Cliff B Responds To “Japan Can’t Keep Up” Quote & Flamewar Journalists, Apologies Follow

Ripten shares their opinion on the Cliff Bleszinski quote debacle, what was implied by CVG, Cliff's responses on Twitter, flamewar journalism, the apologies issued by CVG and Xbox World Mag, and what we could all stand to learn from the ordeal.

[DA_SHREDDER]

Its so ironic Cliffy B, isnt it? Its only okay to flame when its not your game they are talking about, huh little Cliff?

[deadreckoning666]

Ummm....yea. Why would he talk crap about his own game? Common sense much? And please..try actually reading the article. The only crime Cliffy B committed was being misquoted.

"I would have to say Cliffy B can't keep up cause he uses that outdated UE3"

You mean the outdated UE3 engine that was behind Gears of War...the most successful new IP this generation. Trust me, I think he's keeping up just fine :P

[cayal]

Gears of War is no where near close to being the most successful new IP

[Bnet343]

Didn't Gears 1 and 2 each sell 5 million copies? I can't think of a new IP that did that this generation. So I would say dead is right.

[ShinMaster]

"Successful" doesn't mean anything. The engine is still outdated.
I've seen plenty of flat 2D effects like fire and textures.
http://img14.imageshack.us/...

[KongRudi]

Not that I have the numbers ahead of me right now, but I believe Assasins Creed, might be a more sucesfull new IP this generation, if we're looking at PS3/360 atleast.

If we include Wii in this generation, there is a few new japaneese Wii-titles wich is much more sucesfull aswell..

However, Gears-franchise might be the most sucesfull new IP wich is exclusive to the 360.

[Boody-Bandit]

You are saying sales equal quality and success.
I think Uncharted, Mass Effect and Assassin's Creed are all better than the Gears of War series. Gears of War was a fantastic game but the sequel, IMHO, was a mess online and the single player felt rushed. It didn't really have an ending.

Without question my favorite new franchise this generation is Uncharted and I would give most improved sequel to Assassin's Creed II with Uncharted 2 a very close second.

I mean if you are going to go strictly by sales than Wii Fit and Wii Sports are the best new IP's this generation. See how pointless sales are?

Seriously. I am not trying to be a jerk here but the whole sales = anything but popularity and good marketing is just pure nonsense. I mean look at how many great new IP's we had this generation already. It's all just a matter of individual preference and opinion.

I mean I really enjoyed Bioshock, Infamous, Little Big Planet, Heavenly Sword, Crackdown, the ones I mentioned above, and so many others I cant even remember now. 1 of my favorite games to start this generation was Kameo. I want a sequel to that game in a bad way. I love platform titles.

How can anyone simply say game X = best new IP this generation? What you feel is the best others wont. Does that mean you, I or they are wrong? Some of my favorite games this generation were rated below 9/90 and a couple barely hit the 8/80 mark overall.

So no deadreckoning isn't right merely based on sales. If sales were the case Wii games would be the best this generation, period.

[Mista T]

I would have to say Cliffy B can't keep up cause he uses that outdated UE3

[Alcon Caper]

Oh look someone who made the first post who didn't read the article. Next time read the article, so everyone doesn't think you're worthless.

[Coffin87]

rofl

[Bnet343]

He didn't flame anyone or anything. Some jackass made up it up. Learn to read articles next time.

[ClownBelt]

And this is the main reason why I said the media is one of the biggest problem in the industry. It's not about honest journalism. It's all about getting hits and getting popular nowadays.

[FrankDaTank]

this serves as a good example of what can happen if media continues down that path.

[FanboyAttack]

Cliff handles it pretty well though

[FrankDaTank]

agreed userthree. and its nice to see that the outlets have already apologized to him.

[Alcon Caper]

This happens too often, though. A simple apology after the fact doesn't completely repair the libel CVG has wrought on this guy's reputation.

There should be penalties... ...maybe the "journalist" who wrote the article will get fired...

[dragonelite]

nah they already damaged their reputation with their shitty ass recycling news with taken out of context quotes.

So a lot of websites do it eurogamer for examples place news article with selective quotes of a interview they posted some days before.
I could remember a lot of Halo:Reach quotes and stuff.

[deafwing]

... the thing is to is that consumers don't make it any better. More than enough times, I've seen, readers will just take the title of an article and run with it. "Man, jumps to the moon, declares Gaming Irrelevant!" for example. Imagine the uproar.

Writers will give their articles flamboyant titles to garner attention but the contents of the article itself tend to read otherwise. Writers bold enough, like the CVG one, will sometimes flat out put words in people's mouths. A boycott of this location is all that is needed.

[FrankDaTank]

in fairness alan, cvg was quoting a source which admitted a misquote of their own. still, the way cvg arranged the quotes and what they said leading up to them is misleading. so in that regard, i agree with you.

[dirigiblebill]

"It's all about getting hits and getting popular nowadays."

I know, imagine the nerve - a mass media outlet publishing articles to attract readers.

[FrankDaTank]

I understand the sarcasm in what you are saying, but they still should be held responsible for maintaining a standard of accuracy in what they write.

[dirigiblebill]

True :)

[Cutter20]

Love that image. I'm going to hang that on my ceiling over my bed.

[R2D2]

Iron Cliffy FTW.

[kaos_fish II]

whatever floats your boat dude - but that's creepy - ugh, having that thing stare down on you..

[Panzerkanzler]

You do that, but remember to keep your hands ABOVE your blanket.

[webeblazing]

dont forget the lotion lmao

[tplarkin7]

Cut Cliff from the image and paste onto a mirror. But, put Cliff off to the side. So, when you wake up every morning, it's like waking up with Cliff at your side.

[Nostradavis]

Doesn't everyone already have a Cliff cut-out? Isn't that who Marcus Fenix is modeled after?

[DA_SHREDDER]

I agree with you clownbelt. But its not just hits they are after, they really do try to sabotage games, especially if they are ps3 exclusives.

[shaunhinklein]

Torn.
Cliff took action, but was it the right course of action? Did he really resolve anything? I think this is one of many scenarios that'll trickle away with time.

[FanboyAttack]

They issued an apology to him already.

[Nostradavis]

They did. I think what CVG said seemed well put but the "production error excuse" given by Xbox World Mag seemed a bit lacking.

[The Wood]

This Is Media

90% manipulation 10% fact

[webeblazing]

white america

[Spydr07]

I don't see how race has anything to do with the manipulation of facts. I didn't know all races other than whites (American whites, at that) were incapable of manipulating factual information. This is a trend amongst all peoples of the world and limited to none.

[Sandwich Bender]

What Cliff should have said was "pew pew pew." That image is awesome. And if he is sporting a fully functioning Iron Man suit, I think he can say what he wants about tech.

[FanboyAttack]

Great photoshop job

[CrzyFooL]

Ripten does the best lolphotoshopping. Period.

[Drjft]

This. Is. TRUE!

[jack_burt0n]

ahhhhhhhh the power of N4G, a nuclear powered media weapon in the hands of imbeciles! lmao my self included :P

[webeblazing]

dur dur dur wha diz buutton doo duur dur

[RageAgainstTheMShine]

9-Jun-2010 Mistake in XBW94...

Well what do you expect from Xbox 360 media to much sensationalism done by their Product PR man, Aaron Greenburg has got the better of their mindset and systems!

Like father like sons.

[Jack Klugman]

Wow, even managed to turn an apology to a 3rd party Dev into a bash against MS! Bravo!

Quick admins/mods get this man another bubble stat!!

[Anti-Fanboyer]

Most people here will the think the one apologizing is him, just by looking at the title. Because the title shows everything. /s Fucking headlines.

[Aphe]

It's the same with most articles on here based on quotes. They are cherrypicked to get the fanbois flaming. And the fanbois oblige, never wondering about where those quotes fit into the interview that those quotes are taken out off. They are just used as weapons against the opposite fanbois.

I see it time and time again. Because most fanbois are as thick as shit.

[TheJudgement]

Is articles of quotes taking what people said out of context. Last biggest 1 I can remember is the Obama quote.

[jack_burt0n]

nice to see this back in approval to quench the raging god of Cliffy lmao.

[rezzah]

Sometimes people just need to shut up, because what they think is genius is really retarded.

[wakash]

great piece

[kesvalk]

"the events that transpired here serve as a good example of what can happen in a world where hits become more important than facts, and headlines become more important content."

so true, so true... N4G is example of what happens...