A new interview with Kazunori Yamauchi reveals the key difference between Standard and Premium cars.
That kinda sucks, but I hardly ever play a racing game in cockpit view, for some reason I can never tell where the boundaries of the car are.
I don't think the author meant that. ALL calls will have cockpit view, but the premium models will have finer detail such as roll cages, and damage implementation. That's what he meant, since we already know that many standards cars in GT5 Prologue HAD cockpit views. This has already been clarified over at GTPlanet
Because all GT games have a behind the wheel view....Prologue 5 included.
Yeah, just read the thread over there, seems to have been a combination of translator-san and interiors vs cockpit views and what they specifically mean. Eurogamer also mentioned Porsche and, as we know, that's definitely not happening.
Oh right, that makes more sense lol.
Why would they remove cockpit views from 800 cars? lol
This is GT2 all over again. Hundreds of cars yet many of them just doubles. 1000+ cars are announced for GT5, yet only 200-300 will matter and be highly detailed. And that is fine. I can`t wait for this game, and it lands on my birthday! woot!
I agree it does suck. I was looking forward to getting used to the new cockpit view but if they aren't going to have it for every car I'm worried the switching will throw me off.
try using the steering wheel. I used to hate cockpit view because it felt like your vision was blocked. but once you use the steering wheel it seems natural and you can drive better. atleast I think so. UNless you are using the steering wheel and just prefer the other views.
Lets put it this way... why would they put a Head-Tracking feature made intentionally for the interior view if not all of the cars have it...thats as simple as i can put it for all you idiots in disbelieve!
Blu ray has unlimited potential imho. It sadens me to see these kinds of limitations when I though there were none. I am a little suprised GT5 does not only have premium cars with all the same features, this is Blu ray and years of development we are talking about here. eitherway, it`s not to important for me I can`t wait for this game, GT5 will be awesome! Even if not all the cars are premium.
@ Montrealien those 200 will be rendered fully with intakes , engines and everything under bonnet. And it's hard to do interior of car like GTR concept because it doesn't have any engine etc..
Crap sites like ps3center.net need to do their research before publishing bullshit articles in n4g.com just to get hits. Just reading a line in eurogamer.net and then creating an article about it without checking the facts is not the right way to do it, if you are to be taken seriously. Check out this article in kotaku : http://kotaku.com/5565396/g... in which it clearly says : "Standard cars apparently won't have the exact interior modeling. For example, an Enzo's interior will look like the real deal, but your typical Mustang's will look like exactly like Mustang's."
I definitely still think something is amiss here. GT5P had over 70 cars, all of which had cockpit views. Eurogamer said: "standard cars won't have interiors, which is a bit sad, but there are, like, 800 of them" I'm hoping "interiors" refers to fully modeled interiors but all of them will have a cockpit view behind the wheel. Even GTPSP had that.
Nope, don't worry folks this article got it wrong the standard vehicles won't have any interior damage...not views like this article said.
Interior damage? WTF Thats crazy, but a very nice kind of crazy.
How do you get "interior damage" from "they will not have interiors"?
Good to hear, I was worried for a second. That makes sense though because I would find it hard to believe that a major detail like no cockpit view for most of the cars would be left out considering how much detail goes into GT games.
How do you get "interior damage" from "they will not have interiors"? standard cars will have scratches and dents like forza and 200 premium will be fully destroyabla with real time deformation. Doors will fly off after few big hits you will see interior of car like engine
Your suspicious are correct indeed, since all (or most) cars WILL have cockpit views including the standards models. Nothing has been compromised since we got a taste of the Prologue back in 07
Does that mean that only 1 in 5 cars will have crash damage and be able to flip? And do multiple NSX and Skylines count towards the 200 premium cars?
Game is coming Nov/2/2010. You will see.
As far as we know, standard models, such as the Super cars will have minor damage with scratches, but there has been no word on flips or roll cages as of yet.
Cockpit view =/= interior view The cockpit view include the steering wheel, dash, windshield, ... This we will get for almost all cars except a special few concept cars (Nissan GT-R black mask for ex.) On the other hand, interior view means under the hood, inside the trunk, and suspension parts when the body panels have been damaged and flew off. You can imagine why they can only do 200 for now, model everything under the hood and behind panels take a lot of times.
When talking about cars and the word "interior" is brought up, it means where the people sit.
This can't be right. I read somewhere on the official PS3 mag that all cars will have cockpit view.
its a translation error it sounds like...Cockpit view is not this 'interior view'...GT5 will be the first to get 'interior view'...which has rendered components under body panels, full car interior rendering with damage modeling, as well as under hood and trunk...This was always the difficult thing for licensing, as many car manufacturers simply don't allow it (its always a big deal to realistically show what happens to a road car hitting a wall at 150mph, at least to the people that create the cars)... its basically going back to what cars do and don't have 'damage' thats all...As far as I know all cars will have a cockpit view though, save the confirmed concepts where interiors simply weren't even finished in the real cars...this is simply the view from inside the car while driving, but it doesn't mean said cars will have all the damage modeling incorporated... confusing either way...I hope what I said is correct, as that was what was said in different interviews before...only with different wording that made it more understandable...if only 200 cars out of 1000 have a view where you see the steering wheel...thats lame...but GT5P had that feature on EVERY car, no reason they would remove it for the full release...
Kaz has showed us demos with cars that all have cockpit view. All cars in GT5P have cockpits. Interior refers to the damage inside the cockpit
thats a bit stupid if you ask me. might have something to do with the car manufacturers
It's understandable different cars different types of driving From racing cars to custom and day by day cars
ZOMG GAME OF THE DECADE! I hope there's a nice steering wheel bundle... Oh yeah the cockpit view. Alot of what Kaz says gets lost in translation, but the 'interior' refers to full modelled interior right down to the floor mats and engine etc, which is what has been confirmed from various sources. All cars will have to simple 'cockpit' view where you've got the steering wheel, dash, passenger seats and rear....
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOO I love playing in cockpit view. I guess I will be getting NFS instead.
Very misleading Article, should be removed :S
PS3 center in a desperate hunt for hits changed the aticle from eurogamer. Kaz never said anything about COCKPIT VIEW in the original article!!!!!!!!!!!!!
just wont have detailed interiors.
its the second article today that: a) title miss informs the people b) people don't read the article, and assume based on the title
on GTPlanet,we agreed they meant 200 with interior damage modelling but all having an interior view...
That a shame i only use interior views looks like alot of cars wont be driven for me i thought being a race sim it would have it on all like forza3 , grid ,dirt,f1 to name a few yeah they have less cars but i dont want to drive family station wagons in a game, will still buy it i guess.
he means not all cars will have specifically designed interiors BUT ALL CARS WILL HAVE INTERIOR VIEW....just the standard cars will have the same inside =)
1000 cars, but 800 are tard versions. From Eurogamer: "The 200 premium cars that take the final count past the 1000 mark are something else, however. The premiums have been lavished with a slightly worrying amount of detail - every single screw is visible in the hubs, the interiors have been recreated down to the stitching (standard cars won't have interiors, which is a bit sad, but there are, like, 800 of them), and their undersides have been comprehensively modelled to take into account a new physics system which, along with allowing for dents and scratches, can sends your ride flipping through the air during collisions." Also "there's over 800 of them, they cover the majority of the vehicles included in all the previous Gran Turismo games, including the PSP version, and they've been optimised and upscaled for the PS3." So basically the 800 cars are just shells with nothing special.
my god...i hope not!! i reserved gt5 a loooong time ago and this is the worst thing that could happen to me with this game!! i only play in cockpit view..so if theres only 200 cars with it...then gt5 will only have 200 cars for me!!thats a shame!! i really hope its a translation error!
I'm sure you get cockpit view, just no cool looking interior, maybe just a generic wheel and windshield.
I have a feeling this has been the result of a mistranslation and confusion between terms because interior and cockpits are two terms that can mean both the same but also very different things, and I'll explain why and I should be proven right when more reports that aren't Eurogamer come out. Firstly, premium cars have major damage elements, panels falling off, doors opening, things like that. These cars NEED to have fully modelled interiors, including engines, seats, whatever because they will become visible during the game and replays and they need to account for it. Secondly, they have already modelled 70+ cars with normal cockpit views for GT5P. Now, considering the wide variety of cars in this game what do they do? Scrap everything from GT5P or count things like the Cappucino as premium cars?
like I said above, its like GT2. We hade 650+ cars, yet most of them where doubles, triples and slight variations of the same model, only a hundred or so cars really matered in that game. I expect the same with GT5, 80% of the cars will be slight variations of many of the same cars and only about 20% of them will be the most beautiful cars in the history of racing sims. Nothing new here, and, I will be getting this sucker day 1! cause it`s my birthday! lol @KilZoneGeneralStrife below. No need to Hate on Forza here, this is a GT5 article. And guess what, as an unbiased gamer, I will be enjoying Forza for a few months still until GT5 actually comes out. asny racing fan should try out Forza 3, it is great, and it still has a few months to be on top, the big dog is just around the corner.
why,is it development being taken over by Turn 10? Just saying..most interiors in Forza 3 looks samey.all out of proportion.
I've never played Forza, I don't own a 360, sorry! I'm just going by what I've read.
KilZoneGeneralStrife you are a retard! right now forza 3 is the best racing sim ever...and the cockpit view is great..plus you can adjust exactly the distance you want from you and the wheel! so stop being a fanboy....fanboys dont have any credibility and are just plain stupid!
http://www.youtube.com/watc... Detailed interior view 1:47 to 2:19
NO WAY!! Every single car must have a cockpit view... I wont buy it if this article is true...
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