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Killzone 3 seems to use MLAA according to Digital Foundry

According to the latest tweet from Digital Foundry, Killzone 3 seems to use MLAA anti-aliasing like God of War III or LBP2. Quite a feat !

Additional tweet confirms it:
http://twitter.com/digital_...

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ClownBelt2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

WTF does that mean?

Not like a big deal to me since I don't have the ability to figure out 60 fps to 30 fps. Hell, I couldn't even figure out if there's a screen tear on a game...sigh

Edit. Thanks for the explanation guys. Appreciate it.

Optical_Matrix2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

Notice how God of War III had practically 0 jaggies. Well, MLAA is exactly why.
As Foxx says below. I'm surprised at how damn good the pre-alpha code is looking. It already looks much better than KZ2. Can't wait to see more in depth gameplay videos next week. Bring on E3!

DORMIN2686d ago

Can't wait! Really nice to hear LBP2 is using it as well. I hope all of Sony's first party titles will be using it eventually.

I think they should give the code to the third parties making exclusives for the PS3 as well.

AKS2686d ago

I thought LBP2 was using more than just improved lighting. I suspected improved AA from the images I'd seen, but I hadn't seen anyone confirm it. I expect to see MLAA in quite a few titles in the future.

Strange_Evil2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

^^^^ LBP2 is using MLAA as confirmed by Digital Foundry...

http://n4g.com/news/542164/...

Not only that, but all the previous levels of LBP1 which will be importable will also get MLAA upgrade.

BattleAxe2686d ago

I wonder why the heck Socom 4 isn't using it.

deafwing2686d ago

... the team making socom didn't consider/know how to implement it ... perhaps?

badz1492686d ago

bye bye jaggies? AWESOME!

rob60212686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

Where did Zipper/anyone say Socom 4 wasn't using MLAA?

BattleAxe2686d ago

@ Rob,

Unfortunately when you watch the latest Socom trailer, there are jaggies everywhere. I'm hoping that Socom4 turns out to be a legendary game, but only time will tell what kind of quality goes into the game.

Denethor_II2685d ago (Edited 2685d ago )

Don't forget this game is also 3D!

sikbeta2685d ago

KZ3 is Getting Better and Better Day after Day, KZ3 Will Blow Up Everything, Definitely DAY ONE!!!

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MerkinMax2686d ago

It's a new type of anti-aliasing technique that's starting to be used. If you played GOW 3 you would know how good it looks.

morganfell2686d ago

Now you know why he is mystified.

WetN00dle692686d ago

GOW3 looks beautiful and thanks to MLAA jaggies are non-existent.

k jules2686d ago

MLAA has been around for quite a few years, it's not new. The PS3 is the first console to use it

Heaven_Or_Hell2686d ago

It's an anti-aliasing method running only on SPUs (from the CELL if you don't know what it is). Quite efficient and plus it frees the GPU for others task since anti-aliasing demands heavy ressources most the times.

PirateThom2686d ago

Our next hope is they work out the depth of field effects that Santa Monica were using, there's some insane depth in parts of God of War III.

Microsoft Xbox 3602686d ago

Santa Monica are talented devs. The part after the first fight with Zeus was amazing. Jaw dropping galore.

-Ikon-2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

BTW MLAA IS PS3 ONLY PLAY B3YOND

EDIT : YIKES 60 FPS TOO

Downtown boogey2686d ago

Of course since it's 30 in 3D

hesido2686d ago

The video is.. (59.something)

beavis4play2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

i won't be worrying about 3D until i get a new tv in a few years.

the game is looking really amazing! the melee combat is looking very visceral and completely awesome!

PirosThe4th2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

If they want to get the game running at 30 fps in 3D mode with no quality or graphics downgrade...
They first have to get running the normal build of the game in 60fps and that is why they mentioned that, just think about it...

That was in-game engine running the game at 60fps. We all know that killzone2 one only used 60% of PS3 anything is possible!

EDIT: So it was 30fps dammit... ignore my theory... xD

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Sunny_D2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

It's a new form of anti aliasing technology created by Santa Monica studios that allow virtually zero jaggies and keep it at the level of 16x AA I believe? GG are using this tech to eliminate any jaggies that may be in the game. That's how we were able to get a round head for Kratos.:D

Edit: I see. But damn! Also, video was captured at 60 FPS, the game is still 30FPS.
http://twitter.com/Digital_...

Heaven_Or_Hell2686d ago

The Saboteur was the first game to use it on the PS3, so Santa Monica did not create it, from what I remember it was created by Intel. However SM perfected it on GoWIII since they were some artifacts on the The Saboteur version.

morganfell2686d ago

Correct. Santa Monica picked up on it from EA. And to be clear, it is the PS3 version of Saboteur that uses it. A shame that has to be mentioned but there you go.

raztad2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

I'm gonna use my last bubble to try to make this clear.

The Saboteur DOESNT use MLAA. After initially claiming TS was using MLAA, DF was corrected by a GoW3 devel

"Firstly, the definition of MLAA isn't in keeping with the basic outline of the technique as it has been described by some Pandemic staff, and it is almost certainly an extension of the edge-filter plus blur technique seen in several cross-platform titles already. As Christer says, "the qualitative difference comes down to how you edge-detect and how you 'blur'." "

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

GoW3 is the first game using this tech, SSM didnt take anything from EA. They came up with the implementation and the whole optimization process to make it run better (and much faster) than 4xMSAA.

tinybigman2686d ago

Morphological Antialiasing paper by Alexander Reshetov from Intel Labs
http://visual-computing.int...

i don't think SSM created

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bjornbear2686d ago

but from what I've gathered over countless MLAA articles vs MSAA is that basically

MLAA is one reason why PS3 is a beast =P teh cell -_-

DaTruth2685d ago

XDR ram also has a lot to do with that!

Cloudberry2686d ago

I want JRPGs to use Killzone / Uncharted / God Of War 3 graphic engine.........

Maaan, that would be sick, in my opinion.........

NecrumSlavery2686d ago

@ Cloud

that's the promise of what the WHITE Engine will show on PS3 with FFversusXIII. If it goes multiplat, it'll utilize a different engine. So fingers crossed for exclusive on this one. Square promises you won't be able to tell the CGI segments from the actual gameplay...or so try say

popup2686d ago

It would be the icing on the cake for GT5 to use it too. I really hope PD are aware of this technique.

PS360PCROCKS2686d ago

Agrees for everyone! Haha MLAA is so awesome, GOW III is incredible

Boody-Bandit2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

or using smoke and mirrors to make it look and run good.
All I know is the KZ3 footage blew me away! I know most PS3 fans will agree with that but I mean people, seriously look at all that is going on in that footage at once and the animation from the characters is incredible to boot. This game flat out blows my mind. KZ2, UC2, GOW3, MGS4, GTP, etc and so on are all amazing in their own right. For me it's hard to say which PS3 exclusive I think looks best over all but I would put KZ2, US2 and GOW3 in my top 3 list.

With all that said, I honestly believe KZ3 will be the new bench mark in visuals when it's released. It's simply mind blowing crazy how Sony devs continually raise the bar with each new game from them. Whether it's a sequel or brand new IP. I can't wait to see what they have in store for us a couple years from now!

Do I sound a little bit excited for KZ3? ;)

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Hanif-8762686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

No wonder the game didn't look blurry. MLAA should be the standard Anti-Aliasing incorporated in every PS3 title. However, i might of failed to mention how amazing the graphics looked on Killzone 3 gameplay trailer but best of all the cover and melee system what caught my attention the animations are crazy!

beavis4play2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

agreed. the melee animations are insane!!

Bodyboarder_VGamer2686d ago

Killzone 3 runs at 60fps and 720p with MLAA?!!! No Way! That's too impressive to be true cuz you know, the untouchable CryEngine3 only does 2xAA at 30fps on consoles and it doesn't even has half the lighting source as Killzone 2.

This new info pretty much confirm that Crysis 2 will not be the best looking game on consoles. lol

hesido2686d ago

How I wish Kz3 was 60fps. It is dare I say, impossible to have such visuals at 60fps, unfortunately.

Twitter mentions performance is similar to Kz2. (Although Kz3 will feature several rendering improvements and bigger levels, so that's where the hard work goes..)

beavis4play2686d ago

because it wouldn't. 60fps is NOT necessary for 1st-person games.

COD games run in 60 fps and they don't COME CLOSE to the beauty of KZ2/3.

hesido2684d ago (Edited 2684d ago )

I don't say 60fps is necessary. I have enjoyed killzone 2 (30fps), BFBC2 (30fps). But they would look stunning if they could have the same graphics at 60fps, which is not possible. That's all I said. 60fps allows for a very responsive feel, and things look great in motion, so still shots or 30 fps promo videos can never do them justice.

That said, COD's look quite good compared to 60fps games, and they look better than several 30fps games.

Bodyboarder_VGamer2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

Play Call of Duty and then another shooter like Resistance or whatever... The difference's pretty huge.

For screentearing the first Uncharted is a good example. The game was good and everything but the constant screentearing was a big problem.

inveni02686d ago

I never noticed screen tearing. If it was a "big problem", I would have noticed.

Mr Vengeance2686d ago

If you would like see screentearing Assassins creed takes the cake also Heavenly sword is a good one also.

MRMagoo1232686d ago

no u all have it wrong put in lego starwars the complete saga theres some perfect examples of screen tearing in that you get it nearly none stop from start to finish.

PirosThe4th2686d ago

Uncharted one Only screen teared in a couple of levels because each ones used different post processing effects.

The only level I notice any screen tearing is the first time you are in the jungle with Sully and that was it ...

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D4RkNIKON2686d ago

Bungie could use this to make Reach Jaggie free, but they wont so.. Jaggie party over there

Persistantthug2685d ago

MLAA, from what I understand, is a type post processing AA effect done through the CPU. Because the CELL PROCESSOR was designed to graphics render and graphics process by itself, MLAA is best suited there and probably not for XBOX 360's Xenon CPU.

In other words, MLAA is probably not possible on the XBOX 360.

If anyone with super advanced game programing acumen wishes to chime in, please do.

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Jamie Foxx2686d ago

is absolutely insane,scary to think how graphically insane the final code will be...

CoxMulder2686d ago

Indeed, but I wouldn't expect the same graphical jump Killzone 2 made from alpha to gold.

While developing Killzone 2 they were still building the engine, causing those insane graphical leaps.

With Killzone 3 the engine is largely in place and will only be optimized/perfected.

vhero2686d ago

Madness ain't it? 360 looks great but it really cannot compare to PS3 power. It really has hidden talents like MLAA that 360 just cannot do..

cyborg69712686d ago

No doubt. Only fanboys who are in denile would say otherwise.

hoops2686d ago

The Xbox360 can do MLAA. Its a Anti Alaising Technique that uses a CPU and not a GPU. The Xbox360 has a CPU so it can be used. The only thing is the Xenos would crawl using MLAA as the Cell is more strucutured to handle it.

MRMagoo1232686d ago

the 360 in general crawls doing anything so thats to be expected

Ri0tSquad2686d ago (Edited 2686d ago )

KZ2 used a different type of AA (I forgot what it's called), which made it look blurry at times. A lot of PS3 multiplat games use it which gives it the effect that it looks blurrier then its counterpart. I'm glad PS3 devs are moving away from this and using MLAA instead.

Heaven_Or_Hell2686d ago

It used Quinqux, which indeed blur the whole image and the texture with it.

Sevir042686d ago

plus all the other stuff going on. It's going to be a beast. MLAA at x2 is equivalent 4xAA MSAA i've read so this is pretty good. i'm glad this solution is being used on the PS3. it seems all the new PS3 games made by the Sony stable is finding new tech to propel their games and engines into the stratusphere!!!

evrfighter2686d ago

depends on how much MLAA is applied.

it's not a one size fits all. MLAA can be the same as AAx2 if they decide that's the route they are going to go. It's all up to the developer.

Greek God2686d ago

killzone 3 will be stunning