Kinect has landed. Or should that be shyly stepped in from stage left?
I'll decide when I play it...thats the only way a gamer(not fanboy) can tell.
It cant cut it period.
MS already has a controller and games for hardcaore gamers. This is an attempt to capture more casual gamers ie the parents that play Wii. How many hardcore gamers are still out there debating over PS3 and 360 waiting on there motion controls to decide. These articles are so dumb. Yes Kinect is for kids.
yea, but MS has promised that Kinect is for everyone and that no one is going to be disappointed by the game catalog....Sony has said the same thing about Move....after E3 we will see which company will keep its promise because when the holiday season comes around....all the preparation or lack thereof over the summer will guarantee success or failure
pew pew.... pew.
but it's not for the Hardcore. It's for Casuals, hence why it's premiering on MTV and Nick. I've already shown the Youtube clips to people here in my office and they are SUPER excited about it1 They'll be buying it for there kids this X-mas and want to play with it as well. And no they are not gamers.
Besides me already having a Wii, Natal is the only thing next I'm interested in. But, I honestly can't think of anything to use it for with games besides a microphone, which is plus for me, being that I won't have to put it on my head. Other than that...its all about the Minority Report stuff. Oh and it will also work on my PC. Funny, people don't mention the uses for that side of user ability.
Ive been playing games for more than 19 years and i can decide if kinect will suit my tastes as a gamer without playing it, just like i know that i wont like game X without playing it. You really should speak for yourself. OT From what ive seen so far Kinect is worse than the Wii. The Wii at least has Mario and Zelda.
it's for kids enough said... natal is deffinately for kids.
No. Thx. bye
There's going to be a devs out there that put Natal to good use. Who cares what MS are pushing, there are devs out there that have development kits for this thing and some devs that have been using the same imput methods in their games for years may decide to take on this challenge and innovate. Those that have been developing for Wii will have honed their abilities over the past year and will jump on the opportunity to access Xboxs large userbase. By saying this peripheral will have nothing to offer gamers is the same as saying you have no faith in development teams and the games industry as whole. Gaming is about immersion; the best hardcore games are highly immersive and Natal/Kinect can facilitate this immersion with clever use by the devs.
Judging from what MS has shown so far..........NO.
So far we haven't seen anything that would appeal to the hardcore, and if they do announce something we'll need more than one hardcore title and 20 casual titles to entice the hardcore to pay Kinect's price tag. I guess we'll find out more in about 45 minutes or so when MS has their press conference.
"Judging from what MS has shown so far..........NO" It's true and only fanboys would deny it. Granted they have E3 to show some new stuff and it has potential but from what they have shown up to this point it is safe to say no.
Why would they show anything for the hardcore? That's not their audience with this. In fact, if they did make a hardcore game for it, it would be a waste of resources.
I can understand them appealing to new, casual users with Kinect - but to not at least try to appeal to the hardcore that currently own 40 million 360's, that's leaving out a huge potential market. Those guys already own 360's. You'd think it would be easier to get them to buy an attachment because they already own the console, and yet we've seen nothing for the Halo/Gears type player. I think that's a tremendous oversight if MS's press event comes and goes without any Kinect games that appeal to the hardcore.
We'll probably get those answers in 33 minutes.
Kinect conference is a seperate event, so probably not.
They shouldnt have hyped it up so much.
worry about the casual games first then the Hardcore and by Hardcore you mean Halo and Gears? nothing else?
NO NO NO
Sorry,i say Kinect casual crap system.
Kinect has nothing to offer the hardcore gamer crowd expect alot of casual titles.
it can , but right now you havent show me anything besides casual clip , so i can't judge beyond what i've seen . I'll only know in a few minutes
I'm sure it can, but we haven't seen anything that shows anyone has tried to make a hardcore game for it,
Child, I just want MS to create a Kinect Salon. I wanna do hair and paint nails. That would be super cute. As far as being able to cut it with Hardcore gamers? Not sure. I dont think hardcore players will even buy Kinect.
I think some hardcore gamers will buy it, you cant live off of shooters alone and sometimes it's fun to kick back with a brew and some friends and goof around. I'll say the same thing with the Nintendo Move or Playstation Wii or whatever that is. These things aren't geared for "Hardcore" they are geared for people that don't come to sites like these. There can be fun had with them though. I mean Farmville has like 50 million people on it, those are the people who will want things like this. I am not sure why we even ask stupid questions like the one in this article. No motion control setup is going to please "Hardcore gamers" Just wont happen. Doesn't mean it wont do well, the casual market is huge. *Edit* I love how Wii is pleasing Hardcore gamers, exactly how? Is it the tons of online enabled games they have? Move is so hardcore now as well? I mean I'm sure they wont have any party games at all huh? People jump on Kinect because it went after their target audience and with good reason, that's not to say today they wont show some hardcore things, like Fable 3, Ghost Recon and Metal Gear which are all supposed to be Kinect Enabled BTW. Do you honestly think Sony is going after the people who already own a PS3 with the Move? Of course not, they want the "Gimmick" crowd that plays Wii. I mean they might try to throw a few games that can "Work" with Move but bottom line is those people are at a disadvantage against regular controllers. Don't kid yourself, all motion controls are geared towards the untapped HD Casual market.
not entirely true , they have their casual focus , but we do know for Move and Wii that there are and will be "hardcore" games . The only ?? is for natal right now . Motion gaming is pleasing "hardcore gamers" quite fine . The rest is the usual BS of trying to ignore a rich history of wii titles , and upcoming move/wii ones
there is some killer potential for application and tech but the thing they have yet to sell me on is natal (i prefer calling it natal) being used for games. how precise will this be for games? ign's video impression of move for socom 4 proves how precise it can be. ryan clements popped out of cover and shot someones foot through a small opening underneath a car, doing that with the a controller is f*cking hard. that sold me on how precise the controller can be. so last night natal debut failed at impressing me but i'll just have to wait and see if MS can impress at there conference....
no way in hell. they i think MS is looking at it they're already got the hardcore-ish guys that are 16 an upd with halo, COD, and a bunch of 3rd party titles. the one area where MS has really never been able to attract is the casual family gamers and thats what nat i mean kinect is. However i also think thats also the reason kinect will fail. whenever you release a major peripheral this late in the console life cycle the only way it can have success is if the hardcore buy into it and think it's great. a great example is guitar hero. GH wasn't and instant success from the day it came out. for the first month is was mainly core gamers who on a whim got and then spread the word that it was actually good and then came the flood of casuals this was the the same caee for halo and COD4.
This is a casual gaming interface. They are going after the Wii market. There is no need to overthink & overanalyze this. Because Wii has been around for a while, we already know what kind of games work good with motion control & what don't.
but the casual market that don't have a 360, will they be willing to buy a console and natal(hate the name kinect). with rumors of the price of natal, is the price of a 360 and natal attracting enough to get the casual gamers? the rumored price drop or slim model can help. but they need games because if the games suck than well it'll fail. so all we can do is wait and see....
I'm more interested in the non gaming applications. Like being able to have voice recognition. Go to Netflix - watch LOST. Being able to use my hands to flip through menus, etc. Not one for flapping my hands in the air for games, but if others want to more power to them. Enjoy
I'll have to go with No, reason being they haven't shown anything promising just a bunch of smoke and mirrors like usual :/ Show GAMES damn it not a circus/celebs/actors blah blah, show some games to prove it. One thing I'm still not understanding is if they're so confident in their OWN product why is everything a staged/pre-recorded act why isn't anything live? Is it still that laggy and glitchy?
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