George W. Bush has been spotted in the concept art for Deus Ex: Human Revolution, and as you can see from the image, the boys are Eidos aren't fans.
I wonder if Master Chief is wanted for Mass Murder too because he kills LOTS of covenant..
Lol greenring that was pretty poor form
Maybe they should have posters for everyone who voted for him. And posters for Obama, as he hasn't ended the war as soon as he promised and tensions and death have continued because of it.
GreenRingOfLife: Great! Now are you no longer just a fanboy but also a guy with a baaaaad sense of humor!
deus ex based on true story loool
greenringoflife sorry but that is the most retarded comment i have ever seen
how is it shocking in a video game
I wonder if these retards want Obama tried for mass murder since he has continued Bush's policies and in fact has even strengthened the wars with more troops and more attacks. Hypocrites.
Yeah you're right, the guy who came into office and had to try and fix what G.W f-ed up is way worse, I mean it's not like G.W went against the senate ruling and went to war without government opproval...oh wait and it's not like he and his father have major stakes in weapon manufacturing companies that supply the U.S with arms and he profited from the war....oh wait It's not like G.W came from a family that preached "new world order" and openly spoke of a 1 world government with the U.S at the helm...oh wait. Just wait and see, the only reason the U.S is in Haiti is because they want Venuselan oil, they will be next. P.S the health care reform is a good thing, welcome to the 21st century, we here in AUS have been enjoying it for quite some time. Pro tip: the standard of living in aus is also much better in terms of life expectany as well as income/living costs...it didn't sent us into chaos and it won't do to the U.S either
Well, Bush and his regime did try to trick the world that Iraq had nuclear weapons when in fact it didn't. I mean, so many people saw through that it's not even funny. Since when would America attack a country with nuclear weapons. That would be not just silly, but suicidal. Otherwise, they'd be attacking North Korea and Iran by now. But it's obvious why Bush did what he did. For the benefit of America's oil and arms industry. And it's hypocritical of them to own nuclear weapons and not allow other nations, that are not allies, to not own them.
G.W snr..aka satan http://www.youtube.com/watc... Mujahideeen, now known as the Taliban "Under Reagan, U.S. support for the mujahideen evolved into an official U.S. foreign policy, known as the Reagan Doctrine, which included U.S. support for anti-Soviet movements in Afghanistan, Angola, Nicaragua, and elsewhere. Ronald Reagan praised mujahideen as "freedom fighters"." In other words, they were funded and trained to commit acts on behalf of the U.S "off the books". Zack de la Rocha regarding Noam Chomsky's thoughts on the matter: "A good friend of ours once said that if the same laws were applied to U.S. presidents as were applied to the Nazis after World War II […] every single one of them, every last rich white one of them from Truman on, would have been hung to death and shot—and this current administration is no exception. They should be hung, and tried, and shot. As any war criminal should be. But the challenges that we face, they go way beyond administrations, way beyond elections, way beyond every four years of pulling levers, way beyond that. Because this whole rotten system has become so vicious and cruel that in order to sustain itself, it needs to destroy entire countries and profit from their reconstruction in order to survive—and that's not a system that changes every four years, it's a system that we have to break down, generation after generation after generation after generation after generation…Wake up" Did you also know that simulations were run regarding the exact things that occured on 9/11...and that in those simulated tests they had a 100% success rate of stopping the planes while avoiding any civilial casualties... funny that no alarm bells went off that day... even funnier that the supposed terrorists were identified by passports that supposedly survived the inferno...you saw the building right?...yeah well apparently out of that wreckage...the terrorists passports remained intact...yeah nothing suss at all going on there. and all those scientists and architects that deduced that from the distance the planes had travelled there would have been no where near enough fuel to produce the heat recorded at the crash site, or the collapse of the buildings... nope it was definitely a terrorist act... lets go get the supposed AFGHAN terrorists in Iraq...wait a minute...aren't they like 2 different countries...now i'm really confused http://i.imgur.com/3i2bQ.jp...
Mr.Bush has blood of manny innocent people on his hands, but I know yank, it's just collateral damage tsk tsk
Flawed logic is flawed
Well it's true, he did murder thousands of innocent people in Iraq & Afghanistan.
Yes, in terms of the collateral damage that his presidency caused, thousands of innocent people died. That is irrefutable. Remember that Eidos is a European developer, and Europeans are notorious social liberals. I'm hardly surprised at this tidbit, to be honest. That being said, this particular poster probably won't make it into the game; Eidos can't afford to alienate any players (they need all the money they can get...)
Is your interpretation, nothing more. Neither proven factual, but merely convenient. That is what's really irrefutable. As for your note on Eidos. Not much to argue about there, you are right. Either way, let's enjoy the future game shall we?
not on purpose
I don't want politics into my games. Devs should take their propaganda elsewhere, even if I agree that Bush is a murderer.
@bootsielon While we're at it let's take politics out of books, movies and music right? Because i'm sure some people don't want it in those either. Please, politics can be in games all it wants. Gaming has to evolve, stop treating it like some random way to pass the time and let it mature into a respected medium of art and opinion.
dues ex's storyline revolves around politics though, it always has :/ what you mean is you don't want people pushing their political agenda in games which I agree with you 100% on that
@bootsielon I thin k you should welcome it in games. It helps to create a sense of believability when there are things that the player can relate to. Also, this seams to be an effective tactic seeing as how we're all here debating politics on a gaming website.
Now that is original </sarcasm>
"Not on purpose......" WTF guy is a war criminal and set back the UN by 50 fuking yrs there is no defending that, mass murder is mass murder.
The UN has got to be the weakest world organization in the world. I'm not going to get into the Bush talk here, but let me give you a little dialog that you may come across between the UN and a terrorist group or a nation like Iran. Iran: "We have developed nuclear capabilities." UN: "You are not allowed to do that. According to so and so line of the Geneva Convention, you were supposed to go through proper protocol before you even began researching nuclear weapons." Iran: "So?" UN: "We will administer sanctions against you." Iran: "We don't care." UN: "Well, uh, we will write strongly worded letters and stuff." Iran: "Okay." And that's pretty much how the UN operates.
The UN is a pretty weak organization.
@SOAD- Of course the U.N. is weak - it's biannual budget consists of less than $4 billion (in other words, pocket change). The organization is undermined left and right by powerful nations. However, without the U.N. there would be no semblance of international order. The ICC would be nonexistent, and LDCs would be dominated by their industrialized cousins. It would be, essentially, anarchy. And don't forget that the U.N. has not been entirely useless during conflicts. They were very active, along with Belgian paratroopers, in stopping the Rwanda crisis before it spread to Uganda.
How the UN operates is how the US dictates. How else would the only nation to ever use nuclear weapons to kill be allowed to tell another country whether they can use them or not? Common sense doesn't seem to bode well with you.
UN is weak because they immediately make sanctions against Iran when America wants it but when Israel continues to ethnically clean out the palestinians, or massacre peace activists on a boat, they can't even get an independent investigation to go through.
"There's an ethnic cleansing going on in Darfur where around 200 000 - 300 000 innocnet people have been raped, maimed and burnt alive. They don't have any natural resources we can exploit but people are getting slaughtered daily." The US - *crickets* The UN - *crickets* "We have no business in Iraq but they have lots of natural resources we can take control of and exploit. If we manufacture a story about them having nukes we can spend tons of money and have the poor and educated people in our country sacrifice their lives for the well-being of the more fortunate." The US - F*ck yeah! The UN - *crickets*
wow you're an idiot
better them than us. i mean did you want more 9/11 attacks?
No point in reading anymore than this...
50,000 to 100,000 civilians were killed due to a war that accomplished nothing
lol at the disagrees. "CNN and Fox told me it was for the best!!!" lets just keep killing people and spending more and more money we don't have on another country.
and MSNBC does not do the same for the otherside. edit disagrees, so MSNBC are not biased like the other networks are.
I promise you this. George Bush made a whole lot of money out of these on-going wars. The Bush family are a scurge on this planet.
not to mention the billions of dollars spent and wasted Iraq was one of the worst foreign policy mistakes in modern history. Afghanistan on the other hand is not. The mistake there has been not to commit to that war like we want to win it. I say we as an Australian. Our country, NATO and the US need to actually commit to a strategy of winning through properly resourcing the military to fight. We have chronically under resourced that war and then wonder why it drags on so long.
Personal feelings about politics should be kept out of videogames.
Why? If the developers want to put it in their game it's their choice, and you have no right to say otherwise. Makes no difference whether it's a game, movie, book etc.
I play videogames to escape the crap of reality. The constant debates that will never end and the fact that we are always hurting each other's feelings are major reasons why I play games, man. I understand that it is fully within the developer's rights to incorporate their own opinions about real world issues into their games, but it defeats the purpose for someone like me to play that game. Can't we all just get along and shoot aliens and shit?
@SOAD- That is a stupid argument. If you want to 'escape' reality, then simply don't take political commentary in games at face value. The political commentary in Bioshock, GTA IV, and yes, Deus Ex made for a unique experience, and I think the games were better as a result.
It's a claim, not an argument. This is exactly why I play games. I say something and people assume I'm getting into an argument. I feel like the victor now (of this non-existent argument) because I feel you have proved my point.
Putting personal feelings about politics into games is unnecessary and should not be done. I don't care about the developers' feelings about politics, I just want to play a good game. If they put it in there, then I'll just skip all their games they have made. I have no problem doing this because I do this all the time with other forms of media.
They make the game. They can put whatever the fuck they want into it. If you don't like it; don't buy it.
I couldn't have said it better myself
Is anyone else tired of Bush hate? Come on guys the man is not president anymore and is practically in exile. I got tired of it when someone actually made a movie about assassinating him. edit regarding the disagrees for my first comment, do some of you really belive bush realy did it on purpose? Because if you do you have problems. Do you hate Bush that much? below all presidents walk out richer and obama knew he had problems to deal with if he became president wile running for president. Its stupid to constantly ridicule a man who who has little say on what happens now. Get over hating Bush and look toward the problems and ways to solve them
yeah youre right. he walked out richer and had obama inherit a mess. lets pity him.
According to Liberals/Progressives, Conservatives are murderers filled with hate speech. Especially Christian Conservatives that believe in low taxes and Jesus Christ.
Jeez, first Obama in that Tag Team whoomp there it is video and now this.
And if said 'War' continued,even now without G.Bush......... And if all guarantees were somehow less legitimate given by other men in the same position?
Leave politics out of my games please. Or I wont by them. I'm going to go against this and say that I liked Bush. He's not a murderer at all. Eidos you're insane. @ Living Legend. I guess I should rephrase. Not politics, but political hate mongering. Do you really want to play the next Call of Duty and see OBAMA SUCKS! plastered all over the walls, then play Bad Company 3 to see NO BUSH SUCKED MORE! plastered on some wall in response. It's just not something you would do if you want people to like the game.
Facts are facts. There are corpses scattered over this globe because of this souless b*stard. As for politict in games. Politics is a part of life. If you don't like it then close. All your windows & doors & keep your tv switched off.
but by your post we all know who the moron is, and well it's not beasley, it's you.
I see you forgot the reason why he invaded the middle east in the first place Baby Jedi. I bet you were all for supporting him about 9 years ago. Also, if it is political themes, where the player is challenged in an intelligent way to consider any political view. I am fine with that, in fact I like games like that. But if it's tasteless BS like screaming George Bush is a murderer like your some New Age Hippy, then no, sorry, I wont buy your game. Good luck getting a respectable fanbase too.
Where are they? Hey are you still looking? Well theyare not there.
The US knew he had WMD's because they had all the receipts! It was America and Europe that supplied the guy when he was waging his war against Iran. If you go back and look at the reports of the UN weapons inspectors it looks like Iraq had largely disarmed, like they were supposed to after the Gulf War, however they still threw up barricades for the UN weapons inspectors which right there was a violation of the cease fire from the end of the Gulf War. This is the same Iraqi regime that started a war that was responsible for killing a million people, used chemical weapons on it's own people invaded neighboring countries. The UN's weapons inspectors found plenty of weapons, but they had been destroyed or in some cases were no longer a threat, but the second Iraq started defying the UN's rules around the cease fire (and remember, the Gulf War was UN sanctioned in the first place) they had every right to go in there and remove that murderous regime. But by that point the UN didn't have the stomach for it (or more likely was getting too rich off the oil for food fiasco). Whenever I hear that "Where were the WMD's" it just shows someone who doesn't know his history. There were plenty of WMD's. Saddam simply stopped stockpiling them in the early 90's. It doesn't change the fact that he then continued to breach multiple UN resolutions. While I'm not a Bush supporter myself, I still can't help but notice that revisionist history and Bush bashing generally go hand in hand.
@beasley, that actually sounds pretty funny.
In games.Hate to break it to you but......this isn't the first time and certainly not the last.
That is just a little pathetic. Just a little. /s Very pathetic and no need.
I already loved the trailer for this game but day 1 purchase for me now, no matter what!
That what this game should be used as douchebag Ex Or maybe as a liner for kitty litter
Aron Greenburg should be wanted for douchebaggery
No.I dont. I agree and I agree.For what it's worth,I do not always agree with the mixing of games/politics,Keep it subtle,im fine with it.
He ain't hard to find. He's laying in bin ladens cave wearing a haliburton t-shirt right beside dick cheney with your paycheck in his hand.
Wow what a surprise another bush bashing. someone must really miss him not being President anymore
games are games,leave real life out of 'em.
like mgs cos it looks real uncharted gt5 lbp it got real physic.if so game would get boring.i like games for what they are not for what u want them to be.the devs have the right to put anything they want into there game.
looking real and being real two different things