GameZone's Dave Snell writes, "Bioware have made some of the best games of the last decade, so why am I fed up of playing them?"
bioware have some of the most open gameplay mechanics if your bored play another game
Mass Effect 2 wasnt really that open world imo. The only open part that was open was when you go do your teammate lil problem mission to get their trust. I dislike Dragon's Age more after playing Mass Effect 2. Mass Effect 2 had so much quality over Dragon's Age. He does make some valid points though Bioware do copy and paste a lot and just change the title. Funny thing is a lot of 360 owners first rpg is Mass Effect and dont know nothing about Bioware previous games. I really want to see Bioware do a villian type game instead of always saving the world/universe.
As much as I enjoyed Mass Effect 2, I'm still calling it how I see it...it's linear >>....
it is pretty linear but non the less a great game...why does linear mean bad ?
Yeah, I really like Mass Effect 2, but it is extremely linear. You have the choice to pick which linear segment you wanna play first, but that doesn't change the shoestring maps.
I got so tired of Dragon Age's endless dialogue after dialogue. I felt like the majority of the game was simply choosing conversation lines. If that was the case, I'd rather go into a chatroom and talk to real people.
All the contrary most of the best game I've played have been very linear/focused. It doesnt mean I dont enjoy a good open sandbox, but some of the so called open world games are just time wasters, filled with boring crap. I cant stand them for long.
Alot xbox owners have been fans since jade empire and kotor .
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Why only a loser would care. Just that, they're a loser.
and why i dont care?
I would agree that BioWare does tend to use typical formats for each game, but I still do favor their storytelling when compared to their competition in the industry.
There is only so much of Mass Effect 2 that you can take before it's just completely dull &.. not fun, really
I take it you haven't played it?
I have played & completed it, my friend. :)
I'm gonna go out on a limb and agree with you here. ME 1 and 2 were amazing games, and truly a blast to play through, but honestly I can't find myself going on scanning planets, etc.
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I enjoy the games, but definitely agree about the lack of real choice. It's like they shouldn't even bother with conversational responses anymore, and replace them with the choices "Good" "Bad" or "Screw yourself out of any meaningful story."
I hate when someone brings up lack of innovation. here's a real world example. lets say your a cook and you make the world's best spaghetti. well someone sets down and orders a plate and says, "Yawn, lack of innovation". now try connecting this with what he said in the article and you'll know what I mean.
dats not a good example people come with new ways all the time with food. this is video games mostly everything is a been there done that but atleast its fun
I have over 220 hours logged in Mass Effect 2, completed the story numerous times using different custom Shepards. I am not saying Mass Effect 2 is perfect there are always ways developers can improve things. However if the article creator is "bored" of Bioware titles then why not do the sensible thing and don't buy Bioware titles rather than posting on the net ? There are plenty of things I find boring but I don't go around creating articles about them.
I didn't like ME2 and DAO to be honest. The first is only the shadow of itself, a little bit more gears of war in space with chatting. Gone are all the RPG element. And DAO while having awesome chatting and fightings... I dunno, I just miss baldur's gate :( And top view didn't convince me at all. I think bioware is trying a little too hard to please everyone (aka mass marketting)
Interersting take....but i have to disagree with some of it, but overall very interesting
I actually read the entire thing and... It's quite stupid. I'm not touching that site again. And no, I'm not some Bioware fanboy. If you're going to write flamebait articles where you criticize one of the admittedly best and most appreciated devs out there, at least offer legitimate reasons and arguments. Saying that it's your opinion simply doesn't cut it when you are presenting a fundamentally flawed argumentation, and especially not when you're trying to pass it off as gaming journalism.
Well thankfully Bioware doesn't care about folks like you and aren't going to change squat for you.. So sick of this "true choice" crap. So you are asking for a fully sentient engine that will be able to respond to any answer or choice you make.. go back to WoW PC dunce.
bleh their moral choices are cool but the gameplay is stale, especially in dragon age and the witcher. but to each his own
Erm why did you mention "The Witcher" ? that game isn't one of Bioware's. The Witcher was developed by CD Projekt RED STUDIO.
im currently playing it and it says bioware, tho i just probably over looked that bioware published it :P sorry for misunderstanding correction only powered by their engine so im wrong lol
Uncharted was linear & so what?? 90% of games are!!!
They are fantastic Developer's.
Wow.. I understand that we all have opinions and we all like different things(type of games, etc). But damn, I haven't bought one Bioware game this gen and it's not because I chose not to :(. If it wasn't because I'm broke as f**k(we may still have kids around) I would've bought a 360 with BOTH Mass Effect's and Dragon Age Origins for my PS3. I understand and agree that Mass Effect 2 felt less RPG-ish than Mass Effect(1) BUT that does NOT mean that the game was BAD, because it wasn't bad(played SOME of it on a friend's PC). I'm an honest person, I am dying for a Xbox 360. And I also want a PlayStation 3 slim, I'd like my 'old' 80GB one to retire and live happily :) I know that I got off-topic but what I'm trying to say is: Bioware is SO good, that I'd buy a console(no matter what company were making it) just to play ONE(or more of course) or their instant classic gems :). -- I play games, not numbers.. And if I were to play numbers, probably I'd be playing Sudoku. Thank you for reading, brother Ps: sorry for my english :(
I know why... you're a wii fanboy! pointless article with only jrpg loving fanatics agreeing with you.
bioware used to make games like Baldur's Gate 2...now they make cookie cutter mass market games like dragon age and mass effect....granted...these are not bad games.....the are just SAFE games......no risk....no crazy convoluted mechanics....which a true gamer loves.....gaming today is going down the toilet....everything is a sequel....everything is made for the masses...and lets face it...the massess are retarded sheep with cosco cards for souls.....I find it hard to even get into most games today because they are souless empty husks of what the could have been without the focus groups, surveys and board members raping untill what amount of brilliance was there is made into a regurgitated, re-animated frankenstien...... My thoughts...sorry....."Dra gon Age.....the spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate.....FOR STROKE VICTIMS"
I really do
give me a few examples of what you consider real games. just curious.
Interesting responses. To those who disagree, sorry you do, and valid points made by all. This wasn´t an article designed for flamebait (although it seems to have done just that!), merely an opinion article on what I think. If you have yet to play a Bioware title, you will really enjoy the first couple you play. My point wasn´t that I actually think Bioware is bad (which should be pretty clear by the full content of the article), more that I have played enough of their games to spot the similarities between titles, and fear that as a dev company, they are kinda stagnating somewhat with the way each game is presented. Enjoy the titles, they are all good. Just don´t expect me to agree that they are all innovative, different, or groundbreaking. They used to be, now they aren´t. In my opinion. Which is kinda what it is all about.
So you can brag about it, and get a lot of hits on your web page. Gotdamn attention whores ...
I'll take a linear game with a well-crafted storyline any day over a sandbox game with a crap story.
I see where you're coming from in this article - there are plenty of structural similarities between the games. There will always be a party of characters to gather, difficult choices to be made, and a series of quests to be completed before the end of the game. To an extent I agree with you that BioWare need to keep things fresh before they start to stagnate. I personally am not bored with the games at all, and am definitely not fed up with them. But I do see that their next round of games will need something to keep them fresh.
I must say that the way bioware actually tells you "you are saying something good or bad" is the only real thing they should improve upon next time.
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