Of the 1.5 million Blu-ray players sold in the U.S., 1.4 million are PS3s, according to the Digital Entertainment Group, which promotes both formats.
http://news.com.com/2300-10... This chart shows that stand HD DVD alones are out selling Blu Ray 3 to 1. The PS3 Blu Ray feature is boosting Blu Ray to the front so it would seem Blu Ray is leading buy a mile right now.
If like most people, you do a search on the web before you buy any expensive piece of hardware, you'll find out that if you're looking for the best BluRay player, it's still the PS3!!! No fanboyism at all. All the main web sites reviewing BluRay players still give the highest rating to the PS3 (And trust me, those sites could not care less about gaming!). So let me guess... After all that, you would still buy a more expensive standalone player, instead of buying one that is highly rated as a player, but can also play games, surf the web, store all your pictures, movies and so on. Well, not me : ) Turn this around if you will!!! If Toshiba would come out with a HDDVD player that would be the cheapest but the best rated by independant web sites, and it would allow you to surf the web, play games, store your pictures and movies, would you not count it because it can play games??????? I don't think so. In fact, the same article claim that Target is still selling HDDVD players because it is selling the HDDVD addon for the 360. So, a player is player my friend. If fact, if HDDVD is such a great product, why aren't those HDDVD 360 addons selling like hotcakes?????? With 11 millions 360 in the world, if only 10% would buy the addon, then you would see the tide change... If 50% would buy the addon, then I guess some fans would just start saying that it's a game player and it should not count : )
One thing that would make the PS3 bluray player better that you dont hear much about is the possibility to update it via the internet. this is a feature i dont believe is standard on other b-ray players but will be soon as it is standard on HDDVD. If I was gonna buy a bluray player the PS3 would win for me hands down.
Latest sales records suggest that 6 million Ps3 has been sold globally. (source IGN) And thats not shipped systems . That is actual count of PS3 that are sold. Why does the article suggest there are only 1.4 million PS3s out in the world ?? 300K HDDVD vs 6.1 million Blu-ray. i dont need any other explaination
@rushbd: total ps3's sold globally is 4.48million not 6 million. the 1.4million the site uses might be just US numbers (and outdated numbers at that).
I bought a PS3 for a blu-ray movie player, and I'll eventually get some games for it besides Motorstorm and Resistance.
Uhhh...no. BR vs HD-DVD movie sales is now 75-25 No one cares that HD-DVD has more standalones, nor that it may have a higher tie ratio. People care about what movies they can watch, and studios will put movies on the winning format to end the war. Give it up HD-DVDroids. HD-DVDead is, as the name implies, gone forever.
so you mean the movie studios only care about movies sold and not how many people have the ability to watch said movies? thats like saying mc donalds only built 100 locations cause they sell 1m burgers a day from those and could sell even more if they had more locations but feel they dont need more locations, by the way the definition of "dead" is no longer alive, not breathing, in sales it means......0 sales.....and hd dvd is selling very well has anyone noticed that over 80% of proponents of blu ray have never seen a bluray film and only support it cause its ps3?
@ WilliamRLBaker Most of the movie studios have stock on Blu-Ray format, that is why they support it more. It's not just Sony who has a big chunk of the pie, but a lot of the other major movie studios.
bubble for you desperado. What matters is the number of movie sold. Blu-ray has more players simply because PS3 has a blu-ray player. Those that don't have an HDTV and do have a PS3 will automatically start buying Blu-ray movies. I know I did. I start buying Blu-ray movies as soon as I got my HDTV and others will do the same. As more PS3s are sold the numbers will increase for blu-ray. With all the latest announcements about blu-ray. There shouldn't be a doubt blu-ray will win very soon.
its doesnt matter 1.4million to 300k hey hey soon 2 be more
the PS fanbase to do a mass market forced push of their Blu ray format. Which caused the PS3 fans to absorb the added costs in the high pricepoint of PS3 and blindside the install base. And how do the fanboys react to this trickery? With thundering applause. And for everyone that disagrees, I would like to hear your rebuttle. I guess the only rebuttle you have is pressing that (-) feedback button. Why do all PS3 owners even care? I could care less who wins the format war.
Although the fanboys are sure to flame you, I happen to agree with you. Sony used the PS3 as a way to push Blu-ray into the market and secure their investment in the technology. Some portion of the added cost of the PS3 was certainly the result of putting Blu-ray in the box, but nobody knows for sure how much of the cost can be attributed to Blu-ray and how much belongs to other technology. Early adopters were certainly the guinea pigs, but it seems to have worked out well. I own a PS3 and I love it. Blu-ray playback is awesome. But I didn't buy the PS3 for Blu-ray. With the latest firmware releases and DVD upscaling over HDMI I sure don't regret it.
****Sony used the PS fanbase to do a mass market forced push of their Blu ray format. Which caused the PS3 fans to absorb the added costs in the high pricepoint of PS3 and blindside the install base. And how do the fanboys react to this trickery? With thundering applause. And for everyone that disagrees, I would like to hear your rebuttle. I guess the only rebuttle you have is pressing that (-) feedback button. Why do all PS3 owners even care? I could care less who wins the format war.**** OK, here is my rebuttal. Ready? Sony didn't force this on us. As Sony supporters, we still had options. Option "A": Buy a 360. Option "B": Hold off for a Wii. Option "C": Hold off for a PS3. Option "D": Buy nothing at all. Those options were there for us but we chose to go with option C. Even with the higher price point. Even with the year wait. Even with the lack of games when it first came out. (it will soon get very good) Do you want to know why we chose the PS3? Well here it is. The reason people like myself don't mind paying a little more for a very well made product is that the Original PlayStation and the PlayStation 2 gave us hours upon hours of enjoyment. Hours and hours of games that really stuck with us all these years. The PlayStation brand has really treated us well over the years. You also have to remember that a huge number of people that started gaming on the Original PS, back in 1995, (lets say they were 10 at the time would now be 22) are now at the age where $300.00 more (now its $200 more) than what they paid for the PS2(7 years ago) isn't really a whole lot of money when they remember how much enjoyment they got out of those two systems. Also take into consideration what other hi-end gadgets are going for in todays world. The iphone is selling for: Price - $499 4GB, $599 8GB http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/... I'm really happy with my purchase of a $600.00 game system, HD movie system, computer system (if I really wanted to make it one) There really are a lot of things going in favor of the PS3 right now. I will say nothing bad about the competition, MS and Nintendo, because they are both really nice systems and a lot of people are enjoying them. I had the choice to buy those systems and I still do have the choice. I still might buy into both those systems someday, but why would I want to leave a great thing? So there you have it. My take on it. And no I was not one of the people that disagreed with you.
I do not wish to start a flamewar with you, I only wish to state why I disagree with your comment. Even before I had a PS3, I supported Blu-ray. I believe in the better technology. I guess people who have a PS3 care who wins the format war because their system uses Blu-ray and they'd like to see the format of their console succeed. I myself think Blu-ray should have been put in the PS3, because eventually it will be needed for games. I guess you could use multiple DVD's, but usually doesn't work with open-ended games like Oblivion. (Yes I know Oblivion fits on a DVD, I'm just using it as an example of an open-ended game). That will be all.
I doubt Sony would have included it in their PS3 system; in fact, they probably would've gone with HD-DVD instead. The storage capacity was needed for games, but they needed additional mass market functionality in order to both offset costs in the near future, as well as guarantee the viability of said format. Had they pulled a Nintendo and solely chosen a format that could only be used for games, they would be portrayed as stupid and forcing their customers to adopt an expensive technology that they didn't necessarily want to buy into. Blu-ray however has the benefit of being superior to HD-DVD in storage capacity (thus higher quality audio and/or video depending on each title) as well as having the support of 90% of the industry. People complaining about Sony 'forcing a format' onto us seem to magically forget that every Nintendo console up until the Gamecube used proprietary storage formats. In fact, it seems to be that no matter what other companies do, it's Sony that ends up getting the flack. But no matter. Consumers deeply appreciate the added functionality of their Playstation 3s, and it is this feature that is pushing PS3 titles far and above the accomplishments of titles on rival platforms. Heavenly Sword is over 18 GB. Lair is 25 GB. Even Konami's PES multiplatform title is 18 GB on the PS3, featuring many more stadiums, players, and commentary. Stranglehold even includes the full 1080p version of Hardboiled on the same disc as the game; that's just insane.
A win for the Blu-Ray format well undoubtedly mean great success for the Ps3. If Blu-Ray is the format of choice, the Ps3 will be the most desirable Blu-Ray player out on the market. Sony has taken a risk, but the rewards for this risk is turning out to be a BIG bonus. Keep in mind, unlike the other two consoles, the Ps3 is the only console that will support the Blu-Ray format. M$ won't support it, or can't support it because of complications with it's HDMI (1.2) profile etc.. And even if they do, it won't appeal to consumers. After forking up $200 dollars on HD-DVD who wouldn't. Casual gamers looking for a next gen video player, along with a gaming console will undoubtedly buy the Ps3. In a year, I expect at least 10% of all Ps3 sales to be coming from "non-gamers." It's a big risk, but you have to admit they are going to get some big rewards.
I don't think that a true videophile is going to run out and buy a PS3 to anchor their setup just because of the way the box looks. Someone who wants a high-def player as the centerpiece of their A/V rig is going to buy a standalone player that has the features they want with a more traditional player-type look. The PS3, with its curves and shiny finish doesn't look like it belongs in an upscale A/V rig. It looks like a video game console. High-def DVD isn't quite ready for prime time, and it won't be until the new format is clear. It's getting there, but its time has not quite come.
The Ps3 is a very sexy looking beast, no one can deny that.. and it's probably the best looking Blu-Ray player on the market. As for futures, that is the very point I was making, the Ps3 has tons of futures that other stand along players don't have. From the ability to store pictures / video / audio and stream video / pictures etc.. from you PC to the simple ability to play games on one system.. the amount of "futures" on this system in unrivaled. The Ps3 is the best looking console, no denying it.
Bloodmask y indicate how sony produce a system that sony fans like... cause they know quality, and say they fell for a ploy if u don't care? As oppose to this is good for xbox cause they can knock ps off if they land the digital prop. It wouldn't even matter.
But what you fail to realize is that Microsoft could have done the same thing with HDDVD. And Blu ray would have been crushed. It isn't that anybody really picks Bluray it is just bc they buy PS3. I buy my console to play games. I could care less about HD movies. And I would be pissed if the 360 cost $600 bc it had an HDDVD drive. Bc DVD9 is doing just fine for games. All games have been on 1 disk so far. And the few that aren't are RPGs. Out of all the 360 games released I'm sure less than 1% are multidisk. Why is multi-disk a thing of the past? Oh I forgot bc Sony said it was. I guess Sony should tell that to the PC market then. It is bound to fail bc of the lack of Blu ray. Just think of how stupid that sounds for a second. And thanks for fixing the bubble system N4G. Before I made this comment I had 7 bubbles. We'll see how many I have when this thread is done. Viva la Sony.
than DVD-8.5 allows for, then explain how almost every PS3 title is over 8.5GB. Explain how multiplatform titles are consistently larger on the PS3 and adding countless new features that didn't fit on the 360 version? Hey, I'm sure CDs and Cartridges are perfectly fine for storing games, but you wouldn't get much out of it since developers would be severely limited. It's important to not get so defensive over your console of choice. We understand that you like it, and that's fine, but wasting your time to convince people that purchasing better technology is somehow wrong seems...well...
@ Bloodmask. I have a question for you. Why, up until now, has every generation of game systems updated their media storage? Sony is the only one that has done it this generation. Seems kinda strange to me that MS wouldn't want to upgrade to bigger storage. Also whats with putting out a 360 with no HD? They took a step back with those two things in my opinion. ----------------------------- ------------------------------ - ------------------------------ - ------------------------------ - ------------------- @ Bloodmask below, You stated: "Wrong tethered Only Sonys new systems have an upgraded media. Bc they always stand to gain from it. PS2 with DVD..bc Sony had a stake in DVD." Hahaha! You are wrong. Look through this and tell me that video game systems that were out long before Sony didnt update their storage with every new generation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... Pay extra close attention to the "Media" section. 1. Cartridges 2. Cards 3. Magnetic media 4. Optical media 5. Internet distribution See? Hahaha! Talk about "the blind truly are blind" Pot-Kettle-Black?
Only Sonys new systems have an upgraded media. Bc they always stand to gain from it. PS2 with DVD..bc Sony had a stake in DVD.. And now with PS3 with Blu ray. Sony has the biggest stake in Blu ray and the most to gain. And DJ I don't give a rats @ss what system anybody buys. And your whole argument is null and void bc Stranglehold for 360 could have released the movie on a second disk, as well as the PES6 content and everything else you named. You named a few games just like I said. Less than 1 percent. And if you are stupid enough to think you will get a 50 Gig game with that much content it will cost you. I would think that about 6 times the content would cost you 6 times that $60 price tag. With 6 times the development cycle. Sometimes the blind truly are blind. All more memory is going to get you is sloppy coding with lack of compression. And 10 times as many CG or in game cut scenes. There was a game system of gamings past that was notorious for lack of compression. It was called the NEO-GEO. It had 512 Meg cartridges. When Genesis and SNES had around 16meg. Do you remember how that went?
@DJ, good post.
bluray = sony,panasonic,samsung,philip ..etc. vs hd dvd =toshiba, 20% MS the winner is bluray nuff said
actually in stand alone units HD DVD has sold 150,000 players the other half of the 300,000 is from xbox add ons. so there are only 50,000 more stand alone HD DVD players sold over Blu-ray's 100,000. but this "war" is not going to be won with stand alone players. 1.5 million units that are able to play Blu-ray vs 300,000 units able to play HD DVD is proof enough where this "war" is heading. add on top of that the studio support, exclusivity sold at Target, suport from Blockbuster, and the higher sales of Blu-ray discs over HD DVD discs. while this "war" may not be officially over there is a strong indication of Blu-ray coming on top in the end.
I'm a big Xbox fan but i will admit i'm tempted to get a ps3 just for the blu-ray player. I do believe anyone who owns a hd tv wants to watch movies in hd and i for one wont buy HD DVD because it will lose this war in the end. The longer MS drags its heels on bringing video marketplace to europe the more tempting the PS3 gets.
The video marketplace isn't that good. I've downloaded a couple of movies, but the time it takes to download just isn't worth it in my opinion. I don't think the bandwith is there yet for digital distribution.
Well traditional people who would want a traditional looking player, are also looking for a complete entertainment system. The fact that PS3 offers blu-ray player, dvd-upconversion, pictures, web-browser etc will draw a lot of people to buy one. Don't blame Sony for knowing how to sell a format, they've been in the "wars" a long time now they know for the most part what they are doing and how they need to do it. Microsoft sells HD-DVD addon for 360 so you could say the are pushing their format too, just sony pushed it a little harder. If it was switched and microsoft was pushing a little harder, I bet a lot of people would change tone. And winning a war really isn't about what one has over the other, it's about who has more support, more market share, more promotions. It's about which format is being pushed the most. Right now that is blu-ray. Apple's Ipod for example, there are many better players than the ipod, but because of it's large market most people know of no other player and go with the ipod. So, right now blu-ray is taking the market, and will probably win, because when you're winning the "war" w/e hd-dvd has over blu-ray, blu-ray could simply just improve their player.
HD DVD is dead.PS3 has seen too that.lol
it's still way too early to call a winner yet. the blue-ray format hasn't even been standardized yet, and there are a lot of big name hd-dvd's coming this fall. no matter what happens, dlc will win when enough bandwidth becomes available.
It would take the mercy of the Zues to grant HD-DVD second life. Ever since the Block Buster announcement about aborting HD-DVD, there seems to be a similar trend going on among retailers. With this critical trend and the growing numbers of PS3s as the months sneaks by, the ominous cloud of defeat looms near and it looks grim for HD-DVD.