you stop noticing them after few minutes.

Sony pulled off a great move by offering such a strong 3D support. With that, they once again confirmed their status as a company that takes risks and brings new tech standards to the industry. Companies like microsoft, which seems to be a slow learner after their HD DVD fiasco could, instead of bashing the 3D (like they did with blu ray) say "it's an interesting tech, we will look into it". Unfortunatelly, their corporate pride prevents them from doing so. For them, it's easier to spit on something than actually make an effort of studying it - a mistake they made more than once.

So, regardless of what doubters say, 3D is a next big step in TV technology after going HD. HD also had a slow start, but now more than 62% of US homes are HD.

[Nihilism]

"Sony pulled off a great move by offering such a strong 3D support"

There have been 3D Blu-Rays out before Sony even had a 3D TV on the market. James Cameron has done more for 3D than Sony.

[dustgavin]

Dude, you need to get over your 3D/Sony hate. I have read comments on here about you bashing the technology more than anyone else. If you hate 3D so much then stay out of the articles that relate to it.

[jaosobno]

As you already quoted, I said that sony offered strong 3D support, not that they pushed first 3D blu ray/invented the whole thing themselves. I am well aware that movies such as Avatar have done a lot to popularize 3D technology.

But, when it comes to console HD gaming sony is the only one doing it now. I have no doubt that microsoft will, in the end, make a half assed attempt at 3D (since they always copy/paste what others do).

[barakiu]

That statistic is probably off by a large margin.
It probably came from a survey conducted by a research group of a very small group of people (usually 1,000).
Most of these similar studies are based on surveys, which I doubt very much are very accurate.

I suspect 25% is a more likely number domestically(including houses with more than one HDTV), and with worldwide yielding a much lower percentage.

[Jdoki]

I don't understand the scepticism. For years people have wanted to be more immersed in gaming - and when it comes along all of a sudden it's a bad thing!?!

When the PS3 launched (and to a degree the 360) the high price that the early adopters pay helps to offset the R&D and drive down manufacturing costs.

Same with Blu-Ray - until disks started selling in high numbers the price of manufacture and other associated costs couldn't come down.

Now we have the same for 3D. Sony / Samsung etc are charging a premium for a fairly cheap feature to add to new TV's. This is offsetting R&D and other costs, and eventually it'll allow 3D to hit mainstream consumers at a sweeter price point.

[jalen247]

Sony has good vision for where technology will go.

I wouldn't bet against Sony because they are usually right.

[0oAngeluso0]

As the article suggests. However, they are really the only ones. Most the other companies are waiting to see what happens. I know it's just an "Option" but I think it's going to be an option most people wont take or make. Even though regular Television can be bad for your health, there is actually 20+% of the population that physically cannot view 3-D. I know my mother has only one eye from an accident as a child and myself personally I have gotten major headaches when I've tried to watch 3-D movies. So it's an option I'm definitely not going in for.

A clear, HD picture or movie is something that is really accessory free, pop in a Blu Ray and watch. 3-D is something totally different IMHO. The glasses do kill it a bit for me as well, but I don't see parents letting there kids play 3-D games and watch 3-D movies for hours on end. I know some parents who don't let there kids play games or watch movies as it is with standard televisions.

I also don't see a whole lot of baby boomers or elderly people being interested. Mostly it's going to be the techies, the ones that buy new tech right away. When you look at the fact that HDTV has been around since the 1980's and was viable in the 1990's and yet here in 2010 there is only a 59% saturation, even with the lower prices, you can see the uphill battle 3-D is probably going to have.

I'll stick to HDTV and Blu Ray, which I both love, 3-D is a pass for me personally both for movies and gaming.

All that being said, I don't hate it, I just think it's a bit of a fad that comes and goes. As long as there it's always just the option and not forced on people I'm okay with it succeeding or failing.

[DA_SHREDDER]

I love the way fanboys leave out the fact that there are tv's that dont require you to wear glasses. LOL. Look at the hate army, they are so full of jealousy and envy. I didn't know how pathetic they were till they finally slowed down and started running out of ideas to hype about. Oh, poor little fanboys.

Oh and to those that are bitchin about the price, just rent one from rent a center and check it out for yourself. So many things you can do to play these games in 3-d but yall just a bunch of haterz anyways, im gonna stop helping you think for yourselves.

[NYC_Gamer]

many 360 fans hate on 3D only because sony is pushing the tech real hard..

[0oAngeluso0]

Sure Sony is pushing the tech, but the 360 can run 3-D as well. I mean Sony isn't just pushing 3-D on it's console, it's there movies too. I seriously doubt a Nintendo or Microsoft fan are going to be mad because Sony is pushing a option to something.
Sony has billions invested in it, so of course they are going to push it. I am not sure how much of a market there is going to be for 3-D right now, I personally think this push is really trying to set them up for their next console years and years from now. It's kind of the way the original Xbox had games in HD, setting up the future really. Though from a technical standpoint like I said HD is something pretty much we can all enjoy.

I think Sony fans just try to look for gas to fuel the flames in every Sony related article. Seriously, 3-D isn't that big of a deal. It means very little to the average person and I doubt 360 fans really care either way. Most people I know are "Meh" about it. Don't really effect them one way or the other.

[DA_SHREDDER]

@Angelus.

You obviously haven't seen Jimmy Fallon's reaction while he was playing killzone 3 in 3-D have you? I think he shitted on himself a little bit.

[iliimaster]

glasses? so what u guys are acting like its those red and blue cheapy glasses... i seen my blody valentine in 3d with clear glasses, not those red and blue ones... i did not have a problem with it at all... and it was amazing... if i had the money right now id get one in a heartbeat.. but i already have a 52 " lcd samsung 120HRTZ framerate..... and a 56"dlp 1080p so im good as far as gaming goes but man id love to have one

[tiamat5]

I don't get the Sony hate sometimes. Isn't it possible that Sony knows what they are doing? They have had two very successful consoles and have been making televisions for years. Don't you think that qualifies as experience? But despite Sony's new ideas bearing fruit everytime they have a new idea it is immediately scorned. You would think people would start trusting them more but instead they do the opposite and trust Mircosoft with there bad ideas more. HDDVD, dead in the water. Zune, barely brought, Ipod better. Xbox, a barely functioning console that even the game developers hated. Xbox 360 a RROD, disk destroying mess. Now, the Kinect, a glitchy,laggy uninspired piece of hardware where you make unnatural movements and is mostly praised by paid celebrities and Mircosoft cronies and tools. And everytime you get screwed you run out and buy another new piece of Mircosoft tech before even waiting to see if it is any good. I don't get it and don't want it.

[ULTIMATE_REVENGE]

3D sucks, company's are only pushing this tech because of the current economical crisis.

This tech was ready about 2 years ago.

[N4OGs]

The 3ds will sell a ton getting 3D in the minds of the 120+ million casuals out there so that they are like omg if 3d is cool on 3ds i need to try out 3d with a tv. Tech geeks, hardcore gamers, and people with money will have a 3Dtv and buy it as well.

So now we got 3D starting from the most nuub casual consumers and from the most hardcore consumers buying into it and eventually they will come together so that the haters and cheap people can get it to.

Unless you seen Toy story in real 3d or avatar, or killzone 3 etc then you need to stop complaining because they look awesome. Just because you cant afford it. Dont mean crap. It means shut your mouth and let the people who can afford it buy it so the tech advance and the price goes down so u get it quicker. I'm tired of no money nuuubs trying to stop progress.

If you guys had your way all consoles would of been SD,CD disc format, and no online. You people need to just be quiet because you have been wrong about the ps3 this whole gen so what makes you think you are right now?

[tiamat5]

Yes Disney, Pixar and Dreamworks, the people who made Avatar. You here that? 3D sucks. So you automatically must return the hundreds of millions of dollars you made when you forced all those people into the cinemas and tortured them into having fun .Shame on you people.How dare you Sony try to get profit on something that is popular. You should listen to your friend Mircosoft who wants Sony and Nintendo to curl up and die and will say or do anything to make it happen. Sony I am disappointed in you. You should know better

[My_Outer_Heaven]

microsoft thought blu-ray wud fail and HD DVD wud triumpth..

but it was the other way around..

maybe the same thing will happen with 3D.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Good comparison. When I read Microsoft's doubt on 3D article yesterday I felt the same way.

[rezzah]

Non of this matters, when the time is right Sony will Rule with 3D innovations in their gaming platforms. They will overcome all. Well their only true opponent is Nintendo, MS is just a thorn in their ass.