Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Conviction: originally scheduled for the third fiscal quarter of 2007-08, this game will now be released in the fourth fiscal quarter.
I knew this would get pushed off to 08. Pass Ubi success have overshadowed their own games! (Prince Of Persia and Splinter Cell) Now with the upcoming Assassin Creed, they will have more time focusing the press on one title instead of two. And the blokes at Ubimontreal werent really done with the game anyway.
Too much of a good thing might become a bad thing.
I think this is smart. They have so many games coming out this year, it would be smart to have some games release sometime next year.
Haze and Assassins Creed are all due out this year
We only need one more PS3 fanboy to approve this story... Time is running out..
That you are a pretty negative person.
As far as the delay goes, I just want to say I feel your pain.
If it came down to this or Metal Gear Solid 4, i think we'd all choose MGS4. So they're being smart and pushing it back after the MGS4 release. It better watch out for other great games coming out in the 4 fiscal quarter of 2008.
Well for gamers like me who have all three consoles, I am faced with decisions like the one i stated. Power of Green, you stop being a troll. At least i have the 360 which justifies why i can come in the 360 section. You don't have a ps3, wii, and i'm not even sure if you have a 360 but you're on every PS3 article bashing every good news to death.
Metal Gear Solid 4 for the win, i'll get this game if the gameplay compares.
I'd choose Splinter Cell over MGS any day. I have many reasons for this (that I don't feel like typing unless people want me to) but that is my opinion. Also, both are exclusive for seperate consoles so one-console-only owners wouldn't have to choose between one or the other.
Metal Gear Solid series isn't a traditional Xbox type game; how MGS4 would effect a game that sells on the xbox(SC) when its a PS3 game is beyond me.
Whats MGS4 got to do with this? Conviction is exclusive to 360 and so is MGS4 to ps3, so sales wouldnt really be that different, would they?
General you don’t own all 3 you are a Sony troll through and through. You can’t keep anything on topic no matter how hard you try. Any post you make ends up talking about your love for ps3. You are not fooling anyone troll.
I am glad they delayed it; there is already too much stuff to play this year! Lair, crysis, prime 3, bioshock (pc version), halo 3, mass effect and heavenly sword are more than enough and those games are just the tip of the ice burg.
Easy. I'd choose Splinter Cell 5
A woman with a magnet and a funny heart.
A guy who can take over peoples bodies.
A girl who loves canines.
...then throw in some big robots.
What the hell is all that about?! That's not a game, that's just something an acidic addict cooked up on a high.
I'm joking. But I'd still take Splinter Cell over it anyday.
really this is gonna be good.lol
EDIT: honestly that was a pretty good opinion as far as realism goes. i agree with u on some points. but u said mgs4 u cant move with ur gun. in the demo he was moving with it. i know not in the old ones but this one he was. the trash can barrow, i cant dissagree with u there. the AI, IM GONNA HAVE 2 DISSAGREE. MGS, U CAN CHANGE THE DIFFICULTY, IN THE REMAKE OF PART 3, U COULD COULD MAKE IT WHERE IF U GOT SPOTTED THE GAME WAS OVER. THE AI WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY HARD ON THE HIGHEST DIFFICULTY, THE STORY IS VERY COMPLEX AND MAKES YOU THINK. YEA I GUESS IF U WANT 2 SAY U LIKE COMPLETE REALISM, U CAN CUZ THATS OPINION BUT MGS U CAN PLAY IN A FIRST PERSON VIEW THE WHOLE GAME OR OVER THE SHOULDER OR REGULAR. IVE NEVER SEEN THAT DONE B4 IN ANY GAME. THE DIVERSITY OF THE PLACES, I UNDERSTAND UR POINT SOMEWHAT BUT MGS HAS SOME PRETTY DIVERSIVE PLACES. ALSO I LIKE HOW U CAN FIGHT IN A REAL WARZONE WITH OTHER PEOPLE FIGHTING. AND THAT ROBOT, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD EASILY BE MADE IN REAL LIFE.
SO OVERALL IMO, BETTER STORY,BETTER GAMEPLAY,BETTER GRAPHICS AND JUST A VERY CAPTIVATING GAME THAT PLAYS WITH UR EMOTIONS. BUT U KNOW WHAT, I RESPECT U BCUZ U DIDNT START SWEARING AND GOIN BALLISTIC AND U MOST OF ALL, U EXPLAINED URSELF.
1) I really enjoy realism. In MGS, you can't move while using your weapon. That is very unrealistic and annoys me greatly.
2) More on realism: There are no bosses in the SC series (by that, I mean harder to kill than others) which is very realistic as well, since you wouldn't come across that in real life (WTF!? why did ten shots to the head not kill this guy!?).
3) The SC series has always used light and shadow possibilities to their greatest potential.
4) The SC series takes players to the most varying climates and locations of any game I've seen. Whether it be a tropical jungle, news broadcasting studio, high-speed train in the French countryside, Japanese bath house, war-torn streets of South Korea, an arctic base near Russia, etc., the developers are always giving new challenges to the players.
5) The weapons and gadgets used in the SC series are either real or in development in real life, further immersing the player in the realism of the game (MGS4: wtf is up with that camera on one wheel that whips people?).
6) Videos of MGS4 haven't impressed me with their enemy AI. They don't move when a barrel is rolling at them from down the street, or notice that some guy in poorly done camo is crawling right in front of them shooting their fellow soldiers etc.
7) There are no huge cut scenes in SC (MGS has ridiculously long videos). I prefer to play the game, not watch it. That is what movies are for.
Those are some reasons why I prefer the SC series. Also, the devs aren't afraid of change and innovation (DA and conviction) giving new gameplay and challenges to the players. MGS4 will be a good game, but I don't want some gigantic mooing cow machines that are part robot part monster in my stealth-action game, thank you very much.
That is my opinion.
Edit: If your going to disagree with me, tell me why. Tell me why MGS is better.
does that answer your question hotshot?
Pepper i like mgs better (childhood fav so i have the nostalgia bias) but i agree with all of the points you made. If you want realism and true stealth action with a story based in reality get SC if you want a classic feeling game with big over the top nintendo style boss battles that are completely out of place and unrealistic go mgs. I will be getting both.
...while MGS is fun to some, it does follow the typical arcade formula; cgi scenes, boss battles, silly characters, etc... Splinter Cell brings the realism that these type of games should have. Splinter Cell beats out MGS in my eyes anyday.
the MGS series in a while, even though I'am looking forward to the PS3 one for when I do get a PS3.
For hard-cores that love the series and have played SC and are able to notice some of the differences, I welcome your comment. I have played SC on the Original Xbox and did like it.
However with this pushed till 2008, like I have mentioned, plenty of games this Holiday season. While some may say thats one less game for 2007, well just add it to 2008. Realistically, all the games, I would like to buy on the 360 this Holiday season, I don't think, I'll have time to play them all before 2008, or even buy every one. That's just me. I don't play games 24/7 for months, hey I have a life too ya know. As well as bills to pay.
This game was not on my radar, but it's all good.
Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo3, Army of Two, Blue Dragon, and Lost Odyssey are the games I'm really waiting for.
Your post really sums up how they are different styles of games. They are hard to compare, but when someone like "The General" blatantly says everyone would choose MGS4 over SC (for no reason at all), I feel compelled to defend the SC series (as it is my favorite videogame series).
But I can see how one could like the MGS games. They are both very different styles representing the stealth-action genre.
There is another game that lets you choose between first and third-person perspectives (that is also a stealth game) and that is Thief 3 (which was an awesome game that didn't sell to well).
1) If you played any mgs after the ps1 starter you can move and gun even run and gun something that you cant do in splinter since last time i checked your speed got reduced when you were aiming and overpenalized the aiming if you ask me. The speed they allowed you to move wouldnt have made your shots so unacurate.
2) I agree with these point however splinter has its dosis of unrealism too being that you heal all injuries with first aid kits and you can actually take several shots unlike most tom clancy games. And as a gaming dynamic i prefer challenging boss fights to just pulling a grab on an enemy as a climax point.
3)There have been several flaws with the light and shadow system. Examples Goggles, Pda, several points of absolute darkness still get you spotted by enemies without flashlights and or thermals.
4) And what does this differ from mgs everty single title changes the ambience and gives you new battlefield possibilities, i understand the on same disk issue however Mgs although keeping a majority setting in each game they dont make it feel so hallway when going through jungles or empty spaces something that SC does.
5) Future ambience for mgs4 they took the liberty of putting new weapons and gadgets. All other mgs games are based on their respective timelines with few racional exceptions. Besides all weapons and gadgets have a briefing explaining what they are and their use in military operations. like the origins of the m4, the ak47 the ak74 u all real world weapons. The only departing gadgets are mainly the metal gears and active camo for the first three installments, several current day gadgets for mgs3 which where dubbed as soviet prototypes. And gameplay mecanic enhancers such as the soliton radar or the codec. (on this note is there really a gascam in development with full heat night and electronic vision on it?)
6) And splinter cell does? when they dont react to a device on the wall that looks suspiciously like a camera unless it makes a noise?. At least in mgs they do room clearing and call for backup without mencioning using grenades and other weapons besides their main. Superior in some but behind in other if you ask me.
7) That is your preference however several people like their gameplay experience to be complemented with greatly done cinematic parts that complement the story and make you feel more involved.
Finally to the they dont feel afraid of pushing the limits has more to do with the negative feedback of the first two sequels feeling more like an expancion pack than a sequel. Kojima on the other part pushes the evelope storywise even when it alienates some of its gamers he always produces a quality and severly different product from the ones before every time pushing the system to its limits and introduces new game dynamics.
Hey, thanks for responding with your opinion and argument. Out of 6 disagrees, only 2 people have given me their reasons (I think if you disagree, a reason should be given).
Now, to your statement(s); You bring up good counter-points in your post. I agree that the SC AI can be questionable at times, but they have improved it over the course of the series (they now notice cameras on the wall without the noise etc) but nothing is perfect. As for moving with your gun, I wasn't aware that you were able to in MGS2. Of course, It's been a while, so I could be mistaken. In Splinter Cell you can only walk and it does penalize your aim for doing so (I agree with your comment on to much of a penalty), but I rarely use the gun anyways so...
And yes, I'm nearly positive his goggles are based off of currently developing devices (they discuss it in the special features of SC DA, but claim it would cost around $25,000 to get goggles with all three features).
A lot of this discussion is opinion based so it would be kind of hard to come to a clear consensus. Both do have strong points, but I find myself preferring Splinter Cell.
I think this is a good move, I won't have time for this many games as it is.
is that the game is the best it can be when released.
1 less exclusive. 360 exclusive lineup is getting worst and worst.
Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, Naruto,
UT3, HAZE, SOCOM, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Ratchet and Clank, Gran Turismo 5, and a bunch more.
Those are the exclusive games consumers will see in 2007 for both platforms. Which has the better line up? Clearly PS3.
PS wondering about 2008? PS3 has Killzone 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Final Fantasy, New Gran Turismo, and inFamous. Nuff said.
yeah, somebody's in trouble. At least i know PS3 won't disappoint. I basically spend most of my time playing on my ps3 anyways while my brother still finds it fun to play Gears.
Oh yes, the PS3 will have the far better line-up next year. Oh, and you forgot about Tekken 6.
Thank you for not mentioning lost oddyssey, ace combat, eternal sonata, beautiful katamary and pgr4 + a bunch more.
Or people can stop being such of stupid fanboys... and buy both consoles so they don't have to miss on any of those games you listed... I mean seriously.... I don't want to pick from the games you listed... I want them all...
"Those are the exclusive games consumers will see in 2007 for both platforms. Which has the better line up? Clearly PS3." no you are blind by famboysm... the way I see it... both consoles have enough AAA games that no one will be able to play them all before the next batch of games are released... "better line up".... give me a break! Why don't you fanboys stop being such of losers and recognize that both consoles have a great line up... instead of trying to embarrass yourself by trying to undermine any of the consoles line up.
You fanboys are every but gamers... you are just here to start a flamewar.
Gt5 for one will get pushed back (anyone wanna take that bet?) and i love how you leave out lost oydessy, blue dragon, katamari and pgr4.
The 360 line is much strong for xmas07. All of the ps heavy hitters come out next year.
secured the rights to the next Splinter Cell to have a game similar to MGS4. Seeing as how it is most likely exclusive to PS3. They are different but at least in the same genre.
They are both great franchises. But I think Splinter Cell is a lot more realistic.
I'm sure that SC4 will be good. Ubisoft just has a lot going on right now.... Haze, Assassin's Creed...etc. and wants to make sure each game is polished on release day.
And Ubisoft gladly obliged taking the money knowing sales on the PS3 version would be close to zilch when competing with Metal Gear.
I love business.
i am glad they pushed it off, i am going to be so busy with games this fall it is going to take forever just to get through all the awsome games coming in the next few months.
i'm glad they pushed this back. this is one of my must buys and i have like 10 other must buys come this fall and winter. id be too busy with other games and its gonna be hard to find the cash for all these games. i lol at all the ps3 fanboys posting here.
Its funny if we ignor news you PS3 fanboys think is important you chase after us and post what you would have said in the PS3 post in our 360 threads This isn't a MGS4 thread.
Halo 3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Blue Dragon, Naruto, Ace Combat, Lost Odyessy, Two Worlds, PGR4 and more.
No one was wondering about PS3 titles in 2008 in a 360 thread. lol
2008 360: Huxley, Too Human, Elveon, Thesis, Alan Wake,
Halo Wars, Fable 2 and more. Heres a list of games that have old and out dated release dates but its a games list http://www.spaziogames.it/c...
I'v read some people saying that PS3 will win 2oo8 but i don't see it with the known games. PS3 has 4 or 5 big titles coming out next year i know of around 20 360 games that have promise.
Huxely, Thesis, Alan awake? Elveon?
I've give you Halo Wars and Fable 2.
2 decent hits coming to XBOX 360 in 2008.
I take it you haven't heard anything about Alan Wake. That game will be amazing and a huge hit.
no offense dude...but to say a game is going to be a hit while it's still in development and before you've even played it...Is just ridiculous...And sorry but if people want to throw around the fanboy comment...I think that would be grounds to throw it...Backing something blindly...without first hand accounts. Say it looks promising fine, but to claim it a hit before its release...just no..
I agree, it is somewhat ridiculous of me to say that. However, it is being published by MS and I doubt they will just let the game pass by without giving it some anticipation. The graphics are amazing and the story sounds really cool, but your right, I should hold off for a while. But, I'm not the only one to claim a game will be a hit before it's released (MGS anyone?).
Oh and as far as MGS...I completely agree, Sony crowd is just as guilty...All the hoopla over KZ2 and HS...I'm really not buying until I play the damn game
why are people saying, that when a game is on Xbox360/PC it is automatically xbox360 exclusive?? don't be so desperate...
Try again, Halo 3, Bioshock, Ace Combat 6, Blue Dragon, Mass Effect, Naruto, Lost OD, PGR4, Two Worlds, Eternal Sonata, Katamri, the good VF5, Viva Pinata, Relic, cause see unlike you we have a diverse 360 only lineup.
Plus GT5 is not the full game, its just a sick demo, Socom, and warhawk are not going to make a dent, their big games, and their multiplayer only.
Then pretty much in Q1 of 2008 we've got UT3, Splinter Cell, Too Human, then for the year so far Halo Wars, Peter Jackson game, Alan Wake, Banjo 3, Haze and who knows what else. Unlike Sony MS hasn't shown their cards.
If you followed FFXIII development you would know its due out late 2008 in JAPAN and they said near a years length to translate it so.... 2009.
Honestly, I'm glad Conviction is being delayed till 2008. Its already like 15 AAA titles lined up for 360 in 2007 so thats 60 dollars that gets to stay in my pocket.
it's almost a relief. I'm running into two problems:
1) Being able to afford all the games I want.
2) Finding the time to play them all.
Splinter Cell being delayed until next year is almost a blessing, IMO.
15 aaa titles to be released in the remainder 07? Care to list those?
This game will get slapped to the moon if it cames around the time of MGS4
really? why is that? one is on 360 and the other on PS3. I'd say about 2% can afford both consoles, so that wouldn't make such an impact.
if anything..... being that 360 has an installed base that is 3 times that of PS3, there could be more sales of Splinter Cell.
if you disagree, then your just an idiot
don't believe me, check this out http://www.gametrailers.com...
look where Snake positions his hand when his acting like one of the statues. his grabbing the statues d*ck. and when he kills that first guard, he couldv'e just broken his neck but no he had to hump him on the ground. then when he plays dead and starts crawling he starts humping th e floor. then he body checks one of the guards and kills him by grabbing his balls.
Snake the rump ranger?
hahaha caught all that stuff too. Snake may be gay or straight but regardless thats not going to stop him from starring in the greatest stealth action game ever
i think its a good move.... probably to not compete with MGS4 but it sure fills the 360 spot for stealth/adventure type game when MGS4 does come out.
and for anybody that thinks 360 line-up isn't looking good.... how can anyone forget Moore's so called "perfect storm?" the 3 biggest games of the year will ALL be on 360.
GTA4 -exclusive episodic content
Madden - 60fps vs PS3 30fps
the the two that disagree.... the perfect storm is having the three best selling games of the year ALL on one system. No other games will sell more than GTA, Madden, and Halo. Fact. And being that you can get all three only on 360 gives it the advantage.
And girlgamer, i didn't know PS3 was lucky enough to get Madden to run as good as he 360 version. But what about the exclusive content for GTA and Halo. Those are the 3 blockbusters of the year.... not LittleBigPlanet, Lair, or HS.
Madden - Ps3 will run in 60fps also http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...
And how is it the perfect storm if two of the three games will be on the ps3 as well?
Anyways, the perfect storm is having all 3 consoles and getting to play all the AAA titles coming out this fall. That's the perfect storm that only a few gamers can ride. I feel sorry for you fanboy.
Girl gamer though i doubt you are a girl i totally agree with you. The perfect storm is all 3 (well and a pc too crysis is gonna rock).
again the "perfect storm" that Moore was referring to was in regard to the best selling season ever for video games which was the holiday of 04. And that year Madden, GTA, and Halo DOMINATED... as in were the best sellers, as in proven blockbusters that will likely sell more than every other game this season too.
Guys you do realise the PS3 is getting content for GTA4 don't you?
360 gets episodic content.
PS3 gets extra areas added onto Liberty City.
Read it a week or so ago. Hasn't been officially confirmed by Rockstar so it hasn't hit the news yet.
Of course R* will work on the 360 content first and give that priority as they were paid for it, but they're still gonna push out some content for the PS3.
"2% of gamers can afford both"; has it ever cross peoples minds casual gamers do not spend all their time on games and do not buy more than one console by choice?.
#16 I dissagree MGS4 has yet to catch up with SCDA. Lets hope the devs work out the animations with the fights in SCC.
don't mind the ps3 fans, their just hallucinating that they actually have games.
In my opinion Resistance, motorstorm and gaiden all rock.
gahd dammit, evrything is being moved to 08
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SC doesn't even come close to the MGS franchise, not in sales and not in quality(reviews). Now MGS 4 just slapped everything to date, Crysis quality xbots. This game has it all, great graphics, physics and atmosphere, stealth action , action, FPS view and hundreds of possibilites to interact with the enemies and enviroments.
I really wanted this game this year :'(
I geuss now they can make the game better.
ya once again there is no game that looks better then Crysis, MGS4 looks really really good but it doesn't beat Crysis.
your right, this had many ways to interact with the enemies including raping them to death
Can't never compare SC with MGS their not in the same league thast like comparing FF with Blue Dragon.............
lol. that's funny. first everybody says mgs is coming to the 360 - now everybody's bashing mgs ... stupid punks!!
well, not to sound stupid but this may be a good thing. In 2007 there is already the following games. And i am not saying they are all exclusive or they will all be amazing, but they will all be available on my 360.
Half-Life 2 Orange Box
Call of Duty 4:Modern Warfare
World In Conflict
Ace Combat 6
each of those games have quite a lot of hype and have high expectations. There is no way i could get all those games, so conviction going to 2008 may be a good thing. Now it joins halo wars, alan wake, and fable 2, haze, ut3, too human, and the next banjo kazooie game.
Games get delayed, so what. It has nothing to do with solid snake and his richard simmons clothes.
considering ps3 (yes, i know microshaft payed up, me not stupid)