(By Kotaku's Brian Crecente)As of last night I have officially had nine Xbox 360s die on me, which means when I get this replacement, I will be on my eleventh Xbox 360 (counting debugs and retails).
lol 11 with luck like that i would just settle for a ps3
With luck like that, I don't think a PS3 would last this guy. Perhaps he should review is storage and handling methods. 10 broken xboxes, he has got to be contributing to this. You know what, I'm going to have to drop the Bullsh!t flag here. I don't believe it, even with the 360 break rate. C'mon think about, based on the averages @30 percent break rate he should be on his third xbox by now not his 11. I smell a rat. Perhaps this guy should check the faulty wiring in his house, I wonder how many plasma TV has he gone through.
What is the guy doing? Dunking the things in water?!
I have TWO 360s. Both bought on launch day, and I have never had a problem with either one of them. NOT ONCE.
What is this guy doing with them?
Working on a gaming blog I imagine that he use his 360(s) a lot, can't really compare it with people that own a 360(or more) and not using it as often.
11th 360? I'm glad I'm still on my first. I have trouble beleiving that he isn't contributing to this though. He probably has it on 20 hours a day, with a stack of books and papers sititng on top of it.
My 360 is regularly on for over 10 hours. Still does fine. Weird.
This one has the lowest credibility yet !
ELEVEN 360's - Heee hee, YEAH RIGHT ! AND HE HAS AN ELITE - How long has that model been available ? Are we to believe he had 99 xbox's die on him, M$ fixes them, but apparently he choses to go out & purchase a Elite ? Surely he's not implying he has had 11 Elites ? In what time frame ? When was the first box returned ? You are looking at 3-4 weeks minimum turnaround to send ONE box off, get it repaired, & then sent back ! How long has this been going on ? Since 2005 ? Did he have the first Xbox360 prototype ? What a crock !!!
"NEWS FOR FLAMERS" "NEWS FOR FLAMERS" "NEWS FOR FLAMERS"
"When I pressed the power button on my Xbox 360 Elite it started making sounds like a blender. This lasted about 10 seconds and then it powered off. I found the news a little bizarre" ...
HA HA - ARE YOU KIDDING ME ? ..."I found the news a little bizarre"
is that you'er likely reaction to your ELEVENTH 360 FAILURE ???
Your day will come LOL
its from kotaku what do you expect...
Reading these stories makes me glad that my 360 only gives me minor problems. I like the games out now and of coarse am giddy with the ones that are coming out, but if I had to go thru 9 360's in order to play them I'm not sure I could do that.
360's don't break
THis SIGHT is Flooded With these Stories acording to (((TnS)))
Do Not put this "news" up -- it's not news
Only Post Kotaku stuff when it says something I like
BAD EDITING -- "Don't write my 360 failed"; instead write, "I dropped it....."
THis kind of reminds me of when the [good] Germans stood by and said everything was ok, while Hitler was sacking the rest of Europe:
"Nothing to see here folks, move along.....nothing to see....."
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STOP CENSORING THE FREAKIN' NEWS N4G!!!!! What is this NEWS 4 TALIBAN GAMERS?????????????
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Transperancy in policy making is the best and most honest method of legislating. From now on just come out and say:
"As of July 23, 2007 no more Broken XBox360 stories of ANY KIND will be Allowed by N4G ever again."
This would settle a lot of confusion and let contributors know that anytime they see these stories around the web - they're not newsworthy material to N4G. See how simple that would be? =]
Look at this. Look at all the scared little bubble dropping girls to the right.
Bad Editing: Change article to "PS3 Bites the Dust" APPROVED!!! =]
i think this is news in the same way as all the bs articles about the ps3 were, with the difference that this news is true. i think ppl should now that its not relyable hardware and should avoid it.
All those who voted this article Lame and reported this article, other than for bad editing, should loose their contributor privileges.
N4G's News Posting Guideline clearly states that on Posting Negative News
Posting Negative News
Even though negative news about a console can make the fans angry, it is still news and should be posted as any other story. Again as with all news stories the important thing is that what you report is newsworthy. That some no-name-blogger writes a story about how much he dislikes console X, that is not news. On the other hand, if a high profiled developer shares his negative opinion about a console on his personal blog it would be considered news and should therefore be posted.
So Odion and other Contributors that are to biased to let this site receive news, I'm reporting you to ZeroTolerance.
And the 360 fanboys took my bubbles for quoting N4G's Guidelines. Lol. Dusty, I hope your taking a note of this.
"STOP CENSORING THE FREAKIN' NEWS N4G!!!!! What is this NEWS 4 TALIBAN GAMERS?????????????"
lmfao!!...taliban r bad :(
N4G. Now you're run by the Communist Party. Dissention is Death!! How dare you report a broken 360 story. What do you think this is? News for Gamers? HAHA
This is filtered and watered down NEws for Gamers. Didn't you Get the MEMO? 0_*
If this was happening to the PS3 it would MURDER MURDER MURDER....there is no way you would stop this from hitting everything every site every paper above the fold. What, 360 gets a fvcking pass!!!!???? I'm tired of this sissy pansy scary crap.
Again. IS THERE A FVKIN MORATORIUM ON BROKEN 360 STORIES? Well is there? Did I not get the MEMO?????
ISN'T THAT A VALID FVCKIN QUESTION????? CAN ANYONE NUT UP AND ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!????????????? ?????????? WTF!!!!!!!????????
C'mon I know there are XBots out there who have ballz and class that will talk abut this FVCKING issue I raise.
Bloodmask, THAMMER, razer, KewlKat....anyone>>>? ?? ????????
And give me my galdammed bubbles back and stop trying to send me to the Gestapo you galdammed haters. You try to silence me without REBUTTAL with fvcking Bubbl3s!!!????? My words pierce right through those that click the "shut user up" button. My Wordz are Weaponz I guess. Sorry to speak the truth and bring up valid points. If i lose a fVcking bubble over it, so be it.
Not for being a fan-boy, but for three other reasons.
A: For failing to use a 'spell-check'
B: For pretending that your semi-literate skills were proficient enough to even express a legitimate opinion
C: For issuing a diatribe on something as insignificant, objectively, as a video game console.
The PS3 took a bunch of sh*t and still does because lack of games and price point. When we know that the PS3 is worth the price and that it takes time to get great(not crappy ports) games into the pipeline.
These failures are essentially MS shooting themselves in the foot. It should of never happened in the first place and honestly this issue is a lot more concerning than the easily correctable PS3 "problems".
But I don't think the 360 has gotten a pass. Every gaming site has beaten the issue to death and even mainstream news media has reported on it. But just like the PS3 getting a price cut and games getting into the pipeline, it's going to take MS time to work out these hardware issue. There are a ton of "bad" units in the wild right now and until those get worked out failures are going to continue to happen and like it or not these articles will continue.
Am I sick of them? Hell yeah! Are they going to stop? Nope. Should we just ignore the issue? Definately not.
I just wish it would not turn into a flame war every time it's posted. It's still a great gaming machine and it's not going to run MS out of business..
Yeah that Madden kid is one of the weird ones here.
This just in: Sun Rises in East, sets in West:
Bad EDITING: write, "Sun gradually rises in East and gently sets in the West"
DOn't we already know this?
THis site is flooded with Sun rising and setting stories.
Who cares about the sun?
Other: Reported as Spam - we all know the sun rises and sets, DUH
NOT News for Sun Watchers worthy. At NEws for Sun Wathcers we don't post stories about the rising and setting of the central star.
I'm tired of hearing these galdammed Sun Rising / Sun Setting Stories!!!!!!! Sick of it. If you w3ant to talk about that go to the Moon forums and post that crap there.
This is NEws for Sun watchers...not setters a$$hole
Who doesn't know this?
Yeah, it is Fvcking Lame
Yeah right. Eleven. Might be ALITTLE more believable @ 4 or 5. I've had mine since 4/2006 - no problems, runs all day sometimes - I regularly play GEAR OF WAR for endless hours with my friends, never ever had any problems. Who approved this sh!t ?
Eleven ? I wonder when he got his 1st console, adding in time for shipping back & fourth, what's that ? A new 360 every 21 days ?
More F#cking Fascist Propaganda for N4G. What a joke ! Nice picture from Llamma.com from the "2006 Drive comparison" article !
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reporting this story to Zerotolerence
he has had 11 my advice is to start taking care of his things
Maybe I’m just lucky, but I’ve never had 1 problem with either of my two Xbox 360s, nor have any of my friends who own the system. I wonder if this guy is putting them on a heating pad or something?
Who knows, PS3 might have a heating problem too, but most people who own them don’t have it on very often. There is nothing to play on it!
Lets hear this excuse xbox fans....here we go....Let me guess the guy who posted the article on kotaku works for sony ? Or he just isn't using the xbox 360 machine correctly ? He probably has it out for MS ? Let me hear your answers like every xbox answer.."It will be okay once halo 2.5 comes out"...Peter Moore you're a very smart man !....If and when MS discloses their failure rate...it's game over...Don't be surprised a court makes them disclose those numbers with these class actions....Gosh i just don't understand why they stick up for a horrible built machine...If the PS3 or Wii wasn't a well built machine i'd admit it.
What about PSP and all of the dead pixels? What about PS2 and the disc errors? This stuff happens. Sometimes you can't forsee some of the issues that will come up and you deal with it by offering a better warranty.
youre right this stuff does happen...but a failure rate of over 30% doesnt...thats FAR beyond the standard...which is why there are class action lawsuits being formed against MS...
Woah buddy tone it down a notch. Manufacturing problems can occur with any product and it is in no way indicative of it being crap. The ps 1 had all sorts of problems with the disc drive going out (you had to flip it over to play games) and it was still a great box (this is the part where you ignore what you just read and post more fanboy bs). Please quit being insecure about your choice in game machines by being a fanboy. Tell me your excuse for buying a game machine that has no games out for it? You obviously only own a ps 3 and you are posting on a “gaming forum” yet the ps3 currently has no games, lets hear your excuse for that. I have resistance for ps3 and that’s it, for 360 and pc I have 6 or 7 games. If you owned a 360 and a ps3 you would be to busy actually playing games to be a fanboy. God I am so tired of the ps3 fanboys on this site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
= / everyone singing same tune of "The PS2 and PS1 had problems too" but still all are neglecting the MAJOR fact that these problems weren't in the 30+ percentile range for failure...That's unacceptable by manufacturing standards...But I guess all will continue to dance around that major fact (well I shouldn't say all, because people are moving seriously on these class action lawsuits)...I want to buy a 360, but wont do so until they release that Falcon and it proves to fix the problem
I agree with what youre saying...but you bring up a key point...The fact that when these devices/products see soaring rates of failure...They RECALL them...I think MS should follow suit and do the same. If they recalled the 360 and fixed it, you wouldnt hear so much about its failure...Because recalls happen, but to have the failure rate so high and not recall it, is uncommon
lVlemphizStylez when the ps1 first came out the internet was still young and I only knew a few people that had it. Even if it was a 30% failure rate the word would not have spread like it did with the 360 so it would have been easy to keep it under raps. I knew a lot of people who had to turn their ps1 upside down. What about the original nes and cartridge reading problems? EVERYONE that owned a nes had that problem. The failure rate on the 360 is horrible I agree with that 100%, like I said above I have had 4 replacements (2 different xbox 360s) but in my opinion peter moore is right; stuff like this happens all the time. Dell sells a computer model called the gx270 and it had to recall 100% of the computers mobos. Ford had to recall the explorer for a fault that causes the car to randomly burst into flames while it was off. Cars get recalled all the time and unlike a videogame system you have to entrust your personal safety in a car’s reliability. I am not trying to say that its okay, I am trying to say that it DOES happen and it isn’t very uncommon. The more complicated a device is the more prone it is to failure. Even if the failure rate was higher I would still own the machine simply because I LOVE games. Both systems have good games and tons more good games coming out, why limit you to one system and miss out on some amazing games.
LOL... Ok then you got no games fool!!! You got nothing!!! Then they would say, 'End of this year' hahahahahaha what? Dude raider and lair. Oh yer and GT5P ??? which plays like SHlT. OK Retards. The 360 gets its new chipset this fall, meaning no more Red lights. But still the droids will flame it, when they know their arse is getting kicked hahahahaha no games, no GAMES!!!
Don't you already have one? It's great that they are finally trying to resolve some of the problems by going to 65nm, but what does that do for the 11 million people who already own one? NOTHING. So why argue that point, especially if you don't plan on buying another one?
Open your eyes. Why do people have a hard time complaining about faulty hardware? If I was on my second PS3 you could be damned sure I wouldn't buy a third. This is the exact same reason I don't buy Dell computers anymore.
I know there are a lot of people who don't have broken 360's, but it concerns me when Microsoft won't even release the real defect ratio to the public. That right there is proof enough that something is wrong, especially when they know it is a serious topic to their market.
Bottom Line- I want the games on the 360 (Mass Effect, Bioshock, Halo 3) but I DO NOT want the 360.
Existing 360's will receive the new 65nm board when they are sent in for repair. Eventually all the troublesome boards will be removed from circulation. I for one plan on wrapping my 360 in a towel and purposely inducing the RROD just to get the new board.
And by the way, I don't think anyones saying they don't care about the reliability issues. It's simply a case of people not being prepared to abandon the great lineup of games on the 360 for a problem that we all know will be fixed soon. Just as PS3 fans stand by they're console even though theres not many games at the moment. Like the 360 fans, they know that the problem will resolve in time.
I have had 4 die personally but i am cursed.
How the hell can you disagree with that?!?!?! Do i need to post a link to the dictionary so you can read what disagree means? People are such kids on this site! I can give you my 2 serial numbers and you can call xbox if you would like.
Perhaps they're disagreeing with the comment you made about being cursed?
LOL You bring up a good point pepper!
This guy just spreading fud, I don't believe him when he said..9 of them die on him. Anyhow, I'm glad Peter Moore is out and maybe MS will get their act together and make it right this time. I got 4 360s, only 1 die on me.
CDzie one you sound like Peter Moore..."things break right" or "This stuff happens" ??? HAHAHHAA...seriously check into "Bad Hardware Anonymous"...Admitting to a problem is the first step. Thats what xbox owners need to do
They should just post these articles to the PS3 side of the site. Whenever one is posted it's mostly PS3 users commenting and they seem to get the most from these articles. Is there really any Xbox user left that doesn't know about the hardware problems?
same thing can be said about the drought of games for the PS3. xbots b!tch the most about the drought of games, so this never ending cycle of BS is never gonna end on this site.
Can't argue with that! Both 360 and PS3 sides need to give it a rest.
used to be balanced but now its just a bunch of sony drones. I swear whoever runs this site is a sony fanboy, sitting at his computer, lifting his five chins to eat two day old cold pizza
the 360 is crap everyone knows it..the xbots refuse to listen because they are fanboys and i bet brian played his 360 longer then any of you xbots...well down the road you will see the redlight jus be happy you didnt yet xbotss..eventually it will die out on u..
Notice none of the ps 3 only owners are willing to comment on the widespread problems with the wifi and getting interference with the controller. I cronically have both of these problems (as do many others) yet my 360 that sits right next to the ps3 has no wifi or controller issues.
= / that's because it doesn't have wifi...So how can it have wifi issues??
word, didnt understand what he was referring to
Perhaps he's referring to the wireless adapter for the 360.
I was infact referring to the wireless adapter (wifi adapter) in the ps3 and the add-on adapter for the 360. Do a google search for ps3 wifi dropping and you will see what i am talking about. It has problems staying connected for many users and i am one of those users. My 360 is right next to the ps3 and it will work fine all day long yet the ps3 drops and reconnects every 5 seconds. A problem also exist with the controller being extremely weak to any kind of interference. If i dont turn off all wifi equipment in my house i will randomly loose control and walk into walls. Again a goole search will show that this is a very common problem with the ps3.
what a maroon, his 360 has no wifi issues, ihave the same issue with my ps3, maybe sony will release a patch soon
The only issue I have is with the controller sync, and it pisses me off to no end. Last night I was sneaking up behind a guy during an online team sharpshooter match in RB6V, only to watch myself begin to turn full circle for about five seconds. I was killed, of course. It happens to me about once a night. There is a major difference though between something you can buy for $50 and something you buy for $400. Also, I don't have to send my PS3 controller in to Sony whenever it does this.
I don't use WiFi but I've never had a problem with losing sync on my controllers. Not that I don't believe it's true, but I don't think the problem is as big as the RROD. I'd take losing sync over a dying console anyday. =)
Your problem is even worse though because there is no cure, you just have to put up with it.
Alright, if you disagree, tell me what is the solution to EZCheez's problem? Or are you calling him a liar?
Unless it was EZCheez who disagrees of course, lol.
I do have the same problem, but not as bad as before. I still get the "drunk" controller symptoms like EZCheese once in a while. My question to you VirusE is whether you use a bluetooth headset. I used to have a (piece of sh!t) Motorola H350 headset which, according to us.playstation.com forum (and verified by my experience), can cause your controller to disconnect or even your system to crash. Ever since I changed to Plantronics Explorer 330, I never had any problems since, except for the occasional (but not frequent) "drunk" controller symptom.
I didn't disagree. I just got home from work. Although I do think that it is a repairable problem. Syncing issues have already been addressed in previous firmware updates. I just wish they would fix this. Of course maybe you are right and it can't. I think it is a very minor deficeincy in comparison though.
By the way, thanks to whoever took a bubble. At least I bring in intelligent arguments to the table rather than spewing Playstation from the mouth. Oh well.
that every 360 article has at least 3 comments on the red rings?? If your not going to get a 360, thats fine, but why do you feel the need to comment on everything 360.
So he's 360's only last 30 days at most? He spends the rest of his time returning them?
Sorry, i find that really hard to believe. Specially when my first 360 lasted 11 months. Not saying it's not possible but i am saying that is highly improbable. This guy has had a 360 that can't last more than a month, every month and a half, for a little over a year and a half?
But i heard his recording with an MS rep and yep, he's got 11 "case numbers" on file. Weird but its true. But his case is not indicative of a vast majority. Meaning very few people have hit that high a number, most have fallen at around 2-4. But they, even that's too many!
man that's some bad luck, he's probably doing something wrong if it happens to him that much. i think someone would be unlucky to have their 360 break down on them 1 or 2 times, but 11 times is ridiculous
The sun came up
PS2 still selling well
Wii selling like hotcakes
Another XB360 broke, someone is on their 2nd or 50th replacement XB360
Someone is still on their launch console and is perplexed at others who experience RROD
OK OK... we get the point. How about some news for a change?
i wonder how many people bought a 360 more than once, twice or maybe even 3 times. that is why 360 sold 11 million consoles
hahaha.... i think u rigth!!!
Remember that all broken 360's sent back to MS are refurbed and sent back out. The only replacement units that are included in the sales figures are the ones that people buy at retail, either because their existing unit is out of warranty or because they have tampered with it and MS will not touch it, leaving little choice but to buy a new console.
That is pretty amazing. I wonder if he has the world record. I have had one 360 and it has never given me any problems. I mean, I make sure to have it in an area with plenty of airflow, and I always leave the ceiling fan on in that room. I don't know what this guy does with his, but I know I play mine quite a bit... I even use mine as a DVD player sometimes which I know is idiotic.
I have bought three Xbox 360's. I bought one on launch day which worked fine until this past April. Out of nowhere with no indications that things were heading south, the DVD drive crapped out. I bought another one last August for my wife. It got the three red rings of death, also this past April. I bought my third 360 after the first one crapped out, and I had to pick that up in Dubai since I am in the Navy and was underway when it happened.
All of that being said, I have two PS3's and a Wii. My Wii broke and has been fixed and returned. My initial PS3 has so many "silly" little bugs, like I can no longer load my Resistance game from my profile... just from my profile, that it drives me up the wall.
If my current 360 broke, I would STILL go buy another one. Why? Because I have all of these great games, and I want to play them. If my PS3 broke, I really wouldn't notice. Any multiplatform games I buy for the 360 for the Achievments. That leaves me with Resistance and Motorstorm on the PS3. The Wii gets some time about once a week and when I have guests. But my 360 IS my gaming machine. So on one hand, I have a console of questionable quality(360), on the other, I have one that is currently a dust collector(PS3).
None of these consoles deserve your undying loyalty. They all have their issues. I think we should all play our games a little more, get out enjoy the summer, and stop trying to bash one console or another just so you can feel better about your purchase. My two cents.
You're right, no console (at the moment) deserves loyalty.
But there's no way in hell I would keep buying multiple consoles from the same manufacturer if they all started breaking either, that would be stupid. Like buying the same car multiple times but the engine won't start. Having a Ferrai that doesn't move would be pointless. A console could have all it's games looking like bloody Crysis, but it'd be useless if i couldn't play it regularly
Just my 2 cents
Lucky for me, I am still on my first. probably because I played it the most between December when I got it to March, a month after Crackdown came. I guess I am saving it for the AAA games Halo 3 and Mass Effect. I am going to get the core version of 'Falcon' 360 after a price drop for backup. Anyways if 360 was a diseased Dog you played with .....
Unfortunately, you can't cry foul and say that Kotaku are being fanboys or are doing something wrong with the 360's because:
IGN.com have complained that a number of their systems have conked out.
Computerandvideogames.com have had their failed xboxes hit the double figures as well.
Go to their sites if you don't believe me. You can't call this propaganda now.
Hearing the whole "My Xbox broke" is getting boring but if that was any other piece of hardware it'd be the same thing. Remember, all this fuss forced MS's hand to increase the warranty in the first place. If no-one complained, nothing would have been done.
We can only hope they sort out the next batch of 360's they produce or be forever tarnished with a shoddy workmanship reputation.
So we can't cry foul, but U know something these stories keep coming a little to often, I would like some proof I mean I could say I had 15 360's break give us some PROOF!!!!!
i don't care for the warranty ... if my systems breaks down in the middle of a game with some friends - who gives a fvck about 3 years warranty?
i had 3 .. but 9? never!