Microsoft have confirmed that the new Xbox 360 is the real dea. It has also be confirmed that the 250GB will appear as well as the built in wi-fi. It's priced at $299.99 and is released today.
they are exactly copying Sony now. edit: So nintendo has a 250gb hard drive and built in wi-fi and its black?
Nintendo did the same thing before PlayStation even existed. Just because it's synonymous with PlayStation doesn't mean Sony "Created" releasing slim models. Let's not fight over creation wars, it's petty. Edit: No, Nintendo had slim models of consoles of the past too. Is MS not allowed to have bigger hard drives, built-in Wifi and change color schemes? You people complain about it being a crappy product and when it finally decides to add more features you say it copies Sony. And who cares? The new model looks great. Too bad the rest of the E3 was terrible. We knew about the new 360, the features already existed on the damn PS3 since launch, and Kinect was like a virus that took over every hope I had for the press conference. Nothing interested me, I wasn't surprised by anything, Kinect took up way too much time, the games weren't games, I can care less about Forza support, and I STILL don't know how much Kinect costs, not that I want it. I don't mean to get people mad, but I really was upset with it. I KNEW MS was going to make Kinect more than a gaming product and treat it like a social tool, but guess what? Sony had things like video chat already on the PS3, I mean, what gamer wants this crap? I'm not even a bloody sports fan. It's a social tool, not a gaming device, not until I see more hardcore games. I had so much hope E3 would please me for Kinect, but it didn't. My God, everything was so disappointing. The Halo and Gears gameplay was nothing new, absolutely nothing genuinely made me look forward to the rest of the year. More exclusive COD DLC? The gameplay was boring as hell. Trailers of COD and MGS Rising? They are multiplats, right? Professional dancers in that Dance game? That game looked way too advertised for "casual" gamers Fitness games by Ubisoft? Chatting with people? Casual Hell. I don't even want to see tomorrow's conference on Kinect, it's just a show for the mass media. MS is trying to take the Xbox and make it more than a gaming device and Kinect is the tool to do that. And sorry if I'm ranting, and I'm sorry if I'm not praising anything, but that's what I thought. I mean really, where are the new XBL Features? Free ESPN? Hurray! /s I hate sports. Where are the new IPs? Granted, that Crytek game looked really great, but it was a tease. And I sure as hell don't think that is a Kinect game either, which just goes to show how Kinect is going to split and branch off the Xbox as a product. This was 10 Years of Xbox, and everything was underwhelming.
Looks like my 299$ guess was right ;) I really expected 2 HDD SKUs, pretty surprised. http://n4g.com/news/542715/... Alpha, they dropped the price of the current Elite to 249$, so you should call your Best Buy or wherever you got your new elite, and ask what your options are, refund some cash or switch to the new model.
They tried to buy people with all them 360s so hopefully they would write positive press etc on their sites and forget that totally boring/cringe-worthy conference. Although the new 360 does look really great, lol not much smaller though and we will see if that is quieter/reliable. EDIT: So Its going for $299, the current ELITE = $249 and Arcade = $149
Why is it that Microsoft always copies Sony? I hope the new xbox doesn't Red Ring 33% of the time.
Boring conference..! "Freeee xbaaaaax for aaall.." - He JUST saved it.. Wow..
Apple, Rim, Sony...MS. Whats your point? Its common business practice.
this conference was sooo boring everyone in attendance only got excited about getting a free 360 oh yeah they are sooo stealing the show at this E3..... NOT even the 360 fanboys can deny this boredom
Or I would jump all over this. Nice design and a fair price
Internet, HDD and even a floppy before the notion of CD ever went public, the faicom had all of that.
The new 360 = Exactly what the 360 should have been since launch.
dance central was the only game for kinect that actually looked fun and interesting...they didnt have the star wars game demo...just the video...nothing much for core gamers...but a lot of stuff for casual gamers
Alpha's right. Nintendo and Sega did it years before Sony. The redesign was definitely the highlight of MS's conference. I'm just curious if it's compatible with the current hard drives. BTW, I love how they announced that the system will be available immediatly. It's like a trip back in time to Sega's 1995 E3.
....agreed gears, fable and halo looked great, then they went and nearly made me fall asleep by dedicating the show to "kinetic" lol kinetic = no buy. and the games lol and then i thought they was going to announce forza4 for next year and boom, more controller free crap. edit: you know what, i have a feeling this years e3 by sony and microsoft is going to be ruined. and i will tell you why i think that... yes sonys keynote will also show some awesome games and hopefully have a date for gt5, but then they will go and dedicate a massive slice of their conference to move....motion crap. yes both sony and microsoft have/will show us games, but their main focus is undermining nintendo.. oh well, now we will just have to wait and see what all the other 3rd devs and pubishers are upto over the next few days. chins up gamers that dont want to waste their money on another used-for-a-week motion sensing gimmick!
Well, at least they confirm the new model, $299, I was expecting a lower price, a Couple of Real Exclusives, DLC WTF? and Multiplats, every person who watched was Expecting More after what happened yesterday....
i thought the confrence was alright. kinect* has some cool stuff and even though it dosent appeal to me, it will sell, all MS has to do is market it and millions of parents will but their kids one, just like the wii. the excersize stuff will sell aswell. for me thought their E3 really didnt attract me to the 360, i was hoping for it to be better. the new 360 is cool but im not going to buy it untill it is proven it wont break right away. was hoping for a lot of exclusive games not just gears halo and fable. i cant wait to see what nintendo has bc they kept quiet (maybe wii HD?) and sony with their exclusive games and 3D and MOVE and maybe new PSP2 and maybe some new hardware.
I don't have a 360 or Wii, has had my PS3 since launch, but I'm always completely open to getting a 360. I'd play Gears, Fable and Mass Effect in a heartbeat. And I was going into todays keynote with that mindset expecting to be shown games I would want, and wow was I disappointed. MG Rising was the best thing they showed, and I can already play that. Gears and Halo was strong, but not strong enough. And everything, EVERYTHING after that was over the top casual family games. I'll admit I enjoyed the voice recognition, and some of the hand control stuff, but other than that? Not a thing. I'm not going to come out and say Sony is going to "destroy" them or any of that, but they are in easy position to take E3 without a fight, they just need to deliver. But man was I bummed with Microsoft
Parapraxis, can I do that? I got mine at Wal-Mart though... If people like hot-sauce are too close-minded to realize re-launching consoles with new designs has been around before Sony even entered the market then you pretty much shown how little you know and how wilfully ignorant you are. What I find hilarious is that people rag on the 360's hardware all the time, and you would think they'd be happy to see a new model with better features, but no, they just go on to complain about them copying from Sony. I'm sure people like hot-sauce conveniently forget about why Trophies exist. @Dude420 I am interested in Reach, but what they showed was too little. Gears looks good, but really, they sacrificed all that to focus on Kinect. Didn't Greenberg say they weren't going to sacrifice the hardcore crowd? I still think Kinect can get support for games that I am interested in but MS blew their chance to show that to us. Now I know why they broadcast at Times Squares-- they are more interested in making Kinect the next big casual device rather than use E3 to cater to the more apparent gamers
As someone who loves Xbox 360 games, this was a terrible conference, I honestly thought MS was going to keep things interesting the entire time, but nope. I honestly thought the Kinect show was going to be at a seperate time and it was going to be about games and other huge announcement like the new design. I wouldn't be surprised if the entire place was bored. Negatives from the MS conference... - They have spent WWWAAAAYYYY too much time on Kinect and it just became uninteresting. - The actors/actresses they hired were terrible. - That animal game they have for Kinect made me cringe. - So little time on games and other announcements. Positives from MS conference... - The trailers they showed absolutely blew my mind, Gears 3 looks incredible, Reach looks even better (my jaw dropped at reach). MGS: Rising surprisingly looks impressive. - New IP with Crytek. Crytek is known to push graphics so I expect their new game to look incredible. - The redesign, It's about damn freakin time they include a Wi-fi, it's much smaller, has a 250GB HDD and is at $299. If my Xbox fails again, I'll be sure to get this puppy. I'm sure this thing will sell like hotcakes now. Other thoughts... Fable 3 looked good but I'm still not convinced, I need to see more gameplay to see if they made a jump in the graphics department. I will say though the new stuff looks fun. My score of this conference is 5/10, it only gets points because of the games they showed and the redesign announcement. Anyway, I expect the Sony conference will mop the floor with MS no doubt. I've defended the Xbox a lot, but there's no way to defend this horrible show. Edit: Btw Alpha this is aimed at your first post
They can do what ever they want. I for one say finally MS you gave what you had to give us gamers from the start just like Sony did. Hope they fixed the heating problems so this screwing of buying xbox's stop. The rest of the conference was shit. Only Crytek's game has me remotely interested on the 360 as of today...
I find it funny that people are saying MS are copying Sony with a slim, it's call evolution people. It's been 5 years since the 360 launch, they better have slimmed it down. The only real difference here between the current 360 and the new slim is wifi, it is still going to play the same games. I'm not saying that Sony made a better slim, but what Sony did do was cut the price with the slim and I don't see a price cut with the new 360.
They are waiting for Sony to do it first and then announce it them selfs. If not, great! More money per console...
well actually didnt atari start it all with the 5200
- Disagrees wtf for, you know, i know, we all know give it the **** up.
True Kinectimals=Nintendogs Kinect Sports=Wii Sports Kinect Yoga(whatever it's called)=Wii Sports Kinect Dance(whatever it's called)=Just Dance Kinect obstical course=Wii Resort
Kinectimals= EyePet Kinect Sports= Eyetoy: Play Sports Kinect Yoga(whatever it's called)= EyeToy: Kinetic Dance Central = EyeToy: Groove Kinect obstical course= Eyetoy: Kinetic Combat or something like that
best news of the microsoft press conference LMAO Wow that was pathetic. Sony doesn't even need to do their E3 conference, they've already won!
If Kevin Butler comes out on an elephant, shows a "Montage" (I love that commercial), and gives away free PS3's I would agree with you. That would also be hilarious!!
That image would be complete if he is going pew pew while on the elephant.
Sony just overtook MS by a lot this year.
the jackpot? a bazillion dollars/pounds/euros/yen? a nite with seven playboy bunnies? the world cup? CAN YOU TEL ME WHAT EXACTLY THEY HAVE WON ???? coz as far as i knew, e3 wasn't a competition giving prizes to the platform holders and 3rd parties. jesus !!
they won EVERYTHING
That was a bad show compared to last year and found it boring halfway through @ qface64 LOOOOOOOOOOOOL but damn that kenetic stuff was too bad i wanting to fall asleep
took you that long to be bored? after they showed mgs rising that show went down the toilet and FAST
It doesn't matter. It's still 300 bucks so it's not gonna do much for them. Beside, their conference was so crappy so they give out free 360s to please the crowd.
yeah now it is the same price as the ps3, so who in their right mind would buy it!
...Sega had 3 genesis consoles, each smaller than the last, nintendo did with the gameboy brand, the nes, and snes so you cant claim MS got the idea from sony
The Atari 2600 had the Atari Junior, so Sega didn't come up with it either.
it doesnt matter who did it first.. they did it because sony got higher sales with their slim/redesign model... SONY prove that it works in this generation.... they wouldnt have done it because another console did it 20 years ago
New xbox360....no games to play on it
I like the new design unfortunatly i have a 360 already. Did they just buy the crowd with free xbox 360's???
They are bribing the crowd with the new xbox 360. Since the new xbox has green lights instead of red it will actually be the Green ring of death and not red ring of death.
It looks like one of those mini PC's.
it actually looks like a CPU right?
but in a good way ;) So far i'd call it mediacore. NAtal LAG is radiculus sometimes. But Gym joga etc are quite cool imo. Forza natal demo was biggest thing imo. It shows how natal can be used in hardore games.
If you remember, he was playing a "pass the car" game. He wasn't even controlling the speed of the car! There was just steering, and no accelerating or braking was needed or shown.
Worst E3 for Microsoft ever. They gave a slim away for free for everyone in that theatre but they didn't do anything about expanding Live to other countries. No new hardcore games we didn't know about. Thank you Casualsoft. Thank you.
I remember buying this baby back in November 2006. Really though Microsoft wants to have their own Playstation. They are doing everything possible to mimic Sony. I also find it hilarious they are actually giving Xboxs away now. I guess that's one way to boost numbers. And the crowds dull reaction left a priceless look on the Microsoft guy's face. He was expecting a LOT more of a reaction hahaha.
The only thing i liked was the new xbox design. 360 went to the darkside ? lol
Very dissapointed with MS E3. ONE unannounced game: Kingdome. Thats all Gears 3 was off the hook Reach was cool. Have to admit it...Kinetic was convincing and quite cool too...no matter how much you hate MS, they did show some cool stuff ...BUT...WHERE ARE THE GAMES ????????
haha suck it
its bad when the die hard fanboys are disappointed
disappointed with MS!!!!!! We should celebrate it. Oh wait... he is doing this for the bubbles... so he can troll more...
Where was that Versus 13 announcement that was supposed to be announced. haha I'm pretty sure it's staying PS3 exclusive. The MS conference was not that great. I watched it on Spike. Over half of it was Kinect related and Kinect seems noticeably laggy. I was expecting something more from them. Sony will show their Move at theirs no doubt, but I believe they'll have more core games to show: LBP2, GT5, The Last Guardian, Socom 4, Killzone 3, etc.
250gbhd, Wifi, Ha funny MS claimed these things weren't needed 5 years ago
still no blu ray though!
That was a bad conference. More than half of it was just blahblahblah about shovelware for Natal/Kenekt
The first console to do this slim version was Atari and Intellivision. Get over yourself Sony invented this type of thing. N4G.COM LOL
Lol no final fantasy versus for 360 i wonder if cold will change his avatar xD Silly troll. Edit wonder if the new xbox will RLOD
Actual it will be GROD now. GROD = Green ring of death since the new xbox has green lights.
Might be $299 but for a few weeks it will sell like crazy as a few people will trade in there old boxes for the sleeker version. MS knows this.. Either way I am seriously thinking about finally getting a 4th 360 now as they finally redesigned it so RROD is probably finally dead but I really don't fancy paying for live..
and it has wireless N built in, thats better than ps3/wii wifi. Microsoft needed a redesign since the RRod hope this ones good, but my jasper is mine for me.
For fu*k's sake I can't believe how I ditched my PlayStation 3 as my primary system to buy a 360 made by those money hungry a**holes. I'm not going to buy any single multiplatform game for 360. Ever. And I'm not going to extend my Live subscription which ends in September. I'm sure as hell Sony will announce PSN's expansion to other countries as well as Turkey since I saw the store and currency with my own eyes. Go PSN go Sony fu*k you Casualsoft and fu*k you HARD! I mean I can't believe it they gave away free 360 Slim's for everyone in there and gave us real millions of hardcore gamers nothing but an empty ballsack.
in being the first console to ship with a hdd? That's odd..I thought the original xbox beat Sony to that. But even before that..."they are exactly copying Sony now"; if you are going to make such a comment, at least correct your sentence structure/grammer.
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"This changes everything" ripped off from Apples 4g announcement. I'm actually amazed to see how anti M$ people are. The case of the new slim model is obviously modeled for better airflow. If the cooling inside is better than they've pretty much killed off the rrod problem.
299 Same price as the PS3 fail unless it has a free year xbl subcription not picking this up until it drops to 199. Do like the new design though but price point is horrible. Edit: BTW whats with MS buying out the audience?? Free xbox for all lol....
I cant believe people disagree with you. Ok, its a diferent platform but its a console where you play DVDs only! The PS3 has a Bluray! Cmon people! Its should have been at least 50€ less than a PS3!!
299 - same as PS3 isnt impressive as a blu-ray player is still mad pricey for a decent unit. Good year for gaming, unless your a Socom fan :`(