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Splinter Cell Conviction pushed into '08

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Conviction: originally scheduled for the third fiscal quarter of 2007-08, this game will now be released in the fourth fiscal quarter.

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Kokoro3465d ago

I knew this would get pushed off to 08. Pass Ubi success have overshadowed their own games! (Prince Of Persia and Splinter Cell) Now with the upcoming Assassin Creed, they will have more time focusing the press on one title instead of two. And the blokes at Ubimontreal werent really done with the game anyway.
Too much of a good thing might become a bad thing.

TriggerHappy3465d ago

I think this is smart. They have so many games coming out this year, it would be smart to have some games release sometime next year.

Haze and Assassins Creed are all due out this year

razer3465d ago

We only need one more PS3 fanboy to approve this story... Time is running out..

EZCheez3464d ago

That you are a pretty negative person.

As far as the delay goes, I just want to say I feel your pain.

The General3465d ago (Edited 3465d ago )

If it came down to this or Metal Gear Solid 4, i think we'd all choose MGS4. So they're being smart and pushing it back after the MGS4 release. It better watch out for other great games coming out in the 4 fiscal quarter of 2008.

Well for gamers like me who have all three consoles, I am faced with decisions like the one i stated. Power of Green, you stop being a troll. At least i have the 360 which justifies why i can come in the 360 section. You don't have a ps3, wii, and i'm not even sure if you have a 360 but you're on every PS3 article bashing every good news to death.

Metal Gear Solid 4 for the win, i'll get this game if the gameplay compares.

Dr Pepper3465d ago

I'd choose Splinter Cell over MGS any day. I have many reasons for this (that I don't feel like typing unless people want me to) but that is my opinion. Also, both are exclusive for seperate consoles so one-console-only owners wouldn't have to choose between one or the other.

power of Green 3465d ago

Metal Gear Solid series isn't a traditional Xbox type game; how MGS4 would effect a game that sells on the xbox(SC) when its a PS3 game is beyond me.

Somnus3465d ago

Whats MGS4 got to do with this? Conviction is exclusive to 360 and so is MGS4 to ps3, so sales wouldnt really be that different, would they?

VirusE3464d ago

General you don’t own all 3 you are a Sony troll through and through. You can’t keep anything on topic no matter how hard you try. Any post you make ends up talking about your love for ps3. You are not fooling anyone troll.

I am glad they delayed it; there is already too much stuff to play this year! Lair, crysis, prime 3, bioshock (pc version), halo 3, mass effect and heavenly sword are more than enough and those games are just the tip of the ice burg.

Xeoset3464d ago

Easy. I'd choose Splinter Cell 5

A woman with a magnet and a funny heart.
A ninja.
Count Dracula.
A guy who can take over peoples bodies.
A girl who loves canines.
...then throw in some big robots.

What the hell is all that about?! That's not a game, that's just something an acidic addict cooked up on a high.

I'm joking. But I'd still take Splinter Cell over it anyday.

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hotshot12373465d ago (Edited 3464d ago )

really this is gonna be good.lol
EDIT: honestly that was a pretty good opinion as far as realism goes. i agree with u on some points. but u said mgs4 u cant move with ur gun. in the demo he was moving with it. i know not in the old ones but this one he was. the trash can barrow, i cant dissagree with u there. the AI, IM GONNA HAVE 2 DISSAGREE. MGS, U CAN CHANGE THE DIFFICULTY, IN THE REMAKE OF PART 3, U COULD COULD MAKE IT WHERE IF U GOT SPOTTED THE GAME WAS OVER. THE AI WAS ACTUALLY PRETTY HARD ON THE HIGHEST DIFFICULTY, THE STORY IS VERY COMPLEX AND MAKES YOU THINK. YEA I GUESS IF U WANT 2 SAY U LIKE COMPLETE REALISM, U CAN CUZ THATS OPINION BUT MGS U CAN PLAY IN A FIRST PERSON VIEW THE WHOLE GAME OR OVER THE SHOULDER OR REGULAR. IVE NEVER SEEN THAT DONE B4 IN ANY GAME. THE DIVERSITY OF THE PLACES, I UNDERSTAND UR POINT SOMEWHAT BUT MGS HAS SOME PRETTY DIVERSIVE PLACES. ALSO I LIKE HOW U CAN FIGHT IN A REAL WARZONE WITH OTHER PEOPLE FIGHTING. AND THAT ROBOT, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD EASILY BE MADE IN REAL LIFE.

SO OVERALL IMO, BETTER STORY,BETTER GAMEPLAY,BETTER GRAPHICS AND JUST A VERY CAPTIVATING GAME THAT PLAYS WITH UR EMOTIONS. BUT U KNOW WHAT, I RESPECT U BCUZ U DIDNT START SWEARING AND GOIN BALLISTIC AND U MOST OF ALL, U EXPLAINED URSELF.

Dr Pepper3465d ago (Edited 3464d ago )

1) I really enjoy realism. In MGS, you can't move while using your weapon. That is very unrealistic and annoys me greatly.

2) More on realism: There are no bosses in the SC series (by that, I mean harder to kill than others) which is very realistic as well, since you wouldn't come across that in real life (WTF!? why did ten shots to the head not kill this guy!?).

3) The SC series has always used light and shadow possibilities to their greatest potential.

4) The SC series takes players to the most varying climates and locations of any game I've seen. Whether it be a tropical jungle, news broadcasting studio, high-speed train in the French countryside, Japanese bath house, war-torn streets of South Korea, an arctic base near Russia, etc., the developers are always giving new challenges to the players.

5) The weapons and gadgets used in the SC series are either real or in development in real life, further immersing the player in the realism of the game (MGS4: wtf is up with that camera on one wheel that whips people?).

6) Videos of MGS4 haven't impressed me with their enemy AI. They don't move when a barrel is rolling at them from down the street, or notice that some guy in poorly done camo is crawling right in front of them shooting their fellow soldiers etc.

7) There are no huge cut scenes in SC (MGS has ridiculously long videos). I prefer to play the game, not watch it. That is what movies are for.

Those are some reasons why I prefer the SC series. Also, the devs aren't afraid of change and innovation (DA and conviction) giving new gameplay and challenges to the players. MGS4 will be a good game, but I don't want some gigantic mooing cow machines that are part robot part monster in my stealth-action game, thank you very much.

That is my opinion.

Edit: If your going to disagree with me, tell me why. Tell me why MGS is better.

etownone3465d ago

does that answer your question hotshot?

VirusE3464d ago

Pepper i like mgs better (childhood fav so i have the nostalgia bias) but i agree with all of the points you made. If you want realism and true stealth action with a story based in reality get SC if you want a classic feeling game with big over the top nintendo style boss battles that are completely out of place and unrealistic go mgs. I will be getting both.

FirstknighT3464d ago (Edited 3464d ago )

...while MGS is fun to some, it does follow the typical arcade formula; cgi scenes, boss battles, silly characters, etc... Splinter Cell brings the realism that these type of games should have. Splinter Cell beats out MGS in my eyes anyday.

kewlkat0073464d ago

the MGS series in a while, even though I'am looking forward to the PS3 one for when I do get a PS3.

For hard-cores that love the series and have played SC and are able to notice some of the differences, I welcome your comment. I have played SC on the Original Xbox and did like it.

However with this pushed till 2008, like I have mentioned, plenty of games this Holiday season. While some may say thats one less game for 2007, well just add it to 2008. Realistically, all the games, I would like to buy on the 360 this Holiday season, I don't think, I'll have time to play them all before 2008, or even buy every one. That's just me. I don't play games 24/7 for months, hey I have a life too ya know. As well as bills to pay.

This game was not on my radar, but it's all good.
Bioshock, Mass Effect, Halo3, Army of Two, Blue Dragon, and Lost Odyssey are the games I'm really waiting for.

Dr Pepper3464d ago (Edited 3464d ago )

@ VirusE

Your post really sums up how they are different styles of games. They are hard to compare, but when someone like "The General" blatantly says everyone would choose MGS4 over SC (for no reason at all), I feel compelled to defend the SC series (as it is my favorite videogame series).

But I can see how one could like the MGS games. They are both very different styles representing the stealth-action genre.

@ hotshot1237

There is another game that lets you choose between first and third-person perspectives (that is also a stealth game) and that is Thief 3 (which was an awesome game that didn't sell to well).

Greysturm3464d ago

1) If you played any mgs after the ps1 starter you can move and gun even run and gun something that you cant do in splinter since last time i checked your speed got reduced when you were aiming and overpenalized the aiming if you ask me. The speed they allowed you to move wouldnt have made your shots so unacurate.

2) I agree with these point however splinter has its dosis of unrealism too being that you heal all injuries with first aid kits and you can actually take several shots unlike most tom clancy games. And as a gaming dynamic i prefer challenging boss fights to just pulling a grab on an enemy as a climax point.

3)There have been several flaws with the light and shadow system. Examples Goggles, Pda, several points of absolute darkness still get you spotted by enemies without flashlights and or thermals.

4) And what does this differ from mgs everty single title changes the ambience and gives you new battlefield possibilities, i understand the on same disk issue however Mgs although keeping a majority setting in each game they dont make it feel so hallway when going through jungles or empty spaces something that SC does.

5) Future ambience for mgs4 they took the liberty of putting new weapons and gadgets. All other mgs games are based on their respective timelines with few racional exceptions. Besides all weapons and gadgets have a briefing explaining what they are and their use in military operations. like the origins of the m4, the ak47 the ak74 u all real world weapons. The only departing gadgets are mainly the metal gears and active camo for the first three installments, several current day gadgets for mgs3 which where dubbed as soviet prototypes. And gameplay mecanic enhancers such as the soliton radar or the codec. (on this note is there really a gascam in development with full heat night and electronic vision on it?)

6) And splinter cell does? when they dont react to a device on the wall that looks suspiciously like a camera unless it makes a noise?. At least in mgs they do room clearing and call for backup without mencioning using grenades and other weapons besides their main. Superior in some but behind in other if you ask me.

7) That is your preference however several people like their gameplay experience to be complemented with greatly done cinematic parts that complement the story and make you feel more involved.

Finally to the they dont feel afraid of pushing the limits has more to do with the negative feedback of the first two sequels feeling more like an expancion pack than a sequel. Kojima on the other part pushes the evelope storywise even when it alienates some of its gamers he always produces a quality and severly different product from the ones before every time pushing the system to its limits and introduces new game dynamics.

Dr Pepper3464d ago

@ Greysturm

Hey, thanks for responding with your opinion and argument. Out of 6 disagrees, only 2 people have given me their reasons (I think if you disagree, a reason should be given).

Now, to your statement(s); You bring up good counter-points in your post. I agree that the SC AI can be questionable at times, but they have improved it over the course of the series (they now notice cameras on the wall without the noise etc) but nothing is perfect. As for moving with your gun, I wasn't aware that you were able to in MGS2. Of course, It's been a while, so I could be mistaken. In Splinter Cell you can only walk and it does penalize your aim for doing so (I agree with your comment on to much of a penalty), but I rarely use the gun anyways so...
And yes, I'm nearly positive his goggles are based off of currently developing devices (they discuss it in the special features of SC DA, but claim it would cost around $25,000 to get goggles with all three features).

A lot of this discussion is opinion based so it would be kind of hard to come to a clear consensus. Both do have strong points, but I find myself preferring Splinter Cell.

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