Submitted by alaa 1750d ago | rumor

Natal’s River Rush Screenshot Is Real-Time

Judging by the screenshot, the game looks really, really good compared to previous Natal game Ricochet. Turn 10 community manager, Che Chou, confirmed that the screenshot is indeed real-time and not CG, also informs that the game has really good graphics, especially the water effects. Expect a full information blow out tonight regarding Microsoft’s Project Natal. (Microsoft, Project Natal, Xbox 360)

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Cajun Chicken  +   1750d ago
And I should be surprised...because?
mrv321  +   1750d ago
It's a Natal game that doesn't have a red ball... isn't that enough for you? Mind you that raft is red.

Not that good graphics, especially considering the genre, and yes the genre matter for example RTS's look bad, Racers have great graphics because you only have to load a track and not a level.
SOAD  +   1750d ago
I think the screenshot looks great. I just don't understand how the player is going to use Natal to play the game.
jack_burt0n  +   1750d ago

You and the other players have to move around the raft to steer it and keep it balanced, you all have to jump in unison to jump over branches and stuff.
Iamback  +   1750d ago
Lol why would that be CG, its not like it looks THAT good ROFL
ColdFire  +   1750d ago
RTS doesn't have to look bad, what are you basing that on?
Triella  +   1750d ago
First 7 seconds
of this video are River Rush's gameplay, apparently you need to jump when necessary.

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webeblazing  +   1750d ago
triella imma have to keep that vid for when i need a laugh
D4RkNIKON  +   1750d ago
Gameplay of jumprope. confirmed.
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mrv321  +   1750d ago
RTS's look bad because your controlling a large amount of units on a large map that CANNOT be streamed. Here's my example

ANY FPS running on a PC.. so long as it's recent and not poorly coded VS any other RTS on the same PC.

I love RTS's don't get me wrong, great depth BUT they are large battles and the second you zoom in close you notice the animations which are to say the least lacking, then the detail also really low compared to other genres, not due to a developer but because that's what's needed. I'd rather a fluid and fun RTS like C&C:TS other a RTS with crysis engine running poorly.
HolyOrangeCows  +   1750d ago
1) It's a small image.
2) The supposed claim by the Turn 10 community manager is lacking a source.

That's GamesThirst for ya.

EDIT: It got approved of anyway. Good job, guys. Pfft.
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Nike  +   1750d ago
I don't know why they didn't include the GAF post as the source (it still would have been classified as a Rumour) in the actual news article. My only guess is that he was afraid we'd mark at as "Wrong Source" and report it. Next best thing: Hide it altogether and no one will be the wiser.

Which is funny because if he simply reported it as being from NeoGAF and put it under Rumours, he wouldn't have had so many reports. :P

@Gaystation 3: Wait, dev comments on forums still qualify as legitimate news posts (even if they're rumours). So this can still be reported as the wrong source.
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Gaystation 3  +   1750d ago
It wasn't hard to find. I saw Che post this earlier today on NeoGAF http://www.neogaf.com/forum...
HolyOrangeCows  +   1750d ago
I trust Turn 10 staff as far as I can throw them. Did he have anything to do with the creation of this game or has he played it? (I'm asking)
EDIT: I just checked, he never answers anyone's questions about playing it.

But still, more importantly, it's a tiny image.
What can we really get out of it?
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Gaystation 3  +   1750d ago
I think he's just played it. His comment did not reveal much, just that the screenshot was real and had very good water effects.


I would suggest contacting Catastrophe and asking her to edit the story.
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Godmars290  +   1750d ago
Why are people talking about a screen shot when there's a video clip?
The one they show before the dancing family. Why not just show - and release that?

Also, thought the question wasn't weather or not Natl games would deliver decent graphics, but weather or not they could deliver graphics on equal to high-end 360-only titles? That you'll even see hardcore games on it at all.

For which a rafting doesn't qualify.
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air1  +   1750d ago
why do you always feel so threatened by natal?

what part of we will still have hardcore games dont you get? if fun family games dont interest you then fine i understand that you have to be 100% hardcore at all times, you will still have that choice. but why try so hard to ruin it for ppl that wouldnt mind giving it a shot?

and why does everything have to be some conspiracy theory with you? they dont want to show it cause they want to do it at E3, do you not get it?
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Godmars290  +   1750d ago
I only asked why there's an article about a screen shot when there's video. Also why the same people into Halo and MW getting wet over a family game.

You'd think a Halo or MW type game using Natal would do that.
air1  +   1750d ago
we both know that you are stealth trolling, so lets not get all " but all i said was...." on me.... flip flopping will not work.

ppl are interested in the damn game, plain and simple. again, i can understand that you can not put your hardcorness to the side for a few, but why constantly try and ruin it for every one? dont make me post up your history with my last bubble. the images look great it looks good enough for a "fun family" game. just so you know i enjoyed many games over the years that didnt have the best graphics.
IdleLeeSiuLung  +   1750d ago
"dont make me post up your history with my last bubble. the images look great it looks good enough for a "fun family" game. just so you know i enjoyed many games over the years that didnt have the best graphics."

Doesn't what you already said speak for itself? Just leave him alone to hate!
air1  +   1750d ago
yea, but someone had to sit him down... kid was on a rampage, lol...
PoSTedUP  +   1750d ago
jumping? now thats to much "gaming" for me lol i am a lazy sack, i hardly want to stand up for psMOVE let a lone jump up and rattle my weak wooden floors which is attached to my house (having more then one person jumping up at the same time would make too much rukkus and knock over china cabinets lol)

i was hoping i would only have to grab fruits off of the tree branches with my arms and maybe legs or something, that as far as i will go. this sounds like a console that is made to be played outdoors. good luck with that MS.
NastyLeftHook  +   1750d ago
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HQLocated111  +   1750d ago
Looks casual
PCnPS3Gamer  +   1750d ago
imo this game does look cool an the graphics are decent and if i was a casual id be all over this....but like seriously guys natal is so casual its not even funny. like the wii is even more hardcore....I'll always go back to my dual shock 3 but im not gunna lie its nice to play wii with your parents...tried getting my dad to play a game with ds3 and he couldnt figure out how to look around and walk at the same time with the joysticks....so if i got move i could bring it down with me and we could play golf and pool etc....you can hate on motion gaming all you want but it does have upsides...i dont prefer the move over natal or wii cause sony made it i prefer it cause it has buttons similar to the wii but way better. and i liked the wii, so im gunna love move. how many people with bad knees arent gunna be able to play natal i like to see a senior citizen jump for this raft game yeah right.

ms you should've took a hit when nintendo and sony past off on this tech 149 price tag say hi. also theres a reason sony didnt push the eyetoy as a new incredible innovation like what ms is doing cause they dont spread lies lol :p
DelbertGrady  +   1750d ago | Well said
Nice to see some confirmation that Natal games won't have to sacrifice the graphics at the expense of motion controls. The game is probably part of some kind of party pack that will come bundled with the console. Not my cup of tea so I'm hoping they show something more hardcore as well.

@Cajun Chicken - Because there's been lots of talk about Natal stealing processing power leading to an eventual compromise in the visual department. Now we at least know that pretty graphics like the ones in the screenshot will be possible.

Wow! 3 disagrees in 3 minutes. I bet you bubbled me down just for the sake of it also. :) *waves to stalkers*

edit: 5 disagrees in 6 minutes. New personal best lol. I don't see what's so offensive with my comment?
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FangBlade  +   1750d ago
Because your wrong, baka.
How can you say something stupid like "Nice to see some confirmation that Natal games won't have to sacrifice the graphics at the expense of motion controls" when it's been confirmed by many that natal is going to use 10~30% of the Xbox 360's Xenon processor.

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Bluemaster77  +   1750d ago
last i check the 360 has an competent GPU that handles all of its Graphics so that theoretical 10-30% you mentioned would be irrelevant
rob6021  +   1750d ago
I would be more worried about the budget developers will put into Natal games, considering the small user base. Cause turn 10 has a game that looks ok, doesn't mean everyone else does.
iliimaster  +   1750d ago
whats a bubble down? serious question
candystop  +   1750d ago
N4G works on a bubbles system. We are able to press the green button to help give a person more bubbles or press the red bubble to take away comment bubbles. SO basically if your losing bubbles it's because people want to silence you.
Inside_out  +   1750d ago
Hey Soda...saw the vid the other day...while all the PS3 kids were making fun of the reporter and his family having good time with Ricochet, you could clearly see the river rafting game running in the background with outstanding graphics. Unreal engine 3 is powering many of the apps we will see. Expect alot more. I think arcade games like Trial HD will offer a glimpse of what we can expect on Natal...ENJOY...The power of the 360...love this trailer...

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webeblazing  +   1750d ago
wait are you saying trail hd is 4 natal and that psn dont have good looking games
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Corepred4  +   1750d ago
really. really? really! really? outstanding graphics? lol give it a break man. i wonder if your trolling or is this really how you feel about it. i really hope your not that blind because some of your comments i think would make even MS laugh at you.
candystop  +   1750d ago
Wait a sec webeblazing! Who the heck said anything about PSN? Why are you bringing up PS in 360 news anyway? I want to see some good stuff from Sony Tuesday but I see no reason to bring it up here. Right now nobody cares about Playstation because this isn't the place for it! Get it? Got it? Good!
webeblazing  +   1750d ago
hey im trying to figure out what he saying the graphic in the game looks like any other arcade game. and this is the first time i herd about trails hd gonna be for natal and he says its the power of 360 do you even read what people write
n4gno  +   1749d ago
"the power of the 360"

lol, sure, it's better than wii.
Shaman  +   1750d ago
That mere 15% of xcpu is nothing,todays games are gpu bound,not cpu and since from cpu you can always get more performance with careful optimizing and proper planing same cant be applied on gpu,they have fixed functions.Anyway...IF MS wants Natal games to look something ala RE5 or Gears of War 2 they can make it with not much problems,only thing that remains is,is that needed for casuals?
TotalPS3Fanboy  +   1750d ago
it will be sacraficing gameplay. This game all on rail. You have no control at all. It's all QTE. You watch a video of your boat going down a river, and duck when there's a branch and jump when there's a rock. That's all.

That may be fun for the first 5 minutes. But it quickly wears off. To be successful, Natal needs to integrate into real games. Hardcore games that players will play for hours.
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bobdog626  +   1750d ago
A Very True Statement TPF
But if Natal has Hand Gesture Controls like i think they do .Its a Rap ,Sonys Move won't stand a Chance against that.
jerethdagryphon  +   1750d ago

that said, natals technolagy as it is is not suited for fps or tps which is the priome market of the 360,

simply put unless it has a list of motions that are valid for control,

there wont be animations to support the wide variety of actions people will use in a shooter.

movement will have to be either walking in place or whatever but at any rate icant see someone doing arobic excercise for hours after work.

on rails or limited motions like racing yes even scaking ican see working but the main games no nochance.

in order for it to work on a hard core game there would have to be next to no animations for combat and use live mapping (aka mocap tracking) to handle any odd movements

meaning it has to be able to do anything, from a guy picking up 2 guns in a game meant for one to spary and praying over the top of a baracade, add into that a physix system capable of dealing with multiple collisions and it starts to get out of hand.

natal will be extremly difficult to implement for mainstream games,

only rickochet has shown the any motion stuff and thats just eye toy tech with deapth..

i will how ever wait to judge until a final product is released
Nike  +   1750d ago
I checked the site, and even scoured the web looking for where the comm manager of Turn 10 said this. Came up with nothing. GamesThirst has no source on their site, no quotes, no videos, nothing to prove they spoke to him exclusively. For all you know they're just making this up to get hits, and it's sad because it looks like it'll hit front page anyway at this rate.
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Hallmark Moment  +   1750d ago
It's a -alaa- article he just threw it together to get people to flame. His goal is what you see in the first 3 comments.

-alaa- is actually one of the biggest anti Natal members on this site he's sneaky about it. Looks kind of cool for a XBLA game.

EDIT Below


Anyways you can tell it's about that time.
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LtSkittles  +   1750d ago
Alaa didn't do it unless Alaa is N4PS3G.
LtSkittles  +   1750d ago
N4PS3G always submits crap from Fernando who is a writer on on GT
ThatCanadianGuy  +   1750d ago
"Writer" is being a bit generous no? Fanboy blogger, at best.
jack_burt0n  +   1750d ago
I am not posting the vid but there is already footage of the game available.
King Hippo  +   1750d ago
Red balls, red raft, red ring of death...
iliimaster  +   1750d ago
lol ur crazy
bjornbear  +   1750d ago
and we wonder why
the 360 branding is green =/
zoks310  +   1750d ago
OH that's soooo wrong. LMAO.
Tony-A  +   1750d ago
Who didn't know this? They've had a video showing this game before. It was only for a few seconds, but you could clearly see it, anyway.
iliimaster  +   1750d ago
now this is what im talking about damn that red ball finnally somthing that pings my intrest n that actually looks fun.... but damn that 149 price i wont even touch it,... but this game looks cool... but the concern i still have hopefully will be awnsered tomarrow... which is games that dont require percision and deep games where your not just throwing up ur hand in a general area to hit somthing or just balancing on a inner tube.. ya feel me? but atleast somthin new i guess
MostJadedGamer  +   1750d ago
Are you serious? You must be joking. This garbage is no better then the Red Ball they are both casual crap with no real substance.
beavis4play  +   1750d ago
that game looks like it could be fun........
for about 60 seconds.
Gitaroo  +   1750d ago
are we suppose to be impress with the graphics?
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tiamat5  +   1750d ago
That's nice but how does it play? Who cares how it looks if it plays like @$$?
Kal1138  +   1750d ago
What else would it be? Did anyone expect a game like that to have cutscenes or something? :S
bjornbear  +   1750d ago
did someone have to clarify that? I thought it was more than evident.

it looks good because of the colours, but far from "uncanny"
Mista T  +   1750d ago
erhhhmm, eeeeeeyeah, so fun /s
(barfs in a bag)
SilverSlug  +   1750d ago
The video leak
didn't make the game look like that at all. MS and their fake screens.
SDF Repellent  +   1750d ago
People are missing the point here
Remember Wii Sports also play to the casual and look what that did for the Wii.

Seriously, all these motion control main focus is the soccer moms, kids, and your grandpa...so these easy to get into games is what both Microsoft and Sony is trying to achieve..so what do you expect?
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MostJadedGamer  +   1750d ago
Sadly thats what it looks like. I cann't believe anybody would be excited about this casual no substance garbage. if these are tye type of games we can expect from natal then it is DEAD ON ARRIVAL.
SilverSlug  +   1750d ago
Expect them to offer more than Wii
If soccer moms want to play motion games, they already got a Wii. It has 300+ motion games and most are cheaper than dirt. Why would they get a 150 dollar Natal (rumor price) and a 200 dollar console? Then still need to pay for gold for their lame child and maybe Wifi?

I mean, Xbox Live is for hardcore gamers, 360 has been delivering hardcore games and now its all casual?
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SDF Repellent  +   1750d ago
Tell me something...
" soccer moms want to play motion games, they already got a Wii. It has 300+ motion games and most are cheaper than dirt. Why would they get a 150 dollar Natal (rumor price) and a 200 dollar console? Then still need to pay for gold for their lame child and maybe Wifi?"

Why do you need to pay for gold and need wii fi to play casual games with a family of 4???

You are so lost man...I wanted to coment but I can't because you are so lost with curret trend and reality.

EDIT: "You are the controller" Try to say that with the Wiimote. That in itself is a new experience.
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webeblazing  +   1750d ago
its too much work tho the same reason most people didnt like eyetoy. cant wait to see what else they got cause its lookin like a rerun. im all for motion controls as long as it has good games and i dont have to move around too much, that one of the reason i like mario galaxy
crapgamer  +   1750d ago
It's looking good
We all know it cant touch Sony though, they are our new lords and masters.(sarcasm) I find it funny that people making idiotic pro Sony comments get agreed with, no matter how idiotic they are. While people making pro Xbox 360 comments get disagreed with, no matter how much they might make sense.

I like the graphics and I'm guessing it's a wii resort type of game. That "Red ball" game might just be a tech demo and people are treating it like it's going to be the only thing out there....it's just to demo things people, calm down.

Clearly the PS3 fans are a bit worried and with good reason. No "fanboy logic" is going to help when Microsoft hits that stage and we get the good. Slim 360, price drop, bundles, games, portable XBox etc... Third place is looking good on Sony. They better hope Sega don't get back in the console market......or better yet where is this Onlive stuff at? Could give Sony a run for it's money.
PS360PCROCKS  +   1750d ago
Yeah coming from a guy who has 1 bubble and didn't know what the world cup was. Yeah you obviously have a lot of credibility (sarcasm). Yes Sony is running for the hills and all PS3 fans are crying in the corners of their respective rooms in horror of what Microsoft will unveil. My god, you're completely unintelligent. The sad thing is 3 delusional people agreed with you.
spooky205  +   1750d ago
no fanboy logic is going to help when the xbox division
gets all the baclash from hardcore gamers because MS are focusing on a casual level when their money makers are hardcore gamers. The people who bought the 360 as a casual console are the minority and game sales prove that. Now MS feels the need to use money better suited for aquiring exclusives on a casual device. Show me how i am going to turn around, shoot, take cover, melee, cycle weapons, climb, run walk, activate items such as turrets or puzzle elements, pause the game, or a variety of complex actions that we need to play a hardcore game. Crap i just sneezed and natal thought i wanted to break from cover and run towards a wall of enemies. I own a 360. This isnt what i bought it for.
n4gno  +   1749d ago
Crapgamer try to win the best (blind delusional in denial) fan's medal.

Try hard crappygamer, some others fans in cry baby mode want to steal your title.

so desperate (less exclusives, less greats games, less functionality, no bluray, no 3D, and now eye toy + vs move, the perfect wiimote)
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Hazmat13  +   1750d ago
it looks kinda silly but eh lets see how it turns out.
Apocalypse Shadow  +   1750d ago
it might end up being a fun game.
but let's not kid ourselves.this game and many more games like the painting game and ricochet game,are unreal engine type games.no graphics power whatsoever.

microsoft as usual,will go cheap when it comes to graphics.spend little on MAKING GAMES.and put more money in MARKETING GAMES.that's just their way of doing things.hyping average product to be more than it is.

they pretty much lost the war on graphics.which is why the fans started talking about gameplay.course when gears 1 came out,it was all about graphics.not anymore.even exclusive engines on 360 that weren't unreal engine was massacred by sony exclusives.remember when alan wake was touted as the graphics king?...well.....that didn't work out either.as well as the 4X the polygons in forza.course,that was before the race began.

microsoft and third parties will ride the wave out to sunset for 360 with average games hyped for,hopefully,large profits.while sony will continue on making the best looking games that not only do motion control without a graphics hit,but 3D as well.

but hey,at least natal will control your GUI right?it's the only cool thing about it.
niceguywii60  +   1750d ago
Dear god are we going to get unwanted analysis about every detail from the Sony camp in every Natal announcement?

*you have to jump
*that leaf didn't move right
*how come you don't have to tie their shows
*I was expecting more graphically
*was that a real screenshot

I don't understand. there were people thinking what was shown already wasn't real time? Who cares it's a Arcade game. Looks like a blast for a family with young kids.
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dizzleK  +   1750d ago
i found footage of one of the mini-games, i hope this is rated M because it's called "when rafting trips go wrong"


it'll be cool with the voice recognition technology.
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PS360PCROCKS  +   1750d ago
Looks really good. I like it
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8thnightvolley  +   1750d ago
hoops  +   1750d ago
Even when MS shows games other than that Red Ball game, the Sony clan still bash it.
Regardless of what game Natal shows, the haters will hate it fully. They can end up showing Crysis 2 in full 1080p using Natal and the haters will still say it sucks.
Buch of 12 year olds on this site...they are not gamers just haters
candystop  +   1750d ago
I really hope this game is fun because I want a Wave Racer killer.
Bluemaster77  +   1750d ago
I didnt know this games visuals were even under debate , i dont really consider it all that worthy it looks decent enough
cmacdonald  +   1750d ago
I really hope nobody living above me buys natal as all this jumping will cause evictions.
tiamat5  +   1750d ago
Why are you getting so worked up over a picture? You haven't even seen what is the goal of the game, how it plays, if to works properly or anything. The reason why we doubt the Natal is that Sony has already proven that Move works and works pretty well but Mircosoft as usual is all talk and no proof, yet 360 owners are still excited over practically nothing but empty promises so far. Try to hold it in until we see something concrete. You really shouldn't let Mircosoft lead you around by the nose like this.
Brklynty1  +   1750d ago
Lmao Youtube moment confirmed!
John: "ok everyone jump now!"

*All but 1 person jumps on time, boat flips over*

John:" WTF Ray! Why didn't you jump!"

Ray: "I did you cow's utter! This damn thing has to much lag!"

John:" No it doesn't Microsoft said there's no lag, so that's the truth! You just suck!"

Ray:" You suck! You fantastic dickface!"

*fight breaks out in the living room, Natal is tracking the fight on screen and the avatars look like their doing Flash Dance*

Rachel : "BERRY TO MINT!!!"
Redempteur  +   1750d ago
ok i'll say it :

still not intrested i'm expecting more from my games ...
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